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post Feb 21 2017, 11:57 AM

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QUOTE(chrisderick88 @ Feb 20 2017, 11:09 PM)
checking in!
I'm a cheapo here trying to build my own medical card by taking "just" medical card without investment link.
Found a "problem":- there's no standalone critical illness cover. So basically if one day i'm worried about critical illness, I'll need to find an investment link.

Also I have the chance to look at ILP vs non-ILP products premium. the exact same cover cost more for non-ILP. WTF!
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Yes, if you want critical illness coverage, your options will generally be a traditional plan, or an investment linked plan.

Regarding your comment about the premium, it's hard to comment without looking at the specific details of the plans to compare.

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post Feb 21 2017, 04:43 PM

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QUOTE(KaD1GO @ Feb 21 2017, 04:30 PM)
can anyone suggest me, in neutral POV:

1) Which is better, insurance or takaful? I did my homework, I'm more towards takaful, however i would like to get others POV as well.
2) I'm looking for Life+Medical+Health+Critical Illness (like an all-in-one plan), with budget 300/month, is there anything like this?

My info:
1) 28 y.o. (will be 29 on Sept)
2) Non smoker
3) Male
4) Income: approx 60k annually
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Hi, KaD1GO,

Yes, it's definitely possible get a plan like you've described for RM300/month. May I also know your occupation type? e.g. Accountant, Doctor, etc.

Cheers,
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post Mar 6 2017, 05:39 PM

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QUOTE(FDInvestor @ Mar 6 2017, 05:29 PM)
AIG insurance is a reliable brand in Malaysia ? They are offering injury guard policy where the policyholder can choose to include the coverage for their parents in the plan. The plans are for those who aged between 18 and 75 years old and cover can be extended to the age of 85. Here is the price plan : https://www.aig.my/campaigns/injuryguard/price-plan

However, there is some contradiction of the information between AIG official website and Ringgit Plus (https://ringgitplus.com/en/personal-accident-insurance/AIG-Injury-Guard.html)

In Ringgit Plus, the author highlighted that accidental death is not covered which is totally different as disclosed in the product brochure. (https://www.aig.my/content/dam/aig/apac/malaysia/documents/microsites/brochure-ig-oct16-eng.pdf)

What is your opinion on this type of insurance product ? Will you go for it ?
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When you notice contradictions, it's best to clarify. As always, it's the insurance company that will have the final say, so best to check with them for actual clarification. I'd trust the official website of the company more, though.

Hope this helps.

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post Mar 8 2017, 01:00 PM

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QUOTE(phoenix24 @ Mar 8 2017, 12:35 PM)
Hi sifu sekalian,
I have a life insurance from GE since I was 1 years old with annual premium of RM 1.1k and sum assured only rm100k. I am currently 24 years old. Is this plan still good for me? Any recommendations of better plan out there?
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Hi phoenix24,

It really depends on your lifestyle and what's going on etc. The usual things that you'll need to take into consideration are whether you have any liabilities that need to be dealt with, or any dependents etc.

It's good that you're asking now, and it's always good to review (not just insurance) our situation from time to time.

Cheers,
Matt
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post Mar 21 2017, 03:51 PM

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QUOTE(shahizz @ Mar 21 2017, 02:13 PM)


Yesterday, my old old friend which is an insurance agent with ABC company came to me and ask me to bring my policy book. So keep the story short he wants to offer me a new insurance policy which is better than what im getting right now. Plus the amount i'll be paying lesser. He ask me to surrender the policy that im having right now which to me is not a good idea.

Any advice sifus/gurus?
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It's generally not a good idea to just surrender your old policy like that. I'd be wary when people suddenly tell you to cancel your policy. Even if you do decide to cancel your old policy it's important to take note of things such as waiting period for medical coverage etc.

Bottom line, analyse carefully before making a decision, don't just cancel to help your friend make a sale.

Cheers.
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post Mar 31 2017, 12:38 PM

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QUOTE(KannaSai1 @ Mar 31 2017, 12:18 AM)
i had a very  old school great eastern life policy. i think got 20 years d.

i had premium holidays for years and now got cash value about 9k.
should i surrander it and take a new plan ?

may i know how much for travel insurance for 1 year ? covered domestic and oversea ?
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Hi,

Best to do a property policy review before making a decision. I wouldn't recommend you just surrender like that unless the proper due diligence has been done.

hope this helps.

