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dasecret
post Nov 2 2016, 05:51 PM

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QUOTE(AIYH @ Nov 2 2016, 05:39 PM)
Now I understand smile.gif

Only their VP has balance sheet (statement of financial position right?).

FP really lack that  sweat.gif

But the 'reserve' info can't be obtained/deduced from P&L or comprehensive income or cash flow statement?
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Please share when you managed to do so, I want to learn that kungfu

Things to consider -
- P&L and cashflow statement only show realised gain/loss
- No point looking at OCI unlike Tabung Haji as they do not mark-to-market their investments, everything kept at cost unless they do impairment (in the case last year on FGV)
- For ASB and ASW, they don't even disclosed all holdings; and they also do not show % of market value, only book value. So want to see which holding is losing money also cannot
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post Nov 2 2016, 06:02 PM

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QUOTE(dasecret @ Nov 2 2016, 05:51 PM)
Please share when you managed to do so, I want to learn that kungfu

Things to consider -
- P&L and cashflow statement only show realised gain/loss
- No point looking at OCI unlike Tabung Haji as they do not mark-to-market their investments, everything kept at cost unless they do impairment (in the case last year on FGV)
- For ASB and ASW, they don't even disclosed all holdings; and they also do not show % of market value, only book value. So want to see which holding is losing money also cannot
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I am an account noobie laugh.gif

If I know that, I won't be asking such beginner question laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Different funds can have different reporting patterns? blink.gif

I thought the whole company products should have consistent financial reporting between them?
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post Nov 2 2016, 06:05 PM

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Just wondering...what's the % invested (based on investable amount) among regulars here? Anyone building/hoarding war chest? If you have like 60-80% uninvested, how would you plan your DCA/VCA ? Spread over 2 years?
dasecret
post Nov 2 2016, 06:16 PM

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QUOTE(AIYH @ Nov 2 2016, 06:02 PM)
I am an account noobie laugh.gif

If I know that, I won't be asking such beginner question laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Different funds can have different reporting patterns?  blink.gif

I thought the whole company products should have consistent financial reporting between them?
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Why their disclosure different is not something I can answer you. I just dissect information available to me as general public. They are special, don't follow accounting standards as allowed by SC

It's actually fascinating to read and try to figure out the missing pieces in the puzzle. But I'm stuck, because there's simply not enough puzzle pieces to even see an overall picture
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post Nov 2 2016, 06:19 PM

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QUOTE(spiderman17 @ Nov 2 2016, 06:05 PM)
Just wondering...what's the % invested (based on investable amount) among regulars here? Anyone building/hoarding war chest? If you have like 60-80% uninvested, how would you plan your DCA/VCA ? Spread over 2 years?
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I will small lump sum whenever windows of opportunity present itself. If big window of opportunity (like US election result), I will lump sum. If you have lump sum, can take opportunity of US election results.

But don't listen to me.
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post Nov 2 2016, 06:46 PM

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AIYH so far anyone reported any posts this noon since we open up the topic of shaddy ASx again lol
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post Nov 2 2016, 06:59 PM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Nov 2 2016, 06:46 PM)
AIYH so far anyone reported any posts this noon since we open up the topic of shaddy ASx again lol
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No one wo laugh.gif

But I am ok with it smile.gif

Different people with different background assess each investment with different perspective based on different risk appetite.

Don't quarrel over it la laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Nov 2 2016, 06:46 PM)
AIYH so far anyone reported any posts this noon since we open up the topic of shaddy ASx again lol
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QUOTE(AIYH @ Nov 2 2016, 06:59 PM)
No one wo laugh.gif

But I am ok with it smile.gif

Different people with different background assess each investment with different perspective based on different risk appetite.

