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post Sep 13 2016, 01:53 PM

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QUOTE(Vanguard 2015 @ Sep 13 2016, 12:07 PM)
Boss, saya tahu Eastspring Global Leaders is also a feeder fund. Tapi it feeds into ONE global fund only and not THREE separate global funds no?

Err...why is the 0.16% expense ratio not accurate? Please enlighten me.  notworthy.gif
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Try read the annual report and see the management fee notes
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QUOTE(dasecret @ Sep 13 2016, 01:46 PM)
Bean counter's type geeky topic. Let me try to answer that

Previously something like this was discussed in the PRS thread on those PRS funds that feed into existing UTF

So for Global leaders, similarly the management fees was charged by the M&G fund as reflected in NAV daily, the management fee would then be refunded to EI Global Leaders and it is netted off against the management fee charged by EI Global Leaders. As a result the MER would look ridiculously low, but you obviously still pay management fee la, fund managers don't work for free

Excerpt from the accounts
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Thanks for the explanation Dasecret.

QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Sep 13 2016, 01:53 PM)
Try read the annual report and see the management fee notes
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Thanks.....but reading the annual report...urghh......

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post Sep 13 2016, 02:30 PM

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QUOTE(suilow1991 @ Sep 13 2016, 12:34 PM)
mirror image bond fund as in bond fund in same fund house? so for your example, it only works between EI EQ- EI bond but not the CMF as bond fund part rite? what if the volatile fund is the same fund house as CMF, then simple switching in between will work without another mirror image bond fund? just want to know out of curiosity.
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Yes, you are right. Mirror bond fund as in bond fund in the same fund house. It cannot work with CMF which is a "parking" account.

But I repeat, not advisable to switch in and out for unit trust investments. Follow Pink Spider. His approach is the correct one.

Don't follow Vanguard. He may make money in the short run only for his "gambling" portion of his overall portfolio.
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QUOTE(Vanguard 2015 @ Sep 13 2016, 02:30 PM)
But I repeat, not advisable to switch in and out for unit trust investments. Follow Pink Spider. His approach is the correct one.
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Please explain what is the Pinky method innocent.gif
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post Sep 13 2016, 02:42 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Sep 13 2016, 02:36 PM)
Please explain what is the Pinky method innocent.gif
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Let me explain to you Pinky method....

Pinky Method:

When local stock market is good, he cabut and go punting over there to cari makan.

When local stock market not so good, susah cari makan, he comes back to UTC to earn some dedak ayam and wait for market to hot up again.

Xuzen

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QUOTE(dasecret @ Sep 13 2016, 01:46 PM)
Bean counter's type geeky topic. Let me try to answer that

Previously something like this was discussed in the PRS thread on those PRS funds that feed into existing UTF

So for Global leaders, similarly the management fees was charged by the M&G fund as reflected in NAV daily, the management fee would then be refunded to EI Global Leaders and it is netted off against the management fee charged by EI Global Leaders. As a result the MER would look ridiculously low, but you obviously still pay management fee la, fund managers don't work for free

Excerpt from the accounts
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CIMB GTF however, I have no explanation for why the MER is so high. Perhaps someone should write to them to demand for an explanation  hmm.gif
*that person is not me*
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nah.. SELL SELL SELL <'ala Kramer-style> tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Vanguard 2015 @ Sep 13 2016, 11:53 AM)
I have read the queries here about which is the better global funds to invest in. If I have to choose only one fund, I will pick CIMB Global Titans Fund.

It is a actually "a fund of funds", i.e. holding a collection of other unit trusts. CIMB Global Titans currently invests as a feeder fund into 3 separate global equity funds which focus on US, Europe and Japan. So, you are paying 3 for the price of 1.

That I assume, explains why the annual expense ratio of CIMB Global Titans is much higher at 1.99% compared to Eastspring Global Leaders Funds which only has an annual expense ratio of 0.16%.
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Then TA Euro Equity is even better because feed into 5 funds
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QUOTE(xuzen @ Sep 13 2016, 02:42 PM)
Let me explain to you Pinky method....

