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post Oct 17 2020, 10:33 AM

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QUOTE(edmund_yung @ Oct 16 2020, 09:37 PM)
I remember 2700X was around RM1.5k mark right? The 3700X is cheaper at launch.
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I got it bundle with motherboard. If I remember it correctly they selling at RM1.4k for CPU alone.
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post Oct 31 2020, 02:39 PM

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QUOTE(CyrusWong @ Oct 31 2020, 02:37 AM)
3950x + 5700xt
using latest chipset & gpu driver

feel lag in game, got free synce enabled, 100-200fps, but still feel lag. already make sure no cool boot issue.

after some try, I notice that lag is gone when i use windows built in "High performance" power profile, the "AMD Ryzen High Performance" will have lag, not sure why, previous driver no prob, and the cool boot issue happen more frequently even thought I disabled fast boot in bios.

I will just stay with windows built in 1, since can't notice the different oso
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Monitor is Asus ROG Strix XG32VQR?
Already try these settings as recommended by AMD?
https://www.amd.com/en/technologies/free-sync-settings

I follow this guide to set 3 FPS limit below display’s maximum refresh rate.
https://blurbusters.com/gsync/gsync101-inpu...nd-settings/14/
It's for Nvidia but can also be applied to AMD
https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/elurd...timal_settings/

You can read more about stutter and tearing by clicking the drop down button on that blurbusters page.
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post Nov 1 2020, 05:40 PM

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QUOTE(climacool @ Nov 1 2020, 11:59 AM)
Heavy usage only in gaming, other than that just work/youtube/streaming ...
I guess 5600x pretty good enough
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If gaming then better wait see independent 5600X benchmark how much better it will be for gaming.
If what AMD hype happens to be true, might be worth to pair it with Radeon card.
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post Nov 2 2020, 12:16 PM

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QUOTE(Icecoolz93 @ Nov 2 2020, 11:56 AM)
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From Ideal Tech Ryzen stock alot sold out is it mean they clear way for Ryzen 5000 series coming out in few days?
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Most likely. Imagine dealer is like your pocket, only limited things can put inside which always full, as that way can maximized the pocket. Now coming new thing so existing thing in the pocket need to clear out. Doesn't mean in future the old clear out thing won't put back, if the new thing less demand and still got plenty demand for old thing, then will put back old thing.
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post Nov 4 2020, 07:49 AM

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QUOTE(yimingwuzere @ Nov 4 2020, 01:06 AM)
I'm aware that the six and eight cores have weak value vs the 12/16 core variants. Still on the fence with the CPU though.

Re: the G.skill kit, what RAM die is it using, based on checks with Thaiphoon etc? My only concern is pricing vs Micron revE - I found a Crucial Ballistix 32GB 3200 C16 kit at US$159 on Amazon after shipping/taxes. I don't mind paying a bit more for stock from a local distributor, but as long as the price makes sense relative to the competition.
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If you for game you don't need until 8 cores so 5600X is enough, if you want CPU processing then 5900X with 50% more cores at extra 20% price makes more value. So yeah, 5800X is really poor value.
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post Nov 11 2020, 12:49 AM

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Corsair got good offer for RAM from 12AM until 2AM
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post Nov 11 2020, 01:27 AM

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QUOTE(Fizzy-Fiz @ Nov 11 2020, 01:24 AM)
those are a bag of chocolates though
could be micron samsung or sk hynix
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Most likely hynix
But price is cheap. Also got 2 weeks return
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post Nov 11 2020, 06:49 PM

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QUOTE(edmund_yung @ Nov 11 2020, 11:32 AM)
Need to have defect to return it right? Can't just say I'm looking from Micron lol
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"15 Days Free Return for all Shopee Mall products to ensure that you are happy with your purchase."

Maybe can say not happy with the purchase laugh.gif
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post Nov 12 2020, 06:47 PM

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So I bought Corsair LPX 32GB kit and just installed in my system.

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Samsung B die?

nrw
This RAM is good?
Right now put on XMP and all settings auto
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post Nov 12 2020, 07:26 PM

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QUOTE(nrw @ Nov 12 2020, 07:01 PM)
Thaiphoon Burner famous for false detections biggrin.gif

You can try to set TRFC to 288 n see if it posts.
If it does those are B-Die's. But probably it won't cuz there's Samsung C-Dies on it so be prepared for a CMOS reset  tongue.gif
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Got other program for better detection?
This RAM is dual rank right?
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post Nov 12 2020, 08:56 PM

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QUOTE(nrw @ Nov 12 2020, 07:01 PM)
Thaiphoon Burner famous for false detections biggrin.gif

You can try to set TRFC to 288 n see if it posts.
If it does those are B-Die's. But probably it won't cuz there's Samsung C-Dies on it so be prepared for a CMOS reset  tongue.gif
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Didn't POST. tongue.gif

Man, this RAM is a real b1tch. Change a bit timing and it won't POST. Touch anything and it won't POST. My ex CJR will POST with almost any setting albeit fail mem test. Only change I manage to do is tighten timing to 16-17-17
Now running mem test
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post Nov 12 2020, 08:57 PM

