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post Aug 10 2007, 10:30 PM

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Ah... it's 'addicted'...
About the hissing sound, I think some of us here knows how to solve it. Putting a resistor or what...

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post Aug 10 2007, 10:48 PM

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no wonder i feel quite weird...haha..poor english..i edit it now.
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post Aug 11 2007, 05:00 PM

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Hello all.

This is my first post and i'm thinking of getting mylarone or mylarthree.

Between the two of them, which one is more accurate or analytical? Which one is more true?

I am using it for clinical purpose.

Thank you.
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post Aug 11 2007, 05:05 PM

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QUOTE(am3 @ Aug 11 2007, 05:00 PM)
Hello all.

This is my first post and i'm thinking of getting mylarone or mylarthree.

Between the two of them, which one is more accurate or analytical? Which one is more true?

I am using it for clinical purpose.

Thank you.
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more accurate..i dont get ur meaning...??
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post Aug 11 2007, 06:11 PM

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QUOTE(walabies @ Aug 10 2007, 10:30 PM)
Ah... it's 'addicted'...
About the hissing sound, I think some of us here knows how to solve it. Putting a resistor or what...
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wah..need to DIY resistor somemore...
hmm..wait until some of the sifu here show me the correct way :-)
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post Aug 11 2007, 07:51 PM

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actually noise is not caused by the earphone itself.
it's the player emitted noise, while the earphone is sensitive enough to pick it up.
which usually low impedance earphone has this kind of trouble for being over sensitive.
if you pair the earphone with some DAP which is good enough, (example , Zen Micro, Zune) it won't hiss as the player doesn't produce hiss.

anyway,to slove it, as walabies said, we can add up the impedance (resistor) of the specific earphone, by adding some value (usually 15-100ohm) of resistor in series configuration to the earphone signal cable. or make a adapter like picture below so that you doesn't have to operate the earphone itself which operating it will void the warrenty. and adapter is better because you can use it for any other earphone too.
* note : do make sure to hand match the resistor to exact value (as close as possible you can get), because even as small as 0.1 ohm will have chances to make the earphone sound imbalance on volume for both side.

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post Aug 11 2007, 08:05 PM

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QUOTE(yuheng @ Aug 11 2007, 05:05 PM)
bro...pls add me msn xiao_ma16@hotmail.com
more accurate..i dont get ur meaning...??
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I don't have msn mail. only got yahoo.

I mean that the iem gives sound that is accurate to the original recording. meaning no coloration, or excessive here and there. i think sony's earphone is not accurate, it distort the original sound, make it more boomy, and the music will sound different than studio recording.

I want a more analytical sound. No distortion so that i can hear the recording as it is recorded. distortion or excessive equalizing might gives a more pleasant sound but it could be distorted....

So i want it to sound like it was recorded in the studio, with no addition and distortion.

hope i make myself clear... hmm.gif

reading this forum just want me to get it these baby more and more... drool.gif


I want to know if the mylarone or mylarthree produce more accurate sound. mylarthree is better built, right? but if mylarone is more true or accurate, i might get this one instead.


Added on August 11, 2007, 8:08 pmanother thing,

what is the claimed frequency response of mylarone and mylarthree?

Also is the build quality good? The cable is okay?


Added on August 11, 2007, 8:12 pmwhich one is better for classical, or symphony?

This post has been edited by am3: Aug 11 2007, 08:12 PM
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post Aug 11 2007, 09:33 PM

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QUOTE(PcWork @ Aug 11 2007, 07:51 PM)
.....or make a adapter like picture below so that you doesn't have to operate the earphone itself which operating it will void the warrenty. ...
PcWork, can get me one of those? hmm.gif

QUOTE(am3 @ Aug 11 2007, 08:05 PM)
I mean that the iem gives sound that is accurate to the original recording. meaning no coloration, or excessive here and there. i think sony's earphone is not accurate, it distort the original sound, make it more boomy, and the music will sound different than studio recording.

I want a more analytical sound. No distortion so that i can hear the recording as it is recorded. distortion or excessive equalizing might gives a more pleasant sound but it could be distorted....

