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 Multiple Signs of Malaysia Property Bubble V20

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swanlover
post Aug 10 2021, 07:40 PM

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Those on compress loan brought to Holland by guru sure stress Gila at times like this...
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post Aug 10 2021, 08:15 PM

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QUOTE(Bendan520 @ Aug 10 2021, 05:15 PM)
Dude, I was stupid back then just fresh out of uni..

Wanted to live the lavish life, drive nice cars be rich..  due to so many brainwashing, now that Im older.. really wanna slap myself.
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We need more people to speak up, they are advertising aggressively. Those uninitiated would get carried away by their talks.


QUOTE(debonairs91 @ Aug 10 2021, 05:29 PM)
So you did compress loan? Means you have 1.32m of debt when age is still young? Do share more so others can learn from it.
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I am curious also about this. If that was during freshies, that means you are doing quite good actually. Of course, without the properties you would likely be better.
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QUOTE(John00 @ Aug 10 2021, 08:15 PM)
We need more people to speak up, they are advertising aggressively.  Those uninitiated would get carried away by their talks.
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post Aug 10 2021, 11:10 PM

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high earner if can get such high loan...

QUOTE(debonairs91 @ Aug 10 2021, 05:29 PM)
So you did compress loan? Means you have 1.32m of debt when age is still young? Do share more so others can learn from it.
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post Aug 12 2021, 05:00 PM

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QUOTE(BillCollector @ Aug 10 2021, 05:17 PM)
This project sold with gigantic cashbacks and rebates as well as a GRR scheme. Many saw it as free and easy money except it wasn't and soon a fool and his money was parted.
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I see.. tq...
So i guess most of the buyers for this MK was those investors.. they buy and hope to sell out.
But if they don't hv the holding power, they are the most suffer as now is pandemic time (less inquiry for sub sales and less tenant).
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post Aug 12 2021, 09:59 PM

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QUOTE(Shining star @ Aug 12 2021, 05:00 PM)
I see.. tq...
So i guess most of the buyers for this MK was those investors.. they buy and hope to sell out.
But if they don't hv the holding power, they are the most suffer as now is pandemic time (less inquiry for sub sales and less tenant).
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This was a 100% for investment only project.... no one would've bought it for own stay as it just wasn't one of those types of places.

A lot of "investors" bought into it on the pretext that the cashbacks itself was a fantastic profit especially at that time as on some units you could get up to RM40k in your hand and all you had to do was swipe RM2k for a booking fee and then sign the SPA, 6 weeks later you will find that cashback in your account. There were some that fell into that trap called "Loan Compression" and signed up for anywhere between 3 and 8 units.

The thing with this property was it rode on the false premise that KL Metropolis would be a 100% successful development and everyday there would be conventions and exhibitions that would flood the reservation hotlines for this property.


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post Aug 12 2021, 11:54 PM

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QUOTE(BillCollector @ Aug 12 2021, 09:59 PM)
This was a 100% for investment only project.... no one would've bought it for own stay as it just wasn't one of those types of places.

A lot of "investors" bought into it on the pretext that the cashbacks itself was a fantastic profit especially at that time as on some units you could get up to RM40k in your hand and all you had to do was swipe RM2k for a booking fee and then sign the SPA, 6 weeks later you will find that cashback in your account. There were some that fell into that trap called "Loan Compression" and signed up for anywhere between 3 and 8 units.

The thing with this property was it rode on the false premise that KL Metropolis would be a 100% successful development and everyday there would be conventions and exhibitions that would flood the reservation hotlines for this property.
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THIS

summore when the SA is a cute amoi and the buyer go gatal try to score with her. lel cool2.gif
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post Aug 13 2021, 03:09 AM

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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Aug 12 2021, 11:54 PM)
THIS

summore when the SA is a cute amoi and the buyer go gatal try to score with her. lel cool2.gif
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Oh yeah.... never underestimate just how many SPAs were signed because of "bebird gatal" though usually after SPA it needs to be serviced by someone else other than that amoi REN biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(BillCollector @ Aug 13 2021, 03:09 AM)
Oh yeah.... never underestimate just how many SPAs were signed because of "bebird gatal" though usually after SPA it needs to be serviced by someone else other than that amoi REN biggrin.gif
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cool2.gif

I have seen cases liddat before. signed up because of cute amoi/awek at road show

lel
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post Aug 13 2021, 03:20 AM

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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Aug 13 2021, 03:12 AM)
cool2.gif

I have seen cases liddat before. signed up because of cute amoi/awek at road show

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Hopefully he didn't lose money on that property.

Actually many developers would only request cute amois/aweks RENs from the agency for their road shows. Novice or don't know shit about properties also no prob.... as long got a pretty face then it's an all go.
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post Aug 17 2021, 09:36 AM

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QUOTE(BillCollector @ Aug 12 2021, 09:59 PM)
This was a 100% for investment only project.... no one would've bought it for own stay as it just wasn't one of those types of places.

A lot of "investors" bought into it on the pretext that the cashbacks itself was a fantastic profit especially at that time as on some units you could get up to RM40k in your hand and all you had to do was swipe RM2k for a booking fee and then sign the SPA, 6 weeks later you will find that cashback in your account. There were some that fell into that trap called "Loan Compression" and signed up for anywhere between 3 and 8 units.

