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Multiple Signs of Malaysia Property Bubble V20
Multiple Signs of Malaysia Property Bubble V20
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Dec 23 2016, 04:58 PM
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DDD!
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Dec 23 2016, 07:22 PM
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Omg!!! ..just found out my fren condo is up for an auction from browsing the auction site π±π±π±π±π±π±π±π±π±π±π±π±π±π±π±π±π±π±π±π±π±π±π±π±π±π±π±π±π±π±π±π±π±π±
So shocking! |
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Dec 23 2016, 07:59 PM
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Dec 24 2016, 11:08 AM
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Dec 30 2016, 01:34 PM
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QUOTE(prody @ Dec 30 2016, 12:49 PM) I had the same shock a while ago, when I noticed a house on auction in my neighborhood. After checking it was very close to my own house. Then after a while I noticed they started removing everything they possibly could from the house. Omg! π±π±π± Must be traumatising especially if it is for families! |
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Jan 3 2017, 10:28 AM
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So any bargain to be made in property yet? I was busy shopping at Zara to get items at 50% off πππ
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Jan 9 2017, 02:10 PM
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Im looking at bungalow lot now..and the price is kinda stubborn..not to mention procedures can make you dizzy too π€π€π€
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Jan 26 2017, 10:23 AM
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QUOTE(estcin @ Jan 19 2017, 12:22 PM) Wow lots of hi-end units but there were some within the affordable range also. Quite surprised to see Riana in the mix too. |
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Feb 7 2017, 12:04 PM
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Feb 22 2017, 08:07 PM
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Discounts on the retail sectors seemed to continue on! Been busy looking at discounted items! π
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Mar 14 2017, 07:41 PM
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Oh oh!
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Mar 16 2017, 06:31 PM
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Mar 19 2017, 08:23 AM
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QUOTE(wendy771782 @ Mar 17 2017, 03:20 PM) deloverper leave higher floor wanna sold fast for.go for future plan gua... but i bought last year pay for almost one year interest... buy now more good.. atleast no.need pay for interest edi. for the rebate before.spa bot tht high la.. some rebate is with t&c Omg! π² |
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Mar 24 2017, 01:31 PM
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BBB would keep on BBBπππ
QUOTE(icemanfx @ Mar 22 2017, 11:49 PM) Buying a RM500,000 property? Better to rent, says expert Robin Augustin | March 22, 2017 PETALING JAYA: Thinking of buying a RM500,000 house? A veteran property expert said for that amount of money, renting might be a more viable option given the price of properties and the rising cost of living. βThere is no shame in renting,β Ernest Cheong told FMT in a recent interview. βPeople often say, βIf I rent a house, for the next 30 years I will only enrich the landlord and after 30 years I wonβt own a homeβ.β Cheong said this was only true if a person could afford the monthly instalments for 30 years. But even then, Cheong said, given the inflated price of properties and the rising cost of living, people looking to own a home shouldnβt rush into owning one because, in the future, they might have other needs such as their childrenβs education or medical expenses. βLetβs look at a RM500,000 property as an example. Say, for that price, it is a 1,000 square feet apartment in Puchong with three bed rooms, with a rental value of RM1,500 a month.β βOne man, Harry, rents it for RM1,500 a month, and his neighbour Sally decides to purchase her unit for RM500,000.β After 30 years, Cheong said, Harry would have paid his landlord a total of RM702,000 assuming that after every three years the rent was increased by RM100 per month. Sally, meanwhile, would have paid RM50,000 for the 10% deposit required and taken a RM450,000 bank loan to pay the balance 90% of the purchase price. βShe would also have to pay around RM40,000 in stamp duty and legal fees.β With a 30 year loan, Cheong said, Sallyβs monthly repayment to the bank would be around RM2,734 per month. βIn 30 years, Sally would have paid the bank a total of RM984,240 (RM2,734 x 360 months) and plus the 10% (RM50,000) deposit and RM40,000 legal fees and stamp duty, she would have paid a grand total of RM1,074,240 for her apartment.β Cheong, a chartered surveyor, said over the period of 30 years, the value of both properties might increase three-fold, but this might only be on paper. βIn reality, we are now seeing an oversupply of residential units and with the rising cost of living, can many people say with confidence that they can afford a bank loan repayment of over RM2,734 a month for 30 years? Or that the value of properties will go up as planned?β In recent times, Cheong noted, it had been reported that EPF figures showed there were 14.5 million working Malaysians in the country, of whom 89% were earning less than RM5,000 a month. Cheong said a lot could happen in 30 years, with children needing to go to college or salaries not rising in tandem with the cost of living. βSo in reality, renting may not be a bad option because it allows you to be flexible. Lose a job or need to raise funds? Move to a cheaper place. If you take a loan, youβre committed for 30 years. Sure, you could sell the place, but are you sure you can get the ideal price given the oversupply of properties nowadays?β Cheong said if people couldnβt afford to repay their bank loan at any time within the 30-year period, they might lose all their money, or even be made bankrupt if they could not sell the property at a price sufficient enough to pay the balance of the loan. This, Cheong said, was why renting a property β rather than buying one β was a viable option which people should consider. http://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/...nt-says-expert/ |
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Mar 28 2017, 07:56 PM
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You can pledge reit? Well thats something new to me. Can you pledge to a local bank? How about local reits? Can you pledge that also? Whats the ratio for pledging like? 1:1?
