Several local car sites reported it's List Price at RM180 for 4L pack and Recommended retail price at RM165.

Some Giant stores have been offering Shell Helix Ultra 5W40 (with MB 229.5 approval) at RM99 , if you are fine with the higher viscosity grade.

The bold above may contribute to the implied fuel dilution phenomenon in this blotter spot test sample with a translucent halo annulus at the outermost zone imho.

As you are taking blotter spot tests periodically at intervals of say, every 2000-3000 km you may compare your results against many other blotter spots of similar Syntium 5W30 oils and/or samples of similar Proton engines as summarised in Post #1 of this thread.

This post has been edited by zeng: Jun 8 2021, 07:53 AM

Mobil 1 New Life 0W40 (Tesco) MB229.5
Oil Life : 8,784 km
6 months oil life .
ODO :322,798 km in
Car model: 2007 Toyota Avanza 1.3L
Engine: K3VE Multi Port Injection
Make up oil added : Nil, but .............
After current blotter spot test, some 100 mL of graphited engine oil in Elf Molygraphite 15W50 is added for its friction-reducing additives.

48 hour blotters,




Comments to follow....
Ok, the centre zone of this 8,784 km M1 0W40 is a bit grayish but remains transparent and not darkened yet indicating a moderate level of heavy and/or big sized contaminants and dirts is present.

Aureole zone/perimeter ring is not darkened but merged nicely such one cannot visually 'see' the demarcation between centre zone vs aureole zone vs diffusion zone, i.e 'structures' are kind of not formed.
It indicates the contaminants are very well spread out from centre zone and it has not begun agglomeration and thus is good news.

Diffusion zone (of inner half) is slightly grayish but remains transparent. The outer part of diffusion zone looks like a clean annulus indicating very negligible amount of dirt contaminants.

The jagged edge has begun to darken a bit indicating water moisture content seems to be building up, but no harm for now imho.

There may be a very faint shadow of translucent halo at the outermost zone .....
possibly very light level of fuel dilution IDK. How I wish inter-state travel balik kampung is not prohibited under current mco , so that this fuel thing may be 'evaporated' off with a high rpm drive of an hour or more.

Overall I'm of the opinion this M1 0W40 at 8,784 kms is fit for continuing service and remains good to go.

Note: These current blotters at 8,784 km contains purely M1 0W40 oil .
The 100 ml of so of Elf Molygraphite 15W50 is today added on for its friction-reducing additives as a 'top up'.

Note2: The dark black dots in the centres of the blotter spots are probably caused by dipstick ends in contact with the A4 paper whilst taking sample.

This post has been edited by zeng: Jun 8 2021, 09:02 PM

Proton inspira.
Car mileage : 178k km
Total semi 10w-40. 7500km. 24 hrs.
Looking clean n good.

Hi bro, sorry for the delayed response ....

You are right. It is clean and good.

Centre zone is not grayish or darkened, indicating quite low levels of heavy (metal wear?) or big sized contaminants within this 7500 km blotter sample. This is good news partially.

Just outside of Centre Zone is the aureole zone/ perimeter ring which 'unfortunately' seems to be emerging with slightly darkened shade ring indicating the phenomenon of agglomeration of combustion by-products has begun......though the used oil's detergency and dispersancy property has remained intact and in top shape thus far.

This darkening trend of aureole zone/perimeter ring is something to monitor closely with continuing further use of this 7500 km used Total 10W40 oil, if you so wished which I would.

External to this Aureole zone is the diffussion zone which is very light coloured, clean and transparent, indicating very low levels of contaminants (of lighter mass and density) within and it still carries plentiful detergency/dispersancy reserve capacity of absorbing/attracting additional quantities of 'foreign' materials yet to be released as combustion by-products with further use.

There is absence of darkened jagged external edge outside of Diffussion zone indicating absence of water moisture content within the used oil.

Another good news here is the absence of translucent halo at the outermost zone indicating absence of fuel dilution phenomenon.

In general I believe this 7500 km used oil is still in good shape and fit for continuing use, if one so wishes.

This Inspira engine of yours at 178k kms seems to be in very good shape and well taken care of imho.

Edit: Are you continuing the use of this 7500 kms Total oil?

This post has been edited by zeng: Aug 2 2021, 10:24 AM

Will continue using till 10k km. Thanks Zeng for your view on the used oil.

The following description may apply in your case :-


Bitog

Now my oil is probably somewhere in condition 3. Probably it will become condition 6 after more use isn't it?
Normally how long in terms of km will it turn to 6?

Granted blotter tests are principally jugdemental and qualitative in the sense that it could not be 'quantified', I would rank your 7500 km Total 10W40 sample as somewhere around 1.7 or 1.8 where darkened aureole zone is yet to form.

Of course we could sometimes argue it is higher at 2.5 etc.

To get closer to Spot 3, your Total 10W40 could probably go up to 11,000 - 14,000 kms.

Spot 6 ? That's still very far imho until one gets into the regime above 20,000 km for this semisyn.

Note:Post #1 has links to some 15 blotter spot tests of my Total 7000 Energy 10W40 (SL A3B4) samples for comparison purpose.

Edit: Even though a Used Oil Analysis is 'quantitative' in providing numerical ppm's of various metal wear or metal elements, it is still basically a judgemental and qualitative analysis in terms of assessment/evaluation as to the state of 'wear' of the used oil sample and its stage of oil life journey etc.

This post has been edited by zeng: Aug 5 2021, 02:41 PM

please don't continue with misinformation.

UOA have TBN and TAN assessment and that is a definitive and quantitative assessment of an oil lifespan.
HARD SOLID NUMBERS that you cannot judge and bias with.

