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Insurance Talk V4!, Anything and everything about Insurance
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ckdenion
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May 5 2017, 07:06 PM
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QUOTE(5p3ak @ May 4 2017, 10:37 PM) What makes me  is that AXA/Affin Insurance have the audacity to charge one of my card for 2 months when I haven't even received the policy. Will call them tomorrow. Never again will I register via phone, oh well lesson learnt. Don't get me wrong tho, Affin bank is quite a good bank, have a few FDs there, good rate if you manage to nego. yeah u r right, buying through phone end up not so sure of what you have bought until u receive the policy and read through it. in this case u have to go to their CS office together with the free-look period letter.
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SUSMNet
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May 6 2017, 10:08 AM
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QUOTE(arilrifter @ May 3 2017, 12:00 AM) a non agent here.. hmm im a muslim.. yes, you are advised to go for takaful as it is in comply with the muslim guidelines.. however im using a conventional insurance (no plans to change).. and my wife using takafull.. to be honest.. aside from the investment returns (cuz ive been using insurans only for 5-6 years).. when i looked into coverage when comparing my wife prubsn takaful and others such as aia, allianz and prudential.. the conventional offer slightly or somewhat better coverage.. i can be wrong.. dont bash me for example, my wife's new prubsn RM270 coverage is 400k per year with added 400k if get cancer, kidney failure or heart attack.. death 25k, no c.i.. compared to other conventional insurance, with rm270 premium, they'd roughly get around 1 mill annual limit with no lifetime limit more or less), with some even add 100k c.i and death.. so it differes a lot in terms of value reliablity and ease of claim however is a whole another devil.. my wife just started and never claimed before.. me, i used prudential old policy, claim has always been a breeze.. for other insurance however i really do suggest u to stalk their official malaysian FB pages and read the customer's comments. then u will get a good idea .. However do take those comments with a grain of salt.. cuz many times its the fault of the customers who did not understand their policy in d first place u need to cancel ur conventional policy and change to takaful as takaful is halal u can bring to akhirat.
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TSroystevenung
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May 6 2017, 10:22 AM
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QUOTE(MNet @ May 6 2017, 10:08 AM) u need to cancel ur conventional policy and change to takaful as takaful is halal u can bring to akhirat.  I sincerely hope the above statement is just for trolling! Your EPF contributions and conventional banking was also non Syariah compliant for years!
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lifebalance
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May 6 2017, 10:30 AM
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QUOTE(MNet @ May 6 2017, 10:08 AM) u need to cancel ur conventional policy and change to takaful as takaful is halal u can bring to akhirat. Well it's good to bring awareness to the general public because they might be ignorant about such information. But whether they want to make to decision to make changes is still up to them
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SUSMNet
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May 6 2017, 03:49 PM
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QUOTE(roystevenung @ May 6 2017, 10:22 AM)  I sincerely hope the above statement is just for trolling! Your EPF contributions and conventional banking was also non Syariah compliant for years!  Now u already know u r wrong. u shouldn't continue wrong until end of ur life. My advise to him is to quick change to takaful.
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arilrifter
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May 6 2017, 10:34 PM
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umm thank you Roy and MNet for the advice.. i will take all of your advice into careful consideration.. but please lets keep the tone friendly  I dont really wanna be the cause of strife between you guys.. I love to read the low yat forum and gain knowledge because of how professional u guys are and how broad minded you guys are in your discussion This post has been edited by arilrifter: May 6 2017, 10:39 PM
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wild_card_my
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May 7 2017, 09:07 AM
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QUOTE(arilrifter @ May 6 2017, 10:34 PM) umm thank you Roy and MNet for the advice.. i will take all of your advice into careful consideration.. but please lets keep the tone friendly  I dont really wanna be the cause of strife between you guys.. I love to read the low yat forum and gain knowledge because of how professional u guys are and how broad minded you guys are in your discussion insurance agents and members of the public going at each other isn't unheard off. They work for their comms calculated based on the premium paid by the customers, so there is some ulterior motives to upsell and/or keep the premiums high. On the other hand, the public have a healthy level of mistrusts for insurances agents too, and it is just given all the flip flopping stories you read about in the news paper about unpaid claims... best is to go through all posts and learn as a whole, and then decide for yourself from whom to get the policies from.
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arilrifter
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May 7 2017, 09:57 AM
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yup wild card... I learnt a lot from roy, aia, u, mnet and others... thanx a lot  .. : This post has been edited by arilrifter: May 7 2017, 10:01 AM
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lifebalance
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May 7 2017, 11:45 AM
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QUOTE(arilrifter @ May 7 2017, 09:57 AM) yup wild card... I learnt a lot from roy, aia, u, mnet and others... thanx a lot  .. : No problem, feel free to ask your questions here if you're in doubt.
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Rayshah
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May 10 2017, 10:45 AM
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Need to ask about prudential health enrich + vital. I bought it for my daughter and i never use it as I always use my company insurance. Last week i got a referal letter from gp to check my daughter to ENT speacialist. So i call my agent to ask for the procedure and she said that my policy not cover outpatient. If i just go to speacialist for checkup and not warded it will not cover. Can anybody confirm on this? Before buying that policy i already ask her if this policy cover outpatient and she say yes..
