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gooroojee
post Jun 20 2022, 08:07 PM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Jun 13 2022, 04:16 PM)
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https://www.theedgemarkets.com/article/stat...pfs-t20-members

malehsians are poorer than most expected.
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Any ideas what the top 1% of Malaysians make in annual income?

As reference, Singapore = SG$620k, USA = US$600k to be in their respective country's top 1%.

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post Jun 27 2022, 02:38 PM

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QUOTE(Jennypenny @ Jun 27 2022, 02:13 PM)
Where did you get Singapore or US income number to be so high?
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Google ah
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post Jun 27 2022, 05:03 PM

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QUOTE(Jennypenny @ Jun 27 2022, 02:56 PM)
I googled, but your numbers seem extremely high, hence, I am asking for your source.

For Americans, the top 1% salary seems to be around $300k. Taking $600k (household) divided by average household number = 2.6 --> 2 (rounding down to account for children)

Where as for Singapore, they do not have an official number, but we can make some assumptions, like top 14% of households will be $240k.

Take top 1% (240k x 2.5, following US trend), we can assume that S$600k per household (1%). Average household in Singapore is 3 (rounding down equally with US, gets 2.3).

That will bring us to average of S$260k to crack 1%

Feel free to discuss
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And ur sos ?

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post Jun 28 2022, 09:32 PM

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QUOTE(Jennypenny @ Jun 28 2022, 06:58 AM)
I see you're differentiating between household and individual. Yes when you have a household, individual incomes within the household can be less but still collectively be in the top 1%, but I was only interested in individual top 1% and I didn't try converting it implicitly to household income or vice versa, because it's no longer an apple to apple comparison and doesn't tell us anything

For Singapore there is this website called world inequality database with 1% data.
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post Jun 29 2022, 06:15 PM

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QUOTE(Jennypenny @ Jun 29 2022, 10:28 AM)
Yes, you are interested in the top 1% for an individual, hence I calculated that number for you.

You were using the wrong number for an individual.
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You are probably right that 600k is counted as household income and the actual individual income needed is less, but it's not a straight measure, conversion or extrapolation.

Imho the whole concept of household income is a sham. Half the people I know are single income households and the other half are double income from husband and wife. I've never in my life seen a household supported by 2.6 people, or a household supported by 5 people. So what, do they all come home and put all their money into the same tabung... ?

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post Jun 29 2022, 08:43 PM

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post Jul 2 2022, 09:15 PM

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QUOTE(Jennypenny @ Jun 27 2022, 02:56 PM)
I googled, but your numbers seem extremely high, hence, I am asking for your source.

For Americans, the top 1% salary seems to be around $300k. Taking $600k (household) divided by average household number = 2.6 --> 2 (rounding down to account for children)

Where as for Singapore, they do not have an official number, but we can make some assumptions, like top 14% of households will be $240k.

Take top 1% (240k x 2.5, following US trend), we can assume that S$600k per household (1%). Average household in Singapore is 3 (rounding down equally with US, gets 2.3).

That will bring us to average of S$260k to crack 1%

Feel free to discuss
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Here is a more recent statement from the Singaporean MOF which like the USA has the only agency in the government that has individual income data based on reported taxable income.

https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/budg...12-of-taxpayers

It would seem that the annual income I had pegged for the top 1% in Singapore is not too high at all. The announcement to raise taxes impacting the top 1.2% of individual tax payers in Singapore, starts from people earning over $500,000 a year.

If top 1.2% is $500,000 then top 1% is higher. This is by individual.

Feel free to discuss.
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post Jul 4 2022, 10:11 AM

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QUOTE(Jennypenny @ Jul 4 2022, 09:40 AM)
Ah yes, this is indeed a good data point.

Singapore however has disproportionate amount of foreigners at their 1% as they are the regional hub for SEA, and Asia.

I read in FT before that 30%++ of the top income earners are foreigners, but I cannot find the source.

So, thanks for the data point.
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That is completely unrelated, and also foreigners are taxed a flat rate.
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post Apr 9 2023, 05:28 PM

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QUOTE(AskarPerang @ Apr 9 2023, 03:38 PM)
8th round reauction.
Drop from 800K.

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Whoever valued it at rm800k need to tell me what they are smoking...

About rm400k lah, that unit.
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post Sep 24 2023, 04:10 PM

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Auction market seems quite hot and prices quite low.
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post May 5 2024, 12:52 PM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ May 5 2024, 12:08 PM)

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That's why the right way to use loans is to pay extra as much as possible , so that every cent of extra payment is being used to pay off principal as early as possible.
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post Jun 19 2024, 10:05 PM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Jun 19 2024, 09:42 PM)
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Malaysian is poorer than most expected.
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No breakdown by age ?
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post Jun 19 2024, 11:32 PM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Jun 19 2024, 10:51 PM)
Thanks. Wasn't expecting that. Thought T20 would be skewed to 45-54 age group. Haha.
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post Jul 18 2024, 09:18 AM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Jul 18 2024, 07:32 AM)

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Good or not depends on what you do with it after
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post Jul 29 2024, 10:54 AM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Jul 29 2024, 10:42 AM)

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KL population so small ?
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post Jul 28 2025, 11:40 PM

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Buy landed without maintenance fees still OK. End of the day, it is a place for people to live.

 

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