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post Apr 18 2008, 12:19 AM

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QUOTE(coolkwc @ Apr 18 2008, 12:16 AM)
Actually i adi prepared myself to use the Vista, the networking in Vista is much more better than XP, because my daily activity is surf net and listen song, but i'm serious in sound quality, i can't compromise although it is just a minor degradation, so now i 90% in XP and 10% in Vista...
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yeah i prefer vista too. in the end i dump creative and went for another brand's sc. now working perfectly in vista rclxm9.gif

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post Apr 18 2008, 12:25 AM

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QUOTE(coolkwc @ Apr 18 2008, 12:00 AM)
What player u use in Vista? I use Winamp in Vista and have the exactly 100% same EQ setting as in XP...the difference is i saw the 'software mixing' in Vista instead 'hardware mixing' in XP, so i think this is the cause of SQ degradation since no direct sound in Vista...

another problem in Vista was the sound sometimes skip or pop....not often, but never happen in XP... sweat.gif
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I use winamp under both XP and Vista. I still do the EQ settings in Creative Audio Console as winamp EQ really too complicated for me. I'm on AegoM and XP does make the music output sounds better.

QUOTE(coolkwc @ Apr 18 2008, 12:16 AM)
Actually i adi prepared myself to use the Vista, the networking in Vista is much more better than XP, because my daily activity is surf net and listen song, but i'm serious in sound quality, i can't compromise although it is just a minor degradation, so now i 90% in XP and 10% in Vista...
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I'm now actually 95% vista and 5% XP. i use back XP when gaming and all other things with VIsta.

YEP! networking really does wonders on Vista. My bittorrent always running in full speed at 180kbps and it doesnt make my Vista lags. But in XP, at 180kbps, it slow the system to crawl at times.

It's really a pity cause i like vista quite alot compare to xp... yawn.gif
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post Apr 18 2008, 12:28 AM

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QUOTE(songbo @ Apr 18 2008, 12:05 AM)
thanks to creative for its crappy vista driver  vmad.gif  mad.gif
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i'm just wondering... is it really THAT difficult to write drivers for Vista?? and why dun they write it so that it drives the hardware to its full potential>??? funny.... rclxub.gif doh.gif
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post Apr 18 2008, 12:31 AM

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QUOTE(blessedvillain @ Apr 18 2008, 12:28 AM)
i'm just wondering... is it really THAT difficult to write drivers for Vista?? and why dun they write it so that it drives the hardware to its full potential>???  funny.... rclxub.gif  doh.gif
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a lot of users said this is purposely done by Creative to condemn the old card so that the new card 'X-FI 2' sales will be boosted.... sweat.gif
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post Apr 18 2008, 12:38 AM

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QUOTE(coolkwc @ Apr 18 2008, 12:31 AM)
a lot of users said this is purposely done by Creative to condemn the old card so that the new card 'X-FI 2' sales will be boosted.... sweat.gif
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ya..i know...

glad that my question triggered so much response. I gonna miss Vista. I'm almost there with you, coolkwc, any audio degration will annoy me!! I can't believe I'm at this stage where i need to change OS just to get those little audio details back!! vmad.gif
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post Apr 18 2008, 12:42 AM

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QUOTE(coolkwc @ Apr 18 2008, 12:31 AM)
a lot of users said this is purposely done by Creative to condemn the old card so that the new card 'X-FI 2' sales will be boosted.... sweat.gif
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They've done it on previous card, like on Audigy and Live! series. I'm not surprised to see this on future Creative cards, they always 'forgot' about the previous card no matter how powerful and great it was shakehead.gif
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post Apr 18 2008, 12:50 AM

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QUOTE(Najmods @ Apr 18 2008, 12:42 AM)
They've done it on previous card, like on Audigy and Live! series. I'm not surprised to see this on future Creative cards, they always 'forgot' about the previous card no matter how powerful and great it was shakehead.gif
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i am not so pity since i only bought 2nd hand X-FI for cheap price...but for those who bought the top end ElitePro for RM1000++ will jump from the building... sweat.gif


Added on April 18, 2008, 12:52 am
QUOTE(blessedvillain @ Apr 18 2008, 12:38 AM)
ya..i know...

glad that my question triggered so much response. I gonna miss Vista. I'm almost there with you, coolkwc, any audio degration will annoy me!! I can't believe I'm at this stage where i need to change OS just to get those little audio details back!!  vmad.gif
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I think you should be OK too since your ElitePro is only RM280 from Blitz...lol....but this sound card really hold me back to XP...now i just wait and see when i will loss my patience towards Creative...

