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 Proton Suprima S V3, Slow Turbo.. Baru V3..

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simonde
post Sep 27 2018, 02:17 PM

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QUOTE(mr_geforce @ Sep 27 2018, 12:10 PM)
unless the seller is the proton SC, then you are safe Provided it have service record book. not those used car dealer claimed showroom car without service book.

Die Die must bring the plate number to SC check service record.
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Since I'm not sure about the Proton sc, you mind checking it for me ? Here's the link.

https://m.mudah.my/view?ad_id=69444231&shar...&share_to=other


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post Sep 27 2018, 06:50 PM

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QUOTE(simonde @ Sep 27 2018, 02:17 PM)
Since I'm not sure about the Proton sc, you mind checking it for me ? Here's the link.

https://m.mudah.my/view?ad_id=69444231&shar...&share_to=other
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oh this one.. according to the last conversation i have with the used car dealer who trick me.

that used car company is located in perak one.. no office in KL, the one in KL is used when there is customer want to view the car in KL. i think they will bring it down.

and Its not having service record book, as its proton tender car.. owned by proton edar.

but.. they know each other.. my used car seller and that suprima used car seller.

so, when you go there to take a look on car and said will go back and rethink..just take note the car plate for check at proton sc.
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post Sep 27 2018, 07:13 PM

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QUOTE(mr_geforce @ Sep 27 2018, 06:50 PM)
oh this one.. according to the last conversation i have with the used car dealer who trick me.

that used car company is located in perak one.. no office in KL, the one in KL is used when there is customer want to view the car in KL. i think they will bring it down.

and Its not having service record book, as its proton tender car.. owned by proton edar.

but.. they know each other.. my used car seller and that suprima used car seller.

so, when you go there to take a look on car and said will go back and rethink..just take note the car plate for check at proton sc.
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Oh my. U saw this ad before. I thought it was in KL but since you said it is in Perak, so better la. As my home also in Perak, just 30 minutes drive. Sure thing! Gotta check the number plate and bring it to the nearest SC. BTW they stated in the ad that they got service record book, right. I hope it's not a gimmick to attract customers. 1 more question, what do you mean by proton tender car?
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post Sep 27 2018, 07:22 PM

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hmmm. about the tender car also.. when i am in cose last time.. got talk with the SA on the tender car things..

mine one so far no major problem from car itself.. the major problem i have with the car is man made one, the stupid car used dealer broke the alternator fuse 100A {i think its from jump start..}, and bypass it using copper wire.. this has cause intermittent electrical issue {car electrical switch on/off unexpexted while driving and gear will enter into limb mode till restart.

after replaced a 100A fuse and new alternator issue problem solved. just that i know the alternator is working fine one, and have replaced new IC and carbon brush for it {for spare or sale as used}.


SA told me that many of the budak proton bought the tender car.. and told me also some are having problems one means used lemon unit.. while those luckly one get those without problem one...

beware.. proton tender car does not carry any warranty.

for all recall and service fix parts. cose will replace foc with labor.. small sc will replace parts + labor with charges one..

so.. need to really sure on the car condition before buy it.. some althought mileage altered.. but performance still tiptop like mine case la..
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post Sep 27 2018, 07:29 PM

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QUOTE(simonde @ Sep 27 2018, 07:13 PM)
Oh my. U saw this ad before. I thought it was in KL but since you said it is in Perak, so better la. As my home also in Perak, just 30 minutes drive. Sure thing! Gotta check the number plate and bring it to the nearest SC. BTW they stated in the ad that they got service record book, right. I hope it's not a gimmick to attract customers. 1 more question, what do you mean by proton tender car?
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haha. i can gurantee, they can‘t produce service book when you request to see.

proton tender car.. means the car previously owned by proton edar cose.. used as company car by proton. and its heavily utilized one. like one month mileage can suddenly reached 10,000km of travelling. or some long period only few hundred km travelled.

the car is lupus by proton and tender it to sell it off [perhaps have new company car]. so those used car dealer bought those car with low price and sold to us at higher price by alter the mileage..

