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1ullaby
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Apr 7 2022, 11:36 AM
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For our high rise sinking fund is primarily used for facade maintenance, and in extraordinary cases for the lifts if something really bad happen. So I thought strata landed same?
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MeToo
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Apr 7 2022, 11:37 AM
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QUOTE(1ullaby @ Apr 7 2022, 11:34 AM) Really? Confirm 100%? Why not, dang. So what’s the sinking fund for Maintenance of "common facilities". Although TA is running their landed strata as a "high rise", they are only using it in a restrictive way, while not giving any "highrise" benefits to owners. Overall TA's handling of landed strata i would give them a D-, Eco is handling it so much better. From early feedback, G257 is also on par with Eco on their handling. Tropicana seriously dropped the ball on this. This post has been edited by MeToo: Apr 7 2022, 11:39 AM
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1ullaby
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Apr 7 2022, 11:38 AM
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QUOTE(MeToo @ Apr 7 2022, 11:37 AM) Maintenance of "common facilities". Like what? I thought that’s already covered monthly using maintenance fees?
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1ullaby
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Apr 7 2022, 11:41 AM
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QUOTE(MeToo @ Apr 7 2022, 11:37 AM) Maintenance of "common facilities". Although TA is running their landed strata as a "high rise", they are only using it in a restrictive way, while not giving any "highrise" benefits to owners. Overall TA's handling of landed strata i would give them a D-, Eco is handling it so much better. From early feedback, G257 is also on par with Eco on their handling. Tropicana seriously dropped the ball on this. It’s handed over to jmb right? I don’t care about Tropicana handling, coz I’ve seen so much worst. Important is the jmb I think your jmb should look into sinking fund for facade maintenance.
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MeToo
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Apr 7 2022, 11:51 AM
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QUOTE(1ullaby @ Apr 7 2022, 11:41 AM) It’s handed over to jmb right? I don’t care about Tropicana handling, coz I’ve seen so much worst. Important is the jmb I think your jmb should look into sinking fund for facade maintenance. Cheria is not handed over to JMB, Tropicana rtefuse to have a JMB, they want to continue collecting the funds themselves until MC is set up.
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1ullaby
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Apr 7 2022, 12:02 PM
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QUOTE(MeToo @ Apr 7 2022, 11:51 AM) Cheria is not handed over to JMB, Tropicana rtefuse to have a JMB, they want to continue collecting the funds themselves until MC is set up. Wow it’s been awhile. What’s preventing mc from forming?
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1ullaby
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Apr 7 2022, 12:04 PM
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If Tropicana refuse to convene agm to form jmb, then definitely something wrong with them
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BullishBear
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Apr 7 2022, 12:08 PM
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QUOTE(1ullaby @ Apr 7 2022, 11:41 AM) It’s handed over to jmb right? I don’t care about Tropicana handling, coz I’ve seen so much worst. Important is the jmb I think your jmb should look into sinking fund for facade maintenance. you should read how landed strata different with high rise strata. For landed strata, maintenance fees or sinking fund will not cover any damage or wear and tear for roof & facade. Even fire insurance need to pay individually.
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1ullaby
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Apr 7 2022, 12:13 PM
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QUOTE(BullishBear @ Apr 7 2022, 12:08 PM) you should read how landed strata different with high rise strata. For landed strata, maintenance fees or sinking fund will not cover any damage or wear and tear for roof & facade. Even fire insurance need to pay individually. Understood. So it bears the question, what is the sinking fund for? Because 10% from every owner in the course of 10 years is a lot of money. What is usually the proposed purpose, kindly enlighten
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Clueless07
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Apr 7 2022, 12:28 PM
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i would thought the sinking fund is used to a major, but not frequent type of upkeep. Eg resurface the road, replace play ground facilities, upgrade boom gate etc
while maintenance fees are the general cleaning, painting which are done regularly.
and yes- for landed strata- maintenance and up keep of the facade is not the JMB/MC's responsibility. house owner is responsible.
infact, you are not allowed to change color as well, and it is too bad condition vs other houses, you could be instructed to make good - right?
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1ullaby
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Apr 7 2022, 12:36 PM
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QUOTE(Clueless07 @ Apr 7 2022, 12:28 PM) i would thought the sinking fund is used to a major, but not frequent type of upkeep. Eg resurface the road, replace play ground facilities, upgrade boom gate etc while maintenance fees are the general cleaning, painting which are done regularly. and yes- for landed strata- maintenance and up keep of the facade is not the JMB/MC's responsibility. house owner is responsible. infact, you are not allowed to change color as well, and it is too bad condition vs other houses, you could be instructed to make good - right? Noted, will see what happens later. Agree for road resurfacing that probably need quite a big sum. But can’t say I’m not disappointed that facade does not fall under mcs scope. Because imagine a fresh coat of paint for every house later on, how nice the whole phase would look.