Cheers.
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post May 5 2017, 11:32 AM

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QUOTE(orenji_neko @ May 3 2017, 01:11 PM)
I have life insurance (ILP) + CI rider under etiqa for over 3 years already and the only annual statement I received was total premium I had paid for the whole year. There is no details on how much premium is for life, how much premium is for CI rider(to claim tax under medical 3k) or dividend(if any).
Is this the normal practice?
I don't even know if it was a good investment.
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Hi orenji_neko

You should receive a statement that will state clearly how much goes to Medical, Life, or Medical/Life. If you didn't receive it, you can have your agent send you a copy, or request directly from your insurance company.

QUOTE(5p3ak @ May 4 2017, 10:09 PM)
Evening to all,

How to write a good cancellation letter? Want to cancel one of the life insurance, 2 months only arrive the policy, dissapointed.

Thank You.
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Hi 5p3ak

It really shouldn't take 2 whole months to reach you. Maybe one possibility is that it took a while for the agent to arrange a meeting with you to deliver the policy.

Anyways, as you've mentioned, just write a cancellation letter and you can walk into the insurance to request for a refund if you're still within the timeline of 2 weeks from signing the policy acknowledgement slip.

Cheers,
Matt

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post May 11 2017, 02:52 PM

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QUOTE(lousai @ May 11 2017, 12:26 PM)
Hi sifu, lately my group of friends are revising their insurance policy. Some even cancel the existing one and sign up for latest plan. According to them, the latest plan provide more coverage and sum assure as well vs the 10 yrs old policy. Thus, I wannted to seek your guidance and advice on this move. Appreciate your insight thought
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The latest policies offer higher (and sometimes unlimited) coverage etc, but it's very important to actually review what you (or your friend) already has, and see what you're replacing it with. Talk to your life planner/agent and do a proper review. If after you've done a proper review and feel it's good to switch, then go ahead.

It's also important to take note of waiting/cooling periods, especially when discussing medical cards. Even if you're on Plan A, and now want to buy Plan B, take note that Plan B usually will have a certain waiting period for different illnesses, so don't just cancel the old plan before waiting out that time, or else you could be left hanging.

Hope this helps.

Cheers.
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post May 24 2017, 08:19 PM

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QUOTE(raptar_eric @ May 24 2017, 01:13 PM)
Fellow insurance sifus, may I kindly ask is there a need to have 2 separate medical policies from diff companies?

I have a medical card from ge covering 2.4mil lifetime claim, and another prud medical card covering 2.5mil lifetime claim..

I am only 29 this year, healthy no sickness... thought of dropping 1 due to commitments... what all sifus think?
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Hi,

As some guys here have already mentioned, you can only claim one at a time, so the scenario in which you use both would be that your medical bill exceeds the limit of card #1,and therefore you use medical card #2.

One thing I always feel is important to bring up when people talk about dropping their medical card, is that you need to pay attention to the waiting period of your new medical card. Usually there is a waiting period of 3 months for certain illnesses, and 6 months for certain illness etc. So there is common to hold your older card while you wait out the cooling period on your new card, just in case. You don't want to cancel the old one and later find out that you're not covered for X illness in the new card due to cooling period.

I also agree with some of the suggestions here that you should consider the newer medical cards with 1-2 million a year coverage, and lifetime unlimited. As you're only 29 this year, you can assume the medical costs will be much much higher by the time you're 40-50 years old. The cost of entry for your current age is also very reasonable.

As always, do a proper review with an honest agent who has looked through the details of your policy before canceling your old policy, as I only have the information you've provided above.

Hope this helps.

Cheers.
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post Jun 15 2017, 04:42 PM

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QUOTE(michaelwell @ Jun 13 2017, 02:47 PM)
Hi all insurance agents/ underwriter, if diagnosed with benign brain tumor, would it still possible to purchase medical insurance? If not, what insurance can be bought with this medical history? Life? PA? Thanks. Please PM if there's any plan that is suitable for this case.
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As mentioned by some of the members here already, it'll depend on whether the tumor was removed. If it was not removed, then the person wouldn't be able to buy a life/medical policy.

