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Avangelice
post Nov 2 2016, 12:23 PM

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QUOTE(AIYH @ Nov 2 2016, 12:09 PM)
If you invest for long term, I will suggest to dca as usual, because you can't really know when will be the optimal time to invest back into malaysia equity.

DCA, at least you can bring down the cost during down turn, so that when malaysia market went bullish, you can earn better.

If you redeem all and reinvest in the later date, you will still face the uncertainty on when will be the best to reinvest into that market.

Thats just my opinion smile.gif
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I get what you mean but why invest when the returns are minimal. why not put your attention elsewhere. also there's always Malaysian fixed income funds who's returns are almost in par with the expected returns of equities.

it would make sense to DCA Anita rather than kapchai in a one year window since both of them may give you a 6% to 8% return. when the Malaysian market recovers then shift some of the funds from fixed income back into equity.
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post Nov 2 2016, 12:34 PM

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anyways just topped up the following funds.

AmAsia REITs myr 200
TA Global myr 200
Rhb Income myr 500
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post Nov 2 2016, 12:44 PM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Nov 2 2016, 12:23 PM)
I get what you mean but why invest when the returns are minimal. why not put your attention elsewhere. also there's always Malaysian fixed income funds who's returns are almost in par with the expected returns of equities.

it would make sense to DCA Anita rather than kapchai in a one year window since both of them may give you a 6% to 8% return. when the Malaysian market recovers then shift some of the funds from fixed income back into equity.
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You know when the low hype session end for Malaysia market and divert funds into it, I would say thats quite opportunistic biggrin.gif

However, I prefer to stay consistent with the intended percentage allocation of the fund within my portfolio smile.gif
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post Nov 2 2016, 12:54 PM

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QUOTE(AIYH @ Nov 2 2016, 12:44 PM)
You know when the low hype session end for Malaysia market and divert funds into it, I would say thats quite opportunistic biggrin.gif

However, I prefer to stay consistent with the intended percentage allocation of the fund within my portfolio smile.gif
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agree with your second statement. I'm not asking for no exposure in Malaysia but reduce its exposure in its equities and batten down the hatches and wait for the storm to pass by investing in fixed income funds while diverting investments to Asia ex Japan and China.

speaking of China. it looks like the dragon has awoken.
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post Nov 2 2016, 01:12 PM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Nov 2 2016, 12:54 PM)
agree with your second statement. I'm not asking for no exposure in Malaysia but reduce its exposure in its equities and batten down the hatches and wait for the storm to pass by investing in fixed income funds while diverting investments to Asia ex Japan and China.

speaking of China. it looks like the dragon has awoken.
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Practice it is harder than it sounds in theory, because I will not know when the market will end its bearish and pump additional allocation to it, and when the market will end its bullish and reduce allocation accordingly, that will be somehow like playing stock/forex albeit to a lesser degree of monitoring biggrin.gif

I do not have enough willpower to play like this laugh.gif

Therefore I will pick the appropriate funds, stick to predetermined allocation, so that market up and down let each fund compliment each other in the portfolio and let the portfolio as a whole grow eventually innocent.gif

Hopefully my cimb CII will go up up up biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(AIYH @ Nov 2 2016, 01:12 PM)
Practice it is harder than it sounds in theory, because I will not know when the market will end its bearish and pump additional allocation to it, and when the market will end its bullish and reduce allocation accordingly, that will be somehow like playing stock/forex albeit to a lesser degree of monitoring  biggrin.gif

I do not have enough willpower to play like this  laugh.gif

Therefore I will pick the appropriate funds, stick to predetermined allocation, so that market up and down let each fund compliment each other in the portfolio and let the portfolio as a whole grow eventually  innocent.gif

Hopefully my cimb CII will go up up up  biggrin.gif
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btw who was it who dumped money into kidsaver. was it pisces88 it's still under performing. looks like it never recovered.

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QUOTE(T231H @ Nov 2 2016, 12:08 PM)
hmm.gif  hmm.gif from another perspective....
the % of losses incurred from top up amount is definitely less than the amount of losses incurred from the current portfolio......
so what you gonna do?.....
still gung ho from holding current allocation or escape a larger portion to CMF?  devil.gif
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My current holding is still small (<25k), no point to run or top up now.
Can only start topping up again after election when the market stabilise.
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QUOTE(David3700 @ Nov 2 2016, 01:30 PM)
My current holding is still small (<25k), no point to run or top up now.
Can only start topping up again after election when the market stabilise.
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rclxms.gif WOW....25K..... flex.gif
mine will have to take a few more years to reach that level.... bangwall.gif

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speaking if which. my fix deposit of 30k is maturing next week. I'm planning to put into fixed income fund.

between Anita and rhb bond fund. which one would you suggest I put 20k into? remaining 10k will be placed into fd that matures every quarterly.

thanks in advance
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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Nov 2 2016, 01:51 PM)
speaking if which.  my fix deposit of 30k is maturing next week. I'm planning to put into fixed income fund.

between Anita and rhb bond fund. which one would you suggest I put 20k into? remaining 10k will be placed into fd that matures every quarterly.

thanks in advance
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If you can hold >1 year why bother going with lower returns. Only use lower returns if you cannot hold.

