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 Blotter Spot Test Oil Analysis:VOA Helix HX7 5W30, 16,286 km blotter Shell Helix Ultra 5W40

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post Nov 22 2018, 03:35 PM

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How is this oil doing?

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post Nov 22 2018, 05:20 PM

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QUOTE(cempedaklife @ Nov 22 2018, 04:47 PM)
LOL. Didn't know anyone is still using Honda oil like me.
I'm on 110k km now
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I think the Honda oil is adequate enough for normal day to day drive. No need oil that are too extreme smile.gif
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post Nov 23 2018, 08:50 AM

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QUOTE(zeng @ Nov 23 2018, 08:44 AM)
This oil is still doing fine and appears to be quite clear of grey dark contaminants, indicating good mechanical condition.
However, there is appearance of a centre zone perimeter ring that correlates with dispersancy capability of this used oil and that's something to keep watch, IMHO.
Having said this, I think this used oil is good to go on.

Cempedak has similar HGEO 0W30 in use and seems to have similar trends in emergence of perimeter ring at rather low oil mileage.

Maybe you should take another blotter spot 2000 - 3000 km down the road and see how the perimeter ring develops ?

Btw, what's the car/engine model in use ?
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Ok.. I will update you guys after another 3000KM. The car is Honda City 2010 model with L15A7. I take good care of the engine and seldom rev it above 3,000 RPM. Drive like an uncle in order not to stress out the engine and gearbox. Oil change are usually set at around 7 - 9k mileage.

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post Nov 24 2018, 03:11 PM

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QUOTE(alphaz @ Nov 24 2018, 06:54 AM)
Follow up of my Shell Helix Ultra 5w30 at 14,000 km.

19 hour blot:

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37 hour blot:

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What do you think?
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I think its time to change your engine oil.. Looks brownish already. My guess is the brownish color particles are combustion soot.
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post Feb 6 2019, 05:55 PM

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A bit free so I want to update you guys on the latest blotter test I've taken from the current Honda Fully Synthetic SN0W30 engine oil as below.

Attached Image @ 3,222KM

Attached Image @ 4622KM

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post Feb 9 2019, 10:14 AM

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QUOTE(zeng @ Feb 9 2019, 10:07 AM)
The perimeter ring of centre zone disappears in later blotter spot sample, which is good news indicating detergency/dispersancy properties of this Honda oil is still strong.
Unable to figure out why do earlier 3222 km sample  demonstrates some signs of perimeter ring that disappers in longer use ?
Generally later 4622 km sample is more grayish, indicating higher amount of combustion by-products and that's normal for an oil in use longer, IMHO.
Looks like this used Honda 0W30 is good to go for another 2000-4000 km and then see how the blotter spot develops.
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I think I know why there's a perimeter ring on the first (3,222) blotter test. That's because I let the drip of oil dry up without moving it around the paper.

On the 2nd test, I basically turn the paper in a circular motion to spread the oil more evenly.
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post Feb 10 2019, 07:58 AM

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QUOTE(e-lite @ Feb 9 2019, 09:38 PM)
Your second method is not the correct method. You actually want to see how well the oil can bring particles to the edges. So your second blotter test should be invalid
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ic... noted on the comment. However, I think different paper quality will also affect on how the oil actually spreads too. So the end result will also depends on what type of paper is being used.

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post Feb 18 2020, 08:11 PM

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QUOTE(zeng @ Feb 18 2020, 07:08 PM)
Before semisyn and fullsyn, I have been on Petronas Supremo CI4 15W40 for several years at up to 9000 km .
This 3000 LS is mid SaPS in CJ4, which is slightly higher spec'ed than my previous CI4 .
Personally, I have no qualms going for 10,000 km oci or more and comfortable about it .
Your comfort level may vary though .
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Any comments on the Syntium Fully Synthetic 3000 series 5W30 oil?
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post Feb 19 2020, 01:54 PM

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QUOTE(zeng @ Feb 19 2020, 12:58 PM)
If you mean the local Petronas version of Syntium 3000 series 5W30 , it has stronger spec (than SN/SM) in Dexos 1 Gen 2 .
GM approves this oil up to 10,000 miles (16,000 km) oil change intervals in States .

If you mean this  imported Petronas Syntium 3000 FR 5W30 , it has stronger spec (than SN/SM) in Ford 913D specification .
Ford US too approves this oil for up to 10,000 miles (16,000 km) oil change intervals .

In Asian/US engines, use these 2 oils with peace of mind even with above stipulated oci .

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Thanks for the information.. Guess I'll be switching over to Petronas Syntium for my next oil change.
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post May 1 2020, 10:54 AM

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I just bought this Petronas Syntium 3000 SE Fully Synthetic oil to try out.

