Not really an AMD issue.

That's a bug that people been complaining about for over half a year.

You can check your disk utilization too, if a torrent file is only DLing at kb speeds, your disk utilization is still at or near 99% most of the time. If you're not DLing but only ULing, the same issue can happen sporadically as well. Doesn't matter if the file is on a SSD or HDD, exhibits the same issue.

If this was pre covid, in a perfect world, then sure those prices for Intel is retarded.

But in reality now, Zen 3 doesn't exist so it doesn't even matter if intel is more expensive on paper. Street price is what's most important.

Intel makes their own CPUs. AMD contracts TSMC which is stretched thin to within their butt cheeks.

If there are plentiful stock, scalp what?

AMD CPUs shot up in price because there was not enough supply, demand > supply. Coupled that with the fact that x570 mobos hasn't moved much for a while since the announcement for Zen 3 meant that it encouraged sellers to bundle all other kinds of items within a purchase.

Obviously as usual, prices in this country does not reflect the prices of other countries. Of course Rocket Lake will be more expensive than it should be, but I don't see it being scalped to the extent of Zen 3.

X570 chipsets are HOT AF.

On my CH8, idle is 58c lmao in a room where ambient is 21c. And yes my case is well optimized for positive air flow and I do have air passing over the chipset areas.

And no, it doesn't get much cooler than that no matter what you do.

My bro in law lives in Texas. The recent snow storm he had to use his system to heat up the room. Water block ain't gonna do shit.

Just stay at 3800mhz, tighten your timings and be happy. 4000mhz doesn't offer anything over 3800mhz other than self circle jerk satisfaction.

I've already managed 4000mhz 1:1 IF, took quite a bit of effort and wasted time ultimately. Monitored that the CPU boosts more erratically than it normaly does. It's not unstable but it ramps the fans up and down for next to no perf gain. So just went back to 3800 and tighten the sub timings instead.

Per core CO is still available on my CH8 with AGESA 1.2.0.0.

My experience so far is that AGESA 1.2.0.0 (final, non beta) has been the best BIOS release for Zen 3 yet. I haven't had a single error for the last 35 days and counting, which is a first for Zen 3.

I don't have a 3090, but I do have a 3080 with a VR setup. No connectivity issues for me. Ironic enough nvidia drivers are the ones causing issues for VR instead lol.

Neither had any with the load of DACs and amps that I test on a weekly basis. Also have several arcade sticks and a simple racing rig too, all never had connectivity issues.

This post has been edited by SSJBen: Mar 9 2021, 01:19 PM

Huh? Who said so?

My opinion is that 5800x remains a stupid CPU because of its price being so close to 5900x. The latter also suffers less from temp hotspot, meaning better PBO and less irritating fan ramp fluctuations.

If you only need an 8 core, get a 10700k instead at this point or wait for RKL.

It is true that 5800x availability is more widespread than 5600x, that's probably the reason for the suggestion of it. But I still think that if anyone who wants just an 8c16t CPU, go for the 10700k instead.


Well 5800x has also risen to 5900x old price too. The 5950x is now also a RM4k CPU. 5900x can be had for RM3.1k, you're saving a measly RM600 for a 5800x...? Why?

5800x has the worst silicon quality if you want to play the lottery too. 8 cores 16 threads crammed into a single little chiplet, that's why the hottest reported Zen 3 SKU is the 5800x and NOT the 5950x.

Fair point. With prices on market fluctuating these days, it's difficult to compare just with MSRP alone.


Nice temps, definitely won the lottery there. No issues with USB connectivity, cold boot, or WHEA errors?

Appreciate the feedback.

I too am running at 3800c16 with tighten sub timings, absolutely rock stable so far.

I believe there is one last major AGESA release left for Zen 3, probably slated for summer of this year.

It could be bandwidth related, but as far as I've experienced - doesn't seem to be the only reason for connectivity issues. I have 3 external drives connected all the time too, so coupled that with the DACs I test and when gaming in VR/fighting/racing, the bandwidth load on the I/O should be very high. This is reflected in the ridiculous heat output on the X570 chipset specifically on the CH8, which goes up to 69c for me.

So what Bonchi experienced goes deeper than just I/O bandwidth IMO.

VR has been broken for months with nvidia drivers. 461.09 improved things, but still far from perfect. I'm still getting the odd judder here and there, doesn't make it unplayable like before where there are over 200ms frame spikes every few seconds. The last properly working driver was 446.14, but fucking 3080 doesn't work on that driver now does it? Dumbass nvidia.

This post has been edited by SSJBen: Mar 10 2021, 05:06 PM

I think they are stuck in a conundrum. There are more people without the issues than there are with issues.

Now if they proceed and fix it for those with issues (because AGESA's tradition is fix one thing and break 10 other things), the ones without issues might THEN have issues lol. I don't think they know how to deal with that.

This post has been edited by SSJBen: Mar 10 2021, 06:34 PM

Fix L3 cache bug in AIDA64 benchmark.

No, the L3 cache was read wrongly in AIDA64. It's not read wrongly anywhere else. Don't have to update unless you absolutely love to just play AIDA benchmarks.

BIOS backup to new version is pointless. In fact I suggest you never use your back up from a previous version. There has been many reports when going from one version to the next, even if the backup works the settings may not be identical. This is because AGESA can move certain options around and the backup values are stored as a table.

So if the table is no longer identical, the BIOS no longer knows which value goes where and that's why it blocks it from applying your precious settings. Certain boards (Asus especially) allows the backup to be applied regardless, but there is a big chance your system would not boot up anyways. I know a guy from OCN he used his back up when going from AGESA 1.0.0.3 ABBA to 1.0.0.4 patch B, what he didn't realize was that the voltage options has changed places so his RAM voltage now has been taken place of the IOD. Meaning he was pumping 1.4v into the IOD and that basically has only 1 outcome - fail boot.

OTOH reading some reports that 1.2.0.1 fixed USB drop out issues on Asus x570 boards. Hmm..

Usually it's the IF and your RAM causing issues. Lower your RAM speed or perhaps up the voltage and see how it goes.