So....um.....I caved in and bought the following:
AMD RYZEN 9 5950X
ASUS  X570 ROG Crosshair VIII Dark Hero

Total damage RM6300

yeap, and generally gaming wont go 100% cpu so power consumption is actually very identical or even lower if compared with 10th gen. Not everyone render 24/7 anyways so in the end it's actually not a concern for everyday usage but AMD's high idle power consumption is a concern.

yeah so flac may cause higher cpu usage on the decompression and somehow it causes my AMD to go full out 4.0ghz all core 88w PPT roaring at 80C++.. which is pretty facepalm  . Thanks to that my whole audio storage has been converted to ALAC And that was why I use full memory buffering and kernel streaming to my USB audio DAC buuuuut, bump into alot of issues with ryzen. Which is one of the many reason why I switched to intel.

meanwhile, now my intel cpu package power while playing flac files on foobar2K with the same encoding options is 8w and below. that's 10 times lower

well, probably foobar2K and wasapi plugin and perhaps also reading files from rar. Well I dont know why it happened also. can only point it to being AMD's problem  ive even set my CPU min state to 0% and undervolted to the point it randomly bsod but still it gets to 4ghz all core whenever a song is played. So i converted all to ALAC and used itunes (ewwwwww)

well, 40w+ idle vs less than 9w idle is still quite a big difference in the longterm especially I believe you also leave your PC on almost 24/7. as you know, room temp slowly increase by delta from the exhaust and being 50C idle especially when you close window, close door, off aircond and go to work..... you will come home to an oven. I had this experience with my 3600. Kinda made me shut down my PC often with AMD but now, my intel is only 1-2C above ambient during idle. I kinda leave it on 24/7 again .

It doesn't look like you're pushing the SoC that much with your RAM speeds. I see higher SoC power usage on my 5800X using RAM at 3733 speeds and 1:1 IF clock, even at idle. Even Rocket Lake capped at 65W can show a disparity when running Gear 1 speeds at 3200+ due to power pulled away from the cores.

i see audiophiles here…hehe

out of topic a bit…

for those who like to customize everything then use foobar2k

for those who like everything works out of the box then musicbee

for those want to keep it simple, i will recommend Sony Music Center for PC
https://www.sony.com.my/electronics/support...les/MC4PC020001

revert to 3401 no longer hit 90C during steam/origin download. 
thanks alot to all sifu that gave advice as well. now i really need to open up as temp is not to my liking or ryzen 5900X is just that hot/warm even under water 70C+ is a norm??

If i would like to go for maximum cooling, with 360mm AIO, what temp I'm expecting?

CORSAIR iCUE H150i Elite Capellix 360MM
NZXT Kraken X73
Lian Li Galahad 360-X ARGB 360MM
ID-Cooling Zoomflow 360X ARGB
Cooler Master MasterLiquid ML360R RGB

My ambient around 28-32C. H150i Elite Capellix can hit 75-78C on 5900X. Higher when gaming.

https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...ost&p=101276275

yea…the pcie config we discussed before…not sure is in this thread or nvidia thread. those who are interested can find back.

i saw some ppl reported the usb disconnected intermittently after raise the flck above 1900.

Yeah, but the idle power consumption is quite crappy compare to my previous i9-9900KS.
The i9 actively lower the clock until 800MHz with 0.8Vcore during light use like desktop work, the power is only hover around ~10W (can see as low as 6W occasionally). Whereas this 5900X lowest clock 3.3GHz, idle power around 25-30W. This is not what i expected from a latest architecture CPU based on more advanced 7nm node.

But of course the full load consumption is better in AMD. By this undervolt setting, the average package power during Cinebench/AIDA64 FPU is around 170W only.

I will say not that bad considering lowest clock only down to 3.3GHz in idle. Would be better if can lower to sub 1GHz in idle, for sure that is going to help on idle power.

My swap from Intel to AMD decision happened within 12 hours last week without really keep up with AMD Zen design since 2 years ago, let alone those in depth details. All i known was AMD rule the high end segment now without answer from Intel.
So basically i left no choice when my motherboard dead on me suddenly (I thought is motherboard end up is 1 of 4 RAM stick fault after swapped to AMD, what a costly mistake ).

I try to pickup everything within a week, PBO, curve optimizer, architecture etc. and start to learn there are quite alot of drawbacks of AMD platform as well, both on the processor and chipset as well, especially memory latency side and memory clock limitation wise.

Currently my rig looks stable in everything, all/single core boost is satisfying, except a crappy cold boot issue of my board, and this is a famous issue online for Asus Rog Strix B550-E series with DOCP enable, consequences of not doing enough homework before land for this board.

Damn, i just use Kryonaut on my CPU cooler :lol

want long lasting can try Honeywell PTM7950SP or PTM7900SP too.

https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r....id=631006993629

How well do other thermal pastes fare against NT-H2 if I wanted to avoid using Kryonaut? E.g. Gelid GC Extreme, Arctic MX-5, etc. Planning to swap coolers with an AIO on my end.

Thanks Sifu for quick reply. That mean downgrading less core 5600x really hurt some real performance of application (not gaming) and waste money. Upgrading 5700G same core the improvement is not so noticeable in real application can benefic right? As for 5800x maybe some review the number is    but this actual not a big performance which can .

Hi all, pretty much a noob here with hardware. Currently, I am using a Ryzen 7 3700X CPU and pairing it with a GALAX 3080 TI SG. Just want to check if this CPU is bottlenecking the performance of the GPU (especially with games like COD Black Ops and Warzone). Am tempted to upgrade the CPU to a Zen 3 architecture CPU but not too sure.