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post Sep 3 2016, 09:41 PM, updated 10y ago

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1. Modern integrated green township is located in the North-West of Klang Valley, or Ijok in Kuala Selangor;
2. It is 45km from the Kuala Lumpur city centre, 40km from the Petaling Jaya and 18km from the Sungai Buloh town centre;
3. Access to Kuala Lumpur via Guthrie Corridor Expressway, KL-Kuala Selangor Expressway, North South Expressway and the two upcoming highways, the proposed Damansara-Shah Alam Expressway and the West Coast Expressway (completion: 2019).

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Hi all,

To be sincere, wrong means wrong,
Why I said wrong is because you will not get 1521sqft (Graham, Type A, intermediate)
base on layout dimension.

Also, in this case, I profess the purchasers or potential buyers would not be able to get correct psf base on overall selling price.
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William gor, congraz on EG thread V2....

AT LAST we no need to wait V2 till next week....
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QUOTE(samkps @ Sep 3 2016, 09:42 PM)
Hooray, blow till version 2....  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(Jasoncat @ Sep 3 2016, 09:44 PM)
Well done! V2 and more to come! thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(mascot_lim @ Sep 3 2016, 10:10 PM)
William gor, congraz on EG thread V2....

AT LAST we no need to wait V2 till next week....
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Sep 3 2016, 10:23 PM)
check in V2 to blow water laugh.gif rclxm9.gif
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Continue blow till V10 rclxm9.gif
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post Sep 4 2016, 09:48 AM

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Hi all. I'm a frequent visitor but first time posting. Like a lot of them here in extremely interested in this project. I just visited the sales gallery yesterday and as usual the treatment and environment was top class.

Just wanted to share that according to the sales agent the discount for non bumi at this point is 5% and for non bumi is 12%. According to the sales agent official launch will be in this month.

Since this is my first time trying to actually buy a house may I know what is the usual procedures especially when dealing with eco. The sale agent told me that if I'm interested in can pay 10k to book and apparently it's refundable. Appreciate if anyone else can confirm and provide more details on this practice.

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QUOTE(lustremoon @ Sep 4 2016, 12:38 PM)
Hi all. I'm a frequent visitor but first time posting. Like a lot of them here in extremely interested in this project. I just visited the sales gallery yesterday and as usual the treatment and environment was top class.

Just wanted to share that according to the sales agent the discount for non bumi at this point is 5% and for non bumi is 12%. According to the sales agent official launch will be in this month.

Since this is my first time trying to actually buy a house may I know what is the usual procedures especially when dealing with eco. The sale agent told me that if I'm interested in can pay 10k to book and apparently it's refundable. Appreciate if anyone else can confirm and provide more details on this practice.

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QUOTE(DS4 @ Sep 3 2016, 10:03 PM)
Hi all,

To be sincere, wrong means wrong,
Why I said wrong is because you will not get 1521sqft (Graham, Type A, intermediate)
base on layout dimension.

Also, in this case, I profess the purchasers or potential buyers would not be able to get correct psf base on overall selling price.
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For me the size built up is like a decent duplex aprtment 800sqft smile.gif

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QUOTE(mascot_lim @ Sep 4 2016, 12:58 PM)
May i know what details u wan to know?
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About the 10K so called booking fees. It is refundable right? And also, what happens once I actually book the house? What do I need to pay for and prepare? I'm sorry if this is not the right place to enquire....
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QUOTE(lustremoon @ Sep 4 2016, 01:57 PM)
About the 10K so called booking fees. It is refundable right? And also, what happens once I actually book the house? What do I need to pay for and prepare? I'm sorry if this is not the right place to enquire....
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After you booked the unit, you need to look for bank loan. After secure the bank loan, need to sign the SPA. During signing the SPA, you need to settle the 10% downpayment (after minus the 10k + discount).
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QUOTE(lustremoon @ Sep 4 2016, 01:57 PM)
About the 10K so called booking fees. It is refundable right? And also, what happens once I actually book the house? What do I need to pay for and prepare? I'm sorry if this is not the right place to enquire....
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you need to find out from SA if the 10k refundable:-
1. no question ask. they just refund in full or
2. need to provide loan rejection letter(s) baru refund

if you unsure...get them to give you in black and white.

also good to ask if the discount 5% off 1st 10% down payment or they will split it.
also ask if the discount net of SPA price or gross of SPA price.

also need to know after you have secure the loan agreement, make sure you are definitely proceed with purchase otherwise there is penalty clause......if you decided to rescind the signed offer letter. usually the lawyer will get you to sign the spa and loan agreement same time.

at time of signing SPA, you need to pay the 10% minus 10k booking fee and discount. if EW pau legal fee spa fee and loan agreement fee....otherwise you need to know what hidden cost you need to pay. MOT usually not free under developer for lishold projects.
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ECO WORLD Development Group Bhd’s (EcoWorld) newest modern integrated green township is located in the North-West of Klang Valley, or Ijok in Kuala Selangor.

It is 45km from the Kuala Lumpur city centre, 40km from the Petaling Jaya and 18km from the Sungai Buloh town centre.

Slated for launch this month, its initial offering will be double-storey landed Graham Garden within Eco Grandeur. The British-sounding Graham Garden makes up about 10% of the township’s residential offering.

EcoWorld’s president and CEO Datuk Chang Khim Wah says: “These homes are affordable without compromising on quality and are targeted at first-time home owners.”

There are several reasons why Chang says Graham Garden provides good value. The strata precinct is gated and guarded with perimeter fencing and a central guard house to facilitate visitor management system. The other is the fact that these are landed units. Access to Kuala Lumpur City Centre and the rest of the Klang Valley is via the Salient features of Graham Garden, which is priced just below RM500,000 for intermediate units

> Number of units: over 1,000

> Type: Landed double- storey

> Tenure: Leasehold, gated and guarded

> Size: 20ft x 65ft

> Built-up: From 1,521 sq ft

Facilties:

> Community hall

> Surau

> Future kindergarten

> Access to Kuala Lumpur via Guthrie Corridor Expressway, KL-Kuala Selangor Expressway, North South Expressway and the two upcoming highways, the proposed Damansara-Shah Alam Expressway and the West Coast Expressway (completion: 2019).
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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Sep 4 2016, 02:52 PM)
you need to find out from SA if the 10k refundable:-
1. no question ask. they just refund in full or
2. need to provide loan rejection letter(s) baru refund

if you unsure...get them to give you in black and white.

also good to ask if the discount 5% off 1st 10% down payment or they will split it.
also ask if the discount net of SPA price or gross of SPA price.

also need to know after you have secure the loan agreement, make sure you are definitely proceed with purchase otherwise there is penalty clause......if you decided to rescind the signed offer letter. usually the lawyer will get you to sign the spa and loan agreement same time.

at time of signing SPA, you need to pay the 10% minus 10k booking fee and discount. if EW pau legal fee spa fee and loan agreement fee....otherwise you need to know what hidden cost you need to pay. MOT usually not free under developer for lishold projects.
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For the loan, of course it will be insured right? Its call MRTT/MRTA. my question:
1.how much will be? Does it work like some percentage from the SPA price?

2. After got the figure xxx (question no.1), can it be lump into the loan? And per ur observation, normally people will lump it into the loan or pay separately to reduce the monthly installment?

3. After recently changing of the BLR rates news coming out, whats the best/cheapest interest to fight for Graham price range? 4.4%? Or <4.4%? Or >4.4%?

4. Any bank u've heard offer the cheapest so far?

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QUOTE(lustremoon @ Sep 4 2016, 12:38 PM)
Just wanted to share that according to the sales agent the discount for non bumi at this point is 5% and for non bumi is 12%. According to the sales agent official launch will be in this month.
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Did the SA reveal the date?
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Sep 5 2016, 08:12 AM)
Did the SA reveal the date?
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I think a lot of pipus wait till neck also long d for unit selection date.....
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QUOTE(mascot_lim @ Sep 5 2016, 09:12 AM)
I think a lot of pipus wait till neck also long d for unit selection date.....
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Haha it means this project is being well received by public rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(daniel125 @ Sep 5 2016, 09:15 AM)
Haha it means this project is being well received by public  rclxms.gif
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wow.... after reading through thread 1... suddenly bcum heated discussion... wad the heck....? this is an open forum... chui shui also kena shot kao kao..... ohmy.gif ohmy.gif ohmy.gif
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QUOTE(DS4 @ Sep 3 2016, 10:03 PM)
Hi all,

To be sincere, wrong means wrong,
Why I said wrong is because you will not get 1521sqft (Graham, Type A, intermediate)
base on layout dimension.

