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post Nov 26 2016, 01:50 PM

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QUOTE(Fat & Fluffy @ Nov 26 2016, 01:39 PM)
wwooots, receive some gossip... what do u think of singkie making their own tanks?
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new arm race in SEA? hmm.gif hmm.gif
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post Dec 5 2016, 10:43 AM

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QUOTE(Pete the great @ Dec 5 2016, 08:36 AM)
Oh great this just made airlines complicated when fly over middle east.

We dun want another mh17. Syria now has s400 and had held AAMs.
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Manpad have limited range.. which is good for low flying plane or helis but only certain manpads can reach air liner cruising height. Medium range or long range all can reach. The best way however is to avoid flying those zone to eliminate the risk

S400 is manned by Russia.. i doubt they will shoot another passenger planes without warning unless they willing to take the backlash.
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post Dec 5 2016, 06:11 PM

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QUOTE(mcnoodle @ Dec 5 2016, 05:48 PM)
Yes sure, they have a history of restraint. nod.gif
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Putin know how to play his ches pieces. Most likely the mh17 was out out control or unexpected.

Both side have thr tor system just it difficult to say who fire it when the zone was both in conflict
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post Jan 1 2017, 01:39 AM

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QUOTE(sukhoi35mk @ Dec 31 2016, 05:16 PM)
take example of of M2 browning 50 cal heavy machine gun.... it has little changes since intro in 1933.. it's such a perfect designed heavy machine gun... involved in all major wars since WW2....

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first it heavy even the light weight variant is not something you can carry whole day

this is also why it general usage is either on a tripod or vehicle mounted.. accuracy wise good enough to get plenty of 50cal lead on the ground

the reason why it stayed is because the 50cal everyone using it, why bother changing it when hardly any complain.
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post Jan 20 2017, 01:13 PM

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QUOTE(Strike @ Jan 20 2017, 11:49 AM)
really? so how

i thought can see in future indon paradrop leopard tank

if that even possible
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Transport their the new pindad fnss medium tank.
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post Jan 22 2017, 01:33 PM

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QUOTE(pcboss00 @ Jan 22 2017, 01:01 PM)
isn't a400m not even requested by tudm?
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it was during the Dr.M times when they are more or less apprehended to buy it though there no such strategic lift requirements presents during that period. However, given the situation which we are trying to improve the west militarly, its role is more so important now

The A400 was no more than a concept on paper that time. Of course this come with ToT in which CTRM have some parts in the A400 manufacturing etc

As I was told, TUDM have not much issue with western equipment even though they are forced to buy it. But again this is airbus military, they nvr get anything right the first time, ec725 similar with gearbox issues, and now the a400 gearbox


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post Feb 1 2017, 12:16 AM

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QUOTE(DDG_Ross @ Feb 1 2017, 12:13 AM)
confirm only until loi/loa is signed
until then its only tokok sing song
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Mrss.. would be interrsting which fellow will come and promote again.

Dcns? Dcme? Pt? St marine?
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post Feb 12 2017, 06:15 PM

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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Feb 12 2017, 05:43 PM)
right now the ball played in BAE court!
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the upgrade or overhaul is basic only.. from A4 to A5

BAE get the upgrade done or are they offering a more enticing upgrade option?
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post Feb 13 2017, 11:30 PM

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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Feb 12 2017, 07:44 PM)
BAE going to be the agent responsible to bring the SPH
of course they will be the one that going to do the upgrade other then maintenance and refurbishment as the SPH is a hot transfer

as long as the cost of upgrade is reasonable the it should be ok

we don't want another Brunei Blackhawk case
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So what is the current status?

I though reported should be soon by Q2
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post Feb 24 2017, 10:42 AM

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QUOTE(TechSuper @ Feb 24 2017, 10:34 AM)
mungkin dia nk kata sbb stabiliti kot...?
tp PT91 mmg has the lowest silhouette amongst modern MBTs
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Typical t72 design mah..
In fact, t90 is lower than most western tanks
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post Feb 25 2017, 02:23 PM

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QUOTE(patt_sue @ Feb 25 2017, 01:25 PM)
aside from lecrerc, french seems moving towards wheeled vehicle
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More of what sells in market...

Tanks would remain track for coming years giving the heavier armour of a tanks, it not anytime soon it will be wheels based.

But armiers are moving back to advance medium tank with 105mm guns.

I think malaysia should join the bandwagon in deploying medium tank for troop support but one again may question when we aready have gempita with denel turret for troop support role
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post Feb 26 2017, 02:01 AM

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QUOTE(waja2000 @ Feb 25 2017, 09:15 PM)
how about gempita add new varian with Oto Melera Hitfact 105mm/52 calibre  laugh.gif
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It would be must easier to work based on fnss and pt on indonesia medium tank concept. Joint in development of the medium tank since we already worked with them before

But again with gempita budget still draining the army wallet, doubt so anytime. I was told the army are avoiding the concept of mounting big gun onto small tanks since the skorpian with 90 gun which again a hear say that it have to stop to fire and if firing side way may topple the tanks.

But the fnss medium is a really tracked medium tank with proven turret design. So it might get our army interested again on medium tanks where mbt might be an overkilled.

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post Feb 26 2017, 02:08 AM

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QUOTE(waja2000 @ Feb 26 2017, 12:54 AM)
your picture is 155mm gun is too oversize for Gempita

Gempita with Oto Melera 105 gun look well balance ratio gun/body size。 as many other country 8x8 amour mount 105-120mm gun too.
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no sure how long our army will get SPH。
just Gempita more simple solution for bigger calliber before SPH... since we have best road, and "Jalan parit" "jalan kelapa sawit"  should be good enough for our 8x8 pass trough.
why atm ady abandon the big calibre stuff ? caliber too cost ? or too big for our solver to take?
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It such thing were to exist, the likely contender would be cockerill with their CT'CV105mm turret like the one used in skorpian and fnss medium tank design

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