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 Car Tint Advise Needed, RayTech, VKool, Huper Optic, 3M or .....

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post Oct 11 2013, 09:45 AM

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QUOTE(lonely143 @ Oct 9 2013, 06:52 PM)
Can but it will cause warranty void
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U mean car tint warranty?
hmmm.. ok. but will it generally damage the initial tint?
tybsiew
post Oct 11 2013, 01:51 PM

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Wanna ask...
If u let the SA to tint for u and they say will give u for example vkool/3M/HO specific spec I.e vkool elite.. HO sec60 etc..
How will you know they tinted the real spec as promised? Just have to trust them?

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post Oct 12 2013, 04:22 PM

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QUOTE(tybsiew @ Oct 11 2013, 01:51 PM)
Wanna ask...
If u let the SA to tint for u and they say will give u for example vkool/3M/HO specific spec I.e vkool elite.. HO sec60 etc..
How will you know they tinted the real spec as promised? Just have to trust them?
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Sometimes SA is very tricky
You should ask them what is the brand, go around to survey
the particular price and product given by the SA.

Check your cash bill and warranty card as well.
Lord Gitsy
post Oct 12 2013, 08:40 PM

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QUOTE(tybsiew @ Oct 11 2013, 01:51 PM)
Wanna ask...
If u let the SA to tint for u and they say will give u for example vkool/3M/HO specific spec I.e vkool elite.. HO sec60 etc..
How will you know they tinted the real spec as promised? Just have to trust them?
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Bro, actually this is the main problem for all customer. SA may say is A product, but maybe they fix the B product for you for the same brand. So you do not know which is which. And some tinting shop maybe swap product also in order to make more profit. I am sick to see this thing, actually.

But I know how is Raytech Window Film work on this issue. This is good for everybody to know also.



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tybsiew
post Oct 12 2013, 09:45 PM

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Thks for the info

But there's a loophole oso
Dealer can keep those extra sticker and stick it when needed. Meaning those who actually tinted high end tint and the left over sticker keep for next "lower end" tint

This can happen oso rite?
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post Oct 12 2013, 10:14 PM

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QUOTE(tybsiew @ Oct 12 2013, 09:45 PM)
Lord Gitsy

Thks for the info

But there's a loophole oso
Dealer can keep those extra sticker and stick it when needed. Meaning those who actually tinted high end tint and the left over sticker keep for next "lower end" tint

This can happen oso rite?
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I rather the sa give me the voucher n watching by myself the installation than rely on the sa..
cz the tinting shop will give u a demo & explanation about the tints...
Lord Gitsy
post Oct 12 2013, 10:38 PM

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QUOTE(tybsiew @ Oct 12 2013, 09:45 PM)
Lord Gitsy

Thks for the info

But there's a loophole oso
Dealer can keep those extra sticker and stick it when needed. Meaning those who actually tinted high end tint and the left over sticker keep for next "lower end" tint

This can happen oso rite?
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I agreed. Somehow according to Raytech message. Only limited stickers of each roll of film. This is how they control and avoid the misuse of "house-brand" for their dealers.
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post Oct 13 2013, 10:39 AM

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Education Material of IWFA (International Window Film Association)

1. Infra-Red (IR) rejection not accurate to describe solar heat control of window film product.
2. IR only contribute 54% of Total Solar Energy Rejection.
3. SHGC (Solar Heat Gain Coefficient is more comprehensive to solar control performance.
4. It Is misleading to consumer if Manufacturer refer to IR rejection instead of SHGC.


Link to the articles of IWFA : Solar Control Performance Writen by AIMCAL in IWFA

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This post has been edited by Lord Gitsy: Oct 13 2013, 10:40 AM
yaz_inseven
post Oct 13 2013, 12:14 PM

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QUOTE(Lord Gitsy @ Oct 12 2013, 10:38 PM)
I agreed. Somehow according to Raytech message. Only limited stickers of each roll of film. This is how they control and avoid the misuse of "house-brand" for their dealers.
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Are you raytech dealer?if u are,
Just want to know..why v90 specifications not stated in thr website?
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post Oct 13 2013, 10:28 PM

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QUOTE(yaz_inseven @ Oct 13 2013, 12:14 PM)
Are you raytech dealer?if u are,
Just want to know..why v90 specifications not stated in thr website?
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Hi bro, I am Raytech Tint Consultant, previously is one of Raytech film's customer, and now my post is "Everything" in this forum, including answer inquiry, handle customer problem, technical issue, education stuff, posting etc. I report direct to Raytech Marketing Team.

For you answer, I think it is good you visit my thread to get latest Raytech product List. The latest solar control film called "Raytech V97" and "Raytech Ultra 70". thumbup.gif
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post Oct 13 2013, 11:43 PM

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Hello Everyone~
Please PM me for advise smile.gif
Preferable brand: Any famous brand instead of HOME brand
Car: Persona (Metallic)
Location: Penang / Butterworth / KL
Budget: between RM700 & RM1000
Requirement: security film & 4mil

I always park car under sun throughout working hours at unsafe place
albertcks1988
post Oct 13 2013, 11:57 PM

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any1 heard of top tintz from bayan lepas penang? SA gave me a 4 mil tint from that shop with 70% IRR. should i take it or change to agard or ais kool better??

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what is the recommendation for dugong tinting ? It is a 2011 2nd hand vios.


budget: under Rm1.6k
Requirement:
1.Solar film on front(GPS smart targ friendly) and rear windscreen
2.Solar + Security film on side windscreen
3. I prefer darker film but I need it to be safe from SAMAN, trouble free with JPJ people, how dark(in%) we can get ?