If the tumor was removed, then will need to get through the waiting period, and even then, there might be loading or exclusions.

Hope this helps.

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post Jun 16 2017, 08:51 AM

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QUOTE(spiderwick @ Jun 15 2017, 05:44 PM)
Hey guys, I need some advices here..

I have been paying a life insurance since 2009 at 3.5k for a coverage of 100k for death, total permanent disability and 36 types of illnesses.

now the coverage has increased to 120k.

I'm 35 this year. I'm thinking whether it's worthwhile to continue to pay this anymore as I have another separate medical card. in the medical card, there is a separate amount for life etc too. I'm in the midst of checking with my agent.

My friend who bought another medical card insurance later than me, have a coverage of the above as well but way cheaper and with medical benefits.

Thank you for your advice.
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It's not uncommon to have newer plans offering better value/coverage, but really to do a proper comparison you'd need to sit down with an agent and do a proper review. Certain things you might want to take into account:
- Your plans might be different. His plan might focus on something different. As you mentioned life cover and his is medical. It's hard to compare just based on this.
- Your age might be different

In the end, my view is to do a proper review, and see if what you have is currently still the best solution in the market, based on your situation etc.

Hope this helps.

Cheers,
Matt


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post Jun 18 2017, 11:30 AM

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QUOTE(hoong2188 @ Jun 18 2017, 12:15 AM)
Make - Age 60 ... got socso ..
Do it still need to buy PErsonal accident insurance ?
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Personal Accident insurance is quite different from life/medical. After all, we're all guaranteed to leave this world someday, and it's a safe guess that we'll need some medical help somewhere in our lives. Whether we get into an accident or not is another issue, so it's a bit of a gamble/luck of sorts. PA isn't too expensive though, so it can be worth considering, depending on your situation.

Hope this helps.

Cheers,
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post Jun 30 2017, 08:30 AM

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QUOTE(subaiku @ Jun 29 2017, 04:38 PM)
Ok sifus, need your opinion on my current plan from Prudential. Does the premium seem a bit high for this plan? It's an investment linked plan and I've had it since 1999.

Monthly premium RM224
PRUlink assurance account RM 120,000
Crisis Cover Benefit RM 120,000
Personal Accident Benefit RM 40,000
PRUdisability provider Benefit RM 8,000 per annum
PRUmajor med 2 Benefit RM 200 (Room & Board)
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I think it's best to do a proper review with your life planner and analyse from there. It's best to take all the factors into account, such as your age, current situation, existing health situation etc. Getting a comparison between this and "product XYZ" might not give you a suitable answer.

QUOTE(watabakiu @ Jun 29 2017, 10:52 PM)
To confirm- the perks in having CI coverage is that once the policyholder is hit with 1 of the CIs covered, the policyholder is paid in full (of the sum assured), whilst not impacting on the policyholder's annual limit/lifetime limit.

Is my understanding correct?
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Yes, the CI coverage will be paid on the diagnosis of the CI. The annual limit/lifetime limit of the medical card won't be affected. The sum assured (life/TPD) however may or may not be reduced, depending on the details of your policy. If unclear, always refer to the details in your policy, as that's the contract that you've purchased.


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post Jul 5 2017, 10:42 AM

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QUOTE(Lego Warfare @ Jul 4 2017, 04:52 PM)
Anyone familiar with Great Eastern Investment Link - Smart Protect Essential 2 which includes:
1) Smart Medic Xtra SMX150 which gives a 90k Annual Limit, No lifetime limit

plus

2) Smart Extender which gives RM900k Annual Limit, No lifetime limit.

According to the agent, the Smart Extender has a 90k deductible which actually uses from the Smart Medic Xtra annual limit. Meaning you actually get RM990k Annual Limit with No Life Time Limit.

Room rate is only RM150, but the premium per month is only around RM270 which is really cheap for a RM990k annual limit with no life time limit.
Includes premium waiver and early CI payout.