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lifebalance
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May 10 2017, 10:49 AM
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QUOTE(Rayshah @ May 10 2017, 10:45 AM) Need to ask about prudential health enrich + vital. I bought it for my daughter and i never use it as I always use my company insurance. Last week i got a referal letter from gp to check my daughter to ENT speacialist. So i call my agent to ask for the procedure and she said that my policy not cover outpatient. If i just go to speacialist for checkup and not warded it will not cover. Can anybody confirm on this? Before buying that policy i already ask her if this policy cover outpatient and she say yes.. If this policy is a medical card, normally it only covers hospitalization and not outpatient clinical claim unless your daughter is admitted to the hospital for inpatient treatment In your situation you described, it seems your daughter went to check up with the ENT and there was no findings or required to be hospitalised therefore you will need to bear the check up cost on your own.
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Rayshah
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May 10 2017, 11:05 AM
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QUOTE(lifebalance @ May 10 2017, 10:49 AM) If this policy is a medical card, normally it only covers hospitalization and not outpatient clinical claim unless your daughter is admitted to the hospital for inpatient treatment In your situation you described, it seems your daughter went to check up with the ENT and there was no findings or required to be hospitalised therefore you will need to bear the check up cost on your own. Thanks, are there any insurance that cover outpatient clinical claim too?
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lifebalance
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May 10 2017, 11:09 AM
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QUOTE(Rayshah @ May 10 2017, 11:05 AM) Thanks, are there any insurance that cover outpatient clinical claim too? Not in the market so far under personal insurance. Outpatient clinical coverage is normally covered only under group insurance.
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lousai
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May 11 2017, 12:26 PM
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Hi sifu, lately my group of friends are revising their insurance policy. Some even cancel the existing one and sign up for latest plan. According to them, the latest plan provide more coverage and sum assure as well vs the 10 yrs old policy. Thus, I wannted to seek your guidance and advice on this move. Appreciate your insight thought
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lifebalance
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May 11 2017, 12:33 PM
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QUOTE(lousai @ May 11 2017, 12:26 PM) Hi sifu, lately my group of friends are revising their insurance policy. Some even cancel the existing one and sign up for latest plan. According to them, the latest plan provide more coverage and sum assure as well vs the 10 yrs old policy. Thus, I wannted to seek your guidance and advice on this move. Appreciate your insight thought Instead of just blindly cancelling policies, get a proper agent to review your existing coverage and understand your current financial needs
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Holocene
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May 11 2017, 01:55 PM
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QUOTE(lousai @ May 11 2017, 12:26 PM) Hi sifu, lately my group of friends are revising their insurance policy. Some even cancel the existing one and sign up for latest plan. According to them, the latest plan provide more coverage and sum assure as well vs the 10 yrs old policy. Thus, I wannted to seek your guidance and advice on this move. Appreciate your insight thought You should set an appointment with a life agent and go through your options but it is undeniable the plans nowadays provide higher limit in coverage. Best, Jiansheng
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ssh2222
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May 11 2017, 02:52 PM
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QUOTE(lousai @ May 11 2017, 12:26 PM) Hi sifu, lately my group of friends are revising their insurance policy. Some even cancel the existing one and sign up for latest plan. According to them, the latest plan provide more coverage and sum assure as well vs the 10 yrs old policy. Thus, I wannted to seek your guidance and advice on this move. Appreciate your insight thought The latest policies offer higher (and sometimes unlimited) coverage etc, but it's very important to actually review what you (or your friend) already has, and see what you're replacing it with. Talk to your life planner/agent and do a proper review. If after you've done a proper review and feel it's good to switch, then go ahead. It's also important to take note of waiting/cooling periods, especially when discussing medical cards. Even if you're on Plan A, and now want to buy Plan B, take note that Plan B usually will have a certain waiting period for different illnesses, so don't just cancel the old plan before waiting out that time, or else you could be left hanging. Hope this helps. Cheers.
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ckdenion
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May 11 2017, 05:08 PM
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QUOTE(lousai @ May 11 2017, 12:26 PM) Hi sifu, lately my group of friends are revising their insurance policy. Some even cancel the existing one and sign up for latest plan. According to them, the latest plan provide more coverage and sum assure as well vs the 10 yrs old policy. Thus, I wanted to seek your guidance and advice on this move. Appreciate your insight thought no problem as long as your agent do proper review and able to guide you what to do if you wanna get a new plan. of course best case is always dont cancel the existing one unless it doesnt serve any important purpose. your agent will know this well and will guide you through. we cannot make any decision for your just based on what your friend did and without knowing what you have.
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rachy
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May 22 2017, 04:28 PM
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Hi there,
Appreciate if some good Prudential agent can PM me. I would like to change my current sales agent and do a full review and amend my current policy. Must be KL based/no problems to come to KL to meet at my office. My current agent is absolutely awful and I intend to change ASAP.
Thanks.
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lifebalance
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May 22 2017, 04:37 PM
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QUOTE(rachy @ May 22 2017, 04:28 PM) Hi there, Appreciate if some good Prudential agent can PM me. I would like to change my current sales agent and do a full review and amend my current policy. Must be KL based/no problems to come to KL to meet at my office. My current agent is absolutely awful and I intend to change ASAP. Thanks. Perhaps you can call up to the HQ to ask for this. I'm sure they are more willing to help
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