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post Oct 14 2013, 08:15 AM

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QUOTE(linkinawe @ Oct 14 2013, 12:29 AM)
what is the recommendation for dugong tinting ? It is a 2011 2nd hand vios.
budget: under Rm1.6k
Requirement:
1.Solar film on front(GPS smart targ friendly) and rear windscreen
2.Solar + Security film on side windscreen
3. I prefer darker film but I need it to be safe from SAMAN, trouble free with JPJ people, how dark(in%) we can get ?
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Recommendation for tinting is dependent on the choice of brands available in the market. Almost all come with solar and security films. As for GPS and smart tag friendly films, some are compliant while some are not so compliant. So far I know Huper Optik is GPS and Smart tag friendly. Others not so sure. Other popular brands include V-kool, 3M, Raytech and Sahara.

As for your point no. 3, this question on "how dark can we get" to be safe, this depends on the level of expectations as everyone's expectations are not similar. Theoretically VLT50% is the permissible limit for side and rear windscreen but many people have VLT40% on these windscreens as they still don't look too dark. Some people have VLT30% films on the sides and rear and feel they are not too dark either, while others may regard VLT30% as too dark. Some people even have VLT below 30% which is certainly too dark already.

In my opinion, if you want to play safe just stick with VLT70% and above for front windscreen and VLT50% and above for side windscreens. If you want darker, you can still choose VLT60% and above for front and VLT40% and above for sides and back. Anything below these figures for VLT and the chance of you getting into trouble will be higher, not recommended actually. Having said that there will still be people who would be willing to take the risk though.
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post Oct 14 2013, 03:01 PM

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QUOTE(Dwango @ Oct 14 2013, 08:15 AM)
Recommendation for tinting is dependent on the choice of brands available in the market. Almost all come with solar and security films. As for GPS and smart tag friendly films, some are compliant while some are not so compliant. So far I know Huper Optik is GPS and Smart tag friendly. Others not so sure. Other popular brands include V-kool, 3M, Raytech and Sahara.

As for your point no. 3, this question on "how dark can we get" to be safe, this depends on the level of expectations as everyone's expectations are not similar. Theoretically VLT50% is the permissible limit for side and rear windscreen but many people have VLT40% on these windscreens as they still don't look too dark. Some people have VLT30% films on the sides and rear and feel they are not too dark either, while others may regard VLT30% as too dark. Some people even have VLT below 30% which is certainly too dark already.

In my opinion, if you want to play safe just stick with VLT70% and above for front windscreen and VLT50% and above for side windscreens. If you want darker, you can still choose VLT60% and above for front and VLT40% and above for sides and back. Anything below these figures for VLT and the chance of you getting into trouble will be higher, not recommended actually. Having said that there will still be people who would be willing to take the risk though.
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brand wise , with this budget of 1.6k , able to get Huper/V-kool ?
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post Oct 14 2013, 03:02 PM

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QUOTE(Lord Gitsy @ Oct 13 2013, 10:28 PM)
Hi bro, I am Raytech Tint Consultant, previously is one of Raytech film's customer, and now my post is "Everything" in this forum, including answer inquiry, handle customer problem, technical issue, education stuff, posting etc.  I report direct to Raytech Marketing Team.

For you answer, I think it is good you visit my thread to get latest Raytech product List. The latest solar control film called "Raytech V97" and "Raytech Ultra 70".  thumbup.gif
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So V90 is old stock?...
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post Oct 14 2013, 03:19 PM

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QUOTE(linkinawe @ Oct 14 2013, 03:01 PM)
brand wise , with this budget of 1.6k , able to get Huper/V-kool ?
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Yes you can. There are many range of films for both Huper and V-kool, so you may inquire.

There is a V-kool seller here "Lonely.. something". You can search the thread here several pages back. You may ask him to quote. I have used V-kool before and it can work with SmartTag but GPS signal is weak. Depends on the type or range of film though.


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post Oct 14 2013, 06:46 PM

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QUOTE(linkinawe @ Oct 14 2013, 03:01 PM)
brand wise , with this budget of 1.6k , able to get Huper/V-kool ?
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Can , pls PM with your model and requirement -)
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post Oct 14 2013, 07:08 PM

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Hi guys, I just edit and change my thread from Post 1 to 5. If you guys really want to know everything about window film and safety film. Please visit my thread and read all 5 articles. You will be very expect in window film and know how to choose a good window film brand in market. Of course, not Raytech Window Film only. Others is good also. I just provide the guideline to everybody know how to do survey in right way.

Not just looking for the highest IRR, and Lowest Price! I am sure you will get cheated easily. shakehead.gif

I hope it helps you guys a lot. cool2.gif
Here is the Link : Thread of Raytech Tint Consultant

Post 1 : About Raytech International Window film.
Post 2 : How to Choose a Good Quality USA Brand and Right Product.
Post 3 : About Safety Film (Not all thick film is safety film.)
Part 4 : Education Material of IWFA
Part 5 : What is Raytech Authorized Warranty Card.

This is education material.

This post has been edited by Lord Gitsy: Oct 14 2013, 09:45 PM
albertcks1988
post Oct 15 2013, 12:11 AM

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any1 heard of top tintz from bayan lepas penang? SA gave me a 4 mil tint from that shop with 70% IRR. should i take it or change to agard or ais kool better??


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