Plan to change it when I am free. Hope this is good stuff.

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post May 2 2020, 03:28 PM

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QUOTE(zeng @ May 2 2020, 02:07 PM)
According to this 2016 data sheet :

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This SE has a TBN of 7.2 .

Based on its claimed SN spec, it is a bit low'ish . But ....................

Could it be a ACEA C2 mid-SaPS oil ?
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I duno wor.. Just want to test this engine oil out. tongue.gif
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post May 9 2020, 11:12 AM

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Out of curiosity, I weigh and compared the engine oil bottle with it's content.

Nissan 5W30 Fully Synthetic bought @ RM125; vs
Petronas Syntium 3000 SE 5W30 Fully Syntetic bought @ RM145.

The difference in weight is quite obvious with the Petronas oil weighs about 800gram - 1kg more. Could it be more additives are added into the Petronas oil?

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post Dec 30 2020, 05:03 PM

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QUOTE(OvenBaked @ Dec 30 2020, 04:48 PM)
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engine - campro vvt
odometer - 84k
engine oil mileage - 4k
engine oil - Mobil1 Super 2000 10w40

hi bro zeng, can you help me on this? engine just running 20k after rebuild and retune(standalone management)

my concern now is my engine oil turn darker fairly quickly, even before rebuild, notice this problem after installed standalone management, tune related maybe? i change my oil every month now, been trying urania 3000ls hdeo, syntium 800 10w40, problem still persist, oil turn very dark even after 1.5k running

no smoke or whatever on the exhaust
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Could it be your engine is running rich on fuel?
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post Dec 30 2020, 05:34 PM

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QUOTE(OvenBaked @ Dec 30 2020, 05:28 PM)
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Might be, here my spark plug, too rich on idle?
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I see your engine is running too rich from the dark build up around the spark plug.

Try to reduce the fuel delivery into the combustion camber a little and see whether there is improvement.
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post Feb 1 2021, 09:40 AM

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QUOTE(jin^manusia @ Feb 1 2021, 03:11 AM)
Hi Zeng

got some off topic question,

i do have old honda city idsi, clocking 310k mile

i need ur suggestion, what kind of oil should i be using ?

or sticking to 5w-30 ? or upgrade to 5w-40 thicker?

any kind of oil recomandation ? what brand 

maybe u can suggest top 3 oil brand for us with high mileage car

much appreciated
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If your engine is not consuming oil, you can stick with 5W30.. If it has oil consumption issue, then you should go a notch up and use 5W40.
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post Feb 14 2021, 06:48 PM

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QUOTE(jin^manusia @ Feb 14 2021, 12:21 PM)
Tq for the answer above, zeng and thrust

really appreciate what oil should i used..
gonna stick to fully i think ..
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This is my blotter.. 24 hours
2k mileage since oil change
5w30 petronas syntium 3000 se fully
car mileage 303 600
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How much you bought your Syntium 3000 SE?

I recently bought the Syntium 3000 5W30 from Paulhew for the price of only RM119.
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post Feb 14 2021, 07:25 PM

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QUOTE(jin^manusia @ Feb 14 2021, 07:13 PM)
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From jpcauto.. donno ori or not.. but seem the seller all oil he sell kinda sold out..
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thumbsup.gif Quite a good bargain wor!
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post Feb 15 2021, 01:36 PM

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QUOTE(zeng @ Feb 15 2021, 01:05 PM)
If this oil from Paulhew has FR  (meaning with Ford Renault Approvals), which I think is likely , then it has higher specification requirement than Jin's basic API SN specs oil .
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Nope, the Syntium 3000 and also the 3000SE are basically identical blend which is of lower specification that the FR.

But I think the 3000 is sufficient for my car's usage (Honda City).
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post Mar 5 2021, 10:41 AM

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QUOTE(La2yboy @ Mar 5 2021, 09:00 AM)
Honda City GM2 year 2009
Current Odo : 139,832km
Date: 03/03/2021
Blotter time : 8:00pm (picture after 36hrs)
oil age : 2,243km
Engine oil used : Aisin Engine Oil Fully Synthetic with Pao + Ester SN/CF 5W30 (4L)

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After 2,243 km, the oil still looking great. How much is this Aisin FS oil?
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post Jun 5 2021, 07:57 AM

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Between the Shell HX8 X 5W-30 vs the Petronas Syntium 3000 5W-30, which one is actually better?

I have bought these 2 engine oil before.. The Shell was used in a Myvi. Noted it's clear colour engine oil which looks really clean and pure.

Syntium on the other hand was used in a Honda. Looks like your regular gold dyed engine oil,

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