Pinky Method:

When local stock market is good, he cabut and go punting over there to cari makan.

When local stock market not so good, susah cari makan, he comes back to UTC to earn some dedak ayam and wait for market to hot up again.

Xuzen
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Index may be good may be bad, but opportunities are there all the time. innocent.gif

When trolls datang FSM thread main kacau or when there are UT dividen fans spewing cow dung here, Pinky comes back to flush them down the IWK sewage channels. rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Sep 13 2016, 02:36 PM)
Please explain what is the Pinky method innocent.gif
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As explained by Xuzen. biggrin.gif

But seriously, the Pinky Method is the buy and hold method. Doing DCA or VCA. Portfolio rebalancing once a year if the "alignment" is out of sync (I assume). Standard textbook stuff. Easy to understand but difficult to practise.
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QUOTE(Vanguard 2015 @ Sep 13 2016, 03:04 PM)
As explained by Xuzen.  biggrin.gif

But seriously, the Pinky Method is the buy and hold method. Doing DCA or VCA. Portfolio rebalancing once a year if the "alignment" is out of sync (I assume). Standard textbook stuff. Easy to understand but difficult to practise.
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Correct a bit.

I rebalance when the allocation runs >10% from planned, this is actually FSM's method.

E.g. planned to have 30% in Developed Markets. When allocation drops to 28%, do nothing. When drops to 26%, top up (amount to top up depends on discretion) to bring back up to at least above 27%.
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QUOTE(Styrroyds @ Sep 13 2016, 03:01 PM)
Then TA Euro Equity is even better because feed into 5 funds
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Based on its fund sheet, I think it feeds into 8 separate global funds. But all the funds are invested in Europe only, hence the name of the fund. So are more funds better? It depends on what your target is.

TA Euro Equity is not a global fund and should not be compared with other global funds like CIMB Global Titans.
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Was looking through RHB Asian Income Fund's Allocation and came across the drawn part.

What does this hedges means to the allocation?


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QUOTE(AIYH @ Sep 13 2016, 04:12 PM)
Was looking through RHB Asian Income Fund's Allocation and came across the drawn part.

What does this hedges means to the allocation?
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Give u an interesting assignment. E-mail to RHB Asset Management and/or FSM and ask about it. wink.gif
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QUOTE(AIYH @ Sep 13 2016, 04:12 PM)
Was looking through RHB Asian Income Fund's Allocation and came across the drawn part.

What does this hedges means to the allocation?
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Currency Risks And Hedging October 12, 2012
With regards to investment risk, investors are often focused on the price of an asset, but sometimes overlook currency risk, which can make a world of difference to one’s investment returns, especially in the context of today’s volatile currency markets.

KNOWING THE MANAGER’S APPROACH TO CURRENCY MANAGEMENT
https://secure.fundsupermart.com/main/resea...?articleNo=7445
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Global Selloff Threatens to Spiral as Central Banks Angst Builds

A selloff in fixed income is showing signs of snowballing into a global market rout.

Shares in Europe and Asia dropped the most since the aftermath of the U.K. Brexit vote in June, and U.S. stock-index futures fell as concern spread that central banks are preparing to wean markets off unprecedented stimulus. Treasuries extended their slide into a fourth day as the U.S. prepared to sell three- and 10-year notes, and the yield on benchmark German bunds reached the highest since Britain’s decision to exit the European Union was confirmed. Oil sank toward $45 a barrel as nickel tumbled the most in four weeks. The yen advanced and the won slid. Samsung Electronics Co. tumbled after airlines and regulators warned against the use of its Note 7 smartphones.

http://www.hellenicshippingnews.com/global...s-angst-builds/

checked unit trusts today and saw everything was blood red. TA Global tumbled 1%

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QUOTE(xuzen @ Sep 13 2016, 12:26 PM)
In theory one may think that he would entail greater autonomy to invest separately into three UTF from three different UTMC, namely CIMB China or Manulife India and RHB Indonesia. But consider this, each time you rebalance your portfolio, you incur sales charge. This is foolish!