So i want it to sound like it was recorded in the studio, with no addition and distortion.

hope i make myself clear...  hmm.gif
What you need is a pair Etymotics smile.gif
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post Aug 11 2007, 10:47 PM

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QUOTE(am3 @ Aug 11 2007, 08:05 PM)
I don't have msn mail. only got yahoo.

I mean that the iem gives sound that is accurate to the original recording. meaning no coloration, or excessive here and there. i think sony's earphone is not accurate, it distort the original sound, make it more boomy, and the music will sound different than studio recording.

I want a more analytical sound. No distortion so that i can hear the recording as it is recorded. distortion or excessive equalizing might gives a more pleasant sound but it could be distorted....

So i want it to sound like it was recorded in the studio, with no addition and distortion.

hope i make myself clear...  hmm.gif

reading this forum just want me to get it these baby more and more...  drool.gif
I want to know if the mylarone or mylarthree produce more accurate sound. mylarthree is better built, right? but if mylarone is more true or accurate, i might get this one instead.


Added on August 11, 2007, 8:08 pmanother thing,

what is the claimed frequency response of mylarone and mylarthree?

Also is the build quality good? The cable is okay?


Added on August 11, 2007, 8:12 pmwhich one is better for classical, or symphony?
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I've tried the mylar3, honestly, I prefer how the mylar2 sounded. But if what you want is analytic ( aka boring sound to me tongue.gif ) the m3 might serve your purpose well. But then...you might want the im716? The disadvantage is that they needed to be amp
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post Aug 11 2007, 11:41 PM

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QUOTE(naruto_kun @ Aug 11 2007, 10:47 PM)
I've tried the mylar3, honestly, I prefer how the mylar2 sounded. But if what you want is analytic ( aka boring sound to me tongue.gif ) the m3 might serve your purpose well. But then...you might want the im716? The disadvantage is that they needed to be amp
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biggrin.gif Haha... yes I do want boring sound. I don't want to carry an amp around though. so no im716...
it's more expensive, right. and you have to buy an amp for it. smile.gif

and of course not mylar2 as i read here it's too fun and bass heavy... tongue.gif


Added on August 11, 2007, 11:45 pm
QUOTE(grandspy @ Aug 11 2007, 09:33 PM)
PcWork, can get me one of those?  hmm.gif
What you need is a pair Etymotics  smile.gif
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I'd like etymotics but it cost much more, right?

How much for a decent pair?


So need to have a trade off... tongue.gif

I guess mylarthree have more details... is that true?

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post Aug 11 2007, 11:56 PM

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You shouldn't be looking in this thread if you want analytical sound. Maybe you should try the Etymotic ER6i (less than RM400).
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post Aug 12 2007, 12:39 AM

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QUOTE(yrh0413 @ Aug 11 2007, 11:56 PM)
You shouldn't be looking in this thread if you want analytical sound. Maybe you should try the Etymotic ER6i (less than RM400).
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where to get one?

I'm not sure I am that stage yet that I want to spend 400 for iem...

never wear one, not sure if i'm okay with it...

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get from http://www.discountheadphones.com. Free worldwide shipping smile.gif
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QUOTE(yrh0413 @ Aug 12 2007, 12:43 AM)
get from http://www.discountheadphones.com. Free worldwide shipping smile.gif
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do these things need amps?

I don't want to carry an amps around...

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post Aug 12 2007, 12:49 AM

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QUOTE(am3 @ Aug 12 2007, 12:45 AM)
do these things need amps?

I don't want to carry an amps around...
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If you don't want to, you have to be statisfied with the m3 tongue.gif
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QUOTE(naruto_kun @ Aug 12 2007, 12:49 AM)
If you don't want to, you have to be statisfied with the m3 tongue.gif
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Yeah...

maybe i have to go mylarthree... laugh.gif
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QUOTE(am3 @ Aug 12 2007, 12:45 AM)
do these things need amps?

