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dr2k3
post Jul 16 2017, 08:36 PM

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QUOTE(mot88 @ Jul 16 2017, 08:27 PM)
BHP is using Affin terminal. Error message when using Visa on Mastercard terminal is "card error'
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does it apply to physical card also? or only pay wave??

QUOTE(moonsatelite @ Jul 16 2017, 08:31 PM)
For my case when cashiers asked for the 16 digit card number, I used this website Credit Card Checker to manually create a valid card number and then use the number and verbally announce it for the cashier to enter it into the POS machine.

It's a hassle, but you can manually create it yourself.

Example, Digital Card Number "0196", then I use my debit card number and check one single digit one by one on the website till it says valid.

My fake card number 4848 1000 5702 "0196"
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lol...your method create hassle for your self, just ask them to activate the credit terminal 1 more time at 0.01.....scan but don't press enter and refer there.

else, if you have 2nd phone, just download credit card reader, activate samsung pay and scan it.
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post Jul 16 2017, 08:38 PM

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QUOTE(dr2k3 @ Jul 16 2017, 08:36 PM)
does it apply to physical card also? or only pay wave??
lol...your method create hassle for your self, just ask them to activate the credit terminal 1 more time at 0.01.....scan but don't press enter and refer there.

else, if you have 2nd phone, just download credit card reader, activate samsung pay and scan it.
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the 2nd phone method, I have already discovered it long time ago. Also, you're right that I created a hastle myself but I don't mind the trouble
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post Jul 16 2017, 08:41 PM

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QUOTE(Radiant360 @ Jul 16 2017, 08:34 PM)
You dont understand. They never seen anyone paying using a phone even you show them the app you are still paying using a phone. In their mind it's impossible you can put a credit card inside a phone.

Visa wave uses a card and credit card swipe uses a card they can't visualise how a phone + credit card will work on their traditional system. So I do not blame them.
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it's funny how West Malaysia is more reluctant on new things, while i am in east malaysia where technologies is always 5 years behind, are all exited to know how it works.

i even used Samsung Pay 3-4 month before the Samsung Pay beta started, no such problem.

maybe it's the way you present the phone/samsung pay laugh.gif

This post has been edited by dr2k3: Jul 16 2017, 08:43 PM
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post Jul 16 2017, 08:43 PM

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QUOTE(dr2k3 @ Jul 16 2017, 08:41 PM)
it's funny how West Malaysia is more reluctant on new things, while i am in east malaysia where technologies is always 5 years behind, are all exited to know how it works.

i even used Samsung Pay 3-4 month before the Samsung Pay beta started, no such problem.

maybe it's the way you present the phone/samsung pay  laugh.gif
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I'm from sabah btw, mostly mcd use card, and i only use when contests appears haha
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post Jul 16 2017, 08:45 PM

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QUOTE(XeactorZ @ Jul 16 2017, 06:57 PM)
try flash the Malaysia ROM ?
make sure is SM-G950FD as this is the model number for Malaysia version S8
but if not mistaken flash stock rom doesn't triggered the knox
knox counter are use use to track whether user have been root or not
if doesn't root = 0
if root then will show 1, even unroot back the 1 counter is still there and cannot use Samsung Pay anymore
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Yes it's SM-950FD
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post Jul 16 2017, 08:45 PM

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QUOTE(XeactorZ @ Jul 16 2017, 06:57 PM)
try flash the Malaysia ROM ?
make sure is SM-G950FD as this is the model number for Malaysia version S8
but if not mistaken flash stock rom doesn't triggered the knox
knox counter are use use to track whether user have been root or not
if doesn't root = 0
if root then will show 1, even unroot back the 1 counter is still there and cannot use Samsung Pay anymore
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Yes it's SM-950FD
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post Jul 16 2017, 08:47 PM

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QUOTE(noobandroid @ Jul 16 2017, 08:43 PM)
I'm from sabah btw, mostly mcd use card, and i only use when contests appears haha
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laugh.gif

i don't like to go to known Samsung Pay will work places, i like to go to places where Samsung pay is not known, i like the challenges laugh.gif

if those places are known and are registered Samsung Pay affiliated merchant, and give me those kind of problem,i will complaint to Samsung like no tomorrow

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post Jul 16 2017, 08:48 PM

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QUOTE(dr2k3 @ Jul 16 2017, 08:47 PM)
laugh.gif

i don't like to go to known Samsung Pay will work places, i like to go to places where Samsung pay is not known, i like the challenges  laugh.gif
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most places the credit card terminal is so close to the cashier i can't get my phone on there lol
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post Jul 16 2017, 08:49 PM

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QUOTE(Radiant360 @ Jul 16 2017, 08:47 PM)
Those common places I just take out my phone they immediately know what I want to do only those traditional machine the staff are not trained.

I only tried bhp and I get card error does Samsung pay works on petrol station in general.
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I successfully used Samsung Pay in Caltex, the funny thing is that the card machine prompted for both PIN & Signature. I did both.

