I am working in the profession, and I feel compelled to reply to this, although this might be a little late for some, but still.
In addition to the info aeiou228 has shared, I would like to add.
Many people like to think the existence of architects and other professions within the building construction industry are to get money out of your pocket.
What they don't understand is that these laws pertaining to the built environment, are meant more to protect interest of the public by regulating what can be done and what cannot be done.
What they can't see is the value behind the price tag. An architect's certification is basically, in layman terms, a lifetime guarantee of health and safety to the building you are occupying, at least that is true in Malaysia.
It is sometime puzzling to us within the profession why someone can spend thousands to get a designer bag, yet wouldn't want to remunerate the professional who is responsible for the health and safety of your house. (Let's not even talk about the infamous bad debt in the construction industry)
Typically, for a renovation done without applying for permit, in any case when you need to present your CCC, and you can't, then that is the beginning of another long process.
For information and education purposes, see below for the CCC process.
These are all stipulated in the Street, Drainage and Building Act 1974 (Act 133) and Uniform Building By-Laws 1984

See the Lembaga Arkitek Malaysia's Circular No. 1/2008 on CCC which outlines the process of delivering building construction permit up to issuance of CCC
http://www.lam.gov.my/index.php/circulars/...s.html?start=10

There are 21 Forms (Borang G1-G21) to be completed for any new projects.

For renovation projects however, only the involved parts needs to be filled in, likely but not limited to Form G4-G7 and G12, depending on the scope of your projects. Other than that, the PSP will certify that the particular forms are not related, but still need to submit.
These forms are designed to suit any scale of projects, from kitchen renovation to 100 storey mega structures, the forms are the same.
It is a process involving professional consultant's certification, invitation and arrangement of the relevant technical departments (internal for example Jabatan Kawalan Bangunan, Jabatan Kejuruteraan, Jabatan Pengairan dan Saliran, etc.; external for example Bomba, TNB, IWK, Syabas, etc.) to do inspection.
For most homeowners who cannot comprehend why you think the cost of engaging an architect to produce the CCC is high, there are so many background works that you couldn't even imagine how complicated and sometimes difficult to deal with, the long hours involved, as well as the long time frame to make things happen, this is it.




This is a misconception regarding "an authority approved architect" or "panel architect".
There is no laws permitting this, as any architect registered with Lembaga Arkitek Malaysia (LAM) is qualified to submit plans to any local authority within Peninsular Malaysia.
If you need to find any architect, you can refer to the LAM website, they have a database of registered architect with contact details.
A good tip to any person approaching an architect, it is good to request the architect to present their LAM registration certificate, and get their LAM registration number.
You can then look up from the website, or even call LAM to check up on a certain architect to make sure they are registered.
Link to LAM database: http://portal.lam.gov.my/website_member_list.php?gtype=pa
This is because architecture as a profession is highly regulated in Malaysia, if any architect are doing any sketchy thing, you can complain/report to LAM and there will be actions taken.
More details you can refer to Architect's Act 1967 (Act 117) at http://www.lam.gov.my/index.php/act-rules.html

According to the law, any type of building works needs to obtain CCC. For projects involving structural (re)construction, the owner will need to engage a structural engineer to do their relevant plan submission to the local authority to get approval. But for any project, there is only 1 CCC. The approvals/permits obtained by engineers will form as part of the CCC.
For example, concerning the structural parts of the project only, the main contractor and the structural engineer will need to sign Borang G4. See example below

As you can see, this form is only valid if your contractor is registered with CIDB. Please make sure your contractor is registered with CIDB before engaging them to do your building works.
Ask them to produce to you a copy of their CIDB registration certificate, and similar to the above regarding architects, you can look up their registration details on CIDB website.
If your main con is not CIDB registered, turn around and never look back.

This is a somewhat controversial issue that is a topic of constant discussion within the profession.
The main purpose of establishing the CCC system is towards a self-regulatory and self-certification system.
Under the CCC procedure, basically all liability are to be borne by the consultants (architects, civil & structural engineers, mechanical & electrical engineers, etc. - those who endorse the Borang G1-G21)
yet for some reason the local authority still needs to approve the plan.

This post has been edited by 2387581: May 12 2017, 11:27 AM

Do you mean
1. local authority 'pre-approved plan' which does not involve architect to do submission, or
2. a set of plan submitted by an architect which subsequently obtained approval from local authority ?

