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Cubalagi
post May 2 2023, 07:49 AM

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QUOTE(kazekage_09 @ May 1 2023, 12:16 PM)
Hi all, want to ask something. If I switching my funds which are not performing (meaning to date giving me negative returns), does that means technically I am realizing my loss?

I started invest in UT about 2 years ago about Feb 2021 I think. Market during that times not doing well but I still started invest anyway. To date my portfolio giving me -9% return. And all my funds are shariah so as we know they not performing well compared to conventional.

So after 2 years I thinking to modify my portfolio. Do I wait until my funds break even and then only switch? Or just accept the loss and switch now?

During that times I know nothing about UT (so as now haha) and just tried to invest to gain experience. Currently I am doing DCA RM1k per month into 7 funds.

Would like to hear other opinion on this.

Thank you.
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Share here what are these 7 funds.

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post May 2 2023, 12:05 PM

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QUOTE(PueRTeaA @ May 2 2023, 07:41 AM)
That why when you buy too many fund. Sure got some fund will red, and some fund will green. Its very difficult for all 7 fund red/green together.  Add up all together the return will become like balance fund profile return doh.gif .

But still depend on your risk appetite, if can take risk then just buy those growth profile biggrin.gif
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At least balance portfolio it is to diversify and spread the risk and it is highly unlikely that all 7 will be in one way 🤦‍♀️ not like you said earlier cannot switch 🤦‍♀️ as I think you should read up more on asset allocation and managed portfolio
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post May 5 2023, 02:03 PM

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QUOTE(MUM @ May 1 2023, 12:45 PM)

Just my take and my thinking,
Yes you are realising your loss BUT it is only on that fund.
If you exit all and not investing, then it is realising your loss in investing.
Realising your Loss on a particular fund and move to a more suitable fund is not realising loss in investing.
Realising or not realising a loss of a fund is the the same as the total balance in an investment portfolio is still the same
Not realising loss of a particular fund, just gives added hope of chances of recovery...some also do it due to emotional attachment to it.
Realising a loss of a particular fund and move the proceed to another fund is ok if it realised that that lost making fund does not actually suits your long term investment goal, your actual risk appetite or does not need it in your UT portfolio.
May also consider lowering the % allocated instead of exit ALL too

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QUOTE(xander2k8 @ May 1 2023, 05:30 PM)
The loss is small by comparison and I would wait for the next bull market to do switch rather than doing it now because even if you switch funds you will be buying close to high

The other option is stop allocating and pick new funds instead with a longer and proven track record at least 15 years history
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QUOTE(Cubalagi @ May 2 2023, 07:49 AM)
Share here what are these 7 funds.
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Thank you for the responses. Few things and strategies i got from all the replies:

Yes its true if I really think about it, switch or not switch, my total investment is still the same. So why not do the switching.

Lowering the allocation and stop the allocation instead of switching are strategies I will look into.


And my bad it actually 8 funds haha. Like I said I just went into UT without proper planning just want to get the experiences. So I think my portfolio is pretty unbalance.

Here is my current portfolio:
Principal islamic asiapac dynamic 10%
AHAM aiiman asia (ex japan) growth 20%
Eastspring dinasti 20%
Aberdeen world 10%
Interpac dana safi 10%
Principal islamic small cap 10%
Maybank sukuk 10%
Amanahraya shariah trust 10%

And here my planning for my new portfolio:

Aberdeen world
Dana makmur pheim
Principal islamic aisiapac
Amanahraya syariah trust

All funds with good track record of more than 10 years.
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post May 5 2023, 02:56 PM

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QUOTE(kazekage_09 @ May 5 2023, 02:03 PM)

And here my planning for my new portfolio:

Aberdeen world
Dana makmur pheim
Principal islamic aisiapac
Amanahraya syariah trust

All funds with good track record of more than 10 years.
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Quite decent choices diversified in different asset classes.
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post May 9 2023, 11:55 AM

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Hi any sifu here
need some advise
i still holding this 2 fund
1.Affin Hwang World Series - Global Disruptive Innovation Fund - MYR Hedged
2.Affin Hwang World Series - Next Generation Technology Fund - MYR Hedged
3.AmChina A-Shares - MYR Hedged

should i change fund or keep?
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post May 9 2023, 12:44 PM

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QUOTE(skype911 @ May 9 2023, 11:55 AM)
Hi any sifu here
need some advise
i still holding this 2 fund
1.Affin Hwang World Series - Global Disruptive Innovation Fund - MYR Hedged
2.Affin Hwang World Series - Next Generation Technology Fund - MYR Hedged
3.AmChina A-Shares - MYR Hedged

should i change fund or keep?
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Mind telling how many % are allocated to each of these 3 funds in relation to you investable money?
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post May 9 2023, 12:52 PM

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QUOTE(skype911 @ May 9 2023, 11:55 AM)
Hi any sifu here
need some advise
i still holding this 2 fund
1.Affin Hwang World Series - Global Disruptive Innovation Fund - MYR Hedged
2.Affin Hwang World Series - Next Generation Technology Fund - MYR Hedged
3.AmChina A-Shares - MYR Hedged

should i change fund or keep?
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Are you asking because you bagging losses on those funds? 🤦‍♀️
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post May 9 2023, 02:50 PM

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[quote=xander2k8,May 9 2023, 12:52 PM]
Are you asking because you bagging losses on those funds? 🤦‍♀️
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40% lost now
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post May 9 2023, 02:51 PM

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QUOTE(MUM @ May 9 2023, 12:44 PM)
Mind telling how many % are allocated to each of these 3 funds in relation to you investable money?
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its only 10% of the investment
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post May 9 2023, 03:09 PM

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QUOTE(skype911 @ May 9 2023, 02:51 PM)
its only 10% of the investment
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10% each or 10% total (3.3% each)?

