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post Jan 9 2017, 03:39 PM

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looking for cctv package 2 x outdoor and 2 x indoor. Wiring is ready for 2 x outdoor.

Pls pm me packahge. Budget 1k
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post Jan 9 2017, 03:49 PM

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QUOTE(iman_210 @ Jan 9 2017, 03:39 PM)
looking for cctv package 2 x outdoor and 2 x indoor.  Wiring is ready for 2 x outdoor.

Pls pm me packahge.  Budget 1k
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If u install urself, buy Harddisk urself, HIKVISION 4ch 720P HD system can get RM1000. biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(iman_210 @ Jan 9 2017, 03:39 PM)
looking for cctv package 2 x outdoor and 2 x indoor.  Wiring is ready for 2 x outdoor.

Pls pm me packahge.  Budget 1k
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Try this one, 1080p and onvif should be compatible with other nvr, additional 20 yuan for audio recording

http://h5.m.taobao.com/awp/core/detail.htm...791&toSite=main

Any xmeye nvr or hikvision ds-7108sn should be sufficient

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post Jan 11 2017, 10:37 AM

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I just received my Hikvision CCTV and NVR from ezbuy. Will look into thoroughly how to setup the whole system. I think I need some help on it to setup. Any idea where to reference to setup with my Asus router?

Curious to know how does PoE adapter work?
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QUOTE(longpants @ Jan 11 2017, 10:37 AM)
I just received my Hikvision CCTV and NVR from ezbuy. Will look into thoroughly how to setup the whole system. I think I need some help on it to setup. Any idea where to reference to setup with my Asus router?

Curious to know how does PoE adapter work?
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Post the link on where you bought from or what you bought, from there fellow forumers can provide further guidance.
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post Jan 11 2017, 11:10 AM

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QUOTE(longpants @ Jan 11 2017, 10:37 AM)
I just received my Hikvision CCTV and NVR from ezbuy. Will look into thoroughly how to setup the whole system. I think I need some help on it to setup. Any idea where to reference to setup with my Asus router?

Curious to know how does PoE adapter work?
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Try setting up ezviz, should be straightforward after that and you'll be able to access outside home network

If not you might need to set up port forward on your asus router

Hikvision cam -> poe adapter cable -> poe ethernet switch/hikvision nvr with poe -> router

This post has been edited by alucard89: Jan 11 2017, 11:12 AM
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post Jan 11 2017, 11:24 AM

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QUOTE(alucard89 @ Jan 11 2017, 11:10 AM)
Try setting up ezviz, should be straightforward after that and you'll be able to access outside home network

If not you might need to set up port forward on your asus router

Hikvision cam -> poe adapter cable -> poe ethernet switch/hikvision nvr with poe -> router
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I thought EZVIZ requires a China Mobile Number for registration?

Currently my thoughts of setup is:

Through LAN:
Hikvision Cam (DS-IPC-B32-I3) > Hikvision NVR(DS-7108N)> Asus Router (N12HP)
Through WIFI:
Hikvision Cam (DS-IPC-B32-I3) > Asus Router (N12HP) or whichever router> Hikvision NVR(DS-7108N)

But I think I need to set up my NVR first because yesterday when I switch on without any HDD, it just keeps beeping every 10 seconds. WD Purple HDD 2TB should be enough I hope? Anyway, can it operate without a display monitor?
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post Jan 11 2017, 11:36 AM

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QUOTE(longpants @ Jan 11 2017, 11:24 AM)
I thought EZVIZ requires a China Mobile Number for registration?

Currently my thoughts of setup is:

Through LAN:
Hikvision Cam (DS-IPC-B32-I3) > Hikvision NVR(DS-7108N)> Asus Router (N12HP)
Through WIFI:
Hikvision Cam (DS-IPC-B32-I3) > Asus Router (N12HP) or whichever router> Hikvision NVR(DS-7108N)

But I think I need to set up my NVR first because yesterday when I switch on without any HDD, it just keeps beeping every 10 seconds. WD Purple HDD 2TB should be enough I hope? Anyway, can it operate without a display monitor?
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Are you using the multilanguage version or chinese firmware?
If chinese one, probably can't use ezviz here

Yeah, can still operate without monitor but you'll still need to know the ip address for nvr to configure the settings.

Try setting up with ivms 4500 mobile app and see if you can detect your device locally. Then you'll need to port forward your nvr so you can access it outside home network

For the hdd, have you tried formatting it in the hikvision setting?

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QUOTE(longpants @ Jan 11 2017, 11:24 AM)
I thought EZVIZ requires a China Mobile Number for registration?

