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post Aug 9 2017, 01:16 PM

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Aug 7 2017, 11:01 PM)
OK here's a view on how much surface area the typical AIO water block can cover. wink.gif
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nice, that means 2011 is like half the size of TR. Eh thats big :>

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post Aug 9 2017, 01:43 PM

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Ok threadripper preorder price announced, 1950x rm4799, 1920x rm3899
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QUOTE(llk @ Aug 9 2017, 01:43 PM)
Ok threadripper preorder price announced, 1950x rm4799, 1920x rm3899
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Probably only need this after 10 years.
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QUOTE(TristanX @ Aug 9 2017, 02:11 PM)
Probably only need this after 10 years.
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post Aug 9 2017, 04:53 PM

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1st Threadripper in a laptop will probably cost 40k, with dual Vega64, all liquid cooled. Oh btw, its an Apple, MBP with 8k super mega ultra high def screen.
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post Aug 10 2017, 09:18 AM

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Please help me choose RAM and mobo for Ryzen

Getting a Ryzen 5 1500x or 1600 (still undecided)
Mobo A350 (still undecided)
Need 16gb ram, or 2x 8Gb
assume if get 2x 8gb of same ram it will run dual channel

- usuage internet browsing with multiple tabs / youtube, my current 8gb is running out of memory fast.
- dont game.

I dont need anything fancy, price of 2133 is so similar to 2400 so I will get the later instead.

Any other recommendation is welcome not on my list.

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Budget RAM
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RM 250 - 2133Mhz tho
Silicon Power Desktop Longdimm 8GB DDR4 - 2133Mhz

RM 260
GALAX 8GB DDR 4 2400MHZ CL16 DDR4 RAM

is this Galax ram ok? its soo cheap and also lifetime warranty.
Really temped to get 2x of these, probably just do the job.

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Normal Ram
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price range from 289-315
Please help me have 2-3 shortlist, its already sorted in price order.
My current thinking is get the branded ones for easy rma if anything goes wrong, and maybe its better quality/reliable.
eg kingston, gskill?

RM 289
ADATA PREMIER DDR4 2400 8GB DESKTOP PC RAM

RM 290
Kingston ValueRAM 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4 2400 RAM

RM 290
Adata XPG Hyper PC Ram DDr4-2400 8GB Ram (single)

RM 293
Gskill Aegis 8GB DDR4 2400MHZ

RM 589
16GB G SKILL RIPJAWS V SERIES 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 2400 PC RAM

RM 299
Avexir Core Series DDR4/2400Mhz/8GB/LED

RM 298
Geil Super Luce 8GB DDR4 2400MHz Single Channel Kit

RM 315
Crucial 8GB DDR4 2400Mhz Desktop Value Ram - CT8G4DFD824A

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Semi-Performance Ram
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RM 654
Corsair Vengeance® LPX 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 DRAM 2666MHz C16 Memory Kit - Black (CMK16GX4M2A2666C16)

probably would not get this ram, as I rather put money into better cpu, mobo or ssd.
Dont think its value for money

This post has been edited by Leon be here now: Aug 10 2017, 09:28 AM
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post Aug 10 2017, 10:47 AM

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mobo shortlist

ASRock AB350M
ASROCK AB350M Pro4
Asus Prime B350M-A - 445

Only majour concern is if in future I like to add fast NVMe SSD
Just plug into any of the above mobo M.2 slot right?

https://www.lelong.com.my/asrock-ab350m-pro...7-09-Sale-P.htm

Slots: it says
- 1 x PCI Express 3.0 x16 Slot (PCIE2: x16 mode)*
*Supports NVMe SSD as boot disks

does that mean if i have a NVMe SSD as boot disks need to disable cant use the PCI E3.0 x16 for potential gaming?
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post Aug 10 2017, 07:26 PM

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QUOTE(Leon be here now @ Aug 10 2017, 10:47 AM)
mobo shortlist

ASRock AB350M
ASROCK AB350M Pro4
Asus Prime B350M-A - 445

Only majour concern is if in future I like to add fast NVMe SSD
Just plug into any of the above mobo M.2 slot right?

https://www.lelong.com.my/asrock-ab350m-pro...7-09-Sale-P.htm

Slots: it says
- 1 x PCI Express 3.0 x16 Slot (PCIE2: x16 mode)*
*Supports NVMe SSD as boot disks

does that mean if i have a NVMe SSD as boot disks need to disable cant use the PCI E3.0 x16 for potential gaming?
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Since you just do a multasking get a ryzen 1400-1500 probably good enough for you,for mortherboard
get a ASRock AB350 because it ATX,and about the NVMe SSD here what i found on they website
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it say is M_1 is occupied PCIE4 will be disabled