Also, in this case, I profess the purchasers or potential buyers would not be able to get correct psf base on overall selling price.
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based on your professional own calculation... what would be the price psf of Graham Type A intermediate would be...? and maybe you can calculate the price psf of Hillpark similar intermediate double storey uni...? see whether EW are overcharging the consumers? see what are the top EW is doing against its substandard neighbour developer would be the most obvious comparison?
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Sep 5 2016, 09:48 AM)
based on your professional own calculation... what would be the price psf of Graham Type A intermediate would be...? and maybe you can calculate the price psf of Hillpark similar intermediate double storey uni...? see whether EW are overcharging the consumers? see what are the top EW is doing against its substandard neighbour developer would be the most obvious comparison?
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Can't do so bro. As what he had mentioned we shouldn't compare with other dev. EW is a top brand so they must do the right thing tongue.gif
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QUOTE(daniel125 @ Sep 5 2016, 10:06 AM)
Can't do so bro. As what he had mentioned we shouldn't compare with other dev. EW is a top brand so they must do the right thing  tongue.gif
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blink.gif blink.gif blink.gif headache la macam ini... haha.... doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif so if i am an accountant... i say everything u calculated is wrong... professionally wise must be confirm wrong? irregardless of what is the real world practice will be? haha...
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heard from radio today saying this grandeur is connected with 5 major higways. no blow water?
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QUOTE(daniel125 @ Sep 5 2016, 10:06 AM)
Can't do so bro. As what he had mentioned we shouldn't compare with other dev. EW is a top brand so they must do the right thing  tongue.gif
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Sep 5 2016, 10:12 AM)
blink.gif  blink.gif  blink.gif headache la macam ini... haha....  doh.gif  doh.gif  doh.gif so if i am an accountant... i say everything u calculated is wrong... professionally wise must be confirm wrong? irregardless of what is the real world practice will be? haha...
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Exactly. In brief it is pointless to discuss further if one cannot hold unbiased view.
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QUOTE(peri peri @ Sep 5 2016, 10:13 AM)
heard from radio today saying this grandeur is connected with 5 major higways. no blow water?
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As copied from the press:
Access to Kuala Lumpur via Guthrie Corridor Expressway, KL-Kuala Selangor Expressway, North South Expressway and the two upcoming highways, the proposed Damansara-Shah Alam Expressway and the West Coast Expressway (completion: 2019).

Blow water or not? laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Jasoncat @ Sep 5 2016, 10:24 AM)
As copied from the press:
Access to Kuala Lumpur via Guthrie Corridor Expressway, KL-Kuala Selangor Expressway, North South Expressway and the two upcoming highways, the proposed Damansara-Shah Alam Expressway and the West Coast Expressway (completion: 2019).

Blow water or not? laugh.gif
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thumbup.gif thumbup.gif thumbup.gif thumbup.gif yea.... this part i agreed its true... but whether everyone need to use those highways anot will be a deciding factor on whether they wanna vest in this area.... biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
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Thank you so much, samkps and beancounter. I shall work on finding out more information as advised.

Meanwhile, as most of you are definitely more experienced/knowledgeable - I would like to pose a question.

Based on the limited information on Eco Grandeur and taking into account the location and development of Puncak Alam, what is your opinion on buying a property here? What do you think are the pros and cons?

Based on my limited knowledge, these are what I think for now:

1. As a first time buyer for ownstay purposes, the price is certainly reasonable for the size (of course, due to location as well)
2. Although the location is pretty far from KL/PJ, I am banking on the completion of DASH and UiTM campus with the hospital
3. It is gated and guarded plus by a well known developer

Any other pros/cons that I should consider? Appreciate your inputs.


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QUOTE(lustremoon @ Sep 5 2016, 10:36 AM)
Thank you so much, samkps and beancounter. I shall work on finding out more information as advised.

Meanwhile, as most of you are definitely more experienced/knowledgeable - I would like to pose a question.

Based on the limited information on Eco Grandeur and taking into account the location and development of Puncak Alam, what is your opinion on buying a property here? What do you think are the pros and cons?

Based on my limited knowledge, these are what I think for now:

1. As a first time buyer for ownstay purposes, the price is certainly reasonable for the size (of course, due to location as  well)
2. Although the location is pretty far from KL/PJ, I am banking on the completion of DASH and UiTM campus with the hospital
3. It is gated and guarded plus by a well known developer

Any other pros/cons that I should consider? Appreciate your inputs.
Thanks!
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THE CON (ahem): are u ready for the jam, the stressful long distance drive to work? what you gonna do if your social circle constantly at KL or other areas which require more than 1 hour drive? to stay in an ulu location just for the sake of landed? who knows how long those facilities and the township will be matured? god knows where are you if you stay in now? do you wanna pour in your hard earned money in this location?(this is what everyone usually says anyway)....

anyhow... i currently staying in cheras... looking for a landed... i working around PJ area... and I vested in this area... I wont say u wont regret.... but i tried to test the peak hours journey... the weekend journey... visit the area during weekend and weekdays... i would say... i can see the potential in this area... with UITM and potential super hospital... if the government willing to take a look in this area... and the developments are in line with the government vision... potential definitely be there... thats what i tot.... don't bash me ya... haha...

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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Sep 5 2016, 10:44 AM)
THE CON (ahem): are u ready for the jam, the stressful long distance drive to work? what you gonna do if your social circle constantly at KL or other areas which require more than 1 hour drive? to stay in an ulu location just for the sake of landed? who knows how long those facilities and the township will be matured? god knows where are you if you stay in now? do you wanna pour in your hard earned money in this location?(this is what everyone usually says anyway)....

anyhow... i currently staying in cheras... looking for a landed... i working around PJ area... and I vested in this area... I wont say u wont regret.... but i tried to test the peak hours journey... the weekend journey... visit the area during weekend and weekdays... i would say... i can see the potential in this area... with UITM and potential super hospital... if the government willing to take a look in this area... and the developments are in line with the government vision... potential definitely be there... thats what i tot.... don't bash me ya... haha...
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Thanks for your response aaron1717, so you have actually bought a property in puncak alam? Hillpark or something else, if you don't mind sharing?

Yes, I must say I am contemplating the travelling time and traffic. I currently stay in PJ and work in KL. I have been to Puncak Alam during weekends and obviously the traffic jam is not an issue. But I can imagine the jam during weekdays since it is just one long stretch of a road before exit.

Like I mentioned, I am really considering the DASH highway as a factor. And, based on the SA, the phase 1 will be completed around end of 2019 hopefully things get better by then. Also, with the building of a hospital - I suppose more focus will be given to the highway and other infrastructures....
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QUOTE(lustremoon @ Sep 5 2016, 11:11 AM)
Thanks for your response aaron1717, so you have actually bought a property in puncak alam? Hillpark or something else, if you don't mind sharing?

Yes, I must say I am contemplating the travelling time and traffic. I currently stay in PJ and work in KL. I have been to Puncak Alam during weekends and obviously the traffic jam is not an issue. But I can imagine the jam during weekdays since it is just one long stretch of a road before exit.

Like I mentioned, I am really considering the DASH highway as a factor. And, based on the SA, the phase 1 will be completed around end of 2019 hopefully things get better by then. Also, with the building of a hospital - I suppose more focus will be given to the highway and other infrastructures....
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yea... i bought EG neighbour's hillpark... i did tried to travel to KL during peak hours on weekdays.... yea... it really depends on whether you are such person which really can live in a car for at least 2 hours plus everyday... the jam... plus the distance... might really tortured you... if you working in KL... maybe u can consider also the landed in Kajang/Semenyih... Rawang... Puchong South... and see which one would you prefer to travel from to KL more... must try to experience the jam during weekdays at least to know how it feel will really helps you... biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

DASH cant help much if you working in KL for the rest of your life... haha.... and to most of the new townships... they building it beside the matured townships like PJ or in semenyih case, cheras... the main point is for those who not considered KL as their main living area anymore... and for those who can stand the jam... I can stand the jam... last time i drive to college also taking 2 hours per day to and from... except the days where there was no late classes... biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Sep 5 2016, 10:12 AM)
blink.gif  blink.gif  blink.gif headache la macam ini... haha....  doh.gif  doh.gif  doh.gif so if i am an accountant... i say everything u calculated is wrong... professionally wise must be confirm wrong? irregardless of what is the real world practice will be? haha...
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Wrong means wrong, because he said so... biggrin.gif biggrin.gif Others cannot say correct.. biggrin.gif



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QUOTE(samkps @ Sep 5 2016, 11:59 AM)
Wrong means wrong, because he said so...  biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif Others cannot say correct..  biggrin.gif
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Technically speaking, out by RM0.01 is consider not correct n wrong tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Jasoncat @ Sep 5 2016, 10:24 AM)
As copied from the press:
Access to Kuala Lumpur via Guthrie Corridor Expressway, KL-Kuala Selangor Expressway, North South Expressway and the two upcoming highways, the proposed Damansara-Shah Alam Expressway and the West Coast Expressway (completion: 2019).

