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 Jan 19 2008, 07:34 PM
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Can somebody posting ur RMAA test for ur sound card? its easy only....Please go to this link RMAA, the latest version is 6.06, small file only,hope can see the results soon....
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Feb 15 2008, 09:44 PM
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Here is my XtremeMusic RMAA test...
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Mar 16 2008, 08:43 PM
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QUOTE(blessedvillain @ Mar 16 2008, 12:21 PM) NEW creative X-fi drivers are out, as of 14 March 2008 !!! Well done CREATIVE! Creative finally release its longgggggggggg waiting official driver after a lot of blaim, scold, petition, threaten, and curse by the X-Fi user....     User power...  But still a lot of complain from X-FI user here This post has been edited by coolkwc: Mar 16 2008, 08:54 PM |
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Mar 19 2008, 06:49 PM
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QUOTE(blessedvillain @ Mar 19 2008, 03:19 PM) oh really? only 2.1 output for digital ?? I;ll look into this... I think it required firmware update for Xtreme Elite Pro user, right?anyway, guys... be really careful when upgrading the newest driver for X-fi.... the new driver includes firmware too...  if not careful, it will ruin your hardware when upgrading... REALLY STOP ALL THE APPLICATION RUNNING IN THE BACKGROUND... |
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Mar 28 2008, 08:05 PM
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QUOTE(blessedvillain @ Mar 28 2008, 10:46 AM) guys...do you turn on your 24bit crystalizer? Turn on crystalizer is same as u increase ur bass and treble knob on ur speaker, no big deal...i turn off this feature in al time...useless for me..I just changed my speakers to AegoM and crystalizer is just too harsh, even on minimum settings. High and low really are too exaggerated, especially the high, till ear piercing... now i turn it off..but it's not as punchy as b4...  Added on March 28, 2008, 8:07 pm QUOTE(digita1tech @ Mar 28 2008, 04:55 PM) The Old use Samsung 2MB memory chip.......the new one (mine) uses Hynix chip 2MB memory..... ya, maybe the old one that use samsung chip can OC higher... Samsung is better in terms of memory chipset Added on March 28, 2008, 8:10 pm QUOTE(Xeon7222 @ Mar 28 2008, 05:06 PM) Or he mean XtremeGamer/XtremeAudio (new) vs XtremeMusic (old)? the xtemeMusic got two "version", old one no heatsink, new one got heatsink... Added on March 28, 2008, 8:13 pm QUOTE(Trueheart @ Mar 28 2008, 11:00 AM) Whats the different between the old x-fi and new x-fi?My friend said the old ones better. no "old ones better" issue...This post has been edited by coolkwc: Mar 28 2008, 08:13 PM |
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Mar 29 2008, 06:57 AM
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QUOTE(blessedvillain @ Mar 29 2008, 01:01 AM) ya i turned off crystalizer completely. I think if you have good speakers, crystalizer just makes the sound even worse.. just depends on the speaker used...below i do a simple test by using RMAA 6.0.6 to compare the Crystallizer function and the EQ and Bass/Treble knob...now, my music sounds warmer and more realistic without the occasional ear piercing sound and exaggerated lows. 1. Frequency Respond Curve between Crystalizer, EQ and Bass/Treble knob... 
EQ setting to simulate 50% crystalizer level 
Bass 60%/Treble 58% to simulate 50% crystalizer level 
So, crystalizer is just the function that can simply simulated by using EQ and Bass/Treble knob... |
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Mar 29 2008, 03:32 PM
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QUOTE(blessedvillain @ Mar 29 2008, 10:35 AM) @coolkwc Actually lost data can't be restored anymore, crystalizer restore compress audio back to audio cd quality is just a commercial slogan by Creative, crystalizer boost the low and high frequncies and pull down the mid range as the graph before, thats why the "dynamic range" seems like boosted also...nevertheless, crystalizer still is a good feature that suitable for the user who don't want to mess around with the EQ parameter, for the user who no need EQ, they won't need the crytalizer also... very nice experiment! wah...i can't believe Creative got away claiming their crystalizer "restore" back the quality lost quality. maybe this is true to certain extend with lower bitrate mp3s or lower end speakers..  This post has been edited by coolkwc: Mar 29 2008, 03:37 PM |
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Mar 29 2008, 05:09 PM
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QUOTE(Najmods @ Mar 29 2008, 05:06 PM) I read reviews that Crystallizer works better on the Prelude than on Creative own X-Fi Is it? got link or not?  |
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Mar 30 2008, 12:57 PM
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or straight away jump inside here
cumulating 592 post from anger Creative user in just 36 hours from the first thread released by the Creative forum moderator... |
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Apr 2 2008, 03:12 PM
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it means no Creative SG corp. adi?
