Hi guys, how to calculate the latest RGPT??
House bought pre-2010
Multiple Signs of Malaysia Property Bubble V20
Multiple Signs of Malaysia Property Bubble V20
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Jun 18 2020, 04:34 PM
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Hi guys, how to calculate the latest RGPT??
House bought pre-2010 |
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Jun 18 2020, 04:59 PM
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QUOTE(koja6049 @ Jun 6 2020, 08:03 PM) QUOTE(mroys@lyn @ Jun 6 2020, 08:09 PM) QUOTE(anangryorc @ Jun 6 2020, 09:30 PM) Not surprised to see people queueing at those property showrooms because the trick these developers use to lure people. Usually they will say something like early bird first 100 units get this and that freebies or special price. Then people come already they will say early bird finish la, promo units finish la and try to convince people to buy at actual price. That’s why people complain when going to these things.QUOTE(icemanfx @ Jun 18 2020, 10:05 AM) Sleepless nights – that would best describe the mental state of Alex, a property investor, these past few months. He had been optimistic about three years ago when he bought several properties on the advice of a “property guru”. Property prices will go up, you can enjoy bulk discounts and benefit from the rebates now, he was told. He was assured of great options for short or long-term rent to cover the mortgage, plus a lot of cash in hand. Someone should really make some laws to charge these scammer property gurus.The good days have come to an end and the promises have turned into a nightmare. With the current economic situation, what will it mean for Alex and his family if he is unable to service his mortgages when the six-month moratorium ends in September? He is but one of many individuals going through such a situation. https://www.theedgemarkets.com/article/cove...-under-pressure Mama Anas liked this post
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Jun 18 2020, 09:35 PM
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QUOTE(etan26 @ Jun 18 2020, 02:45 PM) My first house bought at RM68k, sold off at RM180k, second house bought at RM330k and off at RM740k. That's not the right logic. In that case, you might want to consider gambling in Genting an investment.So you called me a liar . . . . .lol. QUOTE(scorptim @ Jun 18 2020, 04:19 PM) Properties are an investment, provided you buy it at the right location for the right price. Similar to any other investments. What you had just described is the definition of speculation. Investment is something where the value (not the price) of what you invested in increases. E.g. you buy shares in company, company performs well, it reflects on your share price. Bricks and mortar themselves not increase in price, because they do not gain value. |
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Jun 18 2020, 10:02 PM
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QUOTE(MAGAMan-X @ Jun 18 2020, 09:35 PM) That's not the right logic. In that case, you might want to consider gambling in Genting an investment. The land my boy is an investment.What you had just described is the definition of speculation. Investment is something where the value (not the price) of what you invested in increases. E.g. you buy shares in company, company performs well, it reflects on your share price. Bricks and mortar themselves not increase in price, because they do not gain value. |
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Jun 18 2020, 10:49 PM
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QUOTE(MAGAMan-X @ Jun 18 2020, 09:35 PM) That's not the right logic. In that case, you might want to consider gambling in Genting an investment. You must be dreaming if you think shares are not based on speculation. How can you guarantee 100% that the company shares you bought will perform well? It’s still based on speculation. Likewise for property you buy based on the development potential of the area. It’s the same thing, what increases is not the brick and mortar but the value of the location.What you had just described is the definition of speculation. Investment is something where the value (not the price) of what you invested in increases. E.g. you buy shares in company, company performs well, it reflects on your share price. Bricks and mortar themselves not increase in price, because they do not gain value. |
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Jun 18 2020, 11:39 PM
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QUOTE(etan26 @ Jun 18 2020, 10:02 PM) Depends on what you build on that land lah. Besides, if this logic pans out, why do apartment prices go up 100% also.QUOTE(scorptim @ Jun 18 2020, 10:49 PM) You must be dreaming if you think shares are not based on speculation. How can you guarantee 100% that the company shares you bought will perform well? It’s still based on speculation. Likewise for property you buy based on the development potential of the area. It’s the same thing, what increases is not the brick and mortar but the value of the location. You're partially right, share prices are also based on speculation in the secondary market. Ultimately, analysts will then judge whether they're over/under valued based on the fundamentals. |
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Jun 18 2020, 11:42 PM
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Jun 19 2020, 12:33 AM
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now even got free first year installment after VP
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Jun 19 2020, 09:26 AM
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QUOTE(MAGAMan-X @ Jun 18 2020, 11:39 PM) Depends on what you build on that land lah. Besides, if this logic pans out, why do apartment prices go up 100% also. Now you are saying it . . . . .properties price do go up . . . You're partially right, share prices are also based on speculation in the secondary market. Ultimately, analysts will then judge whether they're over/under valued based on the fundamentals. |
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Jun 19 2020, 09:38 AM
