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 FundSuperMart v16 (FSM) MY : Online UT Platform, UT DIY : Babystep to Investing :D

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Avangelice
post Dec 6 2016, 11:23 AM

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QUOTE(xuzen @ Dec 6 2016, 10:58 AM)


This shows that perhaps, our risk tolerance are dropping. Our perception is that market is more risky at the end of 2016 compared to beginning of 2016?
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QUOTE(wodenus @ Dec 6 2016, 11:20 AM)
Maybe this shows that the global economy is slowing? people becoming more cautious.
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or all of us are getting older as years go by and we lack the fire as most young investors as we have been tempered by the great short circuit of China in 2016 and post trump.
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post Dec 6 2016, 11:26 AM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Dec 6 2016, 11:23 AM)
or all of us are getting older as years go by and we lack the fire as most young investors as we have been tempered by the great short circuit of China in 2016 and post trump.
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I dunno.. people should take more educated risks as they get older.. they have much more money and they have less future to worry about smile.gif
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post Dec 6 2016, 11:29 AM

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Lol thanks so much AIYH and dasecret! Been wondering for some time now. Am gona keep my holding of it.

This post has been edited by drew86: Dec 6 2016, 11:32 AM
puchongite
post Dec 6 2016, 11:33 AM

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QUOTE(wodenus @ Dec 6 2016, 11:20 AM)
Maybe this shows that the global economy is slowing? people becoming more cautious.
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It's to do with the shaking up of bond funds, Malaysian ones particularly, which used to be perceived as the stable funds. Then suddenly after Trump, bond funds slide into red which has never happened before.
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post Dec 6 2016, 11:35 AM

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Yeah, AH Select Income Fund is indeed Hwang's "chew pai chow"@signature dish.

In fact, I've always said, if u wanna have EPF-beating returns and lazy to build a conservative portfolio, just buy this fund and sleep away...come back at 55 years old.
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post Dec 6 2016, 11:37 AM

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QUOTE(puchongite @ Dec 6 2016, 11:33 AM)
It's to do with the shaking up of bond funds, Malaysian ones particularly, which used to be perceived as the stable funds. Then suddenly after Trump, bond funds slide into red which has never happened before.
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Let's make America great again.
said the guy who repeatedly broke his campaign promises.

Come February we will see he is made of. I'll be on the eastern front if anyone needs me
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post Dec 6 2016, 11:45 AM

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Why u so hate Trump? I love him tongue.gif
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post Dec 6 2016, 12:05 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Dec 6 2016, 11:45 AM)
Why u so hate Trump? I love him tongue.gif
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Well one of two things will happen :

(1) he screws up the country - America is cheap until he is voted out and then.. smile.gif

(2) He does make America great again.. and then smile.gif

Where's the downside here smile.gif

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post Dec 6 2016, 01:42 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Dec 6 2016, 11:35 AM)
Yeah, AH Select Income Fund is indeed Hwang's "chew pai chow"@signature dish.

In fact, I've always said, if u wanna have EPF-beating returns and lazy to build a conservative portfolio, just buy this fund and sleep away...come back at 55 years old.
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All time signature dish.....SIF fund size is RM1,000 million more than that of SboF.

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QUOTE(David3700 @ Dec 6 2016, 01:42 PM)
All time signature dish.....SIF fund size is RM1,000 million more than that of SboF.

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So? Ada apa nak complain? biggrin.gif
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post Dec 6 2016, 02:08 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Dec 6 2016, 02:06 PM)
So? Ada apa nak complain? biggrin.gif
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lol hahaha I'm lost in the conversation as to how we managed to go into a comparison of multiple funds.

Anyways nobody topping up today?
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post Dec 6 2016, 02:11 PM

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QUOTE(xuzen @ Dec 6 2016, 10:58 AM)

I) On a separate note, perhaps some of the older or more veteran UTF participant may or may not have noticed; that is, in the earlier 2016, we were all talking about equities UTF such as CIMB APDIF (Ponzi 2.0) and also CIMB Titan Fund (Titanic).

II) Then in 2H-2016, we went down to lower volatility UTF such as RHB AIF

III) Now, towards the end of 2016, most of us are chattering about fixed income UTF.

