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coolkwc
post Jun 7 2008, 09:56 PM

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QUOTE(campsol2k @ Jun 7 2008, 07:06 PM)
Huh? LME49720 better than LM4562? How about the price?
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swap front stereo to LME49720 and real stereo to LM4562 to test which one is suit your taste...i plan to do so... tongue.gif
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post Jun 7 2008, 11:14 PM

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QUOTE(UNDERGROUND @ Jun 7 2008, 08:10 PM)
Nope, depends on your personal taste actually.

4562 - warm / more details
49720 - warmer / coloured / blue-ish ?

RM20 by SIEWSPHONE i guess, or if you get 4 opamps together maybe he will give you a cheaper price biggrin.gif
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Actually from people who tested it, the LME49720 is more detailed

Look here for some impression, I buy LME49720 because of this smile.gif
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post Jun 7 2008, 11:30 PM

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Man, i guess i will swap my opamp soon, very soon...
coolkwc
post Jun 8 2008, 11:27 AM

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QUOTE(UNDERGROUND @ Jun 7 2008, 11:30 PM)
Man, i guess i will swap my opamp soon, very soon...
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hey, you can try another opamp rather than LME49720, make it special...such as LT1364, LT1361, or even AD8599.. rolleyes.gif

to someone here rclxs0.gif

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post Jun 8 2008, 11:47 AM

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QUOTE(coolkwc @ Jun 8 2008, 11:27 AM)
hey, you can try another opamp rather than LME49720, make it special...such as LT1364, LT1361, or even AD8599.. rolleyes.gif

to someone here rclxs0.gif
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LOL, you see my posts isn't it laugh.gif But RM34.23 a piece? It makes me think more than twice to buy it doh.gif
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post Jun 8 2008, 11:51 AM

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QUOTE(Najmods @ Jun 8 2008, 11:47 AM)
LOL, you see my posts isn't it laugh.gif But RM34.23 a piece? It makes me think more than twice to buy it doh.gif
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who read your post rolleyes.gif unsure.gif , try AD8620...RM59.82 here... sweat.gif

EDIT: actually i have mix feeling about my mod so far...no audible defect in listening, but RMAA test in Entertainment mode produced bad results for sampling rate over 44.1kHz, something like below...

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the level was uneven, same as UNDERGROUND posted before(actually took from UNDERGROUND) tongue.gif only in Entertainment mode, others mode are all normal...although i know you won't bother the RMAA anymore, but i'm the person who very care about the subjective and objective test as well, but i still wonder what had causing this problem, my modded cap so far were

C72, C74, C75, C43 -->Rubycon MBZ 1000uf 16v,
C46, 91, 107, 119 -->Rubycon MBZ 1000uf 10v,
C16 -->Panasonic FL 680uf 4v

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the problem start occur after i finished the so call 'fourth phase' mod by swapped the C72, 74, 75, 43, 16 and 119...and according to Trodas and others DIYers those cap should be the DAC and opamps supply caps, so suppose shouldn't have problem even change it...thats why i still think simply replace the cap without consideration on the capacity will bring some problem, and the cap function not as easy as i thought...

but i really like the look of my card now, the cap were too beautiful tongue.gif , if can, i don't wish to change it to OSCON(because it is so expensive), but after that problem, now i'm struggle whether want to order those expensive good OSCON... sad.gif and i plan to swap the cap with the same value as original..

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post Jun 8 2008, 01:33 PM

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I don't know about Entertainment Mode, never used it, I just use Game and Audio Creation. If you don't have the money, you don't have to change it. Even Trodas using a higher value caps without any anomaly. Heck, I even tried 3300uF on 10uF stock capacitance without problems

Hmm, I don't know whether to change opamp or not....I have the money but I'm not too keen on changing those.
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post Jun 8 2008, 02:11 PM

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There are uncountable holes in my wallet, i can't fork out RM30 or 40 just for a opamp. Have to wait for another few weeks i guess.
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post Jun 8 2008, 07:01 PM

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i using win xp...wanna adjust to 24bit....
but where is the setting?

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post Jun 8 2008, 09:33 PM

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QUOTE(goh268 @ Jun 8 2008, 07:01 PM)
i using win xp...wanna adjust to 24bit....
but where is the setting?
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24bit? for what? you can't adjust bit depth through control panel as in Vista...and you no need to adjust too if you are playing 16bit music file since it won't bring any audible improvement...

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post Jun 8 2008, 11:21 PM

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Nothing you can change in the control panel, but you can do it with Foobar, i have no idea for the others.
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post Jun 8 2008, 11:38 PM

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@ coolkwc, I think I know why Entertainment mode have that kind of noise spikes. I read it somewhere that it natively uses 96kHz in that mode, so any other sampling rate might cause this. I say might, I don't know how true is this
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post Jun 9 2008, 11:09 AM

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QUOTE(Najmods @ Jun 8 2008, 11:38 PM)
@ coolkwc, I think I know why Entertainment mode have that kind of noise spikes. I read it somewhere that it natively uses 96kHz in that mode, so any other sampling rate might cause this. I say might, I don't know how true is this
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hehe, my main problem is not the spike, but is uneven level of graph which cause by interchannel leakage, you can see my previous graph the right channel higher than left...if i'm not mistaken, the DAC should running 192khz 24bit during stereo mode as stated in Creative website...well, i ruin one of the capacitor lead hole on the board yesterday, the hole just rip from the board after i solder/desolder the same place for more than 3 times sweat.gif , it really make me mad...