If that is the case, a wiser man, would consider, suppose I buy into RHB China-India-Indonesia fund with one time sales charge and let the FM do the rebalancing without further encountering sales charge. This is wiser!

Suppose another wiser man, thinking perhaps I wish to maintain autonomy and do not wish to further incur sales charge.

Such wise man then uses the "wrap account" mechanism and writes his own algorithm to assist him to optimally asset allocate between the three geographical risky asset class.

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Wise words! Copied this down for reference. thumbup.gif

I have just make use of Boss Vanguard's credit ninja trick. So excited to see credits from switches for the first time in my portfolio. Cool! rclxm9.gif

I switched out from those EQ UT that I wanted to drop into Bond funds first. But I only did that to EQ that is currently in the red. The rest in green I no touch first until I see red then only switch out. Yesterday did one intra-switch and tonight one inter-switch. That inter-switch one is not exactly in the red but since it is a very small sum so I taruk lor. Wanted to buy into Libra Asnita Bond fund fast fast. biggrin.gif

QUOTE(dasecret @ Sep 13 2016, 12:23 AM)
Timely reminder there. So assuming I didn't quite missed the boat and currently has 16% IRR for this fund. What's your recommendation, hold or sell? USD n SGD inching higher  drool.gif
Selling a reasonably healthy fund seems to be counter intuitive to me
1. The RHB ATR feeds into the SGD class
2. I think he was talking about the gains in 2014-2015 mainly came from forex gains against SGD, and USD (RMB loosely pegged to USD); hence why missed the boat if you try to buy it in 2016.
As a result, the investment horizon may not be so critical here

The United Asian Bond (SGD) class returns as attached
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The longer term annualised return is still about 6%-8%. Not too bad, but not what you would get in 2015

p/s: Merely translating techie greek-like language into layman terms  tongue.gif Could have done it completely wrong though
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Thanks for the enlightenment. thumbsup.gif I am still holding ATR right now since it's still green. But I will need to drop it soon when the moment is right since rebalancing is crucial. Then I wouldn't have SGD class in my portfolio liao cry.gif

I missed ATR 2014-2015 boat too. Only bought it late 2015.
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post Sep 13 2016, 08:08 PM

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QUOTE(yuatyi @ Sep 13 2016, 07:32 PM)
Wise words! Copied this down for reference.  thumbup.gif
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Rebalancing doesn't always involve purchase/sale/switching. A minor rebalancing can be achieved via the mean of topup. Read Pinky's post #351 (above).
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Weird. Dunno why my post got reported? I thought I am talking nothing but FSM UT only? hmm.gif

Could anyone enlighten me please? Or if the reporter would kindly let me know what is wrong with my post so I may avoid it in future?

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QUOTE(river.sand @ Sep 13 2016, 08:08 PM)
Rebalancing doesn't always involve purchase/sale/switching. A minor rebalancing can be achieved via the mean of topup. Read Pinky's post #351 (above).
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Thanks for reminder smile.gif Actually I know that. I am currently in need to switching because I have to drop a few funds since it no longer suit my soon to be balanced portfolio. As a newbie, I have been overzealous and bought too many funds and couple of it are actually overlapping each other. That's why I need to drop them while I still can (the fund size is small and currently in red).

Will slowly VA or DCA my way to rebalance the portfolio to my risk appetite. Just need to trim the fats a bit and stay more focus. icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(yuatyi @ Sep 13 2016, 08:24 PM)
Weird. Dunno why my post got reported? I thought I am talking nothing but FSM UT only?  hmm.gif

Could anyone enlighten me please? Or if the reporter would kindly let me know what is wrong with my post so I may avoid it in future?
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is there a way from the reported message to ask back the administrator?
seems like if there is no way to know what you did wrong...don't give a damn lor.
seems like people suka-suka report and you worry...
don't give a damn lor. if the system did not tell you why.....
how can you improve to 'comply" with their requirement if you do not know what you did not conform.


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