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 FundSuperMart v16 (FSM) MY : Online UT Platform, UT DIY : Babystep to Investing :D

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drew86
post Oct 23 2016, 09:53 PM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Oct 23 2016, 08:57 PM)
that was from Hk fsm. lolololol..

this is why you cross check your information here and buta buta buy.
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https://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/resea...Years!-7606

Bro, same article now in FSM MY 😎😜
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post Oct 23 2016, 09:56 PM

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QUOTE(Michaelbyz23 @ Oct 23 2016, 08:17 PM)
Spent 75% cash to Bungkus already Ponzi 2: CIMB-Principal Asia Pacific Dynamic Income Fund - MYR

Thanks sifu  thumbup.gif
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Gosh..did u just lump sum into Ponzi 2.0 because of one single piece of advice? Do practice safe ~sex~ investing!
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post Oct 24 2016, 04:04 PM

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Nice to know there are Kuchingnites here too! I didn't know of such event! Looking forward to the next one..hehe
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post Oct 24 2016, 06:23 PM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Oct 24 2016, 04:49 PM)
funny you should say that.

I was Hong Leong eBroker office in kuching last friday and was "interviewed" by one of the ladies there. She expected I was another naive idiot who wanted quick money but end up losing all his savings then go office flip table.

I gave her info of what I learn here. Dollar cost averaging, to how stocks vs unit trusts work and lastly she ask I bet you are a unit trust agent.

I tell you that face she made when I told her i work in medical. LOL...Makes me one proud mother fucker. 

All thanks to you boys for tutoring me.
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I won't be surprised that you would actually know more than some of those so-called con-sultans! Just a bit of reading, researching, understanding and reading this amazing thread go a longggg way! So yeah..in their faces! 😈 Anyways..this thread makes learning more fun!

QUOTE(Michaelbyz23 @ Oct 24 2016, 04:54 PM)
Smart people like you surely leaves govt once you see the opportunity! Say hi to Dr Wong S.Y., your previous HOD biggrin.gif
Anyways, sifu, I want to get back to UT investing. feels so lost, any good place where you'd recommend me to start reading again? Do you also do stocks?
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How small can this world be? Never knew the medical community in kch is active in DIY UT investment:P If I'm not mistaken Avangelice is in private practice now,no?

Do take the time to read the last few versions of this thread. Its worthwhileπŸ‘
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post Oct 24 2016, 09:19 PM

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I'm planning to do a revamp of my portfolio allocation. Minta nasihat/pendapat sifu sifu sekalian.

MY - KGF 10% EISC 10% RHB IBF 15%
Asia Pac - AmREITS Class B 15% RHB AIF 20%
EM - RHB EMBF 10%
DM - Titties 15%
Ind- Manu Ind 5%

Below is a summary of the portfolio

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post Oct 24 2016, 10:24 PM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Oct 24 2016, 10:00 PM)
I must say your diversification is better than mine.

how is the return like?
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QUOTE(AIYH @ Oct 24 2016, 10:04 PM)
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May I know what do you have in mind for the revamp? Like what do you plan to change? In terms of better funds or divert to different region or realign your portfolio asset allocation? smile.gif
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I've just started UTF investing in January, back then didn't know that with RSP one could start up a fund with the bare minimum top-up. Hence ended up with Ponzi 2.0, Titans, KGF and EISC with little emphasis on allocation % (didnt have regular funds to DCA) Only recently have I started setting aside a fixed amount monthly for UTF investment, wife was against UTF LOL! So decided to look seriously into geographical allocation and eventually came up with the portfolio above, xuzen is sure to accuse me of trying to catch em all!

Not sure how resilient this portfolio is going to be though. Going high on equities now does seem a tad risky. Any input/advice will be much appreciated smile.gif
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post Oct 24 2016, 10:50 PM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Oct 24 2016, 10:29 PM)
it depends on your age and your appetite for high risk equities that of course pays better returns than their counter parts.

if you are around my age, where I can afford to lose a few hundreds why not for a chance to read the returns for my endeavors. why not? unless you are investing with money you are afraid to lose then I would suggest you stuck to fixed income funds and balance funds.

also your Malaysian investments are all in the right place just that you may want to top up on other regions like India. bring it to maybe 15% of your portfolio or maybe 20% if you dare.
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As Master YodaZen said before, the best way to know ones risk appetite is to take the necessary steps towards experiencing UTF investment. Hence that is what I shall embark on. However I'm just a wee bit cautious in times like these where the market is threatening a meltdown (or not). Not concerned with short term losses due to volatility.

My instinct is preventing me from overweighting in country specific UTF..how heavily vested are you in India, may I ask?
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post Oct 25 2016, 10:39 PM

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QUOTE(xuzen @ Oct 25 2016, 09:50 PM)
Want to ask:

If RHB AIF for whatever reason no longer is favoured and another fund is the flavour of the month, what will you all do?

I mean, now we know that the market is volatile and a lot of pure equity may be too volatile for our current liking, what if the market as a whole turnaround and pure equity fund becomes de'riguer again?

What would you do?

Xuzen
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Nobody knows when and how exactly the market will react, will it go on a bull? Rebound? Correct? Meltdown? If one has chosen a balanced fund, one has decided he's got no steel balls. Ride it on as per plan, and when and if the balls turn to steel and one is comfortable riding on the pure equity boat, then hop on! Staying on a balanced fund will at worst net you lower profit than the pure equity counterparts in good times.
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post Oct 26 2016, 08:57 PM

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First of all, an insurance plan and a UTF investment are two separate "investments" that IMHO should not be compared head-to-head. I'm sure you are aware of the pros and cons of both and we should probably not go OT on this here. But in short, UT cannot give u a peace of mind in the short term lest something unfortunate were to happen. On the contrary, if nothing happens and u live till the ripe old age of 75, you'd be cursing you'd ever dumped money into an ILP in the first place. But only God knows what will happen and when. However, a monthly premium of close to 500 bucks is one helluva commitment! The agent sure did his/her job darn well...lol!

