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evangtee
post Jun 4 2014, 02:04 PM

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QUOTE(eelynsoon @ Mar 3 2014, 12:21 AM)
Isn't it the small ones which r red in colour? Do y know ticks can crawl? Ha ha ha, I saw one crawled up to the wall of my room and another big fat one crawled up to the ceiling in my toilet, I'm unable to kill that coz it has already crawled too high up.

Frontline is safe as far as I'm concern. So no problem even if the pup licks it but try not to allow him lick immediately after u spray. It should somehow but toxic but it should be the safest for pups.

Make sure u spray it on the scalp , not on the hair.

Yea u try with Clorox n see if it helps for your floor, if it doesn't then u gotta get some bayticol n spray at d corners or the place where u found the ticks.
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Eely, My brother is getting our house ready for a german shepherd puppy hopefully soon. So we are making our home gsd friendly. I read about the ticks so I was thinking if it is better to tile up the front place with grooved non slip type or get carpet grass or artificial grass for the front part?
What about garden pond 10feet by 6 feet)? Do you think the dog will sit in it or just drink? At this moment, we can still move it if not safe for the dog.


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post Jun 11 2014, 01:41 PM

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QUOTE(eelynsoon @ Jun 8 2014, 04:05 PM)
Ermmm.... Usually i keep my pups in the house until he is big enough to stay outside within the porch compound.

I dont know if pond is a good idea not as they might be too naughty n might even get drowned if they were to jump into it, but as we all know dogs can swim however im not too sure with pups i have no experience with ponds. Grasses or gardens are good for them at least it will help them strengthen their joints n muscles by running on a grass area instead of slippery tiles. Tiles r not a good choice for pups especially gsd. Coz their hind legs especially showline might cause hips displacia.
Honestly speaking i never had such a naughty dog until i had this gsd pup, so its my first challenge in my whole life experience so far. But its under controlled and i love him for who he is, he is such a naughty but protective lovely dog. He will walk with me everywhere i go n is quite obedient when i bring him out. When i wash my car or clean d porch he will sit just next to me n watch me do work. Unfortunately he has some digestive problem, which is quite common in gsd's i think or maybe my batch is just the unlucky one.
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Eely, So natural/artificial grass is more suitable than floor tiles?
The pond is 10 x 6 feet and 1 ft deep. The filterpump is concealed and water flowing back through a 4ft high seahorse statue. Small koi, plecos and molly fish inside. No rocks except in corner only.

For the toilet, my brother want to build in the corner of the front yard, a 4 x 3 feet and 6 inch high mosaic section for the gsd to poo there with a covered drainage to clean afterwards with water hose. Good idea or impossible for gsd to be trained?
Do you think sending the dog to a training school is a good idea?
Is it the dried food that affect gsd digestive system?
I read about some owners claiming success by using cockroach (4 week lasting spay) to prevent ticks flea and cockroach from entering their homes. This is assuming the dog are prevented from entering inside the home. smile.gif



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post Jun 25 2014, 08:29 AM

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QUOTE(eelynsoon @ Jun 21 2014, 12:27 PM)
Yes of coz grass is definitely a better choice, but i would prefer natural grasses as they r softer. According to my friend, it does helps strengthen the hips n joints of our gsd's by running n playing on a soil ground, bcz its soft and wont hurt their joints growth with them often stomping on a hard surface. Tiles is a no no bcz it is slippery n puppies love to run around n that will hurt every joints of theirs.

As for the pond, im only afraid one thing, pups might tend to jump into it. And what happens next? They do not know how to come up back. Either d pup will bite all d fishes in it or d fishes will bite ur pup. Does koi bites btw?

I have a fren who has a waterfall pond n his pup often climbed onto it n not knowing howto climb up back. But his has no fish. Only waterfall. Moreover i bliv d pup will be very attracted to the fishes in d pond as they do not know what r those. They would be very eager to find out those moving fishes.