I am using Syntium 3000 5w-30 also and I normally change it out when it kilometers hits 7000 - 8000 or in between 9-12 months.

Honda City GM2 year 2009
Current Odo : 145,045km
Date: 12/08/2021
Blotter time : 8:00am (picture after 48hrs)
oil age : 7,456km
Engine oil used : Aisin Engine Oil Fully Synthetic with Pao + Ester SN/CF 5W30 (4L)

This post has been edited by 90Boyz: Aug 14 2021, 09:45 PM

Phewww...... the used oil blotter sample at 7500ish kms is like a new or underused oil.

The blotter is very clean, light coloured and transparent without 'structures' which indicates tip-top condition of this used oil.

There is total absence of slightly grayish/darkened Centre Zone, aureole zone (perimeter ring), Diffusion Zone etc indicating very very low levels of metal wears and combustion by-products.

No darkened external jagged edge (meaning little or no water moisture) and no translucent halo at outermost zone meaning no fuel dilution phenomenon.

The combination of engine mechanical condition, quality of this Aisin Pao+Ester and your driving pattern/maintenance regimes all contribute to this near-perfect blotter spot test sample at 7500ish kms, with a long long way to go as far as oil life is concerned.

In a way, this 145k kms 2009 Honda engine is like new!

Congratulations.

Edit: Just realise both Aisin Pao+Ester 5W30 and 5W40 are all Mid-SaPS oils, where Mid or Low SaPS are the ways to go folks.

This post has been edited by zeng: Aug 15 2021, 12:31 PM

Thanks .
Oil level are dropping into low zone due to multi point leakage on engine
need to survey on getting reputed workshop to get it fix .
Next oil might be trying out is EXNII Extentios Molyplus

First check 30-40 mm below valve cover gasket level all around, if slightly 'wet' then valve cover gasket is the only problem and all others ok

If dry, next check spark plugs areas one by one. If 'wet', only spark plug(s) areas are leaking and other areas ok. If dry, no leaks from here.

Both the scenarios above are fast , easy and low cost jobs.

If both valve cover surroundings and all spark plug areas are dry, then check

a )around timing cover and,

b )bottom sump areas all round.

Dry one means good and no leak.

Slightly wet area is at oil sump nearer to transmission ---

it is front crankshaft oil seal only leaks (right between engine flywheel and manual/auto transmission). Timing cover no leaks.

If wet is observed on and below timing cover, then only timing cover is leaking. Front oil seal is ok.

In either one of both above , labour to replace oil seal is longer duration and more $$$.

Among the 4 potential leaking areas above, if your mechanic recommends any two areas or more of above .....
walk away from this mechanic and seek second opinion,
for you are striking lottery/jackpot IF if any two areas (out of 4) are both leaking simultaneously.

I suspect it is your valve cover gasket leaking.... which is quick and low rm to make good.

This post has been edited by zeng: Aug 16 2021, 01:27 PM

Mobil 1 New Life 0W40 (Tesco) MB229.5
Oil Life : 11,080 km
8 months oil life .
ODO :325,093 km in
Car model: 2007 Toyota Avanza 1.3L
Engine: K3VE Multi Port Injection
Make up oil added : Nil, but dipstick level drops a little bit.
Added some 100 mL of graphited engine oil in Elf Molygraphite 15W50 at ODO 323k km 2 months ago.

48 hour blotters,




With additional 2300 ish km travelled, previous evaluation on 2 months ago more or less Still applies in current blotter spot test.

Centre zone is transparent not darkened, absence of darkened aureole zone/perimeter, diffusion zone is transparent, some moisture signs and very very light fuel dilution halo, as like before.

No indication of commencement of agglomeration of dirt particles.

Detergency and Dispersancy properties are still performing as it should.

Imho, this 11,080 km used oil is still fit for continuing service and hence, keep going ..............

This post has been edited by zeng: Aug 19 2021, 10:07 AM

Latest update:

This Shell HX8 X 5W30 currently has MB229.5 OEM approval!

Kudos to Shell....

I would highly recommend this very high specs with strong components protection HX8 X 5W30 oils to those of you who prefers xW30 to an xW40.




This post has been edited by zeng: Aug 25 2021, 09:28 AM

Hi,

New development as stated above.

The current generation of Shell HX8 X 5W30 with a newly acquired OEM MB 229.5 approval status would beat the hell out of the relatively 'lowly' Petronas Syntium 3000 5W30, in terms of performance specifications.

This post has been edited by zeng: Aug 25 2021, 10:15 PM

I believe the current HX8X in market circulation are the still old stock without the MB229.5 approval. Probably have to wait until next year before we start seeing the newly enhanced HX8X.

On July 2020 after 18 months and 27k kms later at Odo 306,197 km another ATF drain and fill was carried out whereby one bottle 473 mL of K&W High Mileage Trans-X 75K Automatic Transmission Treatment was added, for the fun of it rather than related to any transmission shift problem then.

The transmission shift has smoothened and improved especially during everyday cold morning first shift.

Attached below is a 13 month 'dirtier' looking ATF Blotter Spot Test K&W mixture after 18,896 km at Odo 325,093 km and going......











This post has been edited by zeng: Aug 26 2021, 01:18 PM


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Hi bro Zeng, pls help to review .
Suzuki swift 2007 1.5l, using Petronas 5w30 Syntium 3000 FR Fully Synthetic

Last changed EO on 3-July-2020
Current mileage clocked at 98k
EO only run for 3K

1st photo: 24 hours
2nd photo: 48 hours

This car is only used for short distance travelling.
EO still can continue to use?


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