BTW,
Affin Hwang World Series - Global Disruptive Innovation Fund - MYR Hedged and
Affin Hwang World Series - Next Generation Technology Fund - MYR Hedged

I think they are of almost similar mandates.
If want, can try reduce both of them by half each or remove anyone of this 2.

This post has been edited by MUM: May 9 2023, 03:09 PM
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post May 9 2023, 05:38 PM

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QUOTE(skype911 @ May 9 2023, 02:50 PM)
QUOTE(xander2k8 @ May 9 2023, 12:52 PM)

Are you asking because you bagging losses on those funds? 🤦‍♀️

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40% lost now
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Either you trim or you hold only

QUOTE(MUM @ May 9 2023, 03:09 PM)
10% each or 10% total (3.3% each)?

BTW,
Affin Hwang World Series - Global Disruptive Innovation Fund - MYR Hedged and
Affin Hwang World Series - Next Generation Technology Fund - MYR Hedged

I think they are of almost similar mandates.
If want, can try reduce both of them by half each or remove anyone of this 2.
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Not similar mandates 🤦‍♀️ but similar fund that invest in the similar industries

Disruptive is feeder fund to ARKK while Next Gen is feeder fund to Blackrock future tech fund as their holdings are vastly differs to each others 🤦‍♀️

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post May 9 2023, 06:49 PM

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QUOTE(xander2k8 @ May 9 2023, 05:38 PM)

Not similar mandates 🤦‍♀️ but similar fund that invest in the similar industries
What are you talking about...??
"Not similar mandates but similar fund that invest in similar industries"?


Disruptive is feeder fund to ARKK while Next Gen is feeder fund to Blackrock future tech fund as their holdings are vastly differs to each others 🤦‍♀️
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BTW, I did not say similar mandates...I said almost similar mandates

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post May 22 2023, 02:48 PM

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Sad to see this sub being inactive when you know everything has turned to shit. Fixed income to equities.

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post May 22 2023, 03:51 PM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ May 22 2023, 02:48 PM)
Sad to see this sub being inactive when you know everything has turned to shit. Fixed income to equities.
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because market is dead af and nothing seems worth investing in, unless you
1) you have long investment horizon
2) good holding power

investor who fulfill the above might have been quietly collecting what they believe is right
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QUOTE(tadashi987 @ May 22 2023, 03:51 PM)
because market is dead af and nothing seems worth investing in, unless you
1) you have long investment horizon
2) good holding power

investor who fulfill the above might have been quietly collecting what they believe is right
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I have been tracking fixed income funds and their ytd performance seems to be at average 3.4%. Looks like a good place to park savings/funds
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post May 22 2023, 11:25 PM

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Been using fsmone RSP for US ETF for a year, weekly contributions with the free process fees promotion last time.

Gonna change to RSP monthly with the process fees.

Anyone also doing RSP with fsmone?
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post May 23 2023, 12:06 AM

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QUOTE(buffa @ May 22 2023, 11:25 PM)
Been using fsmone RSP for US ETF for a year, weekly contributions with the free process fees promotion last time.

Gonna change to RSP monthly with the process fees.

Anyone also doing RSP with fsmone?
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You can rsp with interactive broker. Cheaper too. Not to mentioned you got access to fractional shares.
https://ibkr.info/article/4470
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post May 23 2023, 09:57 AM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ May 23 2023, 12:06 AM)
You can rsp with interactive broker. Cheaper too. Not to mentioned you got access to fractional shares.
https://ibkr.info/article/4470
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I just opened IBKR account few months ago. So far what I found for RSP US ETF is
IBKR = MYR > SGD > USD then invest, compare to FSMOne = MYR > USD then buy.

Seem like FSMone is easier, and the foreign exchange rate for USD are same as what I can google.

Both charges 1USD for each RSP, same commission.

I guess both of them are similar for RSP US ETF?
Except IBKR can buy/sell US share easily and cheaper.

Do I miss anything?
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QUOTE(buffa @ May 23 2023, 09:57 AM)
I just opened IBKR account few months ago. So far what I found for RSP US ETF is 
IBKR = MYR > SGD > USD then invest, compare to FSMOne = MYR > USD then buy.

Seem like FSMone is easier, and the foreign exchange rate for USD are same as what I can google.

Both charges 1USD for each RSP, same commission.

I guess both of them are similar for RSP US ETF?
Except IBKR can buy/sell US share easily and cheaper.

Do I miss anything?
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Yes. IBKR rates are spot rates. You won't get access to spot rates easily. Spot rates is essentially market rates without any markup.
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QUOTE(buffa @ May 22 2023, 11:25 PM)
Been using fsmone RSP for US ETF for a year, weekly contributions with the free process fees promotion last time.

Gonna change to RSP monthly with the process fees.

Anyone also doing RSP with fsmone?
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I'm using FSMOne for RSP but only monthly though. Weekly seems too much IMO. I've enabled FPX E-Mandate to make it auto. Used Rakuten before but I'm not a big fan of their app and UI but they have cheaper fees.

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