Don't quarrel over it la laugh.gif
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want me to go on report spree devil.gif devil.gif bruce.gif bye.gif

sweat.gif rclxs0.gif thumbsup.gif
Avangelice
post Nov 2 2016, 07:34 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Nov 2 2016, 07:21 PM)
want me to go on report spree  devil.gif  devil.gif  bruce.gif  bye.gif

sweat.gif  rclxs0.gif  :thumbsup:
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no thanks boss. way too many drama already. even pink spider lari. where is he btw
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post Nov 2 2016, 07:42 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Nov 2 2016, 07:21 PM)
want me to go on report spree  devil.gif  bruce.gif  bye.gif

sweat.gif  rclxs0.gif  thumbsup.gif
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eh eh jangan kacau la laugh.gif

be humble and share your idea and experience to newbie like me la laugh.gif

This is not fb, don't spam report please sweat.gif

QUOTE(Avangelice @ Nov 2 2016, 07:34 PM)
no thanks boss. way too many drama already. even pink spider lari. where is he btw
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He will be back anytime dont worry tongue.gif
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post Nov 2 2016, 07:47 PM

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what do you guys topup this week ?

Ponzi 1 and Ponzi 2 only ?
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QUOTE(prince_mk @ Nov 2 2016, 07:47 PM)
what do you guys topup this week ?

Ponzi 1 and Ponzi 2 only ?
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This week: Ponzi 2, Ta Global Tech, Amasia.
KGF, Eastspring, tomorrow. Will add more amasia tomorrow.

This post has been edited by Ramjade: Nov 2 2016, 08:02 PM
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QUOTE(prince_mk @ Nov 2 2016, 07:47 PM)
what do you guys topup this week ?

Ponzi 1 and Ponzi 2 only ?
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Laosai not stopped yet. You want top up so fast ?
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QUOTE(puchongite @ Nov 2 2016, 07:50 PM)
Laosai not stopped yet. You want top up so fast ?
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Both Ponzi 1 and 2 has turning point NAV @ 31st October laugh.gif

AmAsia rising laugh.gif
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QUOTE(puchongite @ Nov 2 2016, 07:50 PM)
Laosai not stopped yet. You want top up so fast ?
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Topup now. Keep some more for later. biggrin.gif By the time you want to topup, stop liao (happen few times to me already). Want to topup, decide to wait, see see next day increase.

QUOTE(AIYH @ Nov 2 2016, 07:52 PM)
Both Ponzi 1 and 2 has turning point NAV @ 31st October laugh.gif

AmAsia rising laugh.gif
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AmAsia should be affected too today. biggrin.gif hopefully I am right.

This post has been edited by Ramjade: Nov 2 2016, 07:56 PM
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QUOTE(AIYH @ Nov 2 2016, 07:52 PM)
Both Ponzi 1 and 2 has turning point NAV @ 31st October laugh.gif

AmAsia rising laugh.gif
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Today's market is still red in asia and europe (so far). For me there is still no light in the tunnel.
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QUOTE(prince_mk @ Nov 2 2016, 07:47 PM)
what do you guys topup this week ?

Ponzi 1 and Ponzi 2 only ?
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TA. RHB AIF, AmAsia.


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post Nov 2 2016, 07:58 PM

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by the way. nobody still going to invest in China? I'm still waiting for the day to jump on the escalator
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post Nov 2 2016, 07:59 PM

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No matter what, I will patiently wait for the monthly date for me to DCA tongue.gif

Keep calm and DCA like nothing is happening innocent.gif
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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Nov 2 2016, 07:34 PM)
no thanks boss. way too many drama already. even pink spider lari. where is he btw
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Hahah jk only laugh.gif

Guess he very busy with work...
QUOTE(AIYH @ Nov 2 2016, 07:42 PM)
eh eh  jangan kacau la laugh.gif

be humble and share your idea and experience to newbie like me la laugh.gif

This is not fb, don't spam report please  sweat.gif
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Okay okay no worry..
Try my best to share info blush.gif
Me also still learning blush.gif blush.gif no perfect yet blush.gif

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