when you bring to proton sc for service, they will said its tender car.. and if you told them mileage is only 5K, then they will stumble for a while.. and will show you the real mileage on the computer screen.
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post Sep 27 2018, 07:31 PM

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another thing is.. if you saw the floor mat already kena pijat until somepart hancur.. then you will know the mileage of the car..
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post Sep 27 2018, 07:48 PM

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QUOTE(mr_geforce @ Sep 27 2018, 07:22 PM)
hmmm. about the tender car also.. when i am in cose last time.. got talk with the SA on the tender car things..

mine one so far no major problem from car itself.. the major problem i have with the car is man made one, the stupid car used dealer broke the alternator fuse 100A {i think its from jump start..}, and bypass it using copper wire.. this has cause intermittent electrical issue {car electrical switch on/off unexpexted while driving and gear will enter into limb mode till restart.

after replaced a 100A fuse and new alternator issue problem solved. just that i know the alternator is working fine one, and have replaced new IC and carbon brush for it {for spare or sale as used}.
SA told me that many of the budak proton bought the tender car.. and told me also some are having problems one means used lemon unit.. while those luckly one get those without problem one...

beware.. proton tender car does not carry any warranty.

for all recall and service fix parts. cose will replace foc with labor..  small sc will replace parts + labor with charges one..

so.. need to really sure on the car condition before buy it.. some althought mileage altered.. but performance still tiptop like mine case la..
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Pretty darn scary though after reading your story. Must decide carefully ni to avoid any problem in future. Cheaper price with lots of hidden mysteries under the hood. Lucky you got the ok one. Thanks bro for the info. Should reconsider back my choice, 'cause gonna use the car for the next 9 years.

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post Sep 27 2018, 07:55 PM

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QUOTE(simonde @ Sep 27 2018, 07:48 PM)
Pretty darn scary though after reading your story. Must decide carefully ni to avoid any problem in future. Cheaper price with lots of hidden mysteries under the hood. Lucky you got the ok one. Thanks bro for the info. Should reconsider back my choice, 'cause gonna use the car for the next 9 years.
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oh yeah.. if you check carefully on those rubber parts.. either on the bottom of windshield ..or the running channel on windows.. then you probbly can guess the car mileage.

Just be careful lah,.. btw... preve.. suprima.. all are very nice one.. i have no regret getting the preve.
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post Sep 27 2018, 08:18 PM

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QUOTE(mr_geforce @ Sep 27 2018, 07:55 PM)
oh yeah.. if you check carefully on those rubber parts.. either on the bottom of windshield ..or the running channel on windows.. then you probbly can guess the car mileage.

Just be careful lah,.. btw... preve.. suprima.. all are very nice one.. i have no regret getting the preve.
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just buy a new one..58k ish for 2017 model
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post Sep 27 2018, 08:18 PM

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QUOTE(mr_geforce @ Sep 27 2018, 07:55 PM)
oh yeah.. if you check carefully on those rubber parts.. either on the bottom of windshield ..or the running channel on windows.. then you probbly can guess the car mileage.

Just be careful lah,.. btw... preve.. suprima.. all are very nice one.. i have no regret getting the preve.
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Lets see first. Because I'm not an expert to inspect the car by myself, maybe will come with someone who pro about cars if i wanna buy one. Actually been eyeing for Preve since it was launched back in 2012. Not sure about others but for me, designwise it has the looks, although the rear kinda busy with the cues and stuff.
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QUOTE(arthman @ Sep 27 2018, 08:18 PM)
just buy a new one..58k ish for 2017 model
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True bro. 58k. Same price with persona premium spec. Or myvi 1.5 advance
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post Sep 27 2018, 11:36 PM

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Bosses,

Happen to have prob with my suprima's wheel alignment. Goes more towards left. Done alignment a few times already. Any idea what I should do next
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post Sep 28 2018, 05:17 PM

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Thanks guys on the info on the CVT damper. hopefully i get the call, as i last check mine at the center and it is not mentioned to have been part of the recall.

