Im getting it below rm180 for a 13kg bag. Recently i mixed it with natural balance as i just couldnt resist the result after temporarily given him NB when eagle pro was out of stock then.

Im getting em at a slightly lower than the discounted retail price. I dont think outside is selling any price lower than this.

What about yourself? Which do u feed urs with?

Ceser Milan, bless his heart, is what many consider an 'old school' trainer. Many of the ideas he has are considered outdated - dogs don't see their human masters as the leader of the pack, for one thing. There's a whole new school of thought when it comes to training dogs nowadays - read up on positive reinforcement.

My favourite is Golden Eagle Salmon formula on plus supermarket food mix.  I get mine from Pet Lovers Centre.

The Dog Whisperer episodes shown now on hyppTV are 2009 to 2010.  Caesar already used positive reinforcement on selected dogs only.  His critics who are not employed by any tv station mostly say it is wrong to use threadmill, wrong to put dog in even big cage, wrong to tug the dog leash a dog to correct it, cruel to kick a dog lightly to the side to snap dogs aggression, wrong to walk a dog less than 1 hour a day and cruel to show who is the boss to the dog.

Ceser Milan, bless his heart, is what many consider an 'old school' trainer. Many of the ideas he has are considered outdated - dogs don't see their human masters as the leader of the pack, for one thing. There's a whole new school of thought when it comes to training dogs nowadays - read up on positive reinforcement.

If not buy from pet shop or breeder then get from where? 

the ones i seen in june with parents are from pahang from indian breeder. the rest all don't have.

the pahang man have a batch of puppies and very big space for them to play.
he got show and working dogs. bythe time i went back to check all sold out end out last mth. 
i am also member of 2 facebook group -dog for sale-adoption  and pets for sale in kl and slangor.
unfortunately many are not telling the truth. when i go to see the advertiser, they say the dog sold out. they their best to tell me to take other dogs because fit me and my partner more better. some even told us gsd are more suitable for indians and not us (chinese).

  to tell you the truth, i and my partner am a bit sick of all this groups. 

for about 3k  i might as well get direct from ben sabelle or the pahang family.

1. There really isn't such a thing as 'large boned', 'small boned' dogs. I'm not sure where the usage of this term started, but breed standards never advocated that a breed (any breed really, not just GSDs) had to have 'large bones' to be a good example of the breed. More and more, it's being used by backyard breeders to sell dogs to people looking for large, intimidating dogs, whether because they think this makes them better guard dogs, or maybe because they have small penises and feel the need to compensate by getting a huge boner.

2. Hip dysplasia is a problem for many large breeds that are badly bred. It's tied to genetics, i.e. parents with hip dysplasia will breed puppies with a high chance of the same problem. That's why hip scoring is important - the dogs are x-rayed, have their hip scores taken, and are only bred if the scores meet a certain standard. Again, the problem you see today is by and large due to bad breeding by backyard breeders, who don't take precaution against hip dysplasia. They breed to make a profit, and will breed dogs with bad hips, resulting in puppies with bad hips, that get further bred, resulting in worst hips. That's why hip dysplasia plagues popular breeds the most - Golden Retrievers, GSDs.

How do you avoid this? Get your dog from a breeder who checks the sire's and dame's hips before breeding them. Say no to backyard breeders.

3. Specifically, for GSDs. Hip dysplasia becomes a huge problem in showline dogs due to the effort to breed a dog with an excessively sloping back. You're specifically breeding for dogs that have bad posture - why is it surprising that these dogs end up with hip problems and can't walk properly?

If you still have your heart set on a showline dog, please make sure you ask about the puppy's parents hip scores, and whether they are health tested before being bred. Bear in mind that getting the parents tested cost money, which trickles down to you as a buyer. That's why good pups will cost more, always.But that's the price of having a healthy dog.

Or you could get a cheap, backyard bred dog, and then either dump it when the health problems become apparent, or pay thousands and thousands to a vet to give your puppy a better life.

Hopefully, that's helped a bit in your efforts to get a dog. You have my utmost respect for the amount of research you've been doing. Most people I see simply visit a pet shop and grab the first cute puppy they see without thinking twice.

Treadmill...... Any place or anyone selling this? The manual one will be good...

anyone care to share typical monthly cost and expenses in keeping your gsd?

@kokshun

My dog food expenses are around 300 every month.

Mine RM 180x 2 bag per month for 15kg pack each.
Nutriedge Lamb for All-life stages.

How many dogs do you have?....30 kg for a month is quite alot.... whats your dog work rate?

1 GSD and 1 beagle. GSD take 600 gram/day and beagle 200 gram/day, 1 month about 24kg + 7 days to finish. Haha my beagle overweight d.....tried reduced before, then he throw tantrum at my GSD...mood swing. Pity my GSD.

My GSD seldom seat still in one place. Next street dog bark also his business. 

How much you feeding your GSD?

@kokshun

My dog food expenses are around 300 every month.

My petty female GSD looking for handsome male GSD for matching...! (With MKA)
Pm if your furkid free to...

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I know a farm/kennel in Bukit Beruntung. Maybe you can try there. Good breeds of gsd. One of the females just littered. Can check them out too. Just offering my opinion. Cheers.