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coolkwc
post Jun 16 2008, 06:18 PM

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Actually a lot of opamps out there which are compatible, you can try them all, but you need money as well... sweat.gif
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post Jun 16 2008, 06:29 PM

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QUOTE(coolkwc @ Jun 16 2008, 06:18 PM)
Actually a lot of opamps out there which are compatible, you can try them all, but you need money as well... sweat.gif
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yea..some opamp are reali expensive.. sweat.gif
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True, but well, I'm not too keen on changing opamp again. But well, I try my luck on this new one, hope it will be the last one that I changed. I requested for some sample of LT1364 from Linear too, but I think thats gonna be awhile before it arrives
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post Jun 16 2008, 08:14 PM

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QUOTE(Najmods @ Jun 16 2008, 06:29 PM)
True, but well, I'm not too keen on changing opamp again. But well, I try my luck on this new one, hope it will be the last one that I changed. I requested for some sample of LT1364 from Linear too, but I think thats gonna be awhile before it arrives
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sure this is the last one or not? poisons all around whistling.gif laugh.gif
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post Jun 16 2008, 08:44 PM

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post Jun 16 2008, 08:46 PM

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QUOTE(songbo @ Jun 16 2008, 08:14 PM)
sure this is the last one or not? poisons all around  whistling.gif  laugh.gif
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I still don't know. Actually I really wanted to try AD8599 but Farnell won't accept credit card, RS don't sell them either sad.gif If this super secret opamp sounds nice, then I'll stick to it. If not there is LT1364.

I changed opamp few days ago, although I don't believe opamp burn-in I do hear sonic difference now, it started to sound warmer and mellow slightly from the day I solder it in smile.gif
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post Jun 16 2008, 09:19 PM

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QUOTE(campsol2k @ Jun 16 2008, 08:44 PM)
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I've done RMAA test for my X-Fi. Here's my latest result. The latest beta driver (2.18.0000) seems to perform much better than latest official driver (2.15.0006).
I'm not sure my results are reliable or not...  hmm.gif
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I'm sure there was something wrong in your latest results...the frequency response definitely won't exceed +-0.5dB...


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QUOTE(Najmods @ Jun 16 2008, 08:46 PM)
I still don't know. Actually I really wanted to try AD8599 but Farnell won't accept credit card, RS don't sell them either sad.gif If this super secret opamp sounds nice, then I'll stick to it. If not there is LT1364.

I changed opamp few days ago, although I don't believe opamp burn-in I do hear sonic difference now, it started to sound warmer and mellow slightly from the day I solder it in smile.gif
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why not you use Maybank2U for Farnell purchase?

Since you desolder/solder the opamp repeatedly, why not you just solder 3 different opamps in the board so that you can compare them directly...i plan to do so, at least 2 different opamps...

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post Jun 16 2008, 09:38 PM

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QUOTE(coolkwc @ Jun 16 2008, 09:19 PM)
why not you use Maybank2U for Farnell purchase?

Since you desolder/solder the opamp repeatedly, why not you just solder 3 different opamps in the board so that you can compare them directly...i plan to do so, at least 2 different opamps...
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I don't have Maybank account unfortunately

Good idea, but since I bypass the muting on primary, its not fair that the other channel still have it. I'm planning to remove opamp on other channel leaving clean supply to front channel smile.gif
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post Jun 16 2008, 09:41 PM

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QUOTE(Najmods @ Jun 16 2008, 09:38 PM)
I don't have Maybank account unfortunately

Good idea, but since I bypass the muting on primary, its not fair that the other channel still have it. I'm planning to remove opamp on other channel leaving clean supply to front channel smile.gif
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you can bypass those muting transistor as well...

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post Jun 16 2008, 09:43 PM

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QUOTE(campsol2k @ Jun 16 2008, 09:43 PM)
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Ok. I recalibrate the volume, restore all settings to default and rerun the test... twice. Here's what i got.
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may i know which X-Fi you using? non-Elite Pro won't show those excellent results...
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post Jun 16 2008, 09:56 PM

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QUOTE(coolkwc @ Jun 16 2008, 09:46 PM)
may i know which X-Fi you using? non-Elite Pro won't show those excellent results...
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X-Fi XtremeMusic first batch. I noticed there were few inconsistencies regarding RMAA test results... hmm.gif
I start to feel weird.... sweat.gif
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post Jun 16 2008, 10:01 PM

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QUOTE(campsol2k @ Jun 16 2008, 09:56 PM)
X-Fi XtremeMusic first batch. I noticed there were few inconsistencies regarding RMAA test results...  hmm.gif
I start to feel weird....  sweat.gif
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are you using line-in for recording or wave?

can you post you graph of frequency response, noise level and dynamic range?

EDIT: i highly doubted that you are using wave recording rather than line-in...impossible XtremeMusic can reach -106dB noise level and dynamic range for loop back test...

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post Jun 16 2008, 10:04 PM

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QUOTE(coolkwc @ Jun 16 2008, 10:01 PM)
are you using line-in for recording or wave?
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"what u hear" stream....
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post Jun 16 2008, 10:06 PM

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QUOTE(campsol2k @ Jun 16 2008, 10:04 PM)
"what u hear" stream....
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men, DSP internal loopback test is useless...see my edited post above..
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post Jun 16 2008, 10:11 PM

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QUOTE(coolkwc @ Jun 16 2008, 09:41 PM)
you can bypass those muting transistor as well...
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Those muting tranny is different, if you have the pinouts let me know
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post Jun 16 2008, 10:12 PM

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QUOTE(coolkwc @ Jun 16 2008, 10:06 PM)
men, DSP internal loopback test is useless...see my edited post above..
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sweat.gif laugh.gif

I'll rerun the test with real recording results.. stay tune.
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post Jun 16 2008, 10:20 PM

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QUOTE(Najmods @ Jun 16 2008, 10:11 PM)
Those muting tranny is different, if you have the pinouts let me know
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no, we no need to care about the pinout of those transistor...just solder the cable before those transistor and after SMD output resistor is done...

EDIT: OK, for those transistor in that surround channel, you will see N20+ printed on top...to bypass, just short the upper pin left and upper pin right... nod.gif

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post Jun 16 2008, 10:27 PM

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I guess my previous results are useless now. tongue.gif

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post Jun 16 2008, 11:11 PM

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QUOTE(coolkwc @ Jun 16 2008, 10:20 PM)
no, we no need to care about the pinout of those transistor...just solder the cable before those transistor and after SMD output resistor is done...

EDIT: OK, for those transistor in that surround channel, you will see N20+ printed on top...to bypass, just short the upper pin left and upper pin right... nod.gif
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Alright thanks for the info, currently I have no intention of doing so

Weird, the LME49720 becomes more and more listenable now, Katie Melua never sounded this good before biggrin.gif I don't think I need to change the opamp again if this continue smile.gif

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