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 Fixed Deposit Rates In Malaysia V. No.15, Strictly for FD Discussion Only

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David_Yang
post Jan 4 2019, 11:44 PM

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Hmm, 4.35 -> 4.20 -> 4.15

Unfriendly trend @ OCBC
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post Jan 5 2019, 07:21 AM

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QUOTE(kimusu2002 @ Jan 4 2019, 10:01 PM)
hi all

anyone aware of any upcoming FD promo from RHB ? tx
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It's 4.25% for 5 months - Islamic FD. I got it from my RHB Remisser.

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post Jan 5 2019, 11:02 AM

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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Jan 4 2019, 10:27 PM)
mine were all old from 2013/14 due 2018/19 - Excl 5 ,6 monthly interest
and then end 2017 due to merger converted to "new" FD same rate, 3 monthly interest
and maturity extended 6months to end 2019
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Thanks for the info. U guys were lucky with the 4.8 or 5% FD at that time ? thumbsup.gif thumbsup.gif

Now they are a bank now. Last Oct I asked about the SI, the officer said cannot do that for the monthly interest. Not sure they have changed that banking in interest for customer. Maybe will disturb the officer again next week.

They still need to catch up as a bank, no online account, even ATM machine being installed in their new premise. Debit card in March only. Still inconvenient to customers for FD interest withdrawal. hmm.gif hmm.gif
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post Jan 5 2019, 12:21 PM

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anyone know the MBSB 4.6% until what time?
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QUOTE(Vizhai @ Jan 5 2019, 12:21 PM)
anyone know the MBSB 4.6% until what time?
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This is a nego rate, can change from time to time. Call MBSB branch to see if they can offer u this rate or even higher. They will confirm with HQ.
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post Jan 5 2019, 04:04 PM

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QUOTE(Deal Hunter @ Jan 4 2019, 06:29 PM)
BASICS OF MONTHLY INTEREST - FD and SAVINGS ACCOUNTS

Suppose you place 365,000 at MBSB p1m24 offer at 4.65% p.a. (nego) today 4 Jan 2019.
Interest per day (IPD) is 365,000 x 4.65 /36500 = 46.50.

The exception is Maybank which uses 36500 for days in normal years and 36600 for days in leap year.

On 4 Feb 2019, MBSB will credit 46.50 x 31 = 1,441.50 into your MBSB savings account which you specified during your placement of the FD.

It is never added to your FD principal.

On 4 Mar 2019, credit of 46.50 x 28 = 1,302.00.
On  4 April 2019, get 46.50  x 31 = 1,441.50.
On 4 May 2019 get 46.50 x 30 = 1,395.00.
You can go and withdraw the interest on the 4th of each month.

However, you can also choose not to withdraw. The interest based on the End Of Day Balance (EODB) for each day will be calculated near midnite on the last day of the month and show up in your savings on the 1st of each month for possible withdrawal or kept for additional savings interest  to show up on the next 1st of the month.
This works only for those savings accounts where the savings interest for the calendar month is added on each month.

Some banks provide options or differentiate the eligibility for monthly FD interest and also monthly Savings interest according to different age groupings or classes of clients (not talking about special nego terms offered).

Please note that there are other saving accounts where the saving interest is calculated and added on effectively removable from 1 July and 1 January (Half-yearly type).

You should also be warned that certain banks also have non-standard treatment of when the transaction calculation is done  and the value is actually available and removable for monthly FD interest as well as calendar monthly Savings interest (i.e not exactly like the timing explained above).

Once you understand the basics and different variations, you can check what you are actually getting into and not get conned into losing out.
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Thanks for the great explanation bro.

I am just wondering then, this feature almost making it like an FD with a one month tenure right ?

Cause the usual FD, you will only get the interest after you 'commit' the funds for a certain period of time e.g. 6 months. And if you were to withdraw any thing earlier, all the interest will be forfeited.

So a monthly interest rate sounds like a rolling 1-month tenure FD right ?

Would there be any way that I can commit my principal for, say, 6 months and I just get the interest on a monthly basis? If yes, what's the consequences if I were to withdraw the principal earlier than 6 months ? Am I liable to some sort of clawback to the disbursed interests ?

This post has been edited by Xaemen: Jan 5 2019, 04:05 PM
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post Jan 5 2019, 04:17 PM

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QUOTE(Xaemen @ Jan 5 2019, 05:04 PM)
I am just wondering then, this feature almost making it like an FD with a one month tenure right ?

No, that would be too easy devil.gif

QUOTE(Xaemen @ Jan 5 2019, 05:04 PM)
Am I liable to some sort of clawback to the disbursed interests ?
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Yes, certainly.