Blow water or not? laugh.gif
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None of them is direct link I suppose? I feel a little surprise as it doesn't see like EW style.. hmm.gif
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QUOTE(samkps @ Sep 5 2016, 12:04 PM)
None of them is direct link I suppose? I feel a little surprise as it doesn't see like EW style..  hmm.gif
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Indeed, I think this is probably first EW township which don't have direct access to the highway.
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None of them is direct link I suppose? I feel a little surprise as it doesn't see like EW style..  hmm.gif
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What do you mean? Could you please elaborate?
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QUOTE(samkps @ Sep 5 2016, 12:04 PM)
None of them is direct link I suppose? I feel a little surprise as it doesn't see like EW style..  hmm.gif
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so far no direct link to highway .. still need to use normal route to go to highway
need to upgarde jalan PMD & jalan meru tambahan (to seri coalfield) for a better access
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QUOTE(lustremoon @ Sep 5 2016, 12:11 PM)
What do you mean? Could you please elaborate?
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By default, they will b direct interchange into their new township
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What do you mean? Could you please elaborate?
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Normally EW shall build a dedicated direct access from their township to a highway, such as building a new tol in EcoMajestic to exit LEKAS highway.

However, it seems EW do not plan to build any direct link for EG, instead resident still need to drive along the federal road before entering to highway. When there are more and more people move in, it may create traffic congestion if resident still need to go throrugh this federal route (normally single lane).
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QUOTE(bob @ Sep 5 2016, 12:34 PM)
so far no direct link to highway .. still need to use normal route to go to highway
need to upgarde jalan PMD & jalan meru tambahan (to seri coalfield) for a better access
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So far from the traffic light of Jalan Meru tambahan to the traffic light in front of Bandar Serio Coalfield will be upgraded by EcoWorld to 6 lanes as per the conditions for their DO approval.
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Just wondering where is Laman Haris?
Report state it in Eco Grandeur. mega_shok.gif

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QUOTE(alankong @ Sep 5 2016, 02:20 PM)
http://www.enanyang.my/news/20160904/%E7%B...BA%BF%E6%88%BF/

Just wondering where is Laman Haris?
Report state it in Eco Grandeur.  mega_shok.gif
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Lam Haris is the plot of land next to the traffic light of Jalan PMD. most of the settlements residents will be relocate to here, with dozens of amenities will be at this plot of land.....as per their masterplan.
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QUOTE(mascot_lim @ Sep 5 2016, 02:18 PM)
So far from the traffic light of Jalan Meru tambahan to the traffic light in front of Bandar Serio Coalfield will be upgraded by EcoWorld to 6 lanes as per the conditions for their DO approval.
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Do you mean Jalan Cerakah? I did asked SA regarding any road upgrade to LATAR or PMD will be done by EW but SA say no.

Where can we get the DO approval tnc?

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QUOTE(propusers @ Sep 5 2016, 02:44 PM)
Do you mean Jalan Cerakah? I did asked SA regarding any road upgrade to LATAR or PMD will be done by EW but SA say no.

Where can we get the DO approval tnc?
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LATAR i think EW will build one new road pass thru the EW Business park V, and connected to the new LATAR interchange by EW (which I think quite a distance from EG, and migh not favorable to motorists which LATAR seldom got peoples use).....

as for Jalan PMD, EW will upgrade the road on their part only, not whole stretch of Jalan PMD, as well as future upgrade of bridge and underpass near traffic light of PMD. You can see this in their masterplan as well.
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QUOTE(alankong @ Sep 5 2016, 02:20 PM)
http://www.enanyang.my/news/20160904/%E7%B...BA%BF%E6%88%BF/

Just wondering where is Laman Haris?
Report state it in Eco Grandeur.  mega_shok.gif
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if i still remember what SA mention to me, it is this plot of land (blue arrow).
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QUOTE(mascot_lim @ Sep 5 2016, 02:26 PM)
Lam Haris is the plot of land next to the traffic light of Jalan PMD. most of the settlements residents will be relocate to here, with dozens of amenities will be at this plot of land.....as per their masterplan.
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Do you mean Alam Perdana?
Is this why EW reserved some Aveham&Graham units for BA?
Actually is for settlements residents?
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if i still remember what SA mention to me, it is this plot of land (blue arrow).
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QUOTE(mascot_lim @ Sep 5 2016, 12:07 PM)
Indeed, I think this is probably first EW township which don't have direct access to the highway.
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LATAR i think EW will build one new road pass thru the EW Business park V, and connected to the new LATAR interchange by EW (which I think quite a distance from EG, and migh not favorable to motorists which LATAR seldom got peoples use).....

as for Jalan PMD, EW will upgrade the road on their part only, not whole stretch of Jalan PMD, as well as future upgrade of bridge and underpass near traffic light of PMD. You can see this in their masterplan as well.
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Thank you for the info.

EW will upgrade the road on their part only to 6 lanes? Is it the road indicated below (yellow line)?
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QUOTE(mascot_lim @ Sep 5 2016, 02:50 PM)
LATAR i think EW will build one new road pass thru the EW Business park V, and connected to the new LATAR interchange by EW (which I think quite a distance from EG, and migh not favorable to motorists which LATAR seldom got peoples use).....

as for Jalan PMD, EW will upgrade the road on their part only, not whole stretch of Jalan PMD, as well as future upgrade of bridge and underpass near traffic light of PMD. You can see this in their masterplan as well.
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I more concern on DASH and Guthrie.
Latar only when travel to Kuala Selagor or Sekinchan on weekend.
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Thank you for the info.

EW will upgrade the road on their part only to 6 lanes? Is it the road indicated below (yellow line)?
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I more concern on DASH and Guthrie.
Latar only when travel to Kuala Selagor or Sekinchan on weekend.
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Indeed, Personally I think DASH is more important, as you can travel to PJ and KL at discounted travelling time....
Gutherie is useful if we travelling to north to Rawang and NSE....
WCE might be another useful highway for us, but not so soon la I think.
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should have direct access to the highway leh..

if not GG lor cry.gif
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should have direct access to the highway leh..

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Wah, later pipus said EG GG lo then no good la....haha....
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very good lah..

cannot even talk about the no direct link to highway..

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already some butthurt report my post..

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Sep 5 2016, 03:55 PM)
very good lah..

cannot even talk about the no direct link to highway..

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waa so efficient one
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yup..

I take back my word..

EG is the best township ever build.. very good. confirm BBB, sure profit.

no worries. good for investments or own stay

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Sep 5 2016, 03:55 PM)
very good lah..

cannot even talk about the no direct link to highway..

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Hahaha...kesian lo...but that location very hard to make direct access
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Yeah, the yellow one....
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Whole stretch or only until Alam Perdana junction? hmm.gif

There will be a one lane bridge before reaching the BSC junction, shall be extended to 3 lanes as well?


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6 lanes, it's not make sense at that area
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Whole stretch or only until Alam Perdana junction?  hmm.gif

There will be a one lane bridge before reaching the BSC junction, shall be extended to 3 lanes as well?
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this 1 lane bridge is one of the push factor when I was heading to sales gallery from LATAR exit. The road condition is quite terrible.


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Hahaha...kesian lo...but that location very hard to make direct access
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I believe EG residents will be excited if EW can build a direct link/new toll to Gutrie..  brows.gif  brows.gif
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EG right side is very close to Gutrie.
I din't see any point why EW no build direct link.

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QUOTE(mascot_lim @ Sep 5 2016, 03:26 PM)
Indeed, Personally I think DASH is more important, as you can travel to PJ and KL at discounted travelling time....
Gutherie is useful if we travelling to north to Rawang and NSE....
WCE might be another useful highway for us, but not so soon la I think.
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Yup, DASH is the most important.

Guthrie connected to NKVE, alternative way to PJ/Subang/Damansara.

I can use WCE balik kampung. rclxm9.gif
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I believe EG residents will be excited if EW can build a direct link/new toll to Gutrie..  brows.gif  brows.gif
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I asked the SA b4 but he say only can connet to Saujana Utama for the right side of EG, no direct access to Guthrie
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QUOTE(alankong @ Sep 5 2016, 04:25 PM)
EG right side is very close to Gutrie.
I din't see any point why EW no build direct link.
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I also hope if that can build the link to Gutherie, but so far I know, this is a dream remained for us....
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I asked the SA b4 but he say only can connet to Saujana Utama for the right side of EG, no direct access to Guthrie
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Infra involves land acquisition and construction cost, which normally is the first thing SPS/EW shall do for the township project.