Also, if you are a Petronas customer then they have officially announced support for Samsung Pay. They cannot say no anymore.

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post Jul 16 2017, 08:53 PM

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QUOTE(Radiant360 @ Jul 16 2017, 08:52 PM)
Have any success using loyalty card on Samsung pay?
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Which card to be more specific?
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post Jul 16 2017, 08:54 PM

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QUOTE(dr2k3 @ Jul 16 2017, 08:36 PM)
does it apply to physical card also? or only pay wave??
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Tested it via paywave at the pump.Didnt test at terminal inside.

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post Jul 16 2017, 08:54 PM

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QUOTE(Radiant360 @ Jul 16 2017, 08:52 PM)
Have any success using loyalty card on Samsung pay?
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You can't use the loyalty card on the pump itself, you have to go to the cashier and scan the barcode there.
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post Jul 16 2017, 08:55 PM

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QUOTE(moonsatelite @ Jul 16 2017, 08:49 PM)
I successfully used Samsung Pay in Caltex, the funny thing is that the card machine prompted for both PIN & Signature. I did both.

Also, if you are a Petronas customer then they have officially announced support for Samsung Pay. They cannot say no anymore.
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i once go to Starbuck at Sabah, stated accept Samsung Pay, but when i say i want use Samsung Pay, the cashier say the system is not configured yet, then when i pass her the physical card, she use paywave laugh.gif

that time i am not in a healthy condition to argue, so i just let that one slide.
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post Jul 16 2017, 09:02 PM

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QUOTE(Radiant360 @ Jul 16 2017, 08:58 PM)
I tried  Bonus link at shell the cashier still insist a card. Or maybe I need to tell them use mst but the barcode appear.

Same like Caltex bar code appear but fail scanning
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got mst for loyalty card? i thought don't have

QUOTE(Radiant360 @ Jul 16 2017, 09:00 PM)
I go to payment I don't say I want to use Samsung pay I'll say visa wave
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normally, i would say pay wave for not known places, for places already so obvious say Samsung Pay, i would say samsung pay
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post Jul 16 2017, 09:03 PM

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QUOTE(dr2k3 @ Jul 16 2017, 08:36 PM)
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I need to inform this as I just remembered this, the scan Samsung Pay on the 2nd phone method although it works but if you take that card number and put it on the card validator websites and the result WILL be that the card number is invalid. You can try it since you know the method yourself.

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post Jul 16 2017, 09:04 PM

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QUOTE(dr2k3 @ Jul 16 2017, 09:02 PM)
got mst for loyalty card? i thought don't have
normally, i would say pay wave for not known places, for places already so obvious say Samsung Pay, i would say samsung pay
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I'm under the mpression of just flashing the barcode for the cashier to scan it.
I might be wrong.

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post Jul 16 2017, 09:07 PM

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QUOTE(moonsatelite @ Jul 16 2017, 09:03 PM)
I need to inform this as I just remembered this, the scan Samsung Pay on the 2nd phone method although it works but if you take that card number and put it on the card validator websites and the result WILL be that the card number is invalid. You can try it since you know the method yourself.
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thats the point, it's virtual number of your real card, in case the number is stolen/leaked, or merchant got hacked, they got the not valid number, cannot be used, but it's valid for bank to refer back to Samsung pay transaction.

Cashier won't go to website to check whether it's valid or not, or atleast i don't think they know how to check

it's good to know the virtual number is not valid to be used online, i didn't bother to check lol, 1 more security feature.

QUOTE(David83 @ Jul 16 2017, 09:04 PM)
I have an impression of just flashing the barcode for the cashier to scan it.
I might be wrong.
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yes only the barcode. i did remeber saw a update mention mst for membership card function, but thats for my US set, even my US set i didn't see MST function on our loyalty card, malaysia set, i not sure.

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post Jul 16 2017, 09:29 PM

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QUOTE(Radiant360 @ Jul 16 2017, 09:06 PM)
Caltex did try to scan but fail. That why I wonder have anyone successful use loyalty card?
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i read somewhere that even the starbuck card barcode is unreadable in Samsung Pay, but using Starbuck App to scan the barcode is ok.
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post Jul 16 2017, 09:31 PM

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QUOTE(dr2k3 @ Jul 16 2017, 09:29 PM)
i read somewhere that even the starbuck card barcode is unreadable in Samsung Pay, but using Starbuck App to scan the barcode is ok.
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Is the barcode is encrypted or what?

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post Jul 16 2017, 09:40 PM

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QUOTE(David83 @ Jul 16 2017, 09:31 PM)
Is the barcode is encrypted or what?
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barcode is not encrypted, it's only number in the format of barcode.

no point to encrypt it, for loyalty card, since you are benefiting from it if people keep scanning/credit your loyalty barcode laugh.gif

it's different, for starbuck card barcode, since starbuck card is literary a cash card, it's vulnerable to fraud, well, doesn't matter, even physical card mention do not expose barcode, further more i don't use starbuck card anymore.

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