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petelowyat
post Jul 14 2014, 11:28 AM

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I am searching German Shepherd like this picture.
If anyone here got puppy for sale that will look like the above, please reply. Thank you.
petelowyat
post Jul 22 2014, 11:35 AM

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QUOTE(evangtee @ Jun 25 2014, 08:29 AM)
Eely, thanks for sharing. Really appreciate it. 
Regarding hurting their joints, don't all bigger dog or  puppies experience the same thing on hard floor?
Are Gsd are more active than Labrador?

The Kois never bite except swallowing fish food pellets. The molly fishes do sort of nibble but you can hardly feel anything as tend like to pull at the hairs on the skin.  Maybe it will be a good idea not to have a pond yet.
So not a good idea to feed rice to gsd? How about Pedigree dog food packs (seen at Aeon supermarkets) and fresh meat pieces from the butcher (like dog bone)?
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i was advised by a vet not to buy from non authorized shops doh.gif
petelowyat
post Jul 22 2014, 11:39 AM

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QUOTE(eelynsoon @ Jul 21 2014, 01:50 PM)
I do have some stocks received today as i ordered in bulk, if anyone would like to get it kindly do pm me.

RM 38 / bottle, fixed price.

Im located in Klang. Its imported from the USA and manufactured there itself.

I understand many vets are selling at a much higher price, i used to get from Dr Yap and he charged me RM 60 / bottle!! SO ridiculous!
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why german shepherd needs it?
petelowyat
post Jul 24 2014, 11:19 AM

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QUOTE(eelynsoon @ Jul 22 2014, 07:23 PM)

Personally pedigree is not a good brand to me it has lotsa artificial colours n bad ingredients in it, never buy it. Whats ur budget like? Or is price not an issue to u? Try natural balance fish formula; grain free salmon, trout and whitefish (if i rmbr d sequence), this is special formula and very good but super expensive. Im currently feeding eagle pro[cool.gif, grain free budget a bit, but better than blackwood.

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Below is what i found when i google -
Eagle Pack Large and Giant Breed Adult
Dry Dog Food Ingredients:
Chicken meal, pork meal, ground brown rice, oatmeal, rice, dehulled barley, chicken fat (preserved with mixed tocopherols), tomato pomace, flaxseed, brewers dried yeast, potassium chloride, vitamins [vitamin E supplement, niacin, vitamin A supplement, ascorbic acid (vitamin C), thiamine mononitrate, d-calcium pantothenate, pyridoxine hydrochloride, riboflavin, vitamin D3 supplement, biotin, vitamin B12 supplement, folic acid], minerals [zinc proteinate, zinc sulfate, iron proteinate, ferrous sulfate, copper sulfate, copper proteinate, manganese proteinate, manganese sulfate, sodium selenite, calcium iodate], taurine, calcium carbonate, mixed tocopherols added to preserve freshness, inulin, glucosamine hydrochloride, dried Enterococcus faecium fermentation product, dried Bacillus licheniformis fermentation product, dried Bacillus subtilis fermentation product, dried Aspergillus oryzae fermentation product, dried Trichoderma reesei fermentation product, dried Rhizopus oryzae fermentation product, dried Lactobacillus acidophilus fermentation product, dried Lactobacillus casei fermentation product, rosemary extract, green tea extract







petelowyat
post Jul 24 2014, 11:29 AM

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these are two people who sell gsd.


Pun Mun Wye (facebook)
Kabir Randhawa (facebook)


kabir has bigger place. anyone wish to contact and meet? afterward, please share info here if possible.

so far i do not have sufficient time as i am stationed in johor!
petelowyat
post Sep 4 2014, 06:34 PM

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QUOTE(eelynsoon @ Jul 26 2014, 10:00 AM)
Mine is eagle pro , i dont think its d same as eagle pack.

Im feeding him the fish formula, herring is one of d ingredients as what i could recall.
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How much it cost you per bag?
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post Sep 4 2014, 07:12 PM

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There were a lot of articles concerning showline and working lines.
Then I came across these comments below (Q and A, after Jean Mueller article):

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My husband and I started out with American line GSDs 4 years ago. I currently have three dogs. They have been shown in the breed ring as well as the obedience ring. My dogs are worked in obedience, agility, herding and fly ball. I've shown two dogs to their championships and continue to put working titles on my dogs. Due to problems with this breed health and structure wise; I began to research and talk to AKC judges, UKC judges, Breeders, and the dog community in general. I have shown other peoples dogs in breed as a way to work with as many American line GSDs as possible. And as part of my on going studies I've opened my home to breeders who have puppies stay for a week or two for socialization and training. I have worked with other herding breeds as well as German line GSDs which I base my comparisons on.

Jean Mueller





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I am really glad to see that someone having been in the GSD breed for four years is so knowledgeable. I wish after 30 years, 50 Champions, professional handler for 20 years, could say I know as much as you. I hope to one day to meet you face to face. You are a disgrace to this wonderful breed. The really bad part of this is you will get a lot of new young people to listen to you. People like you are the ones who will destroy the breed for which it was intended by Mr. Max.

Bob Grady. Breeder for 30 years, Pro Handler for 20 years, and now AKC Judge.