Currently my thoughts of setup is:

Through LAN:
Hikvision Cam (DS-IPC-B32-I3) > Hikvision NVR(DS-7108N)> Asus Router (N12HP)
Through WIFI:
Hikvision Cam (DS-IPC-B32-I3) > Asus Router (N12HP) or whichever router> Hikvision NVR(DS-7108N)

But I think I need to set up my NVR first because yesterday when I switch on without any HDD, it just keeps beeping every 10 seconds. WD Purple HDD 2TB should be enough I hope? Anyway, can it operate without a display monitor?
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I am curious how many cameras you have.
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post Jan 11 2017, 11:57 AM

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QUOTE(alucard89 @ Jan 11 2017, 11:36 AM)
Are you using the multilanguage version or chinese firmware?
If chinese one, probably can't use ezviz here

Yeah, can still operate without monitor but you'll still need to know the ip address for nvr to configure the settings.

Try setting up with ivms 4500 mobile app and see if you can detect your device locally. Then you'll need to port forward your nvr so you can access it outside home network

For the hdd, have you tried formatting it in the hikvision setting?
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It should be the multi language one. How to check from the outside to confirm? I haven't had the time to connect it to a monitor to see the interface yet. tongue.gif

I thought of setting up first with a temporary monitor then maybe later on see whether to have a permanent one.

Yesterday, I can view through the IVMS 4500 app when testing to connect to one of the Camera connected via LAN.

QUOTE(alexander3133 @ Jan 11 2017, 11:45 AM)
I am curious how many cameras you have.
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Actually just 2 at the moment... tongue.gif
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post Jan 11 2017, 12:16 PM

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QUOTE(longpants @ Jan 11 2017, 11:57 AM)
It should be the multi language one. How to check from the outside to confirm? I haven't had the time to connect it to a monitor to see the interface yet.  tongue.gif

I thought of setting up first with a temporary monitor then maybe later on see whether to have a permanent one.

Yesterday, I can view through the IVMS 4500 app when testing to connect to one of the Camera connected via LAN.
Actually just 2 at the moment...  tongue.gif
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Your NVR is the one that has 8 LAN ports right?
2TB is enough for you at the moment, can even expand your cameras in the future.

Get a temporary monitor to do initial setup, such as admin password and etc.
Your NVR can live without monitor after initial setup.
But since you said you are able to view from iVMS 4500 locally in LAN, I would assumed you have done the initial setup. Because iVMS 4500 requires you to login to the NVR for viewing.
Since you can view from iVMS 4500 through LAN, next you have to setup your Asus router so that you can perform remote view from internet.
1. Port forwarding
2. Setup Asus DDNS
3. Make sure your internet IP is a public IP, request your ISP for an public IP is you found that your internet IP is a private IP.
4. Change the address in your iVMS 4500 so that it point to the DDNS address you registered in your Asus router.
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post Jan 11 2017, 12:18 PM

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interesting but i cant give too much info, conflict of interest with company

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QUOTE(longpants @ Jan 11 2017, 11:57 AM)
It should be the multi language one. How to check from the outside to confirm? I haven't had the time to connect it to a monitor to see the interface yet.  tongue.gif

I thought of setting up first with a temporary monitor then maybe later on see whether to have a permanent one.

Yesterday, I can view through the IVMS 4500 app when testing to connect to one of the Camera connected via LAN.
Actually just 2 at the moment...  tongue.gif
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If menu is in English confirmed multilanguage
2 other cameras also multilanguage? If chinese firmware you'll probably need to setup on your nvr using onvif instead of Hikvision
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post Jan 11 2017, 12:53 PM

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QUOTE(alexander3133 @ Jan 11 2017, 12:16 PM)
Your NVR is the one that has 8 LAN ports right?
2TB is enough for you at the moment, can even expand your cameras in the future.

Get a temporary monitor to do initial setup, such as admin password and etc.
Your NVR can live without monitor after initial setup.
But since you said you are able to view from iVMS 4500 locally in LAN, I would assumed you have done the initial setup. Because iVMS 4500 requires you to login to the NVR for viewing.
Since you can view from iVMS 4500 through LAN, next you have to setup your Asus router so that you can perform remote view from internet.
1. Port forwarding
2. Setup Asus DDNS
3. Make sure your internet IP is a public IP, request your ISP for an public IP is you found that your internet IP is a private IP.
4. Change the address in your iVMS 4500 so that it point to the DDNS address you registered in your Asus router.
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Yes 8 ports. Planning to expand if the setup works out. Thanks a lot for the information. Will try to setup when I have the time.