And I don´t think you can get monthly interest for a 6mth FD, usually this starts with 1 year.
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post Jan 5 2019, 04:28 PM

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QUOTE(David_Yang @ Jan 5 2019, 04:17 PM)
No, that would be too easy  devil.gif
Yes, certainly.

And I don´t think you can get monthly interest for a 6mth FD, usually this starts with 1 year.
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Ok, so it's possible to structure an FD like that with a clawback clause ? How do I go about to do it ?
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post Jan 5 2019, 04:32 PM

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Is MBSB offer protected under PIDM?

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QUOTE(saintmikal @ Jan 5 2019, 04:32 PM)
Is MBSB offer protected under PIDM?
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Yes, it is.

Source: https://www.mbsbbank.com/consumer_deposit_term_deposit.html
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post Jan 5 2019, 04:47 PM

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QUOTE(Xaemen @ Jan 5 2019, 04:04 PM)
Thanks for the great explanation bro.

I am just wondering then, this feature almost making it like an FD with a one month tenure right ?

Cause the usual FD, you will only get the interest after you 'commit' the funds for a certain period of time e.g. 6 months. And if you were to withdraw any thing earlier, all the interest will be forfeited.

So a monthly interest rate sounds like a rolling 1-month tenure FD right ?

Would there be any way that I can commit my principal for, say, 6 months and I just get the interest on a monthly basis? If yes, what's the consequences if I were to withdraw the principal earlier than 6 months ? Am I liable to some sort of clawback to the disbursed interests ?
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You have to decide on your funds liquidity and when to use (or not use) in coming future.
E.g.
if you are undecided may use it in coming 1, 2, 3, 4 or 5 months, then park under 1 or 3 months FD
if you know you only need to use it in coming 6-11 months, then park under 6 months FD
if you know not going to use for 1-1.5 years, then park under 12-15 months FD
etc.

You cannot have the cake and eat it. If you park 6 months with monthly interest, and withdraw before 6 months is up, the back will deduct the fee and penalty from your principal amount when you uplift/withdraw. Therefore the safer way is save in 1 or 3 months FD and renew.

The other way is to split your funds into multiple FDs, e.g. let's take 100k
- put 60k for 12 mths
- put 30k for 6 mths
- put 10k for 1 mth auto renew board rate

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post Jan 5 2019, 05:41 PM

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QUOTE(fire_hoax @ Dec 29 2018, 03:38 PM)
Still work, the trick is to login to CIMB clicks first and then press that link and login again.

After that, it will redirect you to the FD placement page
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ended on Dec31 ... rip
This page is temporarily unavailable, kindly proceed to Apply & Invest > Fixed Deposit if you wish to place a Fixed Deposit. [CLK00875]
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post Jan 5 2019, 09:06 PM

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QUOTE(David_Yang @ Jan 5 2019, 04:17 PM)
And I don´t think you can get monthly interest for a 6mth FD, usually this starts with 1 year.
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Depending on the FD product and bank. AmBank 6 mth FD for seniors can still get monthly interest.
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QUOTE(bbgoat @ Jan 5 2019, 09:06 PM)
Depending on the FD product and bank. AmBank 6 mth FD for seniors can still get monthly interest.
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True. Even HLB eFD can get monthly interest.
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post Jan 5 2019, 11:45 PM

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Thanks guys. Will try ask at the nearest MBSB branches.

Any other banks that have higher rates than MBSB? Or better terms
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post Jan 6 2019, 02:14 AM

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Xaemen
I am just wondering then, this feature almost making it like an FD with a one month tenure right ?

NO in important ways.

Cause the usual FD, you will only get the interest after you 'commit' the funds for a certain period of time e.g. 6 months. And if you were to withdraw any thing earlier, all the interest will be forfeited.

YES this is the way the banks are going to work this year on for FD like p0m6 or even for monthly p1m6.

So a monthly interest rate sounds like a rolling 1-month tenure FD right ?

NOT AT ALL IN IMPORTANT DIFFERENCES. You need to understand the differences (nitty gritty details/figures) critically not to be conned with loose thinking, jargon, sweet talk and advertisement.

The 1 month FD autoroll with or without autoaddon of interest is usually at a much lower 1 month rate which can be done with autorenew. It is for normal low board rates and not better promos rates which are usually from 3 months up with higher minimum placement requirement.

You cannot autorenew with with or without autoaddon of interest to principal at promo rate, but will always suffer big drop to lower FD board rate.

Would there be any way that I can commit my principal for, say, 6 months and I just get the interest on a monthly basis?

YES you can get a p1m6 FD at Bank Rakyat with a minimum principal of 5k a placement.

If yes, what's the consequences if I were to withdraw the principal earlier than 6 months ? Am I liable to some sort of clawback to the disbursed interests ?