Simonde, when i was searching for mine i did tons of research. If the ad is true, you can try to ask them if you can take it to a sc to verify the history. I do not trust used car dealers. and if it is genuine 1k millage i would still suggest you have some money set a side to have the fluids changed soon as you get it. this will include the CVT oil. although it is only 1k millage sometimes these used car will "service" it for you and who knows what goes in. Also check the tires, they are notorious for cracking. check the inner sidewall. Next thing is to look at the fusebox, it should have the updated one and not the made in china ones which the earlier models had. also have a look at the cooler hoses, i cant imagine them being an issue at 1k km but worth a look. Once you managed to convince the dealer to have it taken to the SC get them to run a diagnostic to ensure no errors in the memory.

Lastly do note that the car is not exactly economical to maintain. Parts are not cheap (original), and the you need to alter your driving habits to ensure you ease in the throttle on take off to avoid prematurely wearing out the gearbox. Apart from that is always invest in good quality oil, as like all turbo cars the engine oil is shared with the turbo unit. cheapo oils could lead to sludge and eventually destruction to the turbo unit due to a clogged oil feed/return or worst prematurely bursting the oil cooler hoses, which would lead to a potential rebuild.

Since we are done with the negatives, lets talk about why i love the car. I am a driving enthusiast with a very small wallet. no car within this price range give you this amount of driving fun on the twisties (only a manual version could make this car more fun). As for the power, its not big on it however the torque comes in pretty early so thats a plus. The ride typical proton ride and handling, firm enough but still pretty comfortable for a daily drive ( some will disagree with me) The chassis is pretty decent, not to mention the safety aids. The huge plus about the ESP is it is not as intrusive as most systems. it allows for some spirited driving without cutting you off early on. Boot space is decent enough for a hatchback. I dare say compared to a preve this is a better boot as the boot entrance is very tiny on a preve. The rest of the info can be obtained on the brochure tongue.gif

All in all if you are the type that spends money on preventative maintenance this is definitely a decent car, although it has a dated engine with high fuel consumption. btw expect to get about 8 to 9km/l unless you spend alot of time on the highway this is the rough average of conservative city driving.

Hope i managed to shed some light on you potential Suprima purchase. All the best
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post Sep 28 2018, 07:26 PM

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QUOTE(scoupe @ Sep 28 2018, 05:17 PM)
Thanks guys on the info on the CVT damper. hopefully i get the call, as i last check mine at the center and it is not mentioned to have been part of the recall.

Simonde, when i was searching for mine i did tons of research. If the ad is true, you can try to ask them if you can take it to a sc to verify the history. I do not trust used car dealers. and if it is genuine 1k millage i would still suggest you have some money set a side to have the fluids changed soon as  you get it. this will include the CVT oil. although it is only 1k millage sometimes these used car will "service" it for you and who knows what goes in. Also check the tires, they are notorious for cracking. check the inner sidewall. Next thing is to look at the fusebox, it should have the updated one and not the made in china ones which the earlier models had. also have a look at the cooler hoses, i cant imagine them being an issue at 1k km but worth a look. Once you managed to convince the dealer to have it taken to the SC get them to run a diagnostic to ensure no errors in the memory.

Lastly do note that the car is not exactly economical to maintain. Parts are not cheap (original), and the you need to alter your driving habits to ensure you ease in the throttle on take off to avoid prematurely wearing out the gearbox. Apart from that is always invest in good quality oil, as like all turbo cars the engine oil is shared with the turbo unit. cheapo oils could lead to sludge and eventually destruction to the turbo unit due to a clogged oil feed/return or worst prematurely bursting the oil cooler hoses, which would lead to a potential rebuild.