QUOTE(alucard89 @ Jan 11 2017, 12:25 PM)
If menu is in English confirmed multilanguage
2 other cameras also multilanguage? If chinese firmware you'll probably need to setup on your nvr using onvif instead of Hikvision
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The cameras are Chinese firmware. Can it setup with hikvision nvr multilanguage?

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QUOTE(longpants @ Jan 11 2017, 12:53 PM)
Yes 8 ports. Planning to expand if the setup works out. Thanks a lot for the information. Will try to setup when I have the time.
The cameras are Chinese firmware. Can it setup with hikvision nvr multilanguage?
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I think should still be possible, like i mentioned before
Try using onvif, not hikvision protocol when addding camera
Check what's the port number used for onvif on the camera settings.
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post Jan 11 2017, 02:28 PM

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QUOTE(alucard89 @ Jan 11 2017, 01:56 PM)
I think should still be possible, like i mentioned before
Try using onvif, not hikvision protocol when addding camera
Check what's the port number used for onvif on the camera settings.
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Thanks for sharing.

Sorry I'm not familiar with the protocol and I'm still new on this. Mind asking, what is the difference between onvif and hikvision protocol?
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QUOTE(longpants @ Jan 11 2017, 02:28 PM)
Thanks for sharing.

Sorry I'm not familiar with the protocol and I'm still new on this. Mind asking, what is the difference between onvif and hikvision protocol?
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With onvif, you can pretty much add any other 3rd party cameras with compatible onvif to the NVR and motion detection would still work

Hikvision protocol - for hikvision cameras only, can change settings on the camera directly like timestamp/private mask/etc
But in your case different firmware version
If your nvr is multilanguage then camera firmware need to be multilanguage also in order to get hikvision protocol working and vice versa with chinese ones
That's what i understand, any other sifus here probably could explain better

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post Jan 13 2017, 11:17 AM

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Latest update:
Managed to connect all my cameras and NVR together. Now able to watch through NVR and also through IVMS app. Protocol is hikvision and not not onvif. Managed to figured that the gateway needed to follow either the Asus router or the NVR router ip. hehe.


The next step I am planning to do is to get it connected to the internet so that I remote view (through DNS server or whatever) and then physically installing them on the wall.

Now though, I have a problem which is the internet is damn slow after having to connect 2x2MP camera through wifi. Not sure whether the NVR, camera or both hogging the asus router. Have changed both settings to 720P from 1080p resolution which seems to have some improvement for the time being, definitely not long term solution.

sifu any recommendations?


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QUOTE(longpants @ Jan 13 2017, 11:17 AM)
Latest update:
Managed to connect all my cameras and NVR together. Now able to watch through NVR and also through IVMS app. Protocol is hikvision and not not onvif. Managed to figured that the gateway needed to follow either the Asus router or the NVR router ip. hehe.
The next step I am planning to do is to get it connected to the internet so that I remote view (through DNS server or whatever) and then physically installing them on the wall.

Now though, I have a problem which is the internet is damn slow after having to connect 2x2MP camera through wifi. Not sure whether the NVR, camera or both hogging the asus router. Have changed both settings to 720P from 1080p resolution which seems to have some improvement for the time being, definitely not long term solution.

sifu any recommendations?
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I would suggest you to use 802.11n WiFi protocol instead of 802.11b/g protocol.
802.11g can provide max of 54Mbps of bandwidth only while 802.11n can provide more bandwidth than that.
If you have WiFi coverage concern using 802.11n, put 802.11n in 2.4GHz rather than in 5Ghz channel.
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QUOTE(longpants @ Jan 13 2017, 11:17 AM)
Latest update:
Managed to connect all my cameras and NVR together. Now able to watch through NVR and also through IVMS app. Protocol is hikvision and not not onvif. Managed to figured that the gateway needed to follow either the Asus router or the NVR router ip. hehe.
The next step I am planning to do is to get it connected to the internet so that I remote view (through DNS server or whatever) and then physically installing them on the wall.

Now though, I have a problem which is the internet is damn slow after having to connect 2x2MP camera through wifi. Not sure whether the NVR, camera or both hogging the asus router. Have changed both settings to 720P from 1080p resolution which seems to have some improvement for the time being, definitely not long term solution.

sifu any recommendations?
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Nice, so you can use hikvision protocol with different firmware language. The guys at ipcamtalk keep stressing out they're not compatible

I thought one of the camera is wired one? So you haven't install that one yet


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