This post has been edited by Doraku: Aug 10 2017, 07:27 PM
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post Aug 10 2017, 07:27 PM

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what time TR review NDA will be lifted? biggrin.gif
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post Aug 10 2017, 07:31 PM

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QUOTE(Darksorrow3010 @ Aug 10 2017, 07:27 PM)
what time TR review NDA will be lifted? biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Doraku @ Aug 10 2017, 07:26 PM)
Since you just do a multasking get a ryzen 1400-1500 probably good enough for you,for mortherboard
get a ASRock AB350 because it ATX,and about the NVMe SSD here what i found on they website
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it say is M_1 is occupied PCIE4 will be disabled
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yeh realized the 1500x would probably suit me more as its got faster single thread.
but it at the end top up around rm130-150 bit more for the 6 core instead.
will use it to mine xmr to recoup some of my money back too too hehe.

ryzen 5 1400 in my opinion no one should get it as its only around RM80 extra for the 1500x
the performance increases is really worth it, unless you are on a real tight budget

its same situation between 1200 vs 1300x

got that mobo, also a ryzen 5 1600, 2x 8gb ram, case, psu, network switch, belkin serge protector
ssd reuse, gpu reuse

shopback had this 20% visa cashback expired 10.8.17,
cap RM80 per order, cap RM315 from lazada per month, i got 3 acc hehe.

spent a lot with lazada today.
lots of things were selling out fast, especially the rams.

oh got Asus Prime B350M-A instead, there were no listing in lazada for asock ab350,
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post Aug 11 2017, 01:27 AM

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https://www.goldfries.com/hardware-reviews/...x-1950x-review/

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I also made a video to show you guys how the installation of Ryzen Threadripper is different from other processors.


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post Aug 11 2017, 10:04 AM

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Aug 11 2017, 01:27 AM)
https://www.goldfries.com/hardware-reviews/...x-1950x-review/

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I also made a video to show you guys how the installation of Ryzen Threadripper is different from other processors.


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Bro, in 0.39 ~0.40 in your video footage. I think your camera put too near. I can only see the pins on the socket. The smaller lid, orange plastic thingie on the processor and how precisely you slot in the processor cant really see clearly..
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post Aug 11 2017, 10:06 AM

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Seems like TR can clock so much better than Ryzen. Most reviewer mentioned that they only need 1.25V for 4Ghz for a 16 core CPU. That is pretty impressive. Only 65C on a 240mm AIO cooler on a load test with all core at 4ghz.
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QUOTE(k!nex @ Aug 11 2017, 10:06 AM)
Seems like TR can clock so  much better than Ryzen. Most reviewer mentioned that they only need 1.25V for 4Ghz for a 16 core CPU. That is pretty impressive. Only 65C on a 240mm AIO cooler on a load test with all core at 4ghz.
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Threadripper consist of upper 5% binned ryzen chip, so no surprise it is slightly better than ryzen, most also 4.1-4.2ghz.
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QUOTE(k!nex @ Aug 11 2017, 10:04 AM)
Bro, in 0.39 ~0.40 in your video footage. I think your camera put too near. I can only see the pins on the socket. The smaller lid, orange plastic thingie on the processor and how precisely you slot in the processor cant really see clearly..
Thanks. I'm aware of it but didn't care, short of time so I focus on the socket area because locking it in place is the important one.

Sliding it to the holding plate, nothing much to show. biggrin.gif

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post Aug 11 2017, 01:44 PM

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is there diffrrence in ram clock 2400mhz with 3000mhz and above?
most reviews i seen shows very minor improvement or none in gaming.
how bout in rendering (premiere/AE)?

rig is ryzen 1700 , 8gbx2 2400mhz avexir

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post Aug 11 2017, 02:40 PM

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QUOTE(mastering89 @ Aug 11 2017, 01:44 PM)
is there diffrrence in ram clock 2400mhz with 3000mhz and above?
most reviews i seen shows very minor improvement or none in gaming.
how bout in rendering (premiere/AE)?

rig is ryzen 1700 , 8gbx2 2400mhz avexir
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yes, most review (can check in youtube) show some noticeable game performance using higher speed Ram.
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QUOTE(mastering89 @ Aug 11 2017, 01:44 PM)
is there diffrrence in ram clock 2400mhz with 3000mhz and above?
most reviews i seen shows very minor improvement or none in gaming.
how bout in rendering (premiere/AE)?

rig is ryzen 1700 , 8gbx2 2400mhz avexir
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Last I tested - yes, it's neither major nor minor but there's an improvement.


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Ryzen 7 1700@3.7Ghz 1.3V w/ Wraith Spire RGB
G.Skill Tridentz RGB 8GBX2 F4-3200C16D-GTZR
MSI x370 Gaming Pro Carbon
Intel 330 SSD 120GB
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