BADBOB (doglover@inreach.com)

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I have received a number of nasty grams on this article. Since you seem to represent the herd I will respond to your email.

To begin with I did not write this article. I mentioned this at the top of the article. If you have only been in the breed 30 years, then I have 5 years more experience than you do. But this is an irrelevant matter. The interesting thing is that the lady that wrote this article figured these things out in 4 years. Does it mean that she is a tad bit smarter than you? After all she came to the correct conclusion after 4 years and you have not figured it out in 30.

The AKC and people like you have misled the general public long enough. The advent of the internet has allowed people like me to break your strangle hold of mis-information on this breed. While I would like to take credit ( in a small way) for educating people about the misgivings of the American GSD, you people accomplish a lot on your own. Don't think that John "Q" public does not look at these goofy animals that you breed (and show) and realize that no animal should look and move the way they look and move.

I find it curious how you can toot your horn about the AKC and your 50 champions. If the AKC was sincerely interested in bettering the breed they would require tattooing puppies (or putting identification chips in them), they would require hip x-rays before two dogs could be bred and they would insist on working titles and temperament tests on a dog as a requirement for a championship. Your arrogance and your stupidity fly in the face of common sense. So don't try and tell me about how people like me have destroyed the breed, go look in the mirror.

So Badbob (or Bob Grady), if you really are an AKC judge, then you are also a fool. Showing GSD's in conformation is 80% political and 20% dogs. AKC shows are about "who you know and not what you have." AKC conformation is the epitomy of the "GOOD OLD BOY NETWORK" at its worst.

I too was an AKC Judge a number of years ago. I judged herding dog trials in the "tending style." When the AKC took their stupid stand against Schutzhund I resigned.

Ed Frawley
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Dear Bob,

I just read your e-mail to Mr. Frawley on the Leerburg web site. I must say that I disagree with your point of view. The woman who wrote the article to which you commented on, makes a compelling argument about the physical state of the "AKC GSD" and the examples that are shown in ACK sanctioned dog shows.

I have owned and trained German Shepherd dogs for approx. 10 years now and I am also a Police K-9 Handler for the Sheriff Dept I work for. One thing I must point, I have never seen a "American " line GSD that was able to perform as a suitable patrol dog. They simply do not have the temperament to function in this role. This situation alone demonstrates the need for a change in the AKC,s outlook toward this breed.

The AKC needs to look at itself more objectively and realize that they have left the ideas of the breed founder in a dust filled closet and have created a very faulty method of determining what a GSD should be.

I would be delighted to discuss this issue with you in detail and share with you what I have learned. You must know that I do not hold my opinions as a result of reading information on Mr. Frawley's web site. I have held my opinion toward the current state of the "American" GSD for quite some time. Since opening my mind about canine breeding, I feel even stronger than ever that your position is in error.

Please feel free to e-mail me at the address below for a civil discussion.

Mark (Blkwid56@aol.com)


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Hi!! Well.... I TOTALLY disagree with what you had to say about the German show lines. "Couldn't fight their way out of a paper bag..." Totally not true. Apparently you have not seen many show dogs. For example.... VA2 Nanto von Dan Alhedy's Hoeve SchH3 IPO3 Kkl1 life. He is a prime example of a show-working dog. He comes from a line of tough dogs. One of the best producing b****es of all time, Catja v. Dan al.... His offspring are excelling S&R and even a police dog in NY who has already had 5 street bites. But hey....so much for a show, VA dog. I agree with you that American GSDs are pieces of sh*t. I think you should restate your opinion of German Show lines once you have more knowledge of them.

Candice

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I do not want to be offensive, but you have a lot to learn. Go out and get some experience and then talk to me in 10 years.

There are a lot of police dogs that have no business being on the street so this argument does not hold water.

Think what you want about these dogs, but the fact is there are sound reasons for people like me (including the German Police) not looking at the show lines.

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petelowyat
post Sep 18 2014, 04:36 PM

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QUOTE(eelynsoon @ Sep 4 2014, 09:28 PM)
Im getting it below rm180 for a 13kg bag. Recently i mixed it with natural balance as i just couldnt resist the result after temporarily given him NB when eagle pro was out of stock then.

Im getting em at a slightly lower than the discounted retail price. I dont think outside is selling any price lower than this.

What about yourself? Which do u feed urs with?
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QUOTE(dishwasher @ Sep 17 2014, 10:26 PM)

Ceser Milan, bless his heart, is what many consider an 'old school' trainer. Many of the ideas he has are considered outdated - dogs don't see their human masters as the leader of the pack, for one thing. There's a whole new school of thought when it comes to training dogs nowadays - read up on positive reinforcement.
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The Dog Whisperer episodes shown now on hyppTV are 2009 to 2010. Caesar already used positive reinforcement on selected dogs only. His critics who are not employed by any tv station mostly say it is wrong to use threadmill, wrong to put dog in even big cage, wrong to tug the dog leash a dog to correct it, cruel to kick a dog lightly to the side to snap dogs aggression, wrong to walk a dog less than 1 hour a day and cruel to show who is the boss to the dog.


 

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