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prophetjul
post Jul 28 2025, 09:26 AM

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QUOTE(Phoenix_KL @ Jul 27 2025, 11:01 AM)
A sharp drop that tells it all

To illustrate the gravity of this issue, consider a mixed development in Kota Damansara. Launched in 2016 with an average pricing of RM750 per sq ft (psf), units in this development are now reselling for as low as RM268 psf since their handover in 2020. This represents a staggering plunge of up to 64% in value in one of the Klang Valley’s more prominent and desirable addresses.

How does such a dramatic devaluation occur? The answer lies behind the scenes, obscured by a web of undisclosed rebates, inflated loan approvals and pricing tactics designed to mask the real transaction value. Alarmingly, this is not an isolated incident. This deceptive pattern is increasingly spreading across the broader Malaysian property market, turning a blind eye to genuine market fundamentals.

What initially began as seemingly well-intentioned tools to enhance affordability such as rebates, cashbacks and zero-entry packages have gradually mutated into a pervasive mechanism that profoundly distorts the market. The playbook for this distortion is alarmingly simple yet highly effective:

https://www.starproperty.my/news/malaysia-s...-up-call/132580
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post Jul 28 2025, 10:37 AM

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QUOTE(9m2w @ Jul 28 2025, 09:26 AM)
I remember the sales guy for iirc Empire City selling to me the viablity of the project. Young fella. He said he also bought units there to invest

I hope he was just joking cos that project was cooked.

I still remember they were forcing ppl to take vacant possession when lift lobby also incomplete right some units?
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yes, way back when it was still under the Mammoth Empire group sweat.gif
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post Jul 28 2025, 10:53 AM

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QUOTE(GravityFi3ld @ Jul 28 2025, 10:37 AM)
yes, way back when it was still under the Mammoth Empire group  sweat.gif
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This is one of the lucky project that got revived by a few joint venture party..

Others is not so lucky to say..
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post Jul 28 2025, 10:57 AM

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QUOTE(GravityFi3ld @ Jul 28 2025, 10:37 AM)
yes, way back when it was still under the Mammoth Empire group  sweat.gif
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What happened to the mammoth?
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post Jul 28 2025, 04:15 PM

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Jul 28 2025, 10:57 AM)
What happened to the mammoth?
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They ran into financial trouble.

The story or rumour I heard was that they tried to chew more than they could handle.

They weren’t just the developer.
They were also the main contractor.
They were also the sub-contractors.
They were also the vendors.

In a conventional setup, the developer earns what a developer is meant to earn. Construction is outsourced to a main contractor, who then manages part of the project’s cash flow—essentially helping to finance the project indirectly. The main contractor further outsources to sub-contractors, who also bear part of the financial burden. This way, risk and cash flow responsibilities are spread across multiple parties.

But Mammoth tried to “sapu” the entire chain—developer, contractor, sub-contractor, vendor. In good times, that’s a powerful leverage. You profit from every link in the chain.

But when the market takes a hit, this becomes a double-edged sword.
Just one point of cash flow disruption—and the whole project gets stuck.

No payment, no work. That’s the version of the story I heard.

You judge for yourself whether it’s believable.
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post Jul 28 2025, 04:34 PM

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post Jul 28 2025, 05:18 PM

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I will most probably never boyght any new property anymore. Paid off 2. Rent out edi. Im also renting.

If you are well off and can sort your finance and passive income nicely. Rent is the way forward.

Dont wanna be bogged down by banks interest, the house degradation/obsolete/wear and tear/taxes/maintenance fees/fixing plumbings, repairs etc2
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post Jul 28 2025, 11:40 PM

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Buy landed without maintenance fees still OK. End of the day, it is a place for people to live.
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post Jul 29 2025, 10:33 AM

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Most of these waterfish are attracted by what's being offered, the rendered facilities and amenities which later turned out to be hella expensive to maintain and what not, these people were being sold the lifestyle and not the peace.

Mostly delusions pushed by developers that the units are in high demand and have good resale or rental values.

Lots of property investors in Malaysia don't know what they're doing, and are essentially chucking wads of cash at random holes in the wall hoping to strike the jackpot hole.
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post Aug 3 2025, 01:56 PM

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QUOTE(renodiy @ Aug 1 2025, 09:34 PM)
I am going thru the sales advrt and some houses on sale more than 5 years still not sold. i thought landed in penang is a hotcake. But seems otherwise.
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QUOTE(fantasy1989 @ Aug 1 2025, 09:59 PM)
price lor

and there quite crowded + foreigner hotcake area ; your neighbor might be foreigner that pancung ayam at compound
my parents house 3 story Terrance we stay like 12 years already ..my neighbor also on n off come clean ..try to sell but didnt sell then keep it till now unfurnished
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QUOTE(renodiy @ Aug 1 2025, 10:04 PM)
this was supposed to be a premium area, if i can recall back. During launching, it was a hotcake right? terrace was 600k if not mistaken.

now i see subsale all not moving... very sad like this as landed is so limited on the island.
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QUOTE(netflix2019 @ Aug 1 2025, 10:39 PM)
All buy with "future" price. But future never come.

