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dasecret
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Nov 2 2016, 05:51 PM
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QUOTE(AIYH @ Nov 2 2016, 05:39 PM) Now I understand  Only their VP has balance sheet (statement of financial position right?). FP really lack that But the 'reserve' info can't be obtained/deduced from P&L or comprehensive income or cash flow statement? Please share when you managed to do so, I want to learn that kungfu Things to consider - - P&L and cashflow statement only show realised gain/loss - No point looking at OCI unlike Tabung Haji as they do not mark-to-market their investments, everything kept at cost unless they do impairment (in the case last year on FGV) - For ASB and ASW, they don't even disclosed all holdings; and they also do not show % of market value, only book value. So want to see which holding is losing money also cannot
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TSAIYH
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Nov 2 2016, 06:02 PM
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QUOTE(dasecret @ Nov 2 2016, 05:51 PM) Please share when you managed to do so, I want to learn that kungfu Things to consider - - P&L and cashflow statement only show realised gain/loss - No point looking at OCI unlike Tabung Haji as they do not mark-to-market their investments, everything kept at cost unless they do impairment (in the case last year on FGV) - For ASB and ASW, they don't even disclosed all holdings; and they also do not show % of market value, only book value. So want to see which holding is losing money also cannot I am an account noobie  If I know that, I won't be asking such beginner question  Different funds can have different reporting patterns? I thought the whole company products should have consistent financial reporting between them?
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spiderman17
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Nov 2 2016, 06:05 PM
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Just wondering...what's the % invested (based on investable amount) among regulars here? Anyone building/hoarding war chest? If you have like 60-80% uninvested, how would you plan your DCA/VCA ? Spread over 2 years?
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dasecret
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Nov 2 2016, 06:16 PM
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QUOTE(AIYH @ Nov 2 2016, 06:02 PM) I am an account noobie  If I know that, I won't be asking such beginner question  Different funds can have different reporting patterns? I thought the whole company products should have consistent financial reporting between them? Why their disclosure different is not something I can answer you. I just dissect information available to me as general public. They are special, don't follow accounting standards as allowed by SC It's actually fascinating to read and try to figure out the missing pieces in the puzzle. But I'm stuck, because there's simply not enough puzzle pieces to even see an overall picture
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Ramjade
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Nov 2 2016, 06:19 PM
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QUOTE(spiderman17 @ Nov 2 2016, 06:05 PM) Just wondering...what's the % invested (based on investable amount) among regulars here? Anyone building/hoarding war chest? If you have like 60-80% uninvested, how would you plan your DCA/VCA ? Spread over 2 years? I will small lump sum whenever windows of opportunity present itself. If big window of opportunity (like US election result), I will lump sum. If you have lump sum, can take opportunity of US election results. But don't listen to me.
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Avangelice
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Nov 2 2016, 06:46 PM
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AIYH so far anyone reported any posts this noon since we open up the topic of shaddy ASx again lol
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TSAIYH
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Nov 2 2016, 06:59 PM
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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Nov 2 2016, 06:46 PM) AIYH so far anyone reported any posts this noon since we open up the topic of shaddy ASx again lol No one wo  But I am ok with it  Different people with different background assess each investment with different perspective based on different risk appetite. Don't quarrel over it la
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nexona88
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Nov 2 2016, 07:21 PM
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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Nov 2 2016, 06:46 PM) AIYH so far anyone reported any posts this noon since we open up the topic of shaddy ASx again lol QUOTE(AIYH @ Nov 2 2016, 06:59 PM) No one wo  But I am ok with it  Different people with different background assess each investment with different perspective based on different risk appetite. Don't quarrel over it la  want me to go on report spree
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Avangelice
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Nov 2 2016, 07:34 PM
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Nov 2 2016, 07:21 PM) no thanks boss. way too many drama already. even pink spider lari. where is he btw
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TSAIYH
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Nov 2 2016, 07:42 PM
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Nov 2 2016, 07:21 PM) eh eh jangan kacau la  be humble and share your idea and experience to newbie like me la  This is not fb, don't spam report please QUOTE(Avangelice @ Nov 2 2016, 07:34 PM) no thanks boss. way too many drama already. even pink spider lari. where is he btw He will be back anytime dont worry
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prince_mk
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Nov 2 2016, 07:47 PM
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what do you guys topup this week ?
Ponzi 1 and Ponzi 2 only ?
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Ramjade
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Nov 2 2016, 07:50 PM
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QUOTE(prince_mk @ Nov 2 2016, 07:47 PM) what do you guys topup this week ? Ponzi 1 and Ponzi 2 only ? This week: Ponzi 2, Ta Global Tech, Amasia. KGF, Eastspring, tomorrow. Will add more amasia tomorrow. This post has been edited by Ramjade: Nov 2 2016, 08:02 PM
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puchongite
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Nov 2 2016, 07:50 PM
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QUOTE(prince_mk @ Nov 2 2016, 07:47 PM) what do you guys topup this week ? Ponzi 1 and Ponzi 2 only ? Laosai not stopped yet. You want top up so fast ?
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TSAIYH
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Nov 2 2016, 07:52 PM
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QUOTE(puchongite @ Nov 2 2016, 07:50 PM) Laosai not stopped yet. You want top up so fast ? Both Ponzi 1 and 2 has turning point NAV @ 31st October  AmAsia rising
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Ramjade
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Nov 2 2016, 07:54 PM
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QUOTE(puchongite @ Nov 2 2016, 07:50 PM) Laosai not stopped yet. You want top up so fast ? Topup now. Keep some more for later.  By the time you want to topup, stop liao (happen few times to me already). Want to topup, decide to wait, see see next day increase. QUOTE(AIYH @ Nov 2 2016, 07:52 PM) Both Ponzi 1 and 2 has turning point NAV @ 31st October  AmAsia rising  AmAsia should be affected too today.  hopefully I am right. This post has been edited by Ramjade: Nov 2 2016, 07:56 PM
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puchongite
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Nov 2 2016, 07:56 PM
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QUOTE(AIYH @ Nov 2 2016, 07:52 PM) Both Ponzi 1 and 2 has turning point NAV @ 31st October  AmAsia rising  Today's market is still red in asia and europe (so far). For me there is still no light in the tunnel.
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Avangelice
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Nov 2 2016, 07:56 PM
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QUOTE(prince_mk @ Nov 2 2016, 07:47 PM) what do you guys topup this week ? Ponzi 1 and Ponzi 2 only ? TA. RHB AIF, AmAsia.
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Avangelice
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Nov 2 2016, 07:58 PM
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by the way. nobody still going to invest in China? I'm still waiting for the day to jump on the escalator
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TSAIYH
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Nov 2 2016, 07:59 PM
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No matter what, I will patiently wait for the monthly date for me to DCA  Keep calm and DCA like nothing is happening
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nexona88
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Nov 2 2016, 08:26 PM
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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Nov 2 2016, 07:34 PM) no thanks boss. way too many drama already. even pink spider lari. where is he btw Hahah jk only  Guess he very busy with work... QUOTE(AIYH @ Nov 2 2016, 07:42 PM) eh eh jangan kacau la  be humble and share your idea and experience to newbie like me la  This is not fb, don't spam report please Okay okay no worry.. Try my best to share info  Me also still learning  no perfect yet
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