I don't want to carry an amps around...
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what's your source? The er6i can be powered by an Ipod without an amp.
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post Aug 12 2007, 02:16 AM

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QUOTE(am3 @ Aug 11 2007, 05:00 PM)
Hello all.

This is my first post and i'm thinking of getting mylarone or mylarthree.

Between the two of them, which one is more accurate or analytical? Which one is more true?

I am using it for clinical purpose.

Thank you.
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If you are looking forward to use a powerful amp, get mylarone xb, good amping capabilities.

QUOTE(am3 @ Aug 11 2007, 08:05 PM)
I don't have msn mail. only got yahoo.

I mean that the iem gives sound that is accurate to the original recording. meaning no coloration, or excessive here and there. i think sony's earphone is not accurate, it distort the original sound, make it more boomy, and the music will sound different than studio recording.

I want a more analytical sound. No distortion so that i can hear the recording as it is recorded. distortion or excessive equalizing might gives a more pleasant sound but it could be distorted....

So i want it to sound like it was recorded in the studio, with no addition and distortion.

hope i make myself clear...  hmm.gif

reading this forum just want me to get it these baby more and more...  drool.gif
I want to know if the mylarone or mylarthree produce more accurate sound. mylarthree is better built, right? but if mylarone is more true or accurate, i might get this one instead.


Added on August 11, 2007, 8:08 pmanother thing,

what is the claimed frequency response of mylarone and mylarthree?

Also is the build quality good? The cable is okay?


Added on August 11, 2007, 8:12 pmwhich one is better for classical, or symphony?
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The frequency response is 20~20kmhz. But then I need to confirm again.
Again, IMHO mylar2 is better for classical.

QUOTE(am3 @ Aug 12 2007, 12:57 AM)
Yeah...

maybe i have to go mylarthree... laugh.gif
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You have another options here dude.
Get the yuins.
PK1, 2, 3 tailored to your budget. (Suggest a PK2 smile.gif )

This post has been edited by walabies: Aug 12 2007, 02:17 AM
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QUOTE(am3 @ Aug 12 2007, 12:57 AM)
Yeah...

maybe i have to go mylarthree... laugh.gif
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yeah,u should not miss pk1 or pk2 as well..bty...i reply ur pm.
but i would more than happy to introduce u for im716 as well..the sound is 95% of er4, who bother to have er6.. biggrin.gif , with the price of RM400, u can get the quality of er4.... brows.gif
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QUOTE(yuheng @ Aug 12 2007, 11:09 AM)
yeah,u should not miss pk1 or pk2 as well..bty...i reply ur pm.
but i would more than happy to introduce u for im716 as well..the sound is 95% of er4, who bother to have er6.. biggrin.gif , with the price of RM400, u can get the quality of er4.... brows.gif
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yup if anyone likes a more analytical detailed sound then the ER4/iM716 is the way to go esp. in IEMs. IMO the iM716 is NOT inferior to the ER4, more a case of a slightly different presentation. ER4s has a slight extended upper range but is leaner overall while iM716 holds the upper hand in having fuller bottom and mids IMO. but they both share far more similarities than differences. FWIW, i canceled my ER4 order becoz im totally happy with my mod iM716.

Yuin PK series is another thing but based on all that i've read, they fall more into the "musical" category rather than "analytical". musical generally means warm, fuller and more balanced in range.

i believe the mylars 2 and 3 will be similiar to the YUINs and fall into the musical category. based on my personal impressions, the M2 is much warmer (bassier) unless amped synergistically while the M3 is quite nice even unamped. FWIW even with my newly acquired audio preferences, the M3 via my 1st gen shuffle makes good music and is now my ultra portable rig nod.gif thumbup.gif .

another issue to be aware of is the question of comfort. true IEMs like ER4/iM716 can be b**** to fit and have been known to cause abit of discomfit for some folks. M2/M3 fit and SQ depends largely on the correct size tips for one's ears. Yuins PKs are just normal earbuds and thus should be supremely comfortable with the downside of non existing sound isolation. bottomline - theres no perfection. u pays your money u's takes your risks! whistling.gif rolleyes.gif laugh.gif

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