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Clueless07
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Apr 7 2022, 12:46 PM
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well.... if it is maintain by MC... it will increase the maintenance cost. then some people will say wah 600 RM crazy expensive.
and furthermore, some will say the paint still good, can last 10 years why wanna repaint every 5 years.
it is never ending one.
money come from your pocket wo.
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1ullaby
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Apr 7 2022, 12:54 PM
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Not maintenance fees, sinking fund. From what I see 10% is a lot of money. But I admit I have no idea of the costing for road work. But road works are case to case basis, since it’s not heavy usage, I see repainting as more value adding exercise for jmb to pursue
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1ullaby
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Apr 7 2022, 12:57 PM
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If we encourage the uniformity of the facade, at the same time don’t encourage it’s maintenance, in my view, what’s the point? Eventually 20 years down it will look run down anyways
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1ullaby
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Apr 7 2022, 01:09 PM
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Btw the period for the repainting works, vote la…
Attend agm and vote on it whether push it to next year or what, or decide that the paint work still good, no agenda langsung.
Again need DPC owners for some guidance. Coz I think MC will be formed by all first timer strata landed, and I’m not sure how big a help the property management co would be.
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BullishBear
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Apr 7 2022, 02:40 PM
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QUOTE(1ullaby @ Apr 7 2022, 01:09 PM) Btw the period for the repainting works, vote la… Attend agm and vote on it whether push it to next year or what, or decide that the paint work still good, no agenda langsung. Again need DPC owners for some guidance. Coz I think MC will be formed by all first timer strata landed, and I’m not sure how big a help the property management co would be. My experience 1st AGM in 2019 only 10% entitle to attend, another 90% are defaulter. only half of (10%) entitled resident attended the AGM. The rest just ignore or event don't know existent of JMB. 2nd AGM in 2021 (no AGM on 2020 because of MCO) 20% attended because its online AGM. hahaha....
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MeToo
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Apr 7 2022, 02:44 PM
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QUOTE(BullishBear @ Apr 7 2022, 02:40 PM) My experience 1st AGM in 2019 only 10% entitle to attend, another 90% are defaulter. only half of (10%) entitled resident attended the AGM. The rest just ignore or event don't know existent of JMB. 2nd AGM in 2021 (no AGM on 2020 because of MCO) 20% attended because its online AGM. hahaha.... Good lor, 5% of the owners can make decision, the rest not happy is padan muka
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dan22_15
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Apr 7 2022, 06:33 PM
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QUOTE(1ullaby @ Apr 6 2022, 10:39 PM) Can't deny that individual title fenced and guarded is really as close as it gets to strata gated and guarded. How well maintained is your playground and gardens? Coz since you don't own the common ground, you are depending on the local council's willingness to put in a beneficial schedule for the area though. Also - I would be wary of the road maintenance. Local council seems to be more hardworking in maintaining roads that is not fenced up, easier for them? I don't know. This is my perception. Like Esplanad Bukit Jalil landed, internally the roads are terrible man. Whereas my mum's old taman gets a nice paved road everytime close to election. For strata, since we own common ground, I should think the road will be maintained by the JMB yes? DPC owners please comment on this. Also >> this "Legally cannot stop residents from entering but those who didn't pay". Phase with alot of investors will suffer Yup - that is the more “troublesome” part. Depend on Perbandaran. Not awesome, always need to complain but after complain usually get better a bit then need to complain again. So the cycle goes…
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dan22_15
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Apr 7 2022, 06:33 PM
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QUOTE(e-lite @ Apr 6 2022, 08:58 PM) Harlo. RA and JMB is not the same Ok… frankly not very sure… you all can fit the shoe where correct. Above is just how I am aware they operate at my non-involvement level This post has been edited by dan22_15: Apr 7 2022, 06:37 PM
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1ullaby
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Apr 7 2022, 09:12 PM
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QUOTE(dan22_15 @ Apr 7 2022, 06:33 PM) Yup - that is the more “troublesome” part. Depend on Perbandaran. Not awesome, always need to complain but after complain usually get better a bit then need to complain again. So the cycle goes… Haha, but as long as you're happy staying there, who cares if its individual or strata. I sense you're pretty happy with your community
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