Yeah, I'm confused most of the time as when you mentioned us military activities, it's always marines,

And marines seem to have their role mixed with the regular gi

At least now it's clarified!

But instead of outfitting a marine battalion, maybe we should be looking for more defensive structure.

I doubt we will ever have an encounter that require us to deploy offensive troop

the ruling elites at that time were the military and royals... they wont allow peasants to undermine them... CIA was an ally of convenience.. while it is true that the communist was a threat.. but the coup was just an excuse

yea... good for the muricans... sad for the indons... millions died... anyway, it was good for the region

while that may be true... 1k/month... haih.. not much anyway..

nopez... marines and the army have different roles.. why are the marines sometimes lacking in funding? because some of its capital assets are shared with the navy and the navy of course would allocate more to equipment that supports their main role.. same reason why LSTs are funded and commanded by the army and not navy although supposedly we fight as one

i think indon's konstrad seems to be competing with their marines

both maintain good relationship... somehow singkie closer to indon than msia...

light? hmm... us marine doesnt seem to be light.. they are more of an integrated/combined fighting force with support from the sea..

guardsmen ftw!

hmm I read on the investigative journalism review that Isis is running out of cash.. Seems that a number of their fighters are not paid .. Yup you are right the real danger are the ones returning from Syria / Iran. Unless they decide to join the Yemeni rebels .

Light in logistics terms, and actually yes in firepower terms too

Actually that is because US Marines are used as their quick reaction forces, in addition to the 2 airborne divisions. Thats why they also take over armed rescue roles too. They are based on island bases and at sea on board their amphib transports and they train to respond within a matter of days - which the US Army doesn't.

But they are relatively lightly equipped - thats 1 of the reason they can move fast. So they will need to be reinforced by the US Army.

Yes

light? a MEF is as huge as a country's armed forces...

With M1A1 Abrams, new AAV SV and the upcoming USMC ACV Programme (two competitors between the Terrex 2 or BAE ACV) i don't think the USMC is lightly equipped.

Don't forget their air aviation F-35, F-18, Harriers, AH-1Z Vipers & Ospreys etc.

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Polish Leopard 2PL MBT by Rheinmetall with MSSA Remote Weapon Station - IDEX 2017.



http://below-the-turret-ring.blogspot.co.i...ojects.html?m=1

That is true,but they need a lot of money mostly to maintain the civil service and bureaucracy of the caliphate. For small scale insugency they don't need as much. Plus most 'lone wolf' attacks overseas do so under invidual initiative and cost.

Even al-qaeda with smaller funding, more conservative doctrine and less military expertise can still be a major problem, if IS with their still large funding, aggressive philosophy, fanatical followers and far more military expertise change their strategy to disband the caliphate and disperse underground, they'll be far more dangerous.

most of the IS fighters are follows the wahabi ideology, they wont be joining the houthis syiah rebels... different school of thought , they will kill each other....

But they have very short logistics tail
Typically rely on Navy, Army and Airforce support
A USMC battalion task force is lighter than, say, a Russian battalion battle group

And compared with US Army divisions, yes its "light"
F-35 will replace Harrier
Compare Viper (USMC) vs Apache (Army)

/k going to really love this anti missile/surface weapon system

Siham Al Khaleej Technology, Leonardo and MBDA present their new “SIHAM3” combined Anti-Air and Anti-Surface Weapon System at IDEX 2017



At IDEX 2017, the UAE company Siham Al Khaleej Technology (SAKT), together with Leonardo and MBDA are presenting an innovative and cost-effective weapon system designated “SIHAM3”, providing a comprehensive and stand-alone anti-air and anti-surface capability to all types of warships.

This industrial cooperation will be officially announced during IDEX 2017 and a mock-up of the system will be displayed at the SAKT booth, B-0004, at NAVDEX.

In particular, SAKT will be responsible for integration of the “SIHAM3” weapon system, which combines two Leonardo products: the OTO Marlin WS 30mm Naval Gun and the Medusa MK4/B Electro-Optical Fire Control System (EO-FCS) providing a stand-alone capability to detect and track with high accuracy either air or surface targets. The system is completed with an MBDA Twin Air Defence Mistral missile launcher on a single mounting.

This new system will be fully controlled by a single operator and will allow for a significant reduction in the ship’s installation requirement thanks to a single mounted system.

A further evolution of the SIHAM3will allow integration with a Combat Management System (CMS).

This “Made in the UAE” system will be developed, produced, assembled and integrated by the three parties together.

http://www.mbda-systems.com/press-releases...stem-idex-2017/

CMIIW unlike the USMC the US Army doesn't have any fixed wing combat aircraft.

Leopard 2RI MBTs of the Indonesian Army 1st Cavalry Battalion. Credit to Denis Indrayadi.

Defensive V offensive troops fell out of usage after ww2. The rapid and fluid nature of modern war means that defensive structures will be useless after 24 hours.Counter offensives are your defense