The thing with this property was it rode on the false premise that KL Metropolis would be a 100% successful development and everyday there would be conventions and exhibitions that would flood the reservation hotlines for this property.
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Tq for explaining.

I think even some developer claim to hv GRR Gurantee Rental Return also didn't really gurantee.
Because if the company is gone and bankcrupt, who can gurantee you?

For above RM 40K, i think was from buyer loan amount, you just get it in advance.
Example: if the adjacent property is sold at RM 600K, but the mentioned property is RM 800K and free you cash back of RM 40K plus some discount.
A lot of buyers would buy it without study the background. at end of the day, developer can sell it higher price from RM 600k and what buyer get is from the jack up price.

So always compare the price, offer before purchase.

But as you said, if the amoi very charming and wear the skirt very short...
Then die la...
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post Aug 18 2021, 11:19 AM

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Houses at half-price, anyone?
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Headlines about property have been like this, of late: Is it time to buy? Is it β€˜still’ a safe investment? Is there light at the end of the tunnel?

There is a missing question: β€œWill prices fall further?”

https://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/...f-price-anyone/

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post Aug 18 2021, 01:51 PM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Aug 18 2021, 11:19 AM)
Houses at half-price, anyone?
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Headlines about property have been like this, of late: Is it time to buy? Is it β€˜still’ a safe investment? Is there light at the end of the tunnel?

There is a missing question: β€œWill prices fall further?”

https://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/...f-price-anyone/
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Isolated cases and misleading headline

Can find a double storey landed freehold in klang valley with half price?
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QUOTE(sendomike @ Aug 18 2021, 01:13 PM)
for subsale i can see the drop is pretty drastic.

I bought wangsa metroview at end of 2020 for RM390K.
5 years ago it was RM500K.

wanna shop for discounted property from dev to continue getting the 90% loan for my 3rd property.

anything to recommend?
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post Aug 18 2021, 04:10 PM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Aug 18 2021, 11:19 AM)
Houses at half-price, anyone?
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Headlines about property have been like this, of late: Is it time to buy? Is it β€˜still’ a safe investment? Is there light at the end of the tunnel?

There is a missing question: β€œWill prices fall further?”

https://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/...f-price-anyone/
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Definitely will drop further until net rental yield can cover installment (price point at which renters will think that why would they want to pay the rent when they themselves can own it with loan, price point at which property investment starts becoming sensible without capital appreciation). Unless the rental rate starts going up, which is extremely unlikely unless developers stop building, so that the existing supply pressure can be absorbed
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post Aug 18 2021, 05:23 PM

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QUOTE(gu~wak_zhai @ Aug 18 2021, 04:28 PM)
Arte+ also same, from NgChanMau

SPA in 2017 : RM1,282,250

Previous Valuation in 2019 : RM880,000

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https://www.facebook.com/1196804537105993/p...33483326771417/
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https://www.ngchanmau.com/property/48348

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post Aug 18 2021, 05:32 PM

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prices will drop even further especially for this generation.
Economy uncertainty + jobless.


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post Aug 18 2021, 11:17 PM

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With regards to household distribution by decile, a majority of households experienced a decline in income whereby many households from higher income decile group shifted to lower income group.

In 2020, there was an additional of 12.5 per cent of households with income less than RM2,500. Meanwhile, 20.0 per cent of households from the M40 group with income between RM4,850 and RM10,959 has moved to the B40 group. Households in the T20 group were also affected by COVID-19 pandemic where 12.8 per cent of this group has shifted to the M40 group. As the percentage decrease in income for B40 and M40 households was larger than T20 households group, the income distribution for B40 and M40 declined to 15.9 per cent (2019: 16.0%) and 36.9 per cent (2019: 37.2%) respectively. Meanwhile, T20 group owned 47.2 per cent of income, increased by 0.4 percentage points from 2019.

https://www.dosm.gov.my/v1/index.php?r=colu...mdhMjFMMWcyZz09

Household income declined in 2020, home price may need to adjust further to be affordable.

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QUOTE(Created On 21/1/2021 @ Aug 20 2021, 02:47 PM)
A friend of mine bought a unit at BSP21 for RM420k, now lelong is going for RM250k.
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QUOTE(Garysydney @ Aug 19 2021, 10:06 AM)
The problem is rental income - rents have dropped a lot!! It may be due to expats leaving Msia and not coming back - hopefully it will be a short term but my feeling is that it may not be short term.

Unless you are buying for your own stay in MK, be prepared for a couple of months with no tenants per year in MK. My unit in MK used to rent for rm6k/mth in 2014 and when i last check the rental prices now, the going rate is rm3500/mth. I think even with rm3,500, tenants will be picky as there are quite a few to choose from.

I find in MK that it tends to be a lot cooler in the unit (esp in the morning and later in the night) compared to my house in Bangsar Baru. My Bangsar Baru house is already quite cool as it faces North and don't get much sun at all throughout the day. I sleep very well in my unit in MK while i have to use air-conditioning (to cool the room down) in my Bangsar Baru house.
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post Aug 20 2021, 03:04 PM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Aug 18 2021, 11:17 PM)
Household income declined in 2020, home price may need to adjust further to be affordable.
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Dont bother la, has been listening to property price declining since 7 years ago.
No point expecting it going up or down. We used to have Prima, selangorku, affordable housing
end up everything rubbish now.

Rubbish project will always rubbish.
Champion product will always pack with buyers.


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