My current policy with AIA is catered more to investment side but only gives RM120k annual limit with no life time limit, no premium waiver and no early CI. Premium per month is also around RM270.
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As you've been informed, there is a 90k deductible on the Smart Extender , which is handled by the SMX 90k annual limit.

What you've been quoted effectively has 990k annual limit, with lifetime no limit.

The basic summary of the SMX and SE can be seen below.

Hope this helps.

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post Jul 7 2017, 02:49 PM

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QUOTE(lifebalance @ Jul 7 2017, 02:37 PM)
Before you call me unprofessional, are you saying the company that you represent is unprofessional by misleading the public based on the screencap below, is that what you mean ??

https://www.greateasternlife.com/content/da...ic-enhancer.pdf

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Don't simply accuse or pull down another agent if you intend to use strong word like "unprofessional".
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Bro, I don't think anybody is trying to get into a fight here, but that lifetime limit has already been removed, can you can see from the excerpt below, sourced from the GE website:
https://www.greateasternlife.com/my/en/pers...-questions.html

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You can also refer to those with the latest policies from GE to read through the policy book and clarify the no lifetime limit, which I've posted earlier as well.



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post Jul 7 2017, 06:25 PM

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QUOTE(roystevenung @ Jul 7 2017, 05:29 PM)
The Rule of thumb is to only comment products that you carry which you are selling as we do not know the latest offerings by other companies.

Just a misunderstanding, so chill
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I totally agree. We're all here to help and add value. rclxms.gif thumbup.gif
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post Jul 12 2017, 09:04 AM

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QUOTE(eric84cool @ Jul 11 2017, 10:10 PM)
Hi guys, just asking for the opinion in selecting product type by having about the same premium amount yearly.

(1) Having medical insurance (standalone) + life insurance from diff insurance companies.
(2) Having medical insurance (rider) which including ILP.

What's the pro & con for these options?
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It's important to note that a standalone medical card charges according to a table (price list of sorts), so you can see the future cost of using that medical card by referring to the price table. Generally speaking, the cost will be higher every X years, as your age has increased, so when you're older (e.g. 60-70 years old), the yearly renewal cost can be over 10k.

An property planned ILP with medical insurance will generally cost the same premium that you've been paying, and can handle the costs of continuing to insure you when you're older.

This is just a general description of the difference. As always, best to discuss the full details with your life planner.

Hope this helps.

Cheers.
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post Jul 25 2017, 02:32 PM

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QUOTE(heavensea @ Jul 24 2017, 08:03 PM)
Hi, anyone from ING company?

My mum told me that she just renewed her medical card policy, but she didn't receive the "actual card" like she used to. What's going on? Is it "normal" or okay? So how she gonna show to hospital for prove that she is covered under ING medical insurance? (touch wood)

please advise on this situation, thanks guys.
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In cases like this, it's best to contact the agent and clarify what is going on. If she is having trouble contacting the agent, she can liaise directly with AIA (which now owns ING) for further clarification.

Hope this helps.

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post Aug 15 2017, 04:02 PM

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QUOTE(it.fusion @ Aug 14 2017, 10:18 PM)
I am paying for past 6 years with both me and my wife under GE approx rm5k for ILP with waiver benefits..

total sum assured is rm80K but medical card is value is not much believe its 100k lifetime limit..

Any better plans for me to upgrade or switch to another provider ?

thanks
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The current plants have removed the lifetime limit, so you can say that there are better plans, but really we don't have the full details of your policy etc. It's best to sit down with your agent and do a proper policy review, see where your current protection is, and discuss what's best for your situation.

Hope this helps.

Cheers.
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post Sep 5 2017, 10:28 PM

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QUOTE(marky @ Sep 5 2017, 08:30 PM)
Whats the diff between great medic xtra and smart medic xtra? Just rebranding?

Thanks!
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A very brief answer would be that Great Medic Xtra is a standalone medical card, where there is no cash value and death benefit. The SmartMedic Xtra is a medical rider for the investment linked plan. There are pros and cons for going for standalone or investment linked.

Hope this helps.

Cheers.

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