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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Jun 18 2020, 11:42 PM) Apparently there is. The property gain is not based on your selling price minus buying price but based on the market value at 2013.But how the heck to know the market value at 2013? Does anyone knows? Or is there some new stuffs? https://loanstreet.com.my/learning-centre/rpgt-in-malaysia Budget 2020 As per the Budget 2020 announcement, the government had revised the RPGT imposed on the disposal of properties after a five-year period, by individual citizens and permanent residents, by setting the market value on 1 January 2013 as the property acquisition price for properties acquired before the said date, compared to the current base year of 1 January 2000. This means property owners will have lower tax payment especially to those who bought the property before 1 January 2000. For a clearer picture, take a look at below scenario as an example: Jared bought a house in 1990 for RM150,000. In January 2020, he sold it for RM600,000. Let’s assume that the market price on 1 January 2000 was RM300,000, while the market price for 1 January 2013 was RM480,000. The following is a calculation of RPGT without regard to other costs that are eligible for deduction. Before Budget 2020: RM600,000 - RM300,00 = RM300,000 RPGT = RM300,000 x 5% = RM15,000 After Budget 2020: RM600,000 - RM480,000 = RM120,000 RPGT = RM120,000 x 5% = RM6,000 As you can see, Jared saved RM16,500. That’s a lot! |
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Jun 19 2020, 10:36 AM
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QUOTE(etan26 @ Jun 19 2020, 09:26 AM) Price goes up, value stays the same. In other words, you're overpaying, at some point, there will be a correction. Ie still speculation. |
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Jun 19 2020, 11:03 AM
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Jun 19 2020, 11:08 AM
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QUOTE(Syie9^_^ @ Jun 19 2020, 11:03 AM) Other people's money how they want to spend it is up to them, when banks loan more, I buy more bank shares only After all, managing my portfolio from my computer is much easier than dealing with tenants and agents and lawyers. |
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Jun 19 2020, 11:10 AM
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QUOTE(MAGAMan-X @ Jun 19 2020, 12:38 PM) Other people's money how they want to spend it is up to them, when banks loan more, I buy more bank shares only totally agree with you! dont forget this in 6 months time After all, managing my portfolio from my computer is much easier than dealing with tenants and agents and lawyers. This post has been edited by Syie9^_^: Jun 19 2020, 11:10 AM |
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Jun 19 2020, 01:07 PM
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QUOTE(AskarPerang @ Oct 29 2019, 12:56 PM) Owner bought via subsale at 450k last year. Today, the same unit lelong at only 324k now. Possible no taker and drop to below 300k next? ![]() C-18-7, Type F, Hedgeford 10 Reserve price 🔥🔥RM 324,000🔥🔥 Freehold 562sqft, 1 car park slots Corner/End lot unit Auction: End of Nov 19 *Occupied unit (tenant staying) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « QUOTE(AskarPerang @ Jun 19 2020, 12:25 AM) No bidder at 252k. Further price drop. Owner bought subsale 520k in 2018.Updated price as below: C-18-3, Hedgeford 10 Reserve price 🔥🔥RM 226,800🔥🔥 Freehold 556sqft, 1 car park slot Highest floor unit Auction: 25-Jun-2020 (Thu) *Non bumi lot » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « This post has been edited by icemanfx: Jun 19 2020, 01:08 PM |
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Jun 21 2020, 01:35 PM
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Jun 21 2020, 01:45 PM
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Jun 21 2020, 01:48 PM
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500swft studio KL rm200k got?
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Jun 25 2020, 09:08 PM
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QUOTE(AskarPerang @ Oct 29 2019, 12:56 PM) Owner bought via subsale at 450k last year. Today, the same unit lelong at only 324k now. Possible no taker and drop to below 300k next? ![]() C-18-7, Type F, Hedgeford 10 Reserve price 🔥🔥RM 324,000🔥🔥 Freehold 562sqft, 1 car park slots Corner/End lot unit Auction: End of Nov 19 *Occupied unit (tenant staying) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « QUOTE(AskarPerang @ Jun 19 2020, 12:25 AM) No bidder at 252k. Further price drop. Updated price as below: C-18-3, Hedgeford 10 Reserve price 🔥🔥RM 226,800🔥🔥 Freehold 556sqft, 1 car park slot Highest floor unit Auction: 25-Jun-2020 (Thu) *Non bumi lot » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « QUOTE(AskarPerang @ Jun 25 2020, 06:55 PM) Bought 520k in June 2018 and auctioned for 236k.This post has been edited by icemanfx: Jun 25 2020, 09:09 PM |
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Jun 26 2020, 02:42 AM
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QUOTE(AskarPerang @ May 21 2020, 01:53 PM) Cheap lelong unit check in. Brand new unit. Non bumi lot. Drop from 620k. Now at 200k++ below bank value. B-13-02, Block B, Twin Residences Reserve price 🔥🔥RM 401,800🔥🔥 Freehold 1156 sqft, 2 car park slots Auction: 09-Jun-2020 (Tue) *Non bumi lot *Brand new unit condition » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « QUOTE(AskarPerang @ Jun 19 2020, 12:41 AM) Not sure what happened. Less than 300 units in total. But 10% units here enter lelong already. Recommended by property guru? Anyway, got many units below 400k now. This is the 2 available cheapest unit. 1 non bumi lot. 1 bumi lot below 300k. B-13-02, Block B, Twin Residences Reserve price 🔥🔥RM 321,500🔥🔥 Freehold 1156 sqft, 2 car park slots (side by side) Auction: 25-Jun-2020 (Thu) *Non bumi lot » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « A-23-01, Block A, Twin Residences Reserve price 🔥🔥RM 298,890🔥🔥 Freehold 871 sqft, 2 car park slots (but tandem arrangement) Auction: 25-Jun-2020 (Thu) *BUMI lot » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « |
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