Well that's just me.

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post Nov 2 2016, 01:58 PM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Nov 2 2016, 01:51 PM)
speaking if which.  my fix deposit of 30k is maturing next week. I'm planning to put into fixed income fund.

between Anita and rhb bond fund. which one would you suggest I put 20k into? remaining 10k will be placed into fd that matures every quarterly.

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I would go for Libra Anista.
10 yrs annualised returns is BETTER than RHB Bond and at 70% less (3 yrs annualized volatility %)
RHB got holding period....

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Nov 2 2016, 01:53 PM)
If you can hold >1 year why bother going with lower returns. Only use lower returns if you cannot hold.

Well that's just me.
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QUOTE(T231H @ Nov 2 2016, 01:58 PM)
I would go for Libra Anista.
10 yrs annualised returns is BETTER than RHB Bond and at 70% less (3 yrs annualized volatility %)
RHB got holding period....
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yes these funds are for long term but I cannot risk them into anything else than a fixed income or a fixed deposit.

Thank you I'll take your feed back into consideration
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post Nov 2 2016, 02:44 PM

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used the fsm fund selection tool and between

Anita.
Rhb Islamic
Rhb bond

Rhb Islamic topped all three funds across the board.

if so why is Anita mostly recommended by the vets here?

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Nov 2 2016, 02:44 PM)
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used the fsm fund selection tool and between

Anita.
Rhb Islamic
Rhb bond

Rhb Islamic topped all three funds across the board.

if so why is Anita mostly recommended by the vets here?
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For me, I treat Asnita as my short term FD biggrin.gif

May need some of the money within a year

Meaning I don't want to be bonded by time, so redemption fee when redeem a year is a concern sad.gif

Plus, treat as FD indirectly implies that lower volatility will be favored tongue.gif

EDIT: If you can put long term (at least a year), RHB Bond/Islamic Bond Fund, otherwise Asnita

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QUOTE(AIYH @ Nov 2 2016, 02:46 PM)
For me, I treat Asnita as my short term FD biggrin.gif

Meaning I don't want to be bonded by time, so redemption fee when redeem a year is a concern sad.gif

Plus, treat as FD indirectly implies that lower volatility will be favored tongue.gif

EDIT: If you can put long term (at least a year), RHB Bond/Islamic Bond Fund, otherwise Asnita
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I'll never touch these funds when I have other pockets to dig into.

here's my plan than. use Anita to lock down proceeds from my equities.

send 25k into rhb islamic for more than one year or even two or three.

remaining 5k place into Anita.

I think this suits my needs.
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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Nov 2 2016, 02:44 PM)
used the fsm fund selection tool and between

Anita.
Rhb Islamic
Rhb bond

Rhb Islamic topped all three funds across the board.

if so why is Anita mostly recommended by the vets here?
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i suppose ...for it's much low about 70~80% lower annualised volatility and no lock in period....
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Hi guys,

sorry noobie here, was just wondering if the rhb cash management 2 is capital guaranteed? I was looking through their FAQ and this is what i get:-
"The money invested into the Cash Management Fund is deposited with several banks’ deposits issued by financial institutions in Malaysia."
While I'm aware that anything that involves investment normally is not capital guaranteed but in this case, any exceptions?

Thanks in advance!
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QUOTE(moonflower89 @ Nov 2 2016, 03:01 PM)
Hi guys,

sorry noobie here, was just wondering if the rhb cash management 2 is capital guaranteed? I was looking through their FAQ and this is what i get:-
"The money invested into the Cash Management Fund is deposited with several banks’ deposits issued by financial institutions in Malaysia."
While I'm aware that anything that involves investment normally is not capital guaranteed but in this case, any exceptions?

Thanks in advance!
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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Nov 2 2016, 02:44 PM)
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used the fsm fund selection tool and between

Anita.
Rhb Islamic
Rhb bond

Rhb Islamic topped all three funds across the board.

if so why is Anita mostly recommended by the vets here?
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Lower volatility = lower risk = more predictable return = less deviation from mean return.

Xuzen


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QUOTE(xuzen @ Nov 2 2016, 03:09 PM)
Lower volatility = lower risk = more predictable return = less deviation from mean return.

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but has rhb islamic bond fund ever failed in hitting predicted returns? that's the question.

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