Actually it boils down to how many units per phase. Gemala has 110+ units vs Cheria 270+ units to share the maintenance cost for security and landscaping. So it’s not really a direct semid vs terrace comparison per se.

Btw, these maintenance fees covers the maintenance for your own house facade too under strata title. All houses facade maintained adds value to the entire phase, it’s really a long term benefit to us even though we’re paying monthly. In 10 years time we can relook at the house value again.

The same argument goes "got money buy Porsche but no money pump ron97".

I guess you should know the hidden costs of buying a stratafied property. If can't afford the maintenance fee, better look for individual title.

This post has been edited by deric88: Apr 6 2022, 02:38 PM

If Gemala is at 450 per month, superlink individual title I roughly estimate la 150 per month, extra 300 per month for strata - buyers judge lo is it worth it for better security and maintenance.

Same area individual title got ijm, nearby got kota kemuning and alam impian, further away got glenmarie cove

If not mistaken, there are no legal consequences if you don't pay maintenance fee for individual title?

yup - for individual title, you are not bound to the rules set by RA

RA cannot prevent you from entering to your property. And also during the SnP, you did not sign up the Deeds of Mutual Covenet... so not bound the rules.

both got pro and cons la.

Yeah, in fact fencing up individual titled homes is a legal grey area.

I remembered last time alam impian developer cannot officially fence up nor setup security post, can only assist the residences behind to do all these. I wonder how IJM does it, or maybe rules changed now?

Can fence up with individual title. You just need to setup a temp JMB then apply with the Majilis Kuala Langat. All the IJM projects here the same and IJM itself help with the process/documentation - so when you get the keys/handover, most of the IJM projects already fenced up with the guard post. After that usually IJM handover to the JMB to manage already (if they wish to takeover early)

Legally cannot stop residents from entering but those who didn't pay, they need to register. Outside of that, need to follow the other rules/guidelines in place - etc reno have timing. But those who didn't support the security fees, when you sell your house, lawyer need to clear any balance fees with the JMB to complete the sale as the JMB is a registered entity. I was surprised but apparently this is the case as shared by my JMB (seems weird got such thing but i take the word of my JMB)

Frankly after this experience here I am wondering how much more beneficial strata is. Seems you just need the right community to run your JMB, you can really get close to what a strata can offer without all the other downsides. But that is also not a given to find a strong JMB

And btw - my JMB reduce fees 30% after 2 yrs... so, I can say, its possible to reduce the fee once your JMB take over.

This post has been edited by dan22_15: Apr 6 2022, 08:49 PM

Harlo. RA and JMB is not the same

Yeah. RA is just registered with ROS. It is just a legal “club” which authorized to hold account for money but without much power.

I doubt u need RA approval to sell the property.

Can't deny that individual title fenced and guarded is really as close as it gets to strata gated and guarded.

How well maintained is your playground and gardens? Coz since you don't own the common ground, you are depending on the local council's willingness to put in a beneficial schedule for the area though.

Also - I would be wary of the road maintenance. Local council seems to be more hardworking in maintaining roads that is not fenced up, easier for them? I don't know. This is my perception. Like Esplanad Bukit Jalil landed, internally the roads are terrible man. Whereas my mum's old taman gets a nice paved road everytime close to election.

For strata, since we own common ground, I should think the road will be maintained by the JMB yes? DPC owners please comment on this.

Also >> this "Legally cannot stop residents from entering but those who didn't pay". Phase with alot of investors will suffer

RA no power to stop u to sell your property. In fact normally RA will still be form in strata property to become 'opposition' for JMB.
this is my personal experience when i become one of JMB members for 2 years hahaha..

RA will be form by those who lose election to be JMB and normally they are hardcore residence who only talk cock everyday and don't know how to work.

Lol....

well RA for individual title are ok la, as least they put effort together to make good the taman. They put in effort without reward, and need to put up with various behaviour and demand of resident.


As for Strata title... well- just learn it s being set up to go against JMB
suppose ur experience with them is rather frustrating eh. All talk and condem only. but in other way- it maintain a good check and balance right. Many JMB ain't doing their job well and they are holding a large sum of fund

True, for individual title I believe we need RA as the only associate to represent resident voice and demand.
RA for individual title will play role just like JMB for strata but with limited power.

Individual house facade is NOT maintained by these funds...

TA all phases are strata bro

Major difference between RA and MC/JMB.

RA cannot stop public from going into the fenced up housing "compound" as its essentially public roads.

MC/JMB can stop non-residents from entering the entire compound as its Private Land.

I'm not discussing whether TA is strata or not.

I'm just saying you are mistaken when you say maintenance funds are used to maintain our house's facade. Its not.

Really? Confirm 100%?
Why not, dang. So what’s the sinking fund for

For our high rise sinking fund is primarily used for facade maintenance, and in extraordinary cases for the lifts if something really bad happen. So I thought strata landed same?

Maintenance of "common facilities".

Although TA is running their landed strata as a "high rise", they are only using it in a restrictive way, while not giving any "highrise" benefits to owners.

Overall TA's handling of landed strata i would give them a D-, Eco is handling it so much better. From early feedback, G257 is also on par with Eco on their handling. Tropicana seriously dropped the ball on this.

This post has been edited by MeToo: Apr 7 2022, 11:39 AM