Upgraded engine too? Still not very advanced, I don't think the armour can resist RPG.

70s era vehicle and its developed in the same era as the sibmas & condor where rpg protection still not a priority
its only recently the more updated version 6-wheeled acv19 can be upgraded to withstand rpg

The original AIFV had better engines than the M113 (250hp), in turn the ACV-15 had better engines than the AIFV (300hp).

Also, I don't think anything short of an MBT is RPG-proof. The ACV-15 series (including ACV-300 Adnan) is rated proof until 14.5mm HMG only, but I reckon most IFV-type vehicles with basic (not uparmored) protection is proof to around that standard anyway.

This post has been edited by MilitaryMadness: Feb 13 2017, 02:44 PM

nowadays bandits shoot all kinds of anti tank missiles like tow. milan , metis M , Kornets ..etc not just RPG

Someone mwntioned Bionix that one can tahan standard RPG7 round, but not PG7VL I'm sure.

PG-7VL [c.1977] Improved 93 mm HEAT warhead effective against most vehicles and fortified targets.

PG-7VR [c.1988] Dual 64 mm/105 mm HEAT warhead for defeating modern armored vehicles equipped with reactive armor blocks. The first warhead (64 mm HEAT) detonates the reactive armor block prematurely and the second warhead (105 mm HEAT) passes through the gap to hit the exposed armor underneath.





This post has been edited by razhar: Feb 13 2017, 07:57 PM

Basic armor or still have to bolt on extra chunks of laminated armor? If so then it doesn't count.

Sure not? I think even the heaviest IFV add-on laminated armor only proof against something like 20mm or 30mm autocannon fire only. Never heard IFV armor maker claim can proof against anything heavier like RPG or other anti tank rockets.

There's Namer as well as its predecessor, Nagmachon, Achzarit and Nakpadon


armata oso have ifv version

oso, inb4 "mbt-derived design dun count"

So what is the current status?

I though reported should be soon by Q2

I don't really know, maybe something could be shed by LIMA

I think the current Syria and Iraq conflict has shown that in open areas, ATGMs is a very effective deterrent against mass armor.

It is low profile, infantry operated, extreme range and accuracy is really its selling point. Expensive for sure but very effective in flat terrain.




This post has been edited by Skidd Chung: Feb 14 2017, 12:27 AM

The M-ADAA spotlight this time around is on Capt. Ahmad Faisal Muda who is posted at the School of Armour.

A big thank you to MAJ, AR Jason G. Dudley for the short write up on Capt. Ahmad Faisal below. Do spend some time to go over the fantastic photos that are accompanied with a brief description.

CAPT Ahmad Faisal Muda was posted to the School of Armour in January 2015. Despite a challenging operational tempo, instructing on at least six M113AS4 APC courses each year, CAPT Faisal maintains a positive attitude, and is very proud to be a member of the Puckapunyal community, the Combined Arms Training Centre, and the School of Armour. CAPT Faisal, working together with other members of Tactics Wing and the Combined Arms Training Centre, in particular with instructors from the School of Infantry and School of Artillery, provides some of the best combined arms training for Armoured Fighting Vehicle crewmen in the world.


Tactics wing’s instructors, School of Armour, Puckapunyal. Tactics wing encompasses Instructors from Tank, CRV and APC. Each are considered the very best of their stream.


CAPT Ahmad Faisal, CAPT Abdoo (APC Officer Instructor) CAPT Mcrae (Infantry Officer Instructor) CAPT Ridgeway (Artillery Officer Instructor) - Working together to deliver worlds best combined arms training.


CAPT Ahmad Faisal delivers a classroom based theory lesson for a Crew Commander’s Course. Lessons are learnt in the classroom and then confirmed in the field environment.


CAPT Ahmad Faisal conducts an After Action Review. Here the students and staff highlight aspects of the task that were done well, and areas for improvement.


Using chalk and a concrete floor, CAPT Ahmad Faisal demonstrates the intended scheme of maneuver for the next task. Even in the field environment, every effort is made to assist in conveying information from Instructors to Trainees.


Safety is paramount for mounted live fire training at the School. Here, CAPT Ahmad Faisal carries out a safety inspection prior to night live fire training.


CAPT Ahmad Faisal debriefs trainees on Orders delivery on the Section Commander Course. Section Commanders are junior soldiers who command up to six APCs. For many, it is their first taste of command.


Following deliberate orders, Trainees conduct a deliberate attack. Staff members are positioned in each vehicle to provide continuous feed back and instruction throughout the task.

Malaysia Australia Defence Alumni Association

Indonesian Army Caesar 155mm SPH live firing. Credit to Pen Kostrad.

The battle of opium hill

All can be countered fairly easily with better organization and tactics. Initial surprise early in the war could claim a few victims, but for the war to go as long as this and the SAA still sustaining such heavy casualties is flat out criminal.

Parking tanks haphazardly for hours without their supporting infantry, in the plain sight for every militants and their grandmother to see, what do you expect? The escorting infantry should have been more aggressive in clearing the surrounding area, at least up to maximum ATGM range. Instead they are huddled near the tanks, doing nothing.

Every armoured vehicle in the world is not gonna count if so

FTFY

p.s. the hurr-durr RPGs crowd likes to think that ATM infantry will find taking on potential threats just as easily with their little shoulder-fired RPGs. whether that is a realistic assumption or not...

This post has been edited by KLboy92: Feb 14 2017, 09:30 AM

kesien..



persians fight much better than them

only proxy bandits backed by super power...

i mean the tech transfer..

KNN Commies™ probably don't mind selling PG-7VR rounds or even their HJ-8 to anybody including non-state terrorists