Well abt digestive disorder i think gsd is very prone to such isses from the read up on google. Especially twisting of the stomach/intestine. And that could cause death. But i dont know why, perhaps its genetic, or its js d breed itself. So far its mostly common on gsd, as thats what mentioned there. But my gsd is soft stools.... Arrgghh!! Lau sai and soft stools.... Dunno what else can i do. I tred changing the diet to raw n only grain free food as he totally cabbot consume rice. U can see almos immediate effect whenever he consumes rice eg; if i give him on d night for dinner n the very next morning my whole house will be fille with patches of his diarrhea. Anyone here has similar experience? I been to the vets n i was told its just in his gene, they conclude it as ibs, epi, digestive disorder. No giardiasis no infection ntg. N was told to try out with enzymes...

I hve no issues for my labradors, they r doin fine. And they can eat whatever they like, without having any issues.
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Eely, thanks for sharing. Really appreciate it.
Regarding hurting their joints, don't all bigger dog or puppies experience the same thing on hard floor?
Are Gsd are more active than Labrador?

The Kois never bite except swallowing fish food pellets. The molly fishes do sort of nibble but you can hardly feel anything as tend like to pull at the hairs on the skin. Maybe it will be a good idea not to have a pond yet.


So not a good idea to feed rice to gsd? How about Pedigree dog food packs (seen at Aeon supermarkets) and fresh meat pieces from the butcher (like dog bone)?




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post Aug 5 2014, 10:22 AM

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QUOTE(eelynsoon @ Jul 22 2014, 07:23 PM)
Yes hard flooring applies to all large breed pups. It will have the tendencies to hurt their joints but at d same time not recommended to supplement them wkth calcium.

Gsd is definitely more active than labradors .

Personally pedigree is not a good brand to me it has lotsa artificial colours n bad ingredients in it, never buy it. Whats ur budget like? Or is price not an issue to u? Try natural balance fish formula; grain free salmon, trout and whitefish (if i rmbr d sequence), this is special formula and very good but super expensive. Im currently feeding eagle pro, grain free budget a bit, but better than blackwood.

Blckwood i tried but doesnt seem too good, d fur a bit dull n it caused my dogs hair to drop more. Well dogs can eat rice but my gsd cannot due to his digestive disorder. Pity him.. His pancreas is unable to produce sufficient enzymes to metabolize and digest d food so im feeding him with lypex.

Fresh raw meats r good for them, remember their ancestors n wild animals they consume raw fresh meat. I do ovassionally give then raw meat whenever possible in fact its even better than dry dog food. If u r able to do so u can feed him with raw beef everyday. For snacks i buy the big big bones as a reward for them they love it lots.
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Eely, thanks again. For a while, I thought you left lowyat. biggrin.gif

Your gsd only is allergic to rice or are all gsd the same?

I guess having a good vet is crucial to owning a healthy gsd in the long run. Would you own a gsd again if you had a choice in the future?
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post Aug 5 2014, 10:32 AM

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QUOTE(JA10 @ Jul 24 2014, 02:49 AM)
Any GSD puppies for sale? I'm looking for one. Should I get the one with MKA? Some GSD's are priced at 3k to 4k in Mudah and some are 1.4k above. Both claim they have MKA and microchip. Please advice. Thanks
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I seen many selling around rm2000. Only show dogs fetch more.
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post Aug 27 2014, 03:06 PM

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QUOTE(eelynsoon @ Aug 23 2014, 01:19 AM)
Haha sorry been pretty busy lately.

Well, i believe it is only my gsd having this issue as he has EPI - in short his pancreas is not fuctioning well to produce enzymes for digestion of food.

My choices of dogs would mainly be gsd's and labradors .
If i could own a tiger or even a tibetan mastiff, i'd love to try that as well. tongue.gif

I love big big dogs! But not rottweilers. Hehe.
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Eely, We still looking or German Shepherds puppy. Some we seen turned out not so the way we liked especially the tan coloring. Some seems very pale whereas some are rich almost burnt orange. Many breeders seem to be based far away like Pahang and Kuantan which are asking to send a deposit first based on facebook pictures and then pay balance upon delivery.
Any suggestions to look for one in Selangor/KL?

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post Aug 29 2014, 09:18 AM

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QUOTE(eelynsoon @ Aug 27 2014, 08:06 PM)
Whixh type of gsd r u looking for? Show line work line? For workline i think someone here is a breeder but i cant recall his nick, u will have to check from previous posts.