Feel quite surprise EW not doing this for EG, perhaps compensated by the relatively low entry price.
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I also hope if that can build the link to Gutherie, but so far I know, this is a dream remained for us....
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Hi all taiko here, i have some doubts on EG.. hope that someone can share some knowledge..

since EG is strata title and claim that no extension allow. For example graham type A & B, the back area is kinda wasted if not allow to extend for wet kitchen or laundry area. And my own opinion, feeling that the tiny balcony upstair attaching the small room instead of master room is really stupid. this may create more concerns. =.=
and we can't build a balcony attach with the master room is really a waste.

I asked the SA before and he said that there will be a "guideline" during VP, does it mean that we can do so called extension based on their guideline or limitation or restriction?


and one more question forgot to ask SA, if loan rejected, how much we can get refund from the 10K deposit?

*sorry for stupid question, i have no idea on landed property with strata title. biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
I take a look on hillpark too, but the latest phase BU is kinda small, but individual title allow me to do any extension i like.. hahaha

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QUOTE(jefflow @ Sep 5 2016, 05:47 PM)
Hi all taiko here, i have some doubts on EG.. hope that someone can share some knowledge..

since EG is strata title and claim that no extension allow. For example graham type A & B, the back area is kinda wasted if not allow to extend for wet kitchen or laundry area. And my own opinion, feeling that the tiny balcony upstair attaching the small room instead of master room is really stupid. this may create more concerns. =.=
and we can't build a balcony attach with the master room is really a waste.

I asked the SA before and he said that there will be a "guideline" during VP, does it mean that we can do so called extension based on their guideline or limitation or restriction?
and one more question forgot to ask SA, if loan rejected, how much we can get refund from the 10K deposit?

*sorry for stupid question, i have no idea on landed property with strata title.  biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif
I take a look on hillpark too, but the latest phase BU is kinda small, but individual title allow me to do any extension i like.. hahaha
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besides, based on the floor plan, i found no toilet from all types able to put in a bathtub as well.
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QUOTE(jefflow @ Sep 5 2016, 05:47 PM)
Hi all taiko here, i have some doubts on EG.. hope that someone can share some knowledge..

since EG is strata title and claim that no extension allow. For example graham type A & B, the back area is kinda wasted if not allow to extend for wet kitchen or laundry area. And my own opinion, feeling that the tiny balcony upstair attaching the small room instead of master room is really stupid. this may create more concerns. =.=
and we can't build a balcony attach with the master room is really a waste.

I asked the SA before and he said that there will be a "guideline" during VP, does it mean that we can do so called extension based on their guideline or limitation or restriction?
and one more question forgot to ask SA, if loan rejected, how much we can get refund from the 10K deposit?

*sorry for stupid question, i have no idea on landed property with strata title.  biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif
I take a look on hillpark too, but the latest phase BU is kinda small, but individual title allow me to do any extension i like.. hahaha
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If loan rejected, you can get back 10K deposit.
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besides, based on the floor plan, i found no toilet from all types able to put in a bathtub as well.
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I'm sure come with big bath room.
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besides, based on the floor plan, i found no toilet from all types able to put in a bathtub as well.
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Let's pray hard.  notworthy.gif  laugh.gif
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I am also hope that DASH and GUTHERIE will directly connected to EG, then we all hoseh liao....just pray hard....
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QUOTE(jefflow @ Sep 5 2016, 05:47 PM)
Hi all taiko here, i have some doubts on EG.. hope that someone can share some knowledge..

since EG is strata title and claim that no extension allow. For example graham type A & B, the back area is kinda wasted if not allow to extend for wet kitchen or laundry area. And my own opinion, feeling that the tiny balcony upstair attaching the small room instead of master room is really stupid. this may create more concerns. =.=
and we can't build a balcony attach with the master room is really a waste.

I asked the SA before and he said that there will be a "guideline" during VP, does it mean that we can do so called extension based on their guideline or limitation or restriction?
and one more question forgot to ask SA, if loan rejected, how much we can get refund from the 10K deposit?

*sorry for stupid question, i have no idea on landed property with strata title.  biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif
I take a look on hillpark too, but the latest phase BU is kinda small, but individual title allow me to do any extension i like.. hahaha
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You will need to sign DMC along the SPA and the extension guideline is available there. Nonetheless, before you can proceed any renovation in future, you will need to apply to the management company.

Balcony atttach to master bedroom most likely is nil.
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I am also hope that DASH and GUTHERIE will directly connected to EG, then we all hoseh liao....just pray hard....
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guthrie maybe ..
but Dash not at all .. too far
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Yup, DASH is the most important.

Guthrie connected to NKVE, alternative way to PJ/Subang/Damansara.

I can use WCE balik kampung.  rclxm9.gif
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WCE is really good. NSE gets super jam when holiday bangwall.gif

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I am also hope that DASH and GUTHERIE will directly connected to EG, then we all hoseh liao....just pray hard....
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Hihi...how many cheque hv collage?
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Sep 5 2016, 04:01 PM)
yup..

I take back my word..

EG is the best township ever build.. very good. confirm BBB, sure profit.

no worries. good for investments or own stay

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Yes, for sure is the best developer in Malaysia,

Wondering if anyone have really look at the annual report?

The fair land value for Eco Santuary is fantastic.

(Don't forget nearby still got Rimbayu and Aman to compare)

Always be a smart investor by critically appraise subject company.



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Hihi...how many cheque hv collage?
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Im not sure how many, but i asked a SA last last week, she said that she can't confirm, jz told me that around more than 100. it doesn't like what many expect selling super hot cake that have to wait for ballot...
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Bro, you should buy semi-D or bungalow instead.
I'm sure come with big bath room.
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can get 10K 100% refund?


bro, semi-D or bungalow come with bathtub d.. that time is thinking to put in a jacuzzi.. haha..

nowadays many DSL master bathroom also able to put in bathtub d.. depends on the layout.. since EG is strata title and not able to "modify", it is quite a waste.. haha..

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QUOTE(jefflow @ Sep 6 2016, 12:27 AM)
can get 10K 100% refund?
bro, semi-D or bungalow come with bathtub d.. that time is thinking to put in a jacuzzi.. haha..

nowadays many DSL master bathroom also able to put in bathtub d.. depends on the layout.. since EG is individual title and not able to "modify", it is quite a waste.. haha..
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I think it was typo error and ýou meant EG is strata title...
Btw, I think there should be a small deduction of admin fee if you want to cancel purchase even due to failure in getting a loan.
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QUOTE(Jasoncat @ Sep 6 2016, 07:25 AM)
I think it was typo error and ýou meant EG is strata title...
Btw, I think there should be a small deduction of admin fee if you want to cancel purchase even due to failure in getting a loan.
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paiseh paiseh.. ya typo biggrin.gif

normally other developer wont full refund, charge 500+-, that's why wan to see any taiko here can confirm.
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Guys, more questions.... Apologies as I'm really new to property investments.

1. No renovation without approval - meaning owner can't even do internal structural change which may not affect the outer facade and build up?

2. What are the other restrictions or cons under landed strata compared to individual title?

3. Are there any other townships or residential areas that are comparable to puncak alam? Please provide both extremes i.e. township with potential 15 years ago and now developed well vs. townships with potential 15 years ago but now still not developed enough.


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Yes, 100% refund.
Normally RM500 "admin fee" is for external property agent, impossible they work free for you, right?
But EW all are internal staff, so they won't charge you service fee.

Don't think too much, bathroom is for shower only.
If you want to enjoy bath tube or jacuzzi better go holiday stay at 5 star hotel. laugh.gif drool.gif

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QUOTE(lustremoon @ Sep 6 2016, 11:35 AM)
Guys, more questions.... Apologies as I'm really new to property investments.

1. No renovation without approval - meaning owner can't even do internal structural change which may not affect the outer facade and build up?