The bank will take back all the FD interests paid monthly by deducting from the principal given back to you.

Allthough you do not end up with interest, the important difference is that you can consider it as getting back part of your principal earlier than on maturity date! The other important difference, is that also can gain Savings Interest if you leave it in the bank's Savings Account or transfer the monthly paid FD interest to another bank account with higher monthly rest Savings Account such as OCBC 360 to get from 0.5 - 4.1% p.a. or UOB EA up to 3.6% (with 50k EODB).

However, if you want a better return, you should avoid FD board rates, and choose the best promo deal with monthly payment of interest. This type of FD promo usually 12m and longer tenure.

There are also promo FD which pay every 3 months p3 or 6 months p6.

There are 3 major reasons why periodic payment of interest is attractive.

1) Earlier return of fund as interest or considered as principal return in case of early uplift before maturity.

2) The periodic (monthly) interest can be used for expenses and help cash flow.

3) The periodic interest can be added on to other available funds to make more FD. This can be at other banks wherever there is the best promo on at that time. This enables growing of FD at a faster pace than waiting for maturity to act. The time difference will make a significant contribution.

This post has been edited by Deal Hunter: Jan 7 2019, 12:01 AM
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post Jan 6 2019, 12:04 PM

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https://www.ambank.com.my/eng/promotions-pa...PriorityBanking

Full TnC https://www.ambank.com.my/ambank/SiteAssets...yBankingTnC.pdf
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Exclusively for new AmBank SIGNATURE Priority Banking customers: Our AmStar Current Account + Fixed Deposit Bundle Double Rewards Promotion!

RM50 cashback when you maintain RM10,000 fresh funds in AmStar Current account for 1 month PLUS enjoy high interest rate of 4.40% p.a. for new FD placement of 12 months; maximum placement of RM200,0000! Visit https://www.ambank.com.my/eng/promotions-pa...PriorityBanking for details.

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QUOTE(lamode @ Jan 6 2019, 12:04 PM)
still ongoing
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QUOTE(cybpsych @ Jan 6 2019, 12:32 PM)
still ongoing
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post Jan 6 2019, 02:00 PM

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QUOTE(Deal Hunter @ Jan 6 2019, 02:14 AM)
Xaemen
I am just wondering then, this feature almost making it like an FD with a one month tenure right ?

NO in important ways.

Cause the usual FD, you will only get the interest after you 'commit' the funds for a certain period of time e.g. 6 months. And if you were to withdraw any thing earlier, all the interest will be forfeited.

YES this is the way the banks are going to work this year on for FD like p0m6 or even for monthly p1m6.

So a monthly interest rate sounds like a rolling 1-month tenure FD right ?

NOT AT ALL IN IMPORTANT DIFFERENCES. You need to understand the differences (nitty gritty details/figures) critically not to be conned with loose thinking, jargon, sweet talk and advertisement.

The 1 month FD autoroll with or without autoaddon of interest is usually at a much lower 1 month rate which can be done with autorenew. It is for normal low board rates and not better promos rates which are usually from 3 months up with higher minimum placement requirement.

You cannot autorenew with with or without autoaddon of interest to princial at promo rate, but will always suffer big drop to lower FD board rate.

Would there be any way that I can commit my principal for, say, 6 months and I just get the interest on a monthly basis?

YES you can get a p1m6 FD at Bank Rakyat with a minimum principal of 5k a placement.

If yes, what's the consequences if I were to withdraw the principal earlier than 6 months ? Am I liable to some sort of clawback to the disbursed interests ?

The bank will take back all the FD interests paid monthly by deducting from the principal given back to you.

Allthough you do not end up with interest, the important difference is that you can consider it as getting back part of your principal earlier than on maturity date! The other important difference, is that also can gain Savings Interest if you leave it in the bank's Savings Account or transfer the monthly paid FD interest to  another bank account with higher monthly rest Savings Account such as OCBC 360 to get from 0.5 - 4.1% p.a. or UOB EA up to 3.6% (with 50k EODB).

However, if you want a better return, you should avoid FD board rates, and choose the best promo deal with monthly payment of interest. This type of FD promo usually 12m and longer tenure.

There are also promo FD which pay every 3 months p3 or 6 months p6.

There are 3 major reasons why periodic payment of interest is attractive.

1) Earlier return of fund as interest or considered as principal return in case of early uplift before maturity.

2) The periodic (monthly) interest can be used for expenses and help cash flow.

3) The periodic interest can be added on to other available funds to make more FD. This can be at other banks wherever there is the best promo on at that time. This enables growing of FD at a faster pace than waiting for maturity to act. The time difference will make a significant contribution.
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thanks for this. very useful.


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