For show line , there r many but how reliable im not too sure and i do not know of any good ones so far.

I think there is one which i remember seeing from previous posts , located in kl. my advise is make sure u see d pup personally before deciding.

Go over and choose urself rather than seeing it from d pics. I learnt from my mistakes though. My gsd unfortunately doesnt have his testicles descended, so will have to go for surgery to locate and remove em. And as for my batch, there has been couple of health problems with d pups. It was quite disappointed to experience this actually.
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Hi Eely,
Do you mind telling me what you mean your German Shepherd testicles not descended?
Show lines (like the ones shown above) not good to buy? Look as if it has sloping hind legs like Dobermans and Bull Terrier.
My family likes the look and color presentation of the photos, Incrediblehulk and Hqdc posted above, but two 2-3 months old gsd (at pet shop) I seen have little grey faded tan coloring around the legs only and mostly black body.
Actually it is not important if its showline or working type as long as it is healthy and has better hair+fur colors like in the photos above.

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post Sep 6 2014, 05:04 PM

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QUOTE(dishwasher @ Aug 29 2014, 10:01 AM)
The one big difference between show lines and working lines is the roached back. A quick google will give you a bunch of sites with more info, but from a personal point of view, show lines are a horror. I've seen GSDs with backs so curved that they can't walk properly. They drag their hind legs along because it simply isn't at the correct angle for locomotion, and it pains my heart to see such a beautiful breed end up like this.

Regarding the undescended testicles - this happens in dogs, and can be related to genetics. Basically the testicles fail to 'drop' into the scrotum and remain inside the dog's abdomen. When this happens there is a high chance the undescended testicles will develop into cancer, so surgery to remove them is highly recommended.
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Thanks for explaining so nicely. I shall be looking out during our search.
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Elynsoon, House to Live, 100plus, peteloyat and other gsd owners:

what do you think of this gsd below? Asking price is 2500 ringgit.





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post Sep 10 2014, 02:23 PM

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QUOTE(dishwasher @ Sep 7 2014, 10:48 AM)
Pictures can only tell you so much. Can you view the parents? Do the parents have a health record you can check? And dear god, the image is from mudah.com.
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The pup is from a pet shop in Klang. They advertised as father being german imported, mka cert and first vaccination given. No i have not ask to check.

How old should the puppy be maximum? I seen some 11 months old.









QUOTE(eelynsoon @ Sep 7 2014, 03:39 PM)
It doesnt looks good to me. Im not an expert but i think the postural structure isnt too good..
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What do you mean about his postural structure?








QUOTE(100plus2 @ Sep 7 2014, 08:14 PM)
Buying from other sources can still bring certain problems  sad.gif I know one guy who have an italian showline and it has no problems healthwise compared to his other dog which is not showline.

What has mudah got to do with the seller? It is just a place to advertise.
Last night I was in touch with Bensabelle Gsd. Their coming soon puppies are around rm4k.






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post Sep 16 2014, 07:15 AM

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QUOTE(muu85 @ Sep 15 2014, 10:46 AM)
Hi Evangtee,
You have a good start by contacting Bensabella (as per my finding)Bensabella are been highly recommended by the old time Sifu in this forum.  If not mistaken their GSD are from show line. Made sure that you find/invest in a good dog kennel/farm because this GSD breed popular with hip dyslexia (HD). Do you mind to share Bensabella contact number? you can PM me. Thanks.
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I have been reading that many large boned dogs can develop hips dyslexia. Confusing..






QUOTE(HouseToLive @ Sep 15 2014, 09:51 PM)
Hi mind sharing Bensabella's contact with me too once u have it? Pls pm Tq smile.gif
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post Sep 17 2014, 01:08 PM

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Is it a good idea to get a showline cross with a working line?
Generally speaking, what is the best prevention against hip dysplasia?


So far, none of the private people (3 persons with working line) we visited were interested in showing health certificates although they advertised they had. Only one shop did. But that pup is now 11 months old.

These are latest contenders. We certainly not going to rush as it is going to be part of our family pack. A new baby?
They range from rm2500 to rm4000
I have not included Bensabelle puppies as they told me a new batch is coming soon.