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post Apr 18 2008, 12:53 AM

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QUOTE(coolkwc @ Apr 18 2008, 12:50 AM)
i am not so pity since i only bought 2nd hand X-FI for cheap price...but for those who bought the top end ElitePro for RM1000++ will jump from the building... sweat.gif


Added on April 18, 2008, 12:52 am

I think you should be OK too since your ElitePro is only RM280 from Blitz...lol....but this sound card really hold me back to XP...now i just wait and see when i will loss my patient towards Creative...
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say 'no' to creative!!!
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post Apr 18 2008, 12:57 AM

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QUOTE(songbo @ Apr 18 2008, 12:53 AM)
say 'no' to creative!!!
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But others brand like Auzentech say 'no' to me because my bank account say 'no' to them...lol tongue.gif
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QUOTE(songbo @ Apr 18 2008, 12:53 AM)
say 'no' to creative!!!
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True, I wanted to buy X-Fi cards, but I think long and hard about it. I still undecided, but I leaning towards anti Creative, and anti Audiotrak too. They seems to be as lazy as Creative. I don't mind if the driver don't get updates as often, but if only it got no problem in the first place
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post Apr 18 2008, 12:59 AM

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QUOTE(coolkwc @ Apr 18 2008, 12:57 AM)
But others brand like Auzentech say 'no' to me because my bank account say 'no' to them...lol tongue.gif
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lol...
slowly upgrade lo. i m using Auzentech nw. very impress with it. wont feel like using creative sc anymore after i own this card. plus they always update their driver thumbup.gif
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post Apr 18 2008, 01:01 AM

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QUOTE(Najmods @ Apr 18 2008, 12:58 AM)
True, I wanted to buy X-Fi cards, but I think long and hard about it. I still undecided, but I leaning towards anti Creative, and anti Audiotrak too. They seems to be as lazy as Creative. I don't mind if the driver don't get updates as often, but if only it got no problem in the first place
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Actually i really want the ElitePro from Blitz but was too late because i just got my XtremeMusic before that...RM280 too attractive to me although it might not work well in Vista... tongue.gif


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QUOTE(songbo @ Apr 18 2008, 12:59 AM)
lol...
slowly upgrade lo. i m using Auzentech nw. very impress with it. wont feel like using creative sc anymore after i own this card. plus they always update their driver  thumbup.gif
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Auzentech X-FI or what?

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post Apr 18 2008, 01:03 AM

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QUOTE(Najmods @ Apr 18 2008, 12:58 AM)
True, I wanted to buy X-Fi cards, but I think long and hard about it. I still undecided, but I leaning towards anti Creative, and anti Audiotrak too. They seems to be as lazy as Creative. I don't mind if the driver don't get updates as often, but if only it got no problem in the first place
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offtopic, audiotrak hv prob in their driver? they dont update their driver often?
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post Apr 18 2008, 01:07 AM

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QUOTE(coolkwc @ Apr 18 2008, 12:50 AM)
i am not so pity since i only bought 2nd hand X-FI for cheap price...but for those who bought the top end ElitePro for RM1000++ will jump from the building... sweat.gif


Added on April 18, 2008, 12:52 am

I think you should be OK too since your ElitePro is only RM280 from Blitz...lol....but this sound card really hold me back to XP...now i just wait and see when i will loss my patience towards Creative...
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it's not a matter of getting xfi at cheaper price, it's the hardware and software long term support that's important to me!

no point buying a Ferrari, if over the next 10years, there's no petrol to run it. same case here, ppl dun really upgrade their soundcard as often as graphics cards...good soundcard is a good soundcard, just pls dun cripple it purposely.
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QUOTE(songbo @ Apr 18 2008, 01:03 AM)
offtopic, audiotrak hv prob in their driver? they dont update their driver often?
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i think i came across ppl saying that audiotrak dun really update their drivers too....but at least their driver push the hardware to the fullest from the start...
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QUOTE(songbo @ Apr 18 2008, 01:03 AM)
offtopic, audiotrak hv prob in their driver? they dont update their driver often?
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Yes, the HD2 driver is still on beta stage, dated February last year, I've shot them with two e-mail, the first one the replied they will get a new driver soon (last year) and recently I found more problem, shot them with another more angrier e-mail and they have not responded. You know what I do to this? I totally disintegrate my soundcard, I rather use onboard sound connected to DAC and improve the DAC with the components on the card itself
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QUOTE(Najmods @ Apr 18 2008, 01:09 AM)
Yes, the HD2 driver is still on beta stage, dated February last year, I've shot them with two e-mail, the first one the replied they will get a new driver soon (last year) and recently I found more problem, shot them with another more angrier e-mail and they have not responded. You know what I do to this? I totally disintegrate my soundcard, I rather use onboard sound connected to DAC and improve the DAC with the components on the card itself
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you should post the pic of your "disintegrated" HD2. laugh.gif

just curious..what kind of problem did you encounter with the beta? maybe i missed your post in Audiotrak thread. care to mention it again?
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post Apr 18 2008, 01:20 AM