QUOTE(gark @ Mar 27 2017, 10:58 AM) I dont understand all these UUU and DDD, both also waiting for something that might or might not come. Instead of speculating, I prefer to invest my money in a more sure thing rather than local properties, which currently does not make sense. I prefer investing in foreign REITs, as a proxy for property investment. I can buy properties at up to 30%-40% discount from market, and getting 7%-9% annual dividend annually from rental. I only choose counters which can at least raise their rental annually because of collective bargaining power. You can never get all these with your standard property purchase. Buying local overpriced properties, you be lucky to get 5% discount to market and rental yields of 2.5%... what a foolish investment:lol: If property goes DDD, I am protected with my high yield. If property goes UUU, I enjoy my NTA going up, thus they can buy more property with debt. If RM crash, I am also protected from Forex (I invest in >6 countries) I dont have to worry about tenancy problem, selling, and all the associated headache related with property ownership. The reit itself is already leveraged, but I can pledge my REIT to get loan (rate not much different than housing loan), which I only pay interest, and I can pay off the principal at any amount or one go if i like. Sounds too good to be true? Sounds impossible? It is not. I have been doing this for the past 8 years, and it has done very well for me indeed. To know more head to the stock exchange forum under REIT threads to know more. |
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Apr 12 2017, 08:53 PM
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A lot of developers now are advertising on FB and IG πππ
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Apr 16 2017, 06:44 PM
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Wow! Lots of auction unit.. some appear attractive to me!
I mean you hardly see Maytower auction unit! http://auctions.com.my/pah/list-kl.asp |
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May 2 2017, 10:58 AM
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Wow! So now both value and number of transaction is going down? UUU nightmare??
QUOTE(icemanfx @ Apr 30 2017, 03:08 AM) Compared with the main sub-sectors, the residential sub-sector registered a drop of 13.9% and 10.7% in transaction volume and value last year compared with the previous year, respectively. http://www.theedgeproperty.com.my/content/...rms-market-2016 This was in tandem with the overall market performance for 2016 as property transactions nationwide declined for the second consecutive year with 320,425 transactions worth RM145.51 billion, indicating a 11.5% decrease in volume and 3% dip in total value of transactions from the year before. http://www.theedgeproperty.com.my/content/...ming-areas-2016 Unless market sentiment change, down trend is expected to continue. |
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May 4 2017, 12:19 AM
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Wow! 259k for an auction property sold from around 224k before construction!
http://auctions.com.my/pah/list-details-cu...25288&Key=94008 This post has been edited by axisresidence17: May 4 2017, 12:22 AM |
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May 5 2017, 08:53 AM
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QUOTE(kurtkob78 @ May 4 2017, 02:44 PM) you see the reserve value is not to the nearest thousand. This is not first time went to the auction hall. 259k is quite near to the ori dev price thoughthe previous reserve price should be 288k. If anyone went during the previous auction, confirm will be the winner at 288k. I donno if 288k is good value or not. |
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