2. What are the other restrictions or cons under landed strata compared to individual title?

3. Are there any other townships or residential areas that are comparable to puncak alam? Please provide both extremes i.e. township with potential 15 years ago and now developed well vs. townships with potential 15 years ago but now still not developed enough.
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hmmm.... most of the new townships 15 years ago also considered succeeded in becoming a matured township now... setia alam, puchong, cyberjaya, kajang, subang jaya are the few newly matured townships just few years back.... if currently comparing to puncak alam... semenyih, rawang, puchong south (deeper inside), rimbayu and ES, alam impian, sungai buloh, nilai, bangi, dengkil, bukit raja, certain precinct of shah alam and etc..... the most noticable failure of new township was bukit beruntung and the old bandar country homes at rawang...

but i think u shud really study more on all these township before u wanna go into one of these townships... and lowyat net if u filter hard enough... it might be a good source for you.... at least this forum is my starting point... i used at least half a year to really study all these townships before i bought this residence here... and i really travel to those townships to see how is it physically...

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They say, it will be launched this month eyh? come, i haelp you guys checking.. brows.gif brows.gif
So,
1st weekend (3&4th): Nothing. rclxs0.gif
2nd weekend (10th&11th): those who already put cheque, did EW called u guys yet?
3rd weekend (16,17&18th): tba
4th weekend (24&25th): tba
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Guys, more questions.... Apologies as I'm really new to property investments.

1. No renovation without approval - meaning owner can't even do internal structural change which may not affect the outer facade and build up?

2. What are the other restrictions or cons under landed strata compared to individual title?

3. Are there any other townships or residential areas that are comparable to puncak alam? Please provide both extremes i.e. township with potential 15 years ago and now developed well vs. townships with potential 15 years ago but now still not developed enough.
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1. If internal, not changing facade and affecting neighbours should be no issue,

2. What I could think of is much higher maintenance fees.

3. Puchong vs Selayang. Not saying Selayang no development, but the pace is slower than Puchong.
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QUOTE(Nymphetamine666 @ Sep 6 2016, 12:39 PM)
They say, it will be launched this month eyh? come, i haelp you guys checking..  brows.gif  brows.gif
So,
1st weekend (3&4th): Nothing.  rclxs0.gif
2nd weekend (10th&11th): those who already put cheque, did EW called u guys yet?
3rd weekend (16,17&18th): tba
4th weekend (24&25th): tba
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Personally I think most likely will be some time around after 916 till end of SEP weekend.


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QUOTE(Nymphetamine666 @ Sep 6 2016, 12:39 PM)
They say, it will be launched this month eyh? come, i haelp you guys checking..  brows.gif  brows.gif
So,
1st weekend (3&4th): Nothing.  rclxs0.gif
2nd weekend (10th&11th): those who already put cheque, did EW called u guys yet?
3rd weekend (16,17&18th): tba
4th weekend (24&25th): tba
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They may send out notice last minute brows.gif
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QUOTE(mascot_lim @ Sep 6 2016, 01:39 PM)
Personally I think most likely will be some time around after 916 till end of SEP weekend.
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Should be before budget 2017, in case they change new policy.
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Budget is in Oct whereas they said launch in Sep
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Budget is in Oct whereas they said launch in Sep
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I am still prefer SEP 2016, wanna settle this asap, drag too long later heart attack.
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I am still prefer SEP 2016, wanna settle this asap, drag too long later heart attack.
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then this project is not for u  cool2.gif

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Thank you for the info.

EW will upgrade the road on their part only to 6 lanes? Is it the road indicated below (yellow line)?
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But I checked with SA, he said they only upgrading road for their land only not until BSC junction. Just like other says, it doesn't see like EW style. Not much on road upgrading hmm.gif
But not to worry, the distance to LATAR interchange not too far. Should be ok.
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QUOTE(ubi1kelubi @ Sep 6 2016, 05:06 PM)
But I checked with SA, he said they only upgrading road for their land only not until BSC junction. Just like other says, it doesn't see like EW style. Not much on road upgrading hmm.gif
But not to worry, the distance to LATAR interchange not too far. Should be ok.
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the Jalan Bukit Cerakah road upgrade is new info to me too.

my info (no road upgrade) from SA was on 2nd weekend when sales gallery ready.

I also double checked the master plan in the broucher, also no mention on the road upgrade as well.



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guthrie maybe  ..
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I do think so. Dash first entrance is about 10km away from puncak alam and it takes lots of time during peak hour. From the route plan of DASH, there should be a interchange access to Guthrie. So it make more sense if EG has a direct access to Guthrie to enter into DASH. Then we don't need to use PMD to puncak perdana to enter into DASH. Btw it is same highway contraction company, Prolintas for both Guthrie and DASH. They should have think off the puncak alam residents too to use their highway to boost income since it considered one of the biggest townships development in west side of selangor.
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Sep 6 2016, 12:18 PM)
hmmm.... most of the new townships 15 years ago also considered succeeded in becoming a matured township now... setia alam, puchong, cyberjaya, kajang, subang jaya are the few newly matured townships just few years back.... if currently comparing to puncak alam... semenyih, rawang, puchong south (deeper inside), rimbayu and ES, alam impian, sungai buloh, nilai, bangi, dengkil, bukit raja, certain precinct of shah alam and etc..... the most noticable failure of new township was bukit beruntung and the old bandar country homes at rawang...

but i think u shud really study more on all these township before u wanna go into one of these townships... and lowyat net if u filter hard enough... it might be a good source for you.... at least this forum is my starting point... i used at least half a year to really study all these townships before i bought this residence here... and i really travel to those townships to see how is it physically...
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QUOTE(autodriver @ Sep 6 2016, 09:50 PM)
I do think so. Dash first entrance is about 10km away from puncak alam and it takes lots of time during peak hour. From the route plan of DASH, there should be a interchange access to Guthrie. So it make more sense if EG has a direct access to Guthrie to enter into DASH. Then we don't need to use PMD to puncak perdana to enter into DASH. Btw it is same highway contraction company, Prolintas for both Guthrie and DASH. They should have think off the puncak alam residents too to use their highway to boost income since it considered one of the biggest townships development in west side of selangor.
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If direct access to Guthrie then need to pay Guthrie eliminate toll before reaching DASH entrance, but better than nothing. Hopefully they build it
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Noob township. If there is no road improvement, expect drastic jam from this property to persiaran mohktar dahari exit; it may take about 1 hour and 20 min during peak period, starting from 7am.. If accident, it wont move at all...
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QUOTE(kokwah18 @ Sep 6 2016, 11:05 PM)
Noob township. If there is no road improvement, expect drastic jam from this property to persiaran mohktar dahari exit; it may take about 1 hour and 20 min during peak period, starting from 7am.. If accident, it wont move at all...
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Developers aren't noob, they have done thorough research before their launch new project. It is not few hundred or thousand ringgit game, it is about billions ringgit GDV matter. The road conditions are not involve one but several parties such as local municipal council, developers, JKR, TNB, water supply company, and sometimes highway contruction companies etc. Road expansion or new access may involve land issue where the land was belong to someone and it subjects to who will take responsibility to acquire the land for expansion or new road access.

You are not the first who concern about the traffic, the developers are more tension than anyone since it direct related to how much they can sell and earn from their property.

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QUOTE(silentsunami @ Sep 6 2016, 11:04 PM)
If direct access to Guthrie then need to pay Guthrie eliminate  toll before reaching DASH entrance, but better than nothing. Hopefully they build it
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If not mistaken even take all the way down to puncak perdana we still have to pay Denai Alam toll of DASH. So it is more or less same using the Paya Jaras interchange to access Guthrie and pay Elmina toll, we will skip the DASH Denai Alam toll. Prolintas isn't kind to the road users when talk about money. Haha
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QUOTE(autodriver @ Sep 6 2016, 11:40 PM)
If not mistaken even take all the way down to puncak perdana we still have to pay Denai Alam toll of DASH. So it is more or less same using the Paya Jaras interchange to access Guthrie and pay Elmina toll, we will skip the DASH Denai Alam toll. Prolintas isn't kind to the road users when talk about money. Haha
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If u are potential buyer for this Phase 1,

U shall hope the upgrading of Major infrastructure outside boundary be start after launching of phase 1,

In this case, the cost will only parked at the subsequent phases and the price different between phase 1 and subsequentl phases is high,

Then u can enjoy some appreciation.

Always remember in this world, there will be no free lunch.

No developer will scarify their profit margin by doing extra upgrading works,

Unless they can get some exception in return, say, reduce low cost provision...