 Added on April 2, 2008, 3:13 pm QUOTE(irwan6179 @ Mar 31 2008, 08:11 PM) i just hotrodded my xtrememusic with lm4562 and 2200uf cap. sounds better than ever got do any RMAA test or not? i wonder how the figure show after your mod..here's the guide if someone interested http://www.head-fi.org/forums/f46/hotroddi...-no-56k-226975/ This post has been edited by coolkwc: Apr 2 2008, 03:13 PM |
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Apr 3 2008, 11:46 AM
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QUOTE(teckhooi @ Apr 3 2008, 12:46 AM) Can This Creative Soundblaster X-FI Elite Pro u means X-FI Elite Pro from Blitz? sure can...Pair Wiht X-Fi I/O Drive Upgrade Kit? |
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Apr 3 2008, 12:05 PM
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QUOTE(kianweic @ Apr 3 2008, 11:57 AM) This is probably a good time to not buy the future new X-Fi stuff from Creative anymore. Especially after the Daniel K case. nope...i will read all feedback or review before i buy it...i don't mind buy the 2nd hand card but not the new card...sometimes boycott the product will make us less one choice, why we need to limit our own option?Hopefully other soundcard manufacturers could give Creative a run for its money. I reckon this very well be my last Sound Blaster card and will not resort to buying any of their products anymore. Cheers |
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Apr 3 2008, 12:22 PM
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QUOTE(Kytz @ Apr 3 2008, 12:16 PM) the problem is that creative intentionally cripples the sound card so you need to get a new one yap...as long as the problem aren't occur on me then is OK...as long as the Dolby Digital and DTS Functioning well in XP is OK for me....as long as it sounds good in XP is OK for me...i bought it 2nd hand for RM280, so for this price, if i feel satisfied then is OK for me...why would anyone want to get a sound card that has no driver support? |
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Apr 7 2008, 07:35 PM
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QUOTE(lcyeap90 @ Apr 6 2008, 10:26 PM) wana ask u all one thing... Mostly onboard realtek HD audio can done the job...got different, but too little...i'm thinking to buy a creative live external 24 bits soundcard. if compare this soundcard to the on board soundcard..do there any differences? i'm using laptop. |
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Apr 10 2008, 03:12 PM
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QUOTE(:+:[J]erR[y]:+: @ Apr 10 2008, 02:14 PM) So the conclusion, Elite Pro is the best among X-Fi? Ya, X-FI elite-Pro is the best among X-FI in terms of DAC and opamps, which play a majority role in sound...Is there an audible improvement? I wanna get a X-Fi Extreme Music if Bliz don't have stock of Elite Pro..  but extremeMusic can outperform elitepro if change the stock opamps to LM4562 and only if u have the soldering and desoldering skills.. |
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Apr 10 2008, 05:01 PM
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QUOTE(blessedvillain @ Apr 10 2008, 10:50 AM) just upgraded my current soundcard from Xtreme Music -> Elite Pro regarding to your no.2 and 3 statements, i would like to add some explanation on it, so that the user of non-elitePro can know more about the EQ in Creative Console well...the first impression was rather disappointing as it doesn't produce THAT much of audio improvement. That was the first impression... after shuffling through my music collection the whole night, I slowly pickup very subtle difference between the lowest X-Fi series Xtreme Music and the highest end Elite Pro. I'm on AegoM which is considered as the lower end hifi speakers, so it might not be able to reveal the full potential of Elite Pro, but it's still a damn good speakers to certain extend. Here's what I've noticed. 1. the bass is so much smoother now. it beats harder and ends with a much smoother feel. XtremeMusic bass...well it's rather dull. 2. The treble and bass tuning within Creative Audio Console has lesser impact on the audio output. Not sure whether this is a good thing or not, but after turning up treble and Bass to maximum, the music quality is still pretty acceptable. With XtremeMusic, the audio output changes very rapidly with each bass and treble setting, and with maximum treble it's just ear piercing and with maximum bass, music becomes blurry and lost all the music details. 3. I hardly need to tune the EQ settings with Elite Pro. Previously under XtremeMusic, I really need to spend time to fine tune the EQ to my liking. Elite Pro still produces a very bright audio output, emphasizing a lot of "effects" from your music. Actually Creative EQ and Bass/treble knob is not too good because messing with one parameter will affect others frequency channel, don't understand?  nvm, just see the graph below...This is 16Khz 12dB boost 
