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 Multiple Signs of Malaysia Property Bubble V20

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post Jan 7 2017, 11:01 AM

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I believe in buying and holding long term for good location properties and then get rental income while holding long term.... is this consider uuu?

For properties in good location... i don't see the price DVD... i have been stressing on this keyword = location, but usually people like to generalize and say property downtrend now... AFAIK... prime or good location area the price hardly go down... probably stay flat in bad times only.... but over long term... it is up trend....

QUOTE(kurtkob78 @ Jan 7 2017, 10:46 AM)
Why no downward? R u uuu?
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post Jan 7 2017, 11:12 AM

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QUOTE(kevyeoh @ Jan 7 2017, 11:01 AM)
I believe in buying and holding long term for good location properties and then get rental income while holding long term.... is this consider uuu?

For properties in good location... i don't see the price DVD... i have been stressing on this keyword = location, but usually people like to generalize and say property downtrend now... AFAIK... prime or good location area the price hardly go down... probably stay flat in bad times only.... but over long term... it is up trend....
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Prime locations held by reits e.g. klcc, pavilion, mv, sunway pyramid, etc are unlikely to sell, won't see price drop. To use this as a benchmark is detached from the general market.

On residential property, believe there isn't a consensus that which area or development is super prime and will immune to any price downfall. And most people purchase are not super prime.

Historically, property price rise in the long term but at about inflation rate. Due to oversupply in kv, unless there is a change in market sentiment, price is likely continue to downtrend and falling behind inflation rate.

This post has been edited by icemanfx: Jan 7 2017, 08:01 PM
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post Jan 9 2017, 02:10 PM

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Im looking at bungalow lot now..and the price is kinda stubborn..not to mention procedures can make you dizzy too πŸ€•πŸ€•πŸ€•
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post Jan 10 2017, 11:18 PM

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QUOTE(kevyeoh @ Jan 7 2017, 11:01 AM)
I believe in buying and holding long term for good location properties and then get rental income while holding long term.... is this consider uuu?

For properties in good location... i don't see the price DVD... i have been stressing on this keyword = location, but usually people like to generalize and say property downtrend now... AFAIK... prime or good location area the price hardly go down... probably stay flat in bad times only.... but over long term... it is up trend....
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Everything is based on generalisation la, property downward trend means that properties in most areas prices are falling just the same like stocks market la, it's a bear cycle when most stock prices go down. There will NEVER be a scenario where ALL properties or stocks go down, even in the worse kinda market some stocks will still perform well or maintain their prices, just like properties.

If follow your definition, then there is no such thing as a downward trend for anything la.

Even now, some prime locations like BB, DAMANSARA already got property prices dropping la, maybe not as significant as other sub prime areas but even prime properties are dropping, so still wanna say no downward trend? The only difference is that PRIME areas drop slower and lesser, but it's still a drop even if drop only by 5%, it's still a drop. Let's not deny that.


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post Jan 13 2017, 04:29 PM

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Wow... 86% urban household with no savings ? It is like almost 9 out of every 10 households don't have savings... really curious if this is indeed true !

QUOTE(podracerx1 @ Jan 13 2017, 02:46 PM)
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http://www.malaysiandigest.com/frontpage/2...ne-of-them.html

If the above is accurate or close, few have reserve at flexi account.
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post Jan 13 2017, 04:38 PM

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so 1k can be saving too then gg
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post Jan 13 2017, 04:54 PM

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QUOTE(podracerx1 @ Jan 13 2017, 02:46 PM)
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http://www.malaysiandigest.com/frontpage/2...ne-of-them.html

If the above is accurate or close, few have reserve at flexi account.
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Thats stats for 2013?
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post Jan 15 2017, 05:11 PM

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QUOTE(kenlaw72 @ Jan 13 2017, 05:52 PM)
hear form developer, they already get the tenants.
they give free rentalΒ  one years to potential shop tenants which open at 3rd avenue.
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CBJ is so vibrant that commie rental could be free for one year.

QUOTE(Donald Trump @ Jan 13 2017, 09:23 PM)
it was 100% empty after more than a year
AT LAST 1 shop doing reno....πŸŽ‰πŸŽ‚
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[=Donald Trump,Jan 13 2017, 10:50 PM]
Soli correction.....my pucat friend say this is not shop renovating....is actually TLG MS use to store their crap😌......my bad
so is still maintain 100% NOT OCCUPY for more than a year and counting
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Icon city is said to be mv in the making.