This is world of business...
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QUOTE(autodriver @ Sep 6 2016, 11:40 PM)
If not mistaken even take all the way down to puncak perdana we still have to pay Denai Alam toll of DASH. So it is more or less same using the Paya Jaras interchange to access Guthrie and pay Elmina toll, we will skip the DASH Denai Alam toll. Prolintas isn't kind to the road users when talk about money. Haha
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both have the same toll numbers
2 tolls from puncak perdana to damansara
2 tolls from GCE to damansara, btw initial plan no interchange for KL direction from GCE
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If direct access to Guthrie then need to pay Guthrie eliminate  toll before reaching DASH entrance, but better than nothing. Hopefully they build it
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paya jaras interchange will be upgraded by Sime, KLK and kota elmina have both direct access,

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Ecoworld maybe can just build a flyover going north to replace the junction beside sungai buloh prison
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Have you explore BSC township before deciding on HillPark?  Mind sharing why you choose the latter instead of BSC?
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yeah... i did explore BSC.... BSC have larger sizes landed and a huge township planning as well... but for me... the package were not attractive enough compare to hillpark... I wanna save as much entry cost as possible during that time to properly structure my cash flow... haha... and hillpark kinda closer to the town of puncak alam and also bandar saujana utama... for basic necessities... I can easily got it from these two towns... and The Avenue of hillpark is closer to UITM and also hillpark will be facing UITM... i looking at the potential investment oppotunity of hillpark... if lets say i have a change of mind of not own stay in the future... i can just make my current hillpark house become an investment property in the future... BSC is good on its own... just the pricing and package which divert me away initially.... haha...
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QUOTE(DS4 @ Sep 6 2016, 11:55 PM)
If u are potential buyer for this Phase 1,

U shall hope the upgrading of Major infrastructure outside boundary be start after launching of phase 1,

In this case, the cost will only parked at the subsequent phases and the price different between phase 1 and subsequentl phases is high,

Then u can enjoy some appreciation.

Always remember in this world, there will be no free lunch.

No developer will scarify their profit margin by doing extra upgrading works,

Unless they can get some exception in return, say, reduce low cost provision...

This is world of business...
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he is EG neighbor's buyer.... so he just need to look forwad onto how EW develop their township first... since we know MKH wont do anything on the existing infrastructure to boost up their sales also.... biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Sep 7 2016, 10:10 AM)
he is EG neighbor's buyer.... so he just need to look forwad onto how EW develop their township first... since we know MKH wont do anything on the existing infrastructure to boost up their sales also....  biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif
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Because of EG the sales of Hillpark went up and now Meranti phase left less than 5 units only. I think both EG and Hillpark have their own selling points. I dont think we can count for MKH to develop the infrastructure. In fact developer is not liable to improve road condition or construct interchange, but if they do it will helps to boost their sales volume. Otherwise we need to count on highway companies or local council will invest on traffic and road condition matter. Btw the more people staying it help to increase value of property for developers and residents, benefit local council and also the highway company as well. Hehe
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QUOTE(elmond @ Sep 7 2016, 09:02 AM)
paya jaras interchange will be upgraded by Sime, KLK and kota elmina have both direct access,

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Ecoworld maybe can just build a flyover going north to replace the junction beside sungai buloh prison
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Wah, upgrading at 2025 and 2035? I wonder how old will be I am during that time.....
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QUOTE(autodriver @ Sep 7 2016, 10:58 AM)
Because of EG the sales of Hillpark went up and now Meranti phase left less than 5 units only. I think both EG and Hillpark have their own selling points. I dont think we can count for MKH to develop the infrastructure. In fact developer is not liable to improve road condition or construct interchange, but if they do it will helps to boost their sales volume. Otherwise we need to count on highway companies or local council will invest on traffic and road condition matter. Btw the more people staying it help to increase value of property for developers and residents, benefit local council and also the highway company as well. Hehe
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To be frank, if you really look around, you will not surprise if the local council just sit diam diam hoping to request developer to build infrastructure while local council keep the fat tax revenue.

I would said should be all stakeholder to push together for infrastructure enhancement, just like what EW IJM and Tropicana did in Canal City.
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QUOTE(autodriver @ Sep 7 2016, 10:58 AM)
Because of EG the sales of Hillpark went up and now Meranti phase left less than 5 units only. I think both EG and Hillpark have their own selling points. I dont think we can count for MKH to develop the infrastructure. In fact developer is not liable to improve road condition or construct interchange, but if they do it will helps to boost their sales volume. Otherwise we need to count on highway companies or local council will invest on traffic and road condition matter. Btw the more people staying it help to increase value of property for developers and residents, benefit local council and also the highway company as well. Hehe
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For that point I think that's why EG not doing much on upgrading road around that area because if they do, the cost will be bear by them and the sale boost not only to EG but also Hillpark which sell much cheaper. EG rugi la itu macam.
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QUOTE(mascot_lim @ Sep 7 2016, 11:06 AM)
To be frank, if you really look around, you will not surprise if the local council just sit diam diam hoping to request developer to build infrastructure while local council keep the fat tax revenue.

I would said should be all stakeholder to push together for infrastructure enhancement, just like what EW IJM and Tropicana did in Canal City.
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Haiz, can't deny this fact where local council reluctant to invest while waiting residents paying cukai tanah. Just hope MDKS will also participate to improve the infrastructure in order to attract more investments in their municipal territory. Right now puncak alam has development from IJM, EW, MKH and WWH (World Wide Holding), maybe 1 or 2 more big players coming in will help to share the cost of improving infrastructure.
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QUOTE(ubi1kelubi @ Sep 7 2016, 11:10 AM)
For that point I think that's why EG not doing much on upgrading road around that area because if they do, the cost will be bear by them and the sale boost not only to EG but also Hillpark which sell much cheaper. EG rugi la itu macam.
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Not really rugi, this time EW EG is benefited by IJM Shah Alam 2 and MKH Hillpark who boost the development in Puncak Alam. In fact Hillpark is selling higher price than EG for similar built up. Like Meranti price is RM 570k for non-bumi price (20x65), built up is 1516sqf.
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QUOTE(autodriver @ Sep 7 2016, 11:46 AM)
Not really rugi, this time EW EG is benefited by IJM Shah Alam 2 and MKH Hillpark who boost the development in Puncak Alam. In fact Hillpark is selling higher price than EG for similar built up. Like Meranti price is RM 570k for non-bumi price (20x65), built up is 1516sqf.
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i concur with u on this... the IJM and Hillpark projects already set a benchmark for EW to set their pricing on their own concept which is strata titled township... by right they can offer a slight premium compare to wad hillpark offered... but then... the pricing also could be one of the reason why EW didnt spend any on infrastructure improvement compare to their other projects....
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Wah, upgrading at 2025 and 2035? I wonder how old will be I am during that time.....
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QUOTE(elmond @ Sep 7 2016, 09:02 AM)
paya jaras interchange will be upgraded by Sime, KLK and kota elmina have both direct access,

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Ecoworld maybe can just build a flyover going north to replace the junction beside sungai buloh prison
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upgrading at year 2035 is long wait..
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upgrading at year 2035 is long wait..
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QUOTE(autodriver @ Sep 7 2016, 11:46 AM)
Not really rugi, this time EW EG is benefited by IJM Shah Alam 2 and MKH Hillpark who boost the development in Puncak Alam. In fact Hillpark is selling higher price than EG for similar built up. Like Meranti price is RM 570k for non-bumi price (20x65), built up is 1516sqf.
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Recently my younger brother book a Meranti, according to him the price is about 480k. Maybe that price is after discount, I thought it is a base price and cheaper than Graham. But what I am trying to say is, why EW bother to upgrade the road since it also boost sale for his direct competitor Hillpark while the road upgrading cost is only bear by EW. MKH also in the 1st place didn't bother about it since it is not liable for them to improve road condition or interchange.
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QUOTE(ubi1kelubi @ Sep 7 2016, 02:29 PM)
Recently my younger brother book a Meranti, according to him the price is about 480k. Maybe that price is after discount, I thought it is a base price and cheaper than Graham. But what I am trying to say is, why EW bother to upgrade the road since it also boost sale for his direct competitor Hillpark while the road upgrading cost is only bear by EW. MKH also in the 1st place didn't bother about it since it is not liable for them to improve road condition or interchange.
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yea... hence... in the end... no one wanna improve the infrastructure or care anything about it... bcuz the existing developers tak peduli pun... anyhow... why ur brother dun consider EG first before bought Meranti? haha...
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Sep 7 2016, 02:34 PM)
yea... hence... in the end... no one wanna improve the infrastructure or care anything about it... bcuz the existing developers tak peduli pun... anyhow... why ur brother dun consider EG first before bought Meranti? haha...
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He said because closer to uitm, built up is bigger and his fiance likes it biggrin.gif

About the built up, on paper should be the same right? I dont know where he get the idea it is bigger.
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He said because closer to uitm, built up is bigger and his fiance likes it biggrin.gif

About the built up, on paper should be the same right? I dont know where he get the idea it is bigger.
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haha build up... i nt sure... ever since the guy keep disputing about build up... no one can say for sure... for meranti compare to the smaller size of EG's landed... i think wont run too much.... but meranti is totally ur typical type of DSL layout... i think it may feel spacious at the living room straight to the kitchen... for intermediate it might be slightly larger than EG.... UITM also one of the reason why i chose hillpark... of course... EG havent launch yet that time.... bangwall.gif bangwall.gif bangwall.gif
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QUOTE(ubi1kelubi @ Sep 7 2016, 02:29 PM)
Recently my younger brother book a Meranti, according to him the price is about 480k. Maybe that price is after discount, I thought it is a base price and cheaper than Graham. But what I am trying to say is, why EW bother to upgrade the road since it also boost sale for his direct competitor Hillpark while the road upgrading cost is only bear by EW. MKH also in the 1st place didn't bother about it since it is not liable for them to improve road condition or interchange.
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Indeed we are in the same thought, I dont think Glomac IJM and MKH will pump money to further enhance the connectivity of infrastructure, and due to the commitments, EW will only enhance the infrastructure within own land area, as it is quite unfair for EW to commit solely for infrastructure enhancement without support from existing other developers in the same area, as well as municipal itself.