Main thing is Penang lang ego so huge they wont admit they were wrong. Die also wont sell at loss. The boomers there also similar out of touch with reality type. Its like mini singapork there
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post Aug 23 2025, 03:53 PM

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QUOTE(netflix2019 @ Aug 23 2025, 01:41 PM)
Leverage amplify profits as well as losses.


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post Aug 31 2025, 10:16 PM

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QUOTE(RAGALIA @ Jul 28 2025, 10:51 AM)
The star start producing such nonsense article? No need verify? Who is the author lol

"To illustrate the gravity of this issue, consider a mixed development in Kota Damansara. Launched in 2016 with an average pricing of RM750 per sq ft (psf), units in this development are now reselling for as low as RM268 psf since their handover in 2020. This represents a staggering plunge of up to 64% in value in one of the Klang Valley’s more prominent and desirable addresses."

I assume it's Emporis he's talking about. From past trascaction (from EdgeProp) lowest is RM570. Now posting lowest is RM469 as of today. RM268??? For a 700 sq ft that's only RM188k lol. Please let me know if got such deal. Even auction don't have such pricing...

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post Sep 1 2025, 03:10 AM

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Property no problem!

Malaysian love property!

King love property!

Everyone love property!

Everyone love work for bank!

You better buy now, future going to be RM10k per sq ft!
TSicemanfx
post Sep 1 2025, 08:25 PM

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QUOTE(HikayatSalju @ Sep 1 2025, 05:52 PM)
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post Sep 3 2025, 09:15 AM

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QUOTE(AskarPerang @ Sep 2 2025, 09:26 AM)
Lelong price still manage to fetch 300K here.
Wow.
Good catch?

Actually plenty of lelong units from here at the moment.
Not sure why the issue.
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Sep 8 2025, 11:36 PM)
Plenty of Lelong Units

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QUOTE(Sihambodoh @ Sep 8 2025, 11:34 PM)
Between this and Scott Garden, which is the better option? Both also below 300k. Both also about 50% discount from launch price.
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QUOTE(AskarPerang @ Sep 10 2025, 04:10 PM)
Another lelong unit sold just now.
At below 300K now.

Single bidder won unchallenged at reserve price 278K.

Good catch?
Plenty more lelong units in the market at the moment.
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QUOTE(thx2012 @ Sep 16 2025, 12:18 PM)
actually 278k is same as during launch price, the Lelong Unit doesn't buy at cheap.
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post Sep 3 2025, 09:17 AM

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This thread move from property thread???

Must be askar perang request
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post Sep 3 2025, 09:21 AM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Sep 1 2025, 08:25 PM)
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Keyword there and it’s not uncommon since day 1

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QUOTE(mac_mac21 @ Sep 3 2025, 09:17 AM)
This thread move from property thread???

Must be askar perang request
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I didn't notice that too.
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post Oct 4 2025, 05:14 PM

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QUOTE(phunkydude @ Oct 4 2025, 01:28 PM)

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In the last 15 years, most foreign investors are under water. Most of recent foreign buyers are for mm2h visa.

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post Oct 6 2025, 07:54 AM

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KUALA LUMPUR: Nearly 300 Bukit Damansara residents, joined by singer Sheila Majid, former CIMB chairman Nazir Razak, former minister Khairy Jamaluddin and activist Ambiga Sreenevasan, took to the streets today to protest against the planned redevelopment of Wisma Damansara into two 60-storey towers.

Holding placards with the words “Save Bukit Damansara” and “No to Skyscrapers”, residents warned that the project would turn Jalan Semantan into a permanent traffic jam, overwhelm infrastructure and erase the neighbourhood’s identity.

Nazir said while he supported development, the project was “monstrous”.

Bukit Damansara Homeowners’ Association president Sufian Majid said residents only learnt of the project via a newspaper notice on Aug 1, which revealed approval for a plot ratio of 1:9.6 – 60% higher than the 1:6 cap in KLLP 2040.

https://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/...wisma-damansara

Uuu/bbb liked to claim god no longer make land, is scarcity but ignored redevelopment is an option.

With plot ratio of 9.6 possible, high rise could be higher i.e 50% more area or new supply from the same plot of land.

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