Now on to which is the most conservative..if you're looking at the least volatility, I would suggest Anitamui fund. In fact I myself have decided to turn to her instead of RHBIBF, as nothing beats her as a stabiliser of an equity-exposed portfolio. If she is open to a slightly higher volatility with exposure to asiapac bonds and potentially higher returns, go for AH Select Bond. Kindly refer to the linearity of Anitamui fund and 3 yr volatility below

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post Oct 26 2016, 09:55 PM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Oct 26 2016, 09:23 PM)
I was thinking of Anita mui but remembered that there's a annual charge that the fund charges on top of your investment. compared to rhb bond fund and rhb islamic bond fund, they are better no?
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AFAIK, the only extra fee not reflected in the NAV itself is the platform fee which is 0.05% (negligible, no?)

Historically, Anitamui is 50% less volatile with 20% lower returns compared to RHB bonds. So if your gf wants something really conservative, anitamui will be my recommendation. However do bear in mind that there are still risks of bond default, interest rates etc. Does she have enough cortisol to cope with watching NAV turn briefly red? Many people can't do that..one way is to ask her NOT to check FSM daily. Do it quarterly instead tongue.gif
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post Nov 1 2016, 11:36 AM

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QUOTE(AIYH @ Nov 1 2016, 09:42 AM)
You can actually just terminate the RSP contract for that fund so that it wont charge when RSP date come.

Then you manually DCA as you like.

After the RSP deduction date, then you set up the RSP contract again to let it deduct moving forward to following month smile.gif
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Yup can just do that. Done that a couple of times before✌


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post Nov 6 2016, 07:33 PM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Nov 6 2016, 06:42 PM)
why not just switch immediately to Anita

sell order t+3. buy order t+3.

then another round of sell and buy.

that's in total 9 days and we haven't counted the two weekends which is in total 11 days. that's 11 days of your money not doing anything aside moving up and down.

Regards.
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He's aiming for the credits to save sales charge I presume. Plus money is not doing nothing, any profit/loss in terms of NAV change still applies. It just isn't accessible..some of my funds are in such a float too.. meh!
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post Nov 8 2016, 12:06 PM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Nov 8 2016, 12:02 PM)
just do it. since it's a forward pricing unit so just do it! don't let dream be dreams. the moment is now.
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There is another brief moment after the election bloodbath to consider 😁
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post Nov 8 2016, 03:09 PM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Nov 8 2016, 01:36 PM)
I think he is talking about the Fed hike in December
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Nov 8 2016, 01:48 PM)
Nope. Nothing to do with Fed hike. There's always pocket of opportunities after election when there will be major sell off. The thing is I have never paid attention to previous US president election.

Now must watch like a hawk for that moment. bruce.gif
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Yup I was talking about the potential selloff right after the elections,if any. If it happens, hopefully we can catch it on the 10th morning before the AP sales ends. Of course if buying into US equities one is in no hurry as there is no discount on sales charge.

Holding my horses just yet.. bruce.gif
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post Nov 8 2016, 03:09 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Nov 8 2016, 02:53 PM)
Precisely. One cannot buy at the lowest all the time. But one can buy at lower price. I don't chase the lowest. I chase lower price.

That's why during last week, I topup 3x each time lower than the next.
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Wow u seem to have a lot of bullets wink.gif
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post Nov 10 2016, 07:06 AM

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QUOTE(sillybearz @ Nov 10 2016, 03:33 AM)
Hey guys i am new to fund supermart and would like to invest on some UTs.

Could someone please enlighten me what is the difference between FUND PERFORMANCE (BID-TO-BID ANNUALIZED RETURNS) and OTHER PERFORMANCE DATA as seen on the attached picture. During the 2013 period OTHER PERFORMANCE DATA shown a loss at -4.6% whereas FUND PERFORMANCE (BID TO BID ANUALIZED RETURNS shows gain @ 8.55 3 years ago.

Thank you for your help and hope to learn more from you guys.

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Means that in 2013 the fund made a loss of 4.6%, but if averaged out across 3 years, it reported an annualized gain of 8.55%.
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post Nov 10 2016, 10:04 AM

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Topped-up RHB AIF. Still not up to target allocation, so might as well take advantage of FSM discount 😁
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post Nov 14 2016, 08:46 PM

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All bond funds suffering the brunt as investors are speculating growth and inflation. My EM bonds fell more than 2% already. REITS plunging too
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post Nov 14 2016, 08:53 PM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Nov 14 2016, 08:47 PM)
trying to go zen atm but it's so damn hard not to let it affect me.  everytime I log into hle broking, Bloomberg and fsm,  a little part of me dies.
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Best thing to do right now.. don't login for a week/until you have bullets to top-up. Time to reevaluate asset allocation and top-up/let go perhaps?

Meanwhile try knocking urself out with some midamorph.. wink.gif
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post Nov 14 2016, 09:00 PM

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However the saying that all politicians lie still holds true. So don't expect Trump to implement whatever he "promised". We know very well how promises are made to be broken, especially in our own motherland.

For the faithful, this is the best time to buy-low.

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