Henceforth, one things I am quite like in canal city is all 3 developers are well committed to work together to enhance infrastructure accessibility, and of coz their selling price wont be that cheap as they need to factored in for the infrastructure cost. So far in this area we dont see other developers have such commitments to do so, most of the time are just build-and-sell-then-wash-hand-clean.


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Indeed we are in the same thought, I dont think Glomac IJM and MKH will pump money to further enhance the connectivity of infrastructure, and due to the commitments, EW will only enhance the infrastructure within own land area, as it is quite unfair for EW to commit solely for infrastructure enhancement without support from existing other developers in the same area, as well as municipal itself.

Henceforth, one things I am quite like in canal city is all 3 developers are well committed to work together to enhance infrastructure accessibility, and of coz their selling price wont be that cheap as they need to factored in for the infrastructure cost.
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That also the case for Eco Majestic right? The cost for interchange at LEKAS is shared between EH and EM?
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I am not sure if they have cost sharing for EM and SEH by EW and SPS, but for sure, both developers have the commitment to initiate infrastructure enhancement for that area.....
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QUOTE(mascot_lim @ Sep 7 2016, 03:02 PM)
I am not sure if they have cost sharing for EM and SEH by EW and SPS, but for sure, both developers have the commitment to initiate infrastructure enhancement for that area.....
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at least... both developers there are having the same mindset on infrastructure... however for this area... EW fighting a solo war... MKH and IJM never bother bout infrastructure improvement in most of their projects... thats the problem here....
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Sep 7 2016, 03:08 PM)
at least... both developers there are having the same mindset on infrastructure... however for this area... EW fighting a solo war... MKH and IJM never bother bout infrastructure improvement in most of their projects... thats the problem here....
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I think IJM location is a bit further in already, so nothing much IJM can do. Maybe this is different market for IJM, thats why IJM more focus on infrastructure on Bandar Rimbayu and S2.

From what I see, unless Selangor government gather all the developers in to have a fair view discussion, and get avyone to chip in "infrastructure development fund", which I think highly unlikely, else we just pray hard for us.

Now we can just hope for DASH and Setia Alam new link hopefully can further enhance the connectivity.
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QUOTE(mascot_lim @ Sep 7 2016, 03:13 PM)
I think IJM location is a bit further in already, so nothing much IJM can do. Maybe this is different market for IJM, thats why IJM more focus on infrastructure on Bandar Rimbayu and S2.

From what I see, unless Selangor government gather all the developers in to have a fair view discussion, and get avyone to chip in "infrastructure development fund", which I think highly unlikely, else we just pray hard for us.

Now we can just hope for DASH and Setia Alam new link hopefully can further enhance the connectivity.
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Maybe this area the local authority feel it not reaching its potential yet hence the justification for road upgrading not there. Looking at Saujana Utama, that township already there quite some time and until now no significant road upgrading around that area especially the road towards Guthrie.
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Talking about better infrastructure, do you guys think the flash flood issues that happened last year may repeat or maybe get worse if the roads and drainage system is not improved?

Also, do any of you guys currently stay at Puncak Alam? Please let me know - I am a potential EW buyer...would like to know more about the area.



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QUOTE(lustremoon @ Sep 7 2016, 04:03 PM)
Talking about better infrastructure, do you guys think the flash flood issues that happened last year may repeat or maybe get worse if the roads and drainage system is not improved?

Also, do any of you guys currently stay at Puncak Alam? Please let me know - I am a potential EW buyer...would like to know more about the area.
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ask bob.... he seems most of the time lepak in this area.... haha.... i think the flash flood issue already settled... the last time it happen mainly due to construction and mismanagement by the government... after that huge flood issue... all the residence retaliate and call for improvement... so far I didn't heard of any recurrence anymore... especially days ago there are huge downpour around there also....
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He said because closer to uitm, built up is bigger and his fiance likes it biggrin.gif

About the built up, on paper should be the same right? I dont know where he get the idea it is bigger.
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Graham did not have playground for child... so sad.. hv kindergarden
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QUOTE(autodriver @ Sep 6 2016, 09:50 PM)
I do think so. Dash first entrance is about 10km away from puncak alam and it takes lots of time during peak hour. From the route plan of DASH, there should be a interchange access to Guthrie. So it make more sense if EG has a direct access to Guthrie to enter into DASH. Then we don't need to use PMD to puncak perdana to enter into DASH. Btw it is same highway contraction company, Prolintas for both Guthrie and DASH. They should have think off the puncak alam residents too to use their highway to boost income since it considered one of the biggest townships development in west side of selangor.
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Yes there is an entrance between gutrie n dash nearby elmina area
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Apparently Graham bu is bigger.

Meranti bu : 1516-1563sf 
Graham bu : 1521-1743sf
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Graham did not have playground for child... so sad.. hv kindergarden
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from the masterplan layout map, I dont think there will be direct road connection to DASH, it is too far. DASH starts at Seksyen U10 (Puncak Perdana) traffic ligth junction/Cahaya SPK in the map, which is 20KM from Puncak Alam junction, this is very far.

What i heard and read is do not considered to use PMD (or Jalan Batu Arang - even EW also wrongly named this road doh.gif ) as daily weekdays commute route, unless the destination is just around the PMD exit. On normal shiny good day, travel time from the U10 trafficlite is 30mins, yes 30mins from the dotted dash line of DASH to Sunway Kayangan covering distance of 3.5km. On rainy day, accident day, tampal lubang construction day... expect 50 to 60mins. On return trip (pulang ke sarang)...after 630pm, the crawl will start at Sunway kayangan, all the way 25km to Puncak Alam...phewww...
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Apart from having a direct connection to DASH, is there any other possibilities/options that EG might consider or perhaps other developers (MKH/IJM) are working on that may work out for those within the vicinity of PMD???

It feels really outrageous to me that there are no other options but to go through so much trouble despite multiple developers in that area...
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Sep 7 2016, 09:59 AM)
yeah... i did explore BSC.... BSC have larger sizes landed and a huge township planning as well... but for me... the package were not attractive enough compare to hillpark... I wanna save as much entry cost as possible during that time to properly structure my cash flow... haha... and hillpark kinda closer to the town of puncak alam and also bandar saujana utama... for basic necessities... I can easily got it from these two towns... and The Avenue of hillpark is closer to UITM and also hillpark will be facing UITM... i looking at the potential investment oppotunity of hillpark... if lets say i have a change of mind of not own stay in the future... i can just make my current hillpark house become an investment property in the future... BSC is good on its own... just the pricing and package which divert me away initially.... haha...
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I last check the Ixora phase selling at 630k after disc for a 22x75 with huge built-up. High ceiling 12' and overall looks and feels spacious. Design not bad. Only drawback is not built on flat land, near to water storage tank and houses orientation not so good. BSC is at much higher land and has better view of puncak alam. Future phases will be on much higher land...better view. Just my opinion but no intention to invest there unless there is one with good view.
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QUOTE(CAFE21 @ Sep 7 2016, 07:44 PM)
Waiting for design of the 200 feet park in graham. Could have play ground there.
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No playground for Graham? EW is considering to build playground for Avenham....I presume the same for Graham as well. Playground within own precinct is safer for children.
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Apart from having a direct connection to DASH, is there any other possibilities/options that EG might consider or perhaps other developers (MKH/IJM) are working on that may work out for those within the vicinity of PMD???

It feels really outrageous to me that there are no other options but to go through so much trouble despite multiple developers in that area...
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Each developer will take care of their own pocket. Unless there are few other big developer like EW around that area...negotiation is possible.