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QUOTE(sonyfanzz @ Nov 12 2020, 08:12 PM)
Got version number on box? I rmb only certain version is real B die
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Where at the box to find version number?
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post Nov 13 2020, 12:26 PM

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QUOTE(llk @ Nov 12 2020, 10:23 PM)
Check the sticker on your ram,

Ver3.21 = Micron 4Gbit Rev.B
Ver3.22 = Micron 4Gbit Rev.F
Ver3.31 = Micron 8Gbit Rev.B
Ver4.23 = Samsung 4Gbit D-die
Ver4.24 = Samsung 4Gbit E-die
Ver4.31 = Samsung 8GBit B-Die
Ver5.20 = Hynix 4Gbit AFR
Ver5.29 = Hynix 4Gbit MFR
Ver5.30 = Hynix 8Gbit AFR
Ver5.32 = Hynix 8Gbit CFR (they are probably either AFR or MFR)
Ver5.39 = Hynix 8GBit MFR

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A bit hassle to take out. I guess is b die but low quality one, read it Samsung now also produce lower quality cheap b die.

QUOTE(nrw @ Nov 12 2020, 11:12 PM)
C-Dies possibly then. They can do 3600 reasonably well. If you want I can drop you some timings.
But the thing is they've got quite some variance so they are annoying to OC.
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Yes, please. Using DRAM Calculator setting also can't boot.
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post Nov 20 2020, 08:46 PM

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QUOTE(targon @ Nov 20 2020, 08:35 PM)
My experience with Amd ryzen since last year is a mix bag.
Got a 3900x first, went dead barely one month of use ( it's not even oc yet). Luckily I have a spare unused 3700x to test. No issues with the 3700x and the mobo. Then got the 3950x when launched last year. Works well.
Then have high hopes on zen 3. Bought a 5950x . But it's a disappointment. It can't work stable on the aorus Xtreme with random windows Bsod due to Whea errors. No issues with the old 3950x.  Went back to the shop, got the chip into another customer dark hero mobo with the same result, Bsod. So shop refunded back via credit note.
Could be a faulty chip, no one can really answer.
Cos I pose the question to giga support, they can't really give me an answer. Putting the blame on windows and  driver s instead.
Been checking on other international sites as well, found out that 5000 series is a hit and miss affair. If it works with your configuration, u re ok. If it doesn't, it will be a nightmare. The current agessa and 5000 series support is crap. Wish Amd has done extensive testing on it.

According to shop technician, they're having most compatibility issues with giga boards.

Morale of the story, cutting edge tech but the hype exceeds the reality. AMD boleh.

6800 experience anyone ? Frame rates aside, overall experience is important. Drivers stability ?
Wish Amd would deliver more with it's products.
Overall customer satisfaction and experience counts and not the high frames, high benchmark scores and the marketing hype.
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That doesn't sound positive for my X470 giga board. sweat.gif
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post Nov 24 2020, 11:40 PM

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QUOTE(jbcoder @ Nov 24 2020, 06:03 PM)
Asrock just removed all references to ryzen 5000 series in their bios page and cpu support list for the b450 board. You can still download the latest bios though, just vague description.

Must've been sounded out by AMD hahahha because this would wreck b550 board sales.

if you've an asrock board and want to use 5000 series cpu, download quick before they pull the actual bios download as well.
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My Giga board got new bios, description is very vague "Enhance CPU compatibility"
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post Nov 25 2020, 05:37 PM

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QUOTE(Someonesim @ Nov 25 2020, 02:38 PM)
IMO, if building new system, just get latest gen, especially you're compare to same range.

I'm from 1700 8c16t to 5600x 6c12t and no regret. Even video convert that's more core the better, I'm not seeing significant longer conversion time.
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You mean now using 5600x, video convert is slower than 1700? Albeit small difference?
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post Dec 11 2020, 03:56 PM

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QUOTE(targon @ Dec 11 2020, 01:44 PM)
Have u all notice the latest price for 5800x is 2398 ?
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I saw 5600X price is RM1,800
That's same as 3800X price when launched.
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post Dec 11 2020, 04:51 PM

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QUOTE(EBBattlefield @ Dec 11 2020, 04:33 PM)
honestly, dont feed scalpers.
if really cannot get stock, PC broke down, just go intel....either 10th 11th gen, or cheap cheap 6th gen clearance sale in garage sale
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As much as I wish to change my CPU and GPU, not gonna feed them with such crazy price.
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post Dec 15 2020, 08:56 AM

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QUOTE(sentlon @ Dec 14 2020, 05:43 PM)
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5600x retail heatsink.
almost fries.
look like amd have horrible temp issues
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Check your case airflow
Check your CPU fan speed
Check your thermal paste
Check your heatsink if tighten
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post Dec 24 2020, 04:42 PM

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QUOTE(Raikkonen @ Dec 24 2020, 04:31 PM)
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Hi tongue.gif

What makes you choose to use AMD Ryzen?

Compared to Intel processors?

My 1st rig was AMD.

Then changed to Intel.
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Hi,

That time I bought Ryzen 2700X, it got 8 cores 16 simultaneous multithreading (SMT). I choose it instead of my old rig with Intel i5 which only got 4 cores and no SMT.

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