You gamer?

What differences you noticed when comparing those two? 

Well if we strictly talk about ts usage 5600x

Any motherboard costing 1k and not more than 1.1k is more than adequate if we talk quality vrm and features wise.

What kind of intensive program?

Adobe After Effects?

Refurbished Ryzen CPU; how much RM averagely cost? 
i3...< RM600.

Nah, I'm good with what i got now and just cant wait to be the white rat on AMD again. So far, i nvr met those weird bsod, crash etc which occurred from others. Guess I'm blessed 

anyway prices of hardware stuff are going up and up shipping tsmc copper all UP so i doubt rocket lakeing will be cheap

topkek Physical copy, no game CD inside 

This is not the only thread. There's other as well in OCN.
Ppl just turned a blind eye if it works.
Failure rate on ryzen 9 5000 is high. Especially 5950x.

hey guys just upgraded from ryzen 3 1200 to ryzen 7 3700x
the temp reach 88c according to hwinfo64 while gaming with negative offset 0.050v, is this normal?

this is my spec:
Case: Tecware Nexus M
CPU: Ryzen 7 3700x (ID Cooling SE-244-XT)
Mobo: Asrock B450M Pro4 (B3.60 Agesa 1.0.0.3)
Ram: Kingston HyperX DDR4 2666Mhz (Oc'ed to 2933Mhz 1.25v)
GPU: Sapphire Pulse RX 580 (70c while gaming underclock and undervolt) 80c if not
PSU: Super Flower Silver Eco 600W

My friend also have a Nexus M, can use more fan on exhaust to improve the airflow inside? He's on Ryzen 1600 + 1060.

My r5 3600 max temp 85c whn stress test with prime95 using matx case and cooler DEEPCOOL GAMMAXX 400 thn i change to ATX case prime95 max temp drop to 75C .I suggest u buy tis nice and cheap Korea brand casing "ABKONCORE CRONOS 650" RM115 only in shopee , damn good air flow as front full mesh .
Front can put 3 x 120/140mm fans , top 2 x 120/140mm fans and rear free 1 x 140mm fans or u can change it to 120mm fan

took them so long.. hopefully will solve my bsod errors on my 3600....yes zen2.

Still getting them at random but very rare. Despite having done over 100 hours of memtest86 and stress tests stable. It will occasionally surprise modafukaaa and goes poof when light browsing or enjoying some music.

Intel might be gg on DIY market,
corporate customer still buying pc with intel CPU, my workplace workstation, lappy, tablet are 100% intel CPU + GPU.
most of them dont really cares about internal tech.

all the lab instrument my company produce are still using intel celeron 
WITH Windows 10... running program from usb drive takes sweets 10 minutes because dumbass windows defender will scan the drive every single time lol

Agree. Hope Rocket Lake does well too so I have a reason to go back to Intel as well.

what u wanna know about rkt.
actual benchmarks?
whats the metric??

i can tell u.

stock cpu mce on
3866c14@1.5v
horizon zero dawn favour performance 212fps @1080p
timespy extreme cpu score 6k+
cb20/23 beats 5800x
cb15 about the same.
fc5, new dawn.. err it beats everything
sottr has a bug.
vermintide 2.. this cpu pushing fps > 10900k@5.3
rkt has no bug on whea etc. no LO, etc etc
it either works or bsod.
only 8x pcie 4.0 16x no meaningful diff.

theres a nea mrc code refresh. so nothing been finalized

It matters to me.

I'm brand agnostic, I go where value is. When I got into Zen 2, the choice was between 3900x and 9900ks. I was about to purchase 9900ks but there was 2 things that didn't quite sing well with me; the fact that the 9900ks at the time was basically paying for 4 year old tech with Intel's lansi face on it (the i9 quite frankly didn't need to exist, they did so to purposely nerf the 9700k to have no HT) and that the 3900x setup was actually cheaper.

I got the 3900x at 1.8k and CH8 mobo at 1.4k - it was 2019 12.12 sale that tipped me over to AMD.

yes even at 3200 xmp it crashed before.. wasapi tend to mess up my volume mixer so i didnt use it. Currently compromising by using direct sound to monitor.

I guess this is the escalation of the usb playback device stuttering issue that happens occasionally which i mentioned last time.. This might be the underlying issue that was causing the auido stutters.. which I also noticed the cpu usage fly up to 100% and everything becomes laggy in that brief moment.

Bonchi if u r on b550/x570 u can also set pcie of ur gpu to 3.0.
that can fix quite some issues you've been describing as well.

Despite of what AMD claims , only a very small handful of chips can reach 2000 with stability 24/7. Of course the mobo can handle it but not the cpu.
Just like the random BSOD issue , it's all silicon lottery playing with Ryzens.

That's Zen 2. He's talking about Zen 3.

plenty here. And Im one of them switching back to intel.