No. 1, sorry to tell you I do not know the process as it does not involve architects. For example you have a terrace house with a backyard. You want to extend to build up to the boundary of the backyard. In these cases you can go directly to the local authority and choose the 'pre-approved' plan and pay a small amount of fee to the local authority to get the permit. Whether or not these cases require CCC I do not know. This is because if there is no architect involved, no architect to issue to CCC. You may check with your local authority for clarification.

No. 2, This is a problem with the people's mindset whereby the people tends to do things the 'easy-way' they think, by cutting corners and ignoring legal responsibilities. Local authority only accept completed Borang G1-G21 signed by contractors/tradesman registered with regulatory bodies respectively. In order to facilitate the paper works, some people may choose to engage a CIDB-registered contractor, and get them to check your building against the approved plan. If they are satisfied with everything (including the quality, material, craftsmanship, etc.) then they may endorse the Form G12 alongside with the architect's signature. When they endorse, it means they undertake that particular job as their own instead of the original, non-CIDB registered contractor. It means down the road if it involves a lawsuit, they are responsible for any wrongdoings of the construction works. Disclaimer: I do not endorse this, as this is not the right way to do things. You may refer to Lembaga Pembangunan Industri Pembinaan Malaysia Act 1994 (Act 520) for more info.

To understand each Borang G1-G21 you can download the forms at Lemabaga Arkitek Malaysia website http://www.lam.gov.my/index.php/ccc/forms-g1-g21.html
Inside you can see who is responsible for each form, and it stats the works involved.

What I am trying to do here is to raise awareness to the readers of these issues. I see many cases here saying the contractor vanished after they receive money and they cannot get someone to hold account. In this age, people can fabricate and sugarcoat their portfolio and talk empty to get you to pay them before commencing any works. The CIDB regulations is meant to protect the public against those irresponsible and shady contractors. One thing worth noting is that CIDB grades the contractor according to their capacity to undertake projects of certain budget. Details can be found on CIDB website and their class is reflected in their registration number.

This post has been edited by 2387581: May 12 2017, 05:14 PM

Yes, the owner's copy is blue in colour.
See link for image sourced online.
Borang F = CCC = certificate of completion and compliance = sijil perakuan siap dan pematuhan
Every set of CCC has 4 copies with a serial number and lettered according to the state/territory.
Salinan asal - Owner's - Blue
Salinan orang utama yang mengemukakan - Principal submitting person's copy (architect/engineer) - Yellow
Salinan pihak berkuasa tempatan - Local authority's copy - Green
Salinan Lembaga Arkitek Malaysia - LAM's copy - Biege

Your CCC should be complete upon the architect submit to local authority. Under OSC 3.0 process, the architect will submit the Borang F (local authority + LAM) to local authority. Upon receive, the local authority shall forward LAM's copy to LAM within 14 days of the date printed on Borang F. At the same time, the architect is required to upload a scanned copy of the CCC to LAM website.
Lembaga Arkitek Malaysia will then publish on its website the list of CCC.
You can search according to the serial number or other credentials to ensure they are recorded. Link here.
But sometimes they could be really, really slow in updating the database.

Note that the CCC although is only one sheet of A4 paper, the documents that come with it are usually bound together as a booklet, which contains all checklist, Borang G1-G21 and relevant approval letters, clearance letters after inspection is done by all technical agencies, sometimes a photographic report documenting the completed project, etc etc. The most important thing is still your Blue coloured A4-sized Borang F though.

Ask your architect, he/she would know.
With OSC 3.0 process, it goes like the following
1. Consultants (architect/engineers) to pre-consult with relevant technical departments for info/requirements pertaining to your project.
2. Submission of plans for approvals
3. Notice of commencement of works
4. Interim inspection by technical departments (SYABAS, TNB, DOSH, IWK, JKR, Bomba, Local authority Building Dept., Engr. Dept., etc)
5. Final inspection stage I & II by technical departments
6. Deposit CCC

For more information you may refer to the OSC 3.0 Manual Pemohon which can be found here.
It clearly outlines the process and departments involved.