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QUOTE(coolkwc @ Apr 18 2008, 01:01 AM)
Actually i really want the ElitePro from Blitz but was too late because i just got my XtremeMusic before that...RM280 too attractive to me although it might not work well in Vista... tongue.gif


Added on April 18, 2008, 1:02 am

Auzentech X-FI or what?
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x-meridian! good for music~ but hard to get..

QUOTE(blessedvillain @ Apr 18 2008, 01:07 AM)
it's not a matter of getting xfi at cheaper price, it's the hardware and software long term support that's important to me!

no point buying a Ferrari, if over the next 10years, there's no petrol to run it. same case here, ppl dun really upgrade their soundcard as often as graphics cards...good soundcard is a good soundcard, just pls dun cripple it purposely.
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agree. the support is important!

QUOTE(Najmods @ Apr 18 2008, 01:09 AM)
Yes, the HD2 driver is still on beta stage, dated February last year, I've shot them with two e-mail, the first one the replied they will get a new driver soon (last year) and recently I found more problem, shot them with another more angrier e-mail and they have not responded. You know what I do to this? I totally disintegrate my soundcard, I rather use onboard sound connected to DAC and improve the DAC with the components on the card itself
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yeah wondering wats the issue huh?
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post Apr 18 2008, 01:26 AM

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QUOTE(blessedvillain @ Apr 18 2008, 01:07 AM)
it's not a matter of getting xfi at cheaper price, it's the hardware and software long term support that's important to me!

no point buying a Ferrari, if over the next 10years, there's no petrol to run it. same case here, ppl dun really upgrade their soundcard as often as graphics cards...good soundcard is a good soundcard, just pls dun cripple it purposely.
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ya, when i first bought my 2nd hand X-FI in January this year, from the perspective of hardware, i really thought the X-FI will sit inside my PC forever, but now it seems my thought was wrong, as the new generation of OS come out, the X-FI will lag behind far and far...

before i bought this card, my mind just got Creative, although i heard all the Audiotrak, Auzentech before, but i just not confident on that...but after i bought it, i went to the Creative forum and saw a lot of weird scenario...the criticism of the users there make me shock, after that i really went to search a lot of forum, modding forum etc...and just in three months, i found all the dark side of my card, either from hardware used or software....but is too late...

but i enjoy it, because i feel worth it for RM200++ i spent to know all this thing....at least after i got this card, i know the other brand of card, opamps, DAC and much more...

and I found that i become addicted to the sound card adi... sweat.gif

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QUOTE(coolkwc @ Apr 18 2008, 01:26 AM)
ya, when i first bought my 2nd hand X-FI in January this year, from the perspective of hardware, i really thought the X-FI will sit inside my PC forever, but now it seems my thought was wrong, as the new generation of OS come out, the X-FI will lag behind far and far...

before i bought this card, my mind just got Creative, although i heard all the Audiotrak, Auzentech before, but i just not confident on that...but after i bought it, i went to the Creative forum and saw a lot of weird scenario...the criticism of the users there make me shock, after that i really went to search a lot of forum, modding forum etc...and just in three months, i found all the dark side of my card, either from hardware used or software....but is too late...

but i enjoy it, because i feel worth it for RM200++ i spent to know all this thing....at least after i got this card, i know the other brand of card, opamps, DAC and much more...

and I found that i become addicted to the sound card adi... sweat.gif
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same case here. I've been using onboard audio since god knows when.... my first soundcard was Sound Blaster 16, and that was when the technology leaped forward and jump from the mobo's 'beep beep beep' sound to actual sound reproduction. but after that intel started to introduce the built in realtek, it's onboard all the way.

But when i got X-fi card for the first time, i got really really interested in technology behind it. that's when i started to hang out more in audiophile section. Now i know getting perfect-to-ear high fidelity costs alot!!! sigh~ i wish my wallet is capable to fulfill my desires........

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