QUOTE(Quang1819 @ Jan 13 2017, 11:33 PM)
worked there for a year couple months back. more shops are closing down in the mall and the shoplots outside the mall as well. heard that my old working would be shifting as well lol
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[=Quang1819,Jan 13 2017, 11:35 PM]
but most of them are known brands like Oldtown, Subway and a few more. Those that aren't well known all closed down
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Another uuu

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post Jan 15 2017, 06:09 PM

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Believe this is only the beginning and will increase with npl.


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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Jan 15 2017, 05:11 PM)
Icon city is said to be mv in the making.
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I doubt it. KL are just flooded with too many malls

But they claim to be a food hub lol
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post Jan 16 2017, 12:16 AM

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QUOTE(ManutdGiggs @ Jan 15 2017, 11:49 PM)
Since when tms is a reliable dev???

It's quite a norm for buyers to b conned by tns. Nothin new I guess. It ll b headline if it's not a con job.

Now all eyes r on sg buluh.
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It seems many of uuu/bbb herd has boarded the thief boat to holland.

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post Jan 16 2017, 05:37 PM

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According to Napic; average take up rate 9 months after launch is about 55%.

Those claimed 70%, 80% or 85% sold at launch is as real as Robert Kiyosaki's rich dad.

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post Jan 16 2017, 11:14 PM

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QUOTE(cedyy @ Jan 16 2017, 10:59 PM)
yes, oversupply and weakening demand. my client has an outlet on ground floor at Midvalley Garden. tenancy expiring soon and managed to get a reduction in the rental.
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post Jan 17 2017, 06:11 PM

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QUOTE(podracerx1 @ Jan 13 2017, 02:46 PM)
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http://www.malaysiandigest.com/frontpage/2...ne-of-them.html

If the above is accurate or close, few have reserve at flexi account.
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If this is accurate, Indians are the richest community in this countryy. Why such racist statistics though? tongue.gif

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post Jan 17 2017, 06:14 PM

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QUOTE(scorptim @ Jan 10 2017, 11:18 PM)
Everything is based on generalisation la, property downward trend means that properties in most areas prices are falling just the same like stocks market la, it's a bear cycle when most stock prices go down. There will NEVER be a scenario where ALL properties or stocks go down, even in the worse kinda market some stocks will still perform well or maintain their prices, just like properties.

If follow your definition, then there is no such thing as a downward trend for anything la.

Even now, some prime locations like BB, DAMANSARA already got property prices dropping la, maybe not as significant as other sub prime areas but even prime properties are dropping, so still wanna say no downward trend? The only difference is that PRIME areas drop slower and lesser, but it's still a drop even if drop only by 5%, it's still a drop. Let's not deny that.
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From 2007 until now..it up by 100%. 5% drop tis year...still consider drop??
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post Jan 17 2017, 06:22 PM

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QUOTE(podracerx1 @ Jan 13 2017, 02:46 PM)
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http://www.malaysiandigest.com/frontpage/2...ne-of-them.html

If the above is accurate or close, few have reserve at flexi account.
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Cukur Ayam is one of the 10% in the bucket
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post Jan 17 2017, 06:29 PM

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QUOTE(podracerx1 @ Jan 17 2017, 06:22 PM)
Double in 10 years is about 7% p.a compounded.

Why not compare with price in 1997?
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I can compare even from 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014 and 2015. The tend is up but a little downward u guys were super happy till forgot how much u realli lost bcoz kept waiting...
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QUOTE(party @ Jan 17 2017, 06:14 PM)
From 2007 until now..it up by 100%. 5% drop tis year...still consider drop??
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Of course it's considered a drop, if not then you apply the same concept to everything lo, then everything in this world also no drop la like that.

You go to a shop eat fried noodles, yesterday they charge you 6.50, today it's RM6, you don't consider drop is it? Because 10 years ago it was only RM 3.

Follow that mindset then EVERYTHING in this world never drop always UUU lo.

You buy stock at RM 10 last year, this year become RM 9, but when the stock was first listed it was only RM 1. So, to you the stock drop or didn't drop?
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QUOTE(party @ Jan 17 2017, 06:14 PM)
From 2007 until now..it up by 100%. 5% drop tis year...still consider drop??
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prop baught in 2015 or later either experience price drop or dont appreciate much.

thats why so low prop sales volume now. because its riskier to buy now. cannot flip anymore. so many flippers stuck.

its not recovering in the near future.

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post Jan 17 2017, 08:24 PM

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QUOTE(party @ Jan 17 2017, 06:29 PM)
I can compare even from 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014 and 2015. The tend is up but a little downward u guys were super happy till forgot how much u realli lost bcoz kept waiting...
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After considered loan interest element, you will find your assumption is not as rosy as you thought. Beside bank interest rate is not fixed and likely to rise.

Kv property price rise from 2011 to 2014 was a fallout of u.s qe. Believe we have yet to see the aftershocks of tapering.

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