Since we are done with the negatives, lets talk about why i love the car. I am a driving enthusiast with a very small wallet. no car within this price range give you this amount of driving fun on the twisties (only a manual version could make this car more fun). As for the power, its not big on it however the torque comes in pretty early so thats a plus. The ride typical proton ride and handling, firm enough but still pretty comfortable for a daily drive ( some will disagree with me) The chassis is pretty decent, not to mention the safety aids. The huge plus about the ESP is it is not as intrusive as most systems. it allows for some spirited driving without cutting you off early on. Boot space is decent enough for a hatchback. I dare say compared to a preve this is a better boot as the boot entrance is very tiny on a preve. The rest of the info can be obtained on the brochure tongue.gif

All in all if you are the type that spends money on preventative maintenance this is definitely a decent car, although it has a dated engine with high fuel consumption. btw expect to get about 8 to 9km/l unless you spend alot of time on the highway this is the rough average of conservative city driving.

Hope i managed to shed some light on you potential Suprima purchase. All the best
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Very well said bro thank you so much for the feedback. Yaaa i agreed with you. To have a decent car with a guy with little wallet like us, Suprima is a good choice i guess. BTW i'll follow all your guide if I will decide to buy this so called show room car somewhere in the future. Thank you again bro.

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Bro, can you please recommend a good and reliable workshop for me to get this done? Thanks in advace
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EA Auto for the oil catch tank. Not the cheapest around but their after sales and workmanship is better than every other shop I've went to so far.

For throttle body cleaning, no idea. Try to ask someone called thundercid god in this forum. He is the one who sells this
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QUOTE(simonde @ Sep 28 2018, 07:26 PM)
Very well said bro thank you so much for the feedback. Yaaa i agreed with you. To have a decent car with a guy with little wallet like us, Suprima is a good choice i guess. BTW i'll follow all your guide if I will decide to buy this so called show room car somewhere in the future. Thank you again bro.
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It is not a bad car. It is not very good as it's mostly let down by low quality interior parts and poor workmanship. Other mechanical parts could also be problematic like the steering rack for me, which I have already replaced at least twice and which I am currently pushing for a third replacement.

Of course.. this is just my experience. Yours could be a very good one, especially if you are not picky like I am. Just about every car my family owns has issues to me. To them there is nothing wrong with their car.
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QUOTE(TDUEnthusiast @ Sep 28 2018, 10:58 PM)
EA Auto for the oil catch tank.  Not the cheapest around but their after sales and workmanship is better than every other shop I've went to so far. 

For throttle body cleaning,  no idea. Try to ask someone called thundercid god in this forum.  He is the one who sells this
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throttle body cleaning can do at SC. that day i done at COSE, labor charge RM60
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post Sep 29 2018, 10:46 AM

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bro, what is the issue with your rack? im curious, because i have been trying to diagnose a problem with my car. im almost looking at the rack being part of the issue. internally seems to have freeplay. not the tie rod and tie rod end, but the rack it self seems to have some free play. just curious what issues you have with yours. recently i was looking at a 2017 suprima, the rack colour is different, wonder if its a new improved unit or it is just the colour.

QUOTE(TDUEnthusiast @ Sep 28 2018, 11:02 PM)
It is not a bad car. It is not very good as it's mostly let down by low quality interior parts and poor workmanship. Other mechanical parts could also be problematic like the steering rack for me, which I have already replaced at least twice and which I am currently pushing for a third replacement.

Of course.. this is just my experience. Yours could be a very good one, especially if you are not picky like I am. Just about every car my family owns has issues to me. To them there is nothing wrong with their car.
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QUOTE(scoupe @ Sep 29 2018, 10:46 AM)
bro, what is the issue with your rack? im curious, because i have been trying to diagnose a problem with my car. im almost looking at the rack being part of the issue. internally seems to have freeplay. not the tie rod and tie rod end, but the rack it self seems to have some free play. just curious what issues you have with yours. recently i was looking at a 2017 suprima, the rack colour is different, wonder if its a new improved unit or it is just the colour.
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Noise issue, when turning and when cornering + on road with uneven surface. As far as I noticed, the rack seems to have black plastic pieces on each end compared to my first one. Still having issues however.
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QUOTE(zymeth05 @ Sep 27 2018, 11:36 PM)
Bosses,

Happen to have prob with my suprima's wheel alignment. Goes more towards left. Done alignment a few times already. Any idea what I should do next
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Inter-swap front left right tyre for testing.

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