This frequency curve result of RMAA test 
This is 1Khz 6dB boost 
resulting boost of RMAA test 
This is 1Khz -6dB cut 
resulting cut of RMAA test 
You can see in the graph, as the part i circled, boosting one band will pull down the adjacent band, or cut down one band will raise the adjacent band.. thats why X-FI user spent a lot of time by fine tune the EQ... This is RMAA results from Full clock-wise bass/treble knob in X-FI console 
The curve show that why the treble piercing ear when turn the treble maximum...the region boost was the "piercing region" from 3kHz to 10Khz... I found that this phenomenon was cause by the Creative software itself, not the hardware, because other EQ plugin or media player EQ no such weird issue... So here my advise to non-Elite-Pro X-FI user, if u are a serious EQ tuner, avoid the creative console EQ... you can use EQ in the media player, most of them no such weird issue...i currently using Winamp EQ+ plugin paragraphic EQ My test results just apply to XtremeGamer, XtremeMusic, FatalityPro except ElitePro because first 3 are using exactly same hardware and software... @blessedvillain If you can post your test i will be very appreciate...  This post has been edited by coolkwc: Apr 10 2008, 05:05 PM |
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Apr 11 2008, 10:31 AM
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@blessedvillain
OK, thanks for your test...so that i can make a conclusion on Creative X-FI EQ... Well, here my advise to all X-FI user, if u are a serious EQ tuner, avoid the creative console EQ... Creative really not good on software development....The hardware itself no problem, but the software give troubles to the hardware... very bad  Still media player EQ or EQ plugin are the only choice to serious EQ tuner... |
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Apr 11 2008, 01:07 PM
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QUOTE(irwan6179 @ Apr 11 2008, 11:00 AM) hi there, sorry for late reply. quite a busy week for me here. I did rmaa test for my modded xfi but it seemed something is wrong with my interconnect as the program detected crossover. so i'm waiting for a new IC and my graphic card caps just stopped working a week ago. so it might be awhile before i could get that result again. i think the XtremeMusic definitely got Crossover problem, even my unmodded card also detect crossover when do a loop back test, so i think is not ur LM4562 problem...nvm, take ur time to post the results...as far as i remember, my freq response is +-2. i'm not sure why it's so bad. if bad IC cause that, that would be a relief to me. I also noticed that dynamic range is better a point or two than yours. i forgot about other detail. i'll definitely post a screenshot later. |
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Apr 14 2008, 12:48 PM
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QUOTE(blessedvillain @ Apr 14 2008, 08:59 AM) guys, This one i really don't know....but you can try it cause it won't harm anything... I think i read somewhere that modded daniek_k xfi driver is not really tested properly. He doesn't even have the card to test it, he only modified and re-enable the features locked for vista from the coding. can somebody confirm this?  Added on April 14, 2008, 12:51 pm QUOTE(arafat @ Apr 14 2008, 03:21 AM) which official driver is better for xp? You can try it also...won't harm anything...if you are gamer, latest driver will be better...the one in cd or in website(SBXF_PCDRV_LB_2_15_0006)? downloaded driver from web is labeled as web update 5. This post has been edited by coolkwc: Apr 14 2008, 12:51 PM |
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Apr 14 2008, 01:37 PM
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QUOTE(rsangel @ Apr 14 2008, 01:28 PM) X-Fi elite pro user reporting in... just found this thread lol =_=" X-FI Elite Pro pair with AL4121? Pairing with AL 4121 2.1 speaker....  u waste your sound card TOTALLYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   u are getting a bit too CREATIVE, lol... change it ASAP... This post has been edited by coolkwc: Apr 14 2008, 01:40 PM |
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