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post Sep 23 2014, 09:01 AM

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QUOTE(dishwasher @ Sep 16 2014, 11:44 AM)
1. There really isn't such a thing as 'large boned', 'small boned' dogs. I'm not sure where the usage of this term started, but breed standards never advocated that a breed (any breed really, not just GSDs) had to have 'large bones' to be a good example of the breed. More and more, it's being used by backyard breeders to sell dogs to people looking for large, intimidating dogs, whether because they think this makes them better guard dogs, or maybe because they have small penises and feel the need to compensate by getting a huge boner.

2. Hip dysplasia is a problem for many large breeds that are badly bred. It's tied to genetics, i.e. parents with hip dysplasia will breed puppies with a high chance of the same problem. That's why hip scoring is important - the dogs are x-rayed, have their hip scores taken, and are only bred if the scores meet a certain standard. Again, the problem you see today is by and large due to bad breeding by backyard breeders, who don't take precaution against hip dysplasia. They breed to make a profit, and will breed dogs with bad hips, resulting in puppies with bad hips, that get further bred, resulting in worst hips. That's why hip dysplasia plagues popular breeds the most - Golden Retrievers, GSDs.

How do you avoid this? Get your dog from a breeder who checks the sire's and dame's hips before breeding them. Say no to backyard breeders.

3. Specifically, for GSDs. Hip dysplasia becomes a huge problem in showline dogs due to the effort to breed a dog with an excessively sloping back. You're specifically breeding for dogs that have bad posture - why is it surprising that these dogs end up with hip problems and can't walk properly?

If you still have your heart set on a showline dog, please make sure you ask about the puppy's parents hip scores, and whether they are health tested before being bred. Bear in mind that getting the parents tested cost money, which trickles down to you as a buyer. That's why good pups will cost more, always.But that's the price of having a healthy dog.

Or you could get a cheap, backyard bred dog, and then either dump it when the health problems become apparent, or pay thousands and thousands to a vet to give your puppy a better life.

Hopefully, that's helped a bit in your efforts to get a dog. You have my utmost respect for the amount of research you've been doing. Most people I see simply visit a pet shop and grab the first cute puppy they see without thinking twice.
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I seemed to have missed this reply! Thanks. My family and I are still looking around for the right puppy for us. We have been warned about some dealers not selling pure gsd.
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post Nov 23 2014, 07:32 AM

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QUOTE(dishwasher @ Nov 20 2014, 01:18 AM)


Beyond that, some of Cesar's ideas/methods are proven to be wrong. For one, dogs don't see humans as part of their pack, and they sure as hell aren't 'asserting their dominance' over you when they don't listen to you. Hitting a dog is just going to make it wary of you. Hitting a dog when it growls at another dog will probably make it think 'oh, when another dog appears, my master hits me. I must growl at the dog and chase it away'.



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Hi Dishwasher,

What do dogs see us as? I read that positive reinforcement do not work with many aggressive animals.
So what do you propose is the right method for the situation you mentioned here?
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post Dec 8 2014, 12:28 PM

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QUOTE(dishwasher @ Nov 23 2014, 10:15 AM)
Dogs see us as giant treat dispensers. And a source of comfort and protection. They may even see us as 'leader', but that's completely different as considering us 'part of their pack'. They know very well we're not dogs.

Positive reinforcement should work for most dogs. Some trainers advocate 100% positive reinforcement, but personally, I think there is value to teaching a dog 'no means no'. Ultimately, each dog is going to be different and require different methods. What matters is correct usage. Even shock collars have a place in dog training - if used correctly it can give wonderful results. If you shock the dog for no good reason tho, you're going to end up with a fear reactive dog.

I like Emily Larlham (kikopup on youtube). Her dogs are incredibly well trained, and she's 100% positive reinforcement if I'm not mistaken.
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Thanks dishwasher! If I was Cesar Millan, I would believed he is the leader of the pack when he is around so many dogs in his place. But I think in the house it would be more like the dog being a very young child. Am I wrong?

I seen Kikopup. It looked as if giving incentive/bribes (foodbits) is a kinder way to train dogs? It look to me that it will work on puppies and non aggressive dogs.



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