There is a reason why it is called "Deposit CCC" instead of application (in a sense application 'for approval') because it is the Principal Submitting Person (architect/engineer depending on the project) who certify and sign on the Borang F. Further more, as per the above process, inspections are done before the architect will issue the Borang F. Of course there is a list of documents required to be deposited together with the Borang F, and the Jabatan Bangunan + OSC will check to ensure all documents are in place before OSC will even accept it. These documents always includes the clearance letter obtained from all relevant departments after they have done inspection and satisfied to their requirement. Upon the local authority OSC (MPSJ for example) accepted it, they are responsible to distribute the Borang F to Jabatan Bangunan and LAM respectively. Should they have any further comments (which is unlikely - because comments would have been arises during the multiple stages of inspection before depositing CCC) they will inform your architect.

No, it is possible to do so.
Sometimes client-consultant relationship turns sour, sometimes the architect might be incapacitated to perform his duty, lots of possibilities. As long as the client has fully settled the account with (paid) architect 'A', and architect 'A' has subsequently issued a release letter to the client and also informed the local authority.
The client may then engage another architect 'B' to carry on with the project, with prior approval from the local authority.

For small projects like small home renovation, in my personal opinion, is simply not worth to do this. You could be penny wise pound foolish. It will most likely consume your time and energy and probably more money to do so, and in the process drag the project completion time late.

Perhaps you are right because I comment based on my working experience only for projects of larger scales. And probably it differs from one authority to another. From my experience, there is one instance with MBPJ involving 4-storey shop office internal renovation, I enquired with jabatan bangunan and confirmed, then submitted building plan to jabatan bangunan directly for approval. Next stage onwards they ask me to go submit to OSC, starting from Borang B up to CCC I have to submit to OSC.

Yes, these are the standard documents the Majlis required for submission.

Every local Majlis may have different directions. Easiest way to resolve this is to bring along your contractor to the Jabatan Kawalan Bangunan and ask the officer there.
For all these reasons that is why I always emphasis the importance of written correspondence, letters, minutes, memorandum of agreement, stamped contracts, receipts etc; not simply based on talk only.
One job even adding a metal deck porch roof to a terraced factory, MBSA requires CCC.
For my office project, all require CCC. But then because I work in a proper architectural consultation practice, we usually deal with projects from scratch to completion, so CCC is a must from my experience.

Do you have an architect for this project? If a kitchen extension, some Majlis would have 'standard plans' sold at a fixed price from the department, and it does not involve architects in the process. So I deduce that when there is no architect, no one is signing the CCC, hence it is not required. I cannot confirm this, since like I say previously, as I work in an architect's office, the owners engage us to do things which require the services of an architect.
Like I mentioned above, check directly with your Majlis.

This post has been edited by 2387581: Jun 2 2017, 11:38 AM

Can, a few weeks to a few months. There's no rush anyway.
Engage an architect or registered building draftman to do submission on your behalf. Remember to check on Lembaga Arkitek Malaysia website to verify their names before you engage one. Avoid those 'runners', their functions are getting lesser and lesser.

is your area mpsj? if so you can refer to the following:

The main contractor should be registered with CIDB, whereas there are a few trades need to be registered with their respective bodies, for example, sanitary contractor needs to be registered with SPAN, electrical contractor needs to be registered with ST (energy commission), telecom contractor to be registered with MCMC and so on. All the Forms contained inside CCC are to be jointly signed by:
- main contractor and architect
- trade contractor and engineer and architect
- where the form is not applicable, declared so and signed by architect

There is a misconception of MPSJ (or other council) approved/certified consultants.
I wish to highlight to everyone that, under Malaysian law, there are no such thing that an architect or engineer needs to be certified by a local authority council (like MPSJ)
An architect needs to be registered with Board of Architects Malaysia (Lembaga Arkitek Malaysia) and is entitled to submit plans and issue certificates in whole Peninsular Malaysia except Sabah and Sarawak (Sabahan architect can practice in Sabah and Peninsular; Sarawak similar rule)
An engineer needs to be registered with Board of Engineers Malaysia (BEM) and is entitled to submit plans and issue certificates following rules like architect mentioned above.