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post Jun 9 2008, 01:01 PM

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QUOTE(coolkwc @ Jun 9 2008, 11:09 AM)
hehe, my main problem is not the spike, but is uneven level of graph which cause by interchannel leakage, you can see my previous graph the right channel higher than left...if i'm not mistaken, the DAC should running 192khz 24bit during stereo mode as stated in Creative website...well, i ruin one of the capacitor lead hole on the board yesterday, the hole just rip from the board after i solder/desolder the same place for more than 3 times sweat.gif , it really make me mad...
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Well, that might be it, when Entertainment mode is on, it enables other channel, resulting the interchannel leakage. My guess that is. One more thing X-Fi XtremeMusic (or any other SB046X) can't do 192kHz recording, its the ADC limitation

That is why I don't easily swapping before knowing whether the capacitor it replaces fits the old one (in terms of size, capacitance etc.) , I've encounter that numerous times before. So I leave the holes close first and put caps on top of it without the legs in the holes. Now that everything's fine then I permanently solder the caps legs in the holes
How's your card? Is it still functional unsure.gif

Anyway I put 1000uF 6.3V Rubycon MBZ on C177, no problem smile.gif Its within the limit of the regulator and small enough to fit perfectly on it. I done some more cleanup on the card to makes it looks better. But because my hand is shaken (as usual) I do it slow, I don't want to FUBAR this lovely card. I'll post some picture later wink.gif

EDIT: Tons of edit, my English is rubbish today sweat.gif

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post Jun 9 2008, 02:37 PM

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QUOTE(Najmods @ Jun 9 2008, 01:01 PM)
Well, that might be it, when Entertainment mode is on, it enables other channel, resulting the interchannel leakage. My guess that is. One more thing X-Fi XtremeMusic (or any other SB046X) can't do 192kHz recording, its the ADC limitation

That is why I don't easily swapping before knowing whether the capacitor it replaces fits the old one (in terms of size, capacitance etc.) , I've encounter that numerous times before. So I leave the holes close first and put caps on top of it without the legs in the holes. Now that everything's fine then I permanently solder the caps legs in the holes
How's your card? Is it still functional unsure.gif

Anyway I put 1000uF 6.3V Rubycon MBZ on C177, no problem smile.gif Its within the limit of the regulator and small enough to fit perfectly on it. I done some more cleanup on the card to makes it looks better. But because my hand is shaken (as usual) I do it slow, I don't want to FUBAR this lovely card. I'll post some picture later wink.gif

EDIT: Tons of edit, my English is rubbish today sweat.gif
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well my card still functional and still look beautiful also tongue.gif , can't see the tapped wire, the broken traces was on the component side, is C16...but i'm unhappy because the card not perfect in my heart now sad.gif although it is only little defection...but the good news was since the card was imperfect now, it gave me a reason to mod it 'kaw kaw'... brows.gif

EDIT: i don't have camera now, need to wait until July...

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post Jun 10 2008, 01:12 AM

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What's the latest X-Fi drivers available currently? Btw, Daniel K just removed his modded drivers so I guess we'll have to live with stock original drivers from today onwards? sad.gif
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post Jun 10 2008, 01:19 AM

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QUOTE(clawhammer @ Jun 10 2008, 01:12 AM)
What's the latest X-Fi drivers available currently? Btw, Daniel K just removed his modded drivers so I guess we'll have to live with stock original drivers from today onwards? sad.gif
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HERE

Creative adi released beta driver, Console Launcher beta and DVD-Audio Player beta dated 2 Jun...for me, nothing special about Daniel_K modded driver if using WinXP...and the beta driver adi restore the Dolby function that missing in Vista, so no point to use modded driver anymore...i'm now downloading, will post my comment on those driver later..

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post Jun 10 2008, 01:28 AM

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Yup, I saw this beta driver too and I'm on Vista32. Maybe you can post a review after you've installed biggrin.gif When I was using XP, the YouP-Pax gave a better and crispier sound over original Creative drivers. I'm not sure if it's my ears laugh.gif
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post Jun 10 2008, 01:35 AM

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Actually i should thanks on you, because without your post here, i won't know Creative adi released beta driver for more than 1 week doh.gif
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post Jun 10 2008, 01:36 AM

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QUOTE(coolkwc @ Jun 10 2008, 01:19 AM)
HERE

Creative adi released beta driver, Console Launcher beta and DVD-Audio Player beta dated 2 Jun...for me, nothing special about Daniel_K modded driver if using WinXP...and the beta driver adi restore the Dolby function that missing in Vista, so no point to use modded driver anymore...i'm now downloading, will post my comment on those driver later..
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finally creative came out with new driver

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