I am working in the profession, and I feel compelled to reply to this, although this might be a little late for some, but still.
In addition to the info aeiou228
has shared, I would like to add.
Many people like to think the existence of architects and other professions within the building construction industry are to get money out of your pocket.
What they don't understand is that these laws pertaining to the built environment, are meant more to protect interest of the public by regulating what can be done and what cannot be done.
What they can't see is the value behind the price tag. An architect's certification is basically, in layman terms, a lifetime guarantee of health and safety to the building you are occupying, at least that is true in Malaysia.
It is sometime puzzling to us within the profession why someone can spend thousands to get a designer bag, yet wouldn't want to remunerate the professional who is responsible for the health and safety of your house. (Let's not even talk about the infamous bad debt in the construction industry)
Typically, for a renovation done without applying for permit, in any case when you need to present your CCC, and you can't, then that is the beginning of another long process.
For information and education purposes, see below for the CCC process.
These are all stipulated in the Street, Drainage and Building Act 1974 (Act 133) and Uniform Building By-Laws 1984
See the Lembaga Arkitek Malaysia's Circular No. 1/2008
on CCC which outlines the process of delivering building construction permit up to issuance of CCChttp://www.lam.gov.my/index.php/circulars/...s.html?start=10
There are 21 Forms (Borang G1-G21) to be completed for any new projects.
FORM G 1 Stage Certification : Earthworks
FORM G 2 Stage Certification : Setting Out
FORM G 3 Stage Certification : Foundations
FORM G 4 Stage Certification : Structural
FORM G 5 Stage Certification : Internal Water Plumbing
FORM G 6 Stage Certification : Internal Sanitary Plumbing
FORM G 7 Stage Certification : Internal Electrical
FORM G 8 Stage Certification : Fire-Fighting (Passive)
FORM G 9 Stage Certification : Fire-Fighting (Active)
FORM G 10 Stage Certification : Mechanical Ventilation
FORM G 11 Stage Certification : Lift/Escalator Installation
FORM G 12 Stage Certification : Building
FORM G 13 Stage Certification : External Water Supply System
FORM G 14 Stage Certification : Sewerage Reticulation
FORM G 15 Stage Certification : Sewerage Treatment Plant
FORM G 16 Stage Certification : External Electrical Supply System
FORM G 17 Stage Certification : Road and Drain
FORM G 18 Stage Certification : Street Lighting
FORM G 19 Stage Certification : External Main Drain
FORM G 20 Stage Certification : Telecommunication
FORM G 21 Stage Certification : Landscape
For renovation projects however, only the involved parts needs to be filled in, likely but not limited to Form G4-G7 and G12, depending on the scope of your projects. Other than that, the PSP will certify that the particular forms are not related, but still need to submit.
These forms are designed to suit any scale of projects, from kitchen renovation to 100 storey mega structures, the forms are the same.
It is a process involving professional consultant's certification, invitation and arrangement of the relevant technical departments (internal for example Jabatan Kawalan Bangunan, Jabatan Kejuruteraan, Jabatan Pengairan dan Saliran, etc.; external for example Bomba, TNB, IWK, Syabas, etc.) to do inspection.
For most homeowners who cannot comprehend why you think the cost of engaging an architect to produce the CCC is high, there are so many background works that you couldn't even imagine how complicated and sometimes difficult to deal with, the long hours involved, as well as the long time frame to make things happen, this is it.
According to Street, Drainage and Building Act 1974 (Act 133),Section 3 Interpretation
"certificate of completion and compliance " means the certificate given or granted under any by-laws made under this Act;
"principal submitting person" means a qualified person who submits building plans to the local authority for approval in accordance with this Act or any by-laws made thereunder and includes any other qualified person who takes over the duties and responsibilities of or acts for the first mentioned qualified person;Section 70 Notice of new buildings
(1) No person shall erect any building without the prior written permission of the local authority.
(2) Any person who intends to erect any building shall cause to be submitted by a principal submitting person or submitting person-
Refer to the following website for complete version of SDBA 1974 https://www.hba.org.my/laws/street/partV.htm
QUOTE(alchmiya @ Jan 18 2017, 10:14 AM)
To reapply CCC, I just need to go to some MPSJ approved architect?
QUOTE(monchi @ Mar 7 2017, 11:52 AM)
Hi, Anyone can recommend me any good Panel architect for MPSJ? i would like to get their service for the illegal extension application submission as now MPSJ extend until August 2017. thanks
This is a misconception regarding "an authority approved architect" or "panel architect".
There is no laws permitting this, as any architect registered with Lembaga Arkitek Malaysia (LAM) is qualified to submit plans to any local authority within Peninsular Malaysia.
If you need to find any architect, you can refer to the LAM website, they have a database of registered architect with contact details.
A good tip to any person approaching an architect, it is good to request the architect to present their LAM registration certificate, and get their LAM registration number.
You can then look up from the website, or even call LAM to check up on a certain architect to make sure they are registered.
Link to LAM database: http://portal.lam.gov.my/website_member_list.php?gtype=pa
This is because architecture as a profession is highly regulated in Malaysia, if any architect are doing any sketchy thing, you can complain/report to LAM and there will be actions taken.
More details you can refer to Architect's Act 1967 (Act 117) at http://www.lam.gov.my/index.php/act-rules.html
QUOTE(aeiou228 @ Mar 31 2017, 12:11 PM)
Whatever invole structural reconstruction, you need to get a new ccc. I can't read your mind about how you going to change the wall design. Better you sketch a before and after plan here.
Another thing to consider is the cost of new ccc is not must different for minor or major renovation. You might as well submit a more comprehensive drawing plan and do a major renovation once and for all. Just don't end up with your cost of ccc is 50% of the cost of a minor renovation.
According to the law, any type of building works needs to obtain CCC. For projects involving structural (re)construction, the owner will need to engage a structural engineer to do their relevant plan submission to the local authority to get approval. But for any project, there is only 1 CCC. The approvals/permits obtained by engineers will form as part of the CCC.
For example, concerning the structural parts of the project only, the main contractor and the structural engineer will need to sign Borang G4. See example below
As you can see, this form is only valid if your contractor is registered with CIDB. Please make sure your contractor is registered with CIDB before engaging them to do your building works.
Ask them to produce to you a copy of their CIDB registration certificate, and similar to the above regarding architects, you can look up their registration details on CIDB website.
If your main con is not CIDB registered, turn around and never look back.
QUOTE(shuiyu38 @ Apr 28 2017, 10:27 PM)
mpsj approves the plan, while ccc issued by architect?
This is a somewhat controversial issue that is a topic of constant discussion within the profession.
The main purpose of establishing the CCC system is towards a self-regulatory and self-certification system.
Under the CCC procedure, basically all liability are to be borne by the consultants (architects, civil & structural engineers, mechanical & electrical engineers, etc. - those who endorse the Borang G1-G21)
yet for some reason the local authority still needs to approve the plan.This post has been edited by 2387581: May 12 2017, 11:27 AM