This shows that perhaps, our risk tolerance are dropping. Our perception is that market is more risky at the end of 2016 compared to beginning of 2016?
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Good observation. I think 2016 been a challenging year and those who gone thru it realise their risk appetite and is reflecting that in their asset allocation. We still have some who are on 100% EQ and believe they can stomach the risk. If that decision is made conciously I guess it's fine

QUOTE(David3700 @ Dec 6 2016, 11:13 AM)
Nobody want to consider AHSIF ?
Heard from agent that it is very popular by corporates.
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It's equity exposed, and this year's performance is dragged down by the lacklustre MY stock market. Personally I prefer to combo ponzi 1.0 and select bond

QUOTE(xuzen @ Dec 6 2016, 11:20 AM)
Friend,

consider this thus: AHAM SBF versus AHAM SIF, in terms of risk to reward ratio, AHAM SBF wins by a massive margin.

Consider this again: AHAM SBF = bond = lower sales charge = lower commission.

Consider this perhaps: AHAM SIF = balanced fund = higher sales charge = better commission.

Perhaps you may come to some illuminating deduction?

Xuzen
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Interesting Select Income is classified as fixed income and therefore 0% sales charge and 0.2% platform fee per annum. But personally I still prefer select bond for its superior risk reward ratio

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post Dec 6 2016, 02:24 PM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Dec 6 2016, 02:08 PM)
lol hahaha I'm lost in the conversation as to how we managed to go into a comparison of multiple funds.

Anyways nobody topping up today?
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Nope, asia pac is green today.
Plus, Trump has humiliated China twice in 72 hours, just want to see what will happen then
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post Dec 6 2016, 02:28 PM

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QUOTE(David3700 @ Dec 6 2016, 02:24 PM)
Nope, asia pac is green today.
Plus, Trump has humiliated China twice in 72 hours, just want to see what will happen then
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just topped up 1k into India. figured I just push it right to my 10% allocation whilst enjoying the discount. so now I do not have to look at it allowing me more attention into Asia Pac region in coming months.

also did my weekly mini top up

Dragon (myr 200) and Ponzi 2.0 (myr 300)

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post Dec 6 2016, 02:28 PM

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Good sister,

Under FSM platform AHAM SIF = Fixed income. However, under AHAM own classification, it is deemed Mixed Asset = Balanced Fund. The earlier poster said broker / agents which I presume them to be AHAM agents / broker and not DIY FSM participants.

Hence, my earlier allusion that the brokers / agents would gain more commission from pushing SIF versus SBoF still stand.

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QUOTE(David3700 @ Dec 6 2016, 02:24 PM)
Nope, asia pac is green today.
Plus, Trump has humiliated China twice in 72 hours, just want to see what will happen then
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China is moving between red and green now ......
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Brazil Upgrade: Continued Improvements In External Factors & Domestic Economy!

In 2014, Latin America’s largest economy, Brazil, entered its worst recession in recent history, with GDP contracting year-on-year since 2Q 2014 till date. On a more positive note, signs of recovery have started to appear in early 2016, fuelling predictions that a bottoming out of Brazil’s economic troubles has been reached or is near. Continued improvement in external conditions concerning Brazil as well as her economy’s activity since our last downgrade have led us to adopt a slightly more optimistic view on the market, and thus upgrade the market from 3.0 Stars “Attractive” to 3.5 Stars “Attractive”. In this article, we explain in detail the reasons behind our upgrade.

https://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/resea...onomy!-7770

and Malaysia still is getting her piss sod 3 stars.
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post Dec 6 2016, 03:13 PM

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Kapchai and KGF continue to lao sai.. worst performing equity funds in my holding with only India behind them. Meh
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post Dec 6 2016, 03:14 PM

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QUOTE(drew86 @ Dec 6 2016, 03:13 PM)
Kapchai and KGF continue to lao sai.. worst performing equity funds in my holding with only India behind them. Meh
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switch buy into eastspring emerging markets fund. never looked back at kapchai again and at zero switch charge
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QUOTE(drew86 @ Dec 6 2016, 03:13 PM)
Kapchai and KGF continue to lao sai.. worst performing equity funds in my holding with only India behind them. Meh
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Which are the performing funds in your port ?

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