A LAM-registered building draughtsman, however, needs to be registered with each and every local authority to practice in those areas. But in the latest law, LAM will not have anymore new building draughtsman...wait until this batch of draughtsman cease to practice, the market will only left with architects to deal with buildings.

trade contractors are more commonly known as their job titles, like plumbers, electrician, etc. - usually the main contractor sub the jobs to these, so they are parked under the main contractor's responsibility. The owner and consultants usually do not directly deal with the trade contractors, unless they are nominated contractor (direct contract with owner).

engineers mean primarily 4 types involved in building construction - they are the one who design the systems and structures
- civil engineer (earthworks, road, drainage, sewerage mains, etc)
- structural engineer (structures)
- mechanical engineer (plumbing, internal sewerage)
- electrical engineer (electrical)

LAM - Lembaga Arkitek Malaysia (Board of Architects Malaysia) - it is a governmental body established to enforce the Architects Act, to keep a register of all architects, draughtsman, interior designers, inspector of works, architectural technologists; and to regulate, educate, penalty/punish (in case of offense to the Act).

draughtsman - yes, since no new registration will accepted from 2015 onwards. All draughtsman currently in practice may still renew their registration until they decided to retire. I am not sure why they remove the draughtsman in the latest Architects Act 1967 (2015 amendment). I could come up with many theories but real reason I do not know why. Theoretically your assumption is correct, and applies to all building constructions, but factories, see blow.

factories - some local authorities accept engineers as the principal submitting person (PSP - sign plans and issue CCC), due to the fact that some factories is highly specialised scope, especially oil & gas (like the RAPID project). However, mass factories (like housing estates) still require architects acting as PSP.

This post has been edited by 2387581: Jan 5 2018, 02:02 PM

haha no Ar yet. Taking exam soon.

Yes, registered building draughtsman can submit plans not exceeding 2-storeys in height providing that the total built up floor area does not exceed 300sqm in any project.

it is a very bizarre thing we still cannot comprehend that we still need the local authority to approve drawings. Because it is the principal submitting person (architects, engineers or building draughtsman) who issue CCC. Local authority has no liabilities, all liabilities are borne by the consultants and contractors.

Actually they have their own stamp, so they can submit plans, within the limits, and yes, you can say that.
You can find more info here: http://www.lam.gov.my/index.php/registrati...raughtsmen.html

The draftsman you see architecture or engineering offices are hiring nowadays, basically means CAD operator in today's sense. They draw, architects check and sign. But more and more architect's offices I know of they are not looking for draftsman anymore...they prefer architecture graduate because at least they have proper training in building design.

I have met some very experienced draftsman, they are fast and knowledgeable who know what and why they are drawing in such way, so they can actually design; I also have met some draftsman who have absolutely no idea the logic behind drawings...they simply produce the drawings according to the designer's sketches. Some draftsman perhaps only has training in the software but not in building design.

The answer to it was inside the link I posted in my previous post

Yes you can. Only owner can sign this one, while need to get witness signature (by commissioner of oath/magistrate/section court judge)
That is the extent I can gauge from the content of the file, but I do not know what this is ultimately for.
My guess is that this is a special provision for those illegal renovations (done before 1 June 2014) and now they are applying for approvals and CCC.
Because the under the CCC system, some forms needs to be signed by CIDB-registered contractors. But most if not all those illegal renovations are done by non-CIDB-registered contractors or it has been too long, lost contact, etc. So as the owner you have to declare that the works are done according to the approved plans (which are approved post-construction).
My guess is that this letter will replace some forms under the CCC, and will be attached alongside the Borang F; whereby the Borang F can only be issued by architect or registered building draughtsman, whom is the one who did the submission for your house under this special program.

This post has been edited by 2387581: Jan 7 2018, 01:39 AM

Architect is governed by Lembaga Arkitek Malaysia (LAM) under Architect's Act 1967 (Act 117)
Contractor is governed by Construction Industry Development Board (CIDB) under CIDB Act (Act 520)

Architect generally design, submit plans for approval, inspect construction and certify a building & payment to contractor.
Contractor construct the building.

Architect cannot submit a plan if he/she is not registered under LAM. Architect don't need to register with CIDB.
Your case, most likely the contractor is not registered under CIDB (illegal contractor).

For CCC to be issued, a large part of the G-Forms needs to be signed by a CIDB registered contractor.

CIDB and LAM (and architect) have not been doing their job of informing owners on the paramount of engaging proper registered contractor only.

Friendly advice: if you doing regular maintenance of building, like replacing toilet bowl, replacing tiles, painting job, etc. Then you can use those unregistered contractors, because there are no submission involved. But if you doing anything which needs submission, make sure you ask the contractor to give you CIDB registration cert at the beginning. Company registration with SSM does not mean they are registered with CIDB.