Only hope now is for EW & MKH to work with local council to widen PMD stretch. EW already firm they will not be doing any extension especially the one in front of Hillpark but is looking into building underpass at the intersection of PMD and Bukit Cerakah.
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Using Google map found the east side of EG is very near to Petronas Merbau Indah of Jalan Kuala Selangor, maybe about 1km distance. EW may have considered to open a new route here to allow EG resident access to Jalan Kuala Selangor and enter into Guthrie subsequently enter DASH from Denai Alam entrance. This is my own opinion only. tongue.gif

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For the loan, of course it will be insured right? Its call MRTT/MRTA. my question:
1.how much will be? Does it work like some percentage from the SPA price?

2. After got the figure xxx (question no.1), can it be lump into the loan? And per ur observation, normally people will lump it into the loan or pay separately to reduce the monthly installment?

3. After recently changing of the BLR rates news coming out, whats the best/cheapest interest to fight for Graham price range? 4.4%? Or <4.4%? Or >4.4%?

4. Any bank u've heard offer the cheapest so far?

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QUOTE(jack bauer @ Sep 7 2016, 08:18 PM)
from the masterplan layout map, I dont think there will be direct road connection to DASH, it is too far. DASH starts at Seksyen U10 (Puncak Perdana) traffic ligth junction/Cahaya SPK in the map, which is 20KM from Puncak Alam junction, this is very far.

What i heard and read is do not considered to use PMD (or Jalan Batu Arang - even EW also wrongly named this road  doh.gif ) as daily weekdays commute route, unless the destination is just around the PMD exit. On normal shiny good day, travel time from the U10 trafficlite is 30mins, yes 30mins from the dotted dash line of DASH to Sunway Kayangan covering distance of 3.5km. On rainy day, accident day, tampal lubang construction day... expect 50 to 60mins. On return trip (pulang ke sarang)...after 630pm, the crawl will start at Sunway kayangan, all the way 25km to Puncak Alam...phewww...
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If that the case, to commute daily, best bet will be using LATAR Puncak Alam entrance through Jalan Bukit Cerakah about 5km from EG or using Guthrie Paya Jaras entrance about 8.5km through Jalan Kuala Selangor. Not too far either.
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QUOTE(jack bauer @ Sep 7 2016, 08:18 PM)
from the masterplan layout map, I dont think there will be direct road connection to DASH, it is too far. DASH starts at Seksyen U10 (Puncak Perdana) traffic ligth junction/Cahaya SPK in the map, which is 20KM from Puncak Alam junction, this is very far.

What i heard and read is do not considered to use PMD (or Jalan Batu Arang - even EW also wrongly named this road  doh.gif ) as daily weekdays commute route, unless the destination is just around the PMD exit. On normal shiny good day, travel time from the U10 trafficlite is 30mins, yes 30mins from the dotted dash line of DASH to Sunway Kayangan covering distance of 3.5km. On rainy day, accident day, tampal lubang construction day... expect 50 to 60mins. On return trip (pulang ke sarang)...after 630pm, the crawl will start at Sunway kayangan, all the way 25km to Puncak Alam...phewww...
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Not true la.
Traffic is not that bad in normal condition.
Only when raining.. Traffic much slower but other place also face the same situation.
Distance between pck alam traffic lite to sunway kayangan is 15km. & crawling time after 6pm is from junction nearby sunway kayangan to pck Perdana only.
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QUOTE(ubi1kelubi @ Sep 8 2016, 08:32 AM)
If that the case, to commute daily, best bet will be using LATAR Puncak Alam entrance through Jalan Bukit Cerakah about 5km from EG or using Guthrie Paya Jaras entrance about 8.5km through Jalan Kuala Selangor. Not too far either.
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If EG open a new route at EG east which nearby Petronas before Desa Coalfields, it can cut short become about 4km only to enter to Paya Jaras Guthrie. Btw I highly believe EG will connect to Persiaran Elmina from the east side but the current traffic is already bad. There is a need of new access road to Jalan Kuala Selangor.
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QUOTE(autodriver @ Sep 8 2016, 09:37 AM)
If EG open a new route at EG east which nearby Petronas before Desa Coalfields, it can cut short become about 4km only to enter to Paya Jaras Guthrie. Btw I highly believe EG will connect to Persiaran Elmina from the east side but the current traffic is already bad. There is a need of new access road to Jalan Kuala Selangor.
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Exactly! 1KM only!
EW should do a direct link from EG east to Guthrie.

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QUOTE(alankong @ Sep 8 2016, 07:56 PM)
Exactly! 1KM only!
EW should do a direct link from EG east to Guthrie.
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If they can settle land acquisition issue then easier.....
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If they can settle land acquisition issue then easier.....
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QUOTE(lowyatvest @ Sep 7 2016, 08:45 PM)
Thanks for sharing.
I last check the Ixora phase selling at 630k after disc for a 22x75 with huge built-up.  High ceiling 12' and overall looks and feels spacious.  Design not bad.  Only drawback is not built on flat land, near to water storage tank and houses orientation not so good.  BSC is at much higher land and has better view of puncak alam.  Future phases will be on much higher land...better view.  Just my opinion but no intention to invest there unless there is one with good view.
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haha.... i do agreed on most of your points when I visited Ixora that time... but yea... for me money talks more.... haha.... and i always ready for another option for future... hence my option... lol... actually i really like the design of BSC compare to Hillpark frankly speaking.... just that... i feel i can squeeze more out of hillpark than BSC in term of monetary value.... biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(jack bauer @ Sep 7 2016, 08:18 PM)
from the masterplan layout map, I dont think there will be direct road connection to DASH, it is too far. DASH starts at Seksyen U10 (Puncak Perdana) traffic ligth junction/Cahaya SPK in the map, which is 20KM from Puncak Alam junction, this is very far.

What i heard and read is do not considered to use PMD (or Jalan Batu Arang - even EW also wrongly named this road  doh.gif ) as daily weekdays commute route, unless the destination is just around the PMD exit. On normal shiny good day, travel time from the U10 trafficlite is 30mins, yes 30mins from the dotted dash line of DASH to Sunway Kayangan covering distance of 3.5km. On rainy day, accident day, tampal lubang construction day... expect 50 to 60mins. On return trip (pulang ke sarang)...after 630pm, the crawl will start at Sunway kayangan, all the way 25km to Puncak Alam...phewww...
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yeah.... that time when i test the route from Hillpark to Damansara... Its impossible to use PMD at all... i use the exit from Saujana Utama then Guthrie then towards LDP... the PMD i can visibly seeing the jam just after the traffic light of Saujana Utama there or the Hillpark Grand Entrance there....
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Sep 9 2016, 09:26 AM)
yeah.... that time when i test the route from Hillpark to Damansara... Its impossible to use PMD at all... i use the exit from Saujana Utama then Guthrie then towards LDP... the PMD i can visibly seeing the jam just after the traffic light of Saujana Utama there or the Hillpark Grand Entrance there....
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u mean using saujana utama route to jln kuala selangor to enter guthrie??
but on weekdays, its super bad traffic from inside SU to main road ... PMD is much better eventhough u can see a long traffic at the junction nearby sunway kayangan.


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QUOTE(bob @ Sep 9 2016, 10:23 AM)
u mean using saujana utama route to jln kuala selangor to enter guthrie??
but on weekdays, its super bad traffic from inside SU to main road ... PMD is much better eventhough u can see a long traffic at the junction nearby sunway kayangan.
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hmm.. that time when i tried it... is during weekday morning also... maybe its special case that time... haha... hopefully the PMD can really restructure to a better route...
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They say, it will be launched this month eyh? come, i help you guys checking.. brows.gif
So,
1st weekend (3&4th): Nothing. rclxs0.gif
2nd weekend (10th&11th): Nothing. rclxs0.gif
3rd weekend (16,17&18th): tba
4th weekend (24&25th): tba
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QUOTE(Nymphetamine666 @ Sep 9 2016, 07:17 PM)
They say, it will be launched this month eyh? come, i help you guys checking..  brows.gif
So,
1st weekend (3&4th): Nothing.  rclxs0.gif
2nd weekend (10th&11th): Nothing.  rclxs0.gif
3rd weekend (16,17&18th): tba
4th weekend (24&25th): tba
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QUOTE(Nymphetamine666 @ Sep 9 2016, 08:17 PM)
They say, it will be launched this month eyh? come, i help you guys checking..  brows.gif
So,
1st weekend (3&4th): Nothing.  rclxs0.gif
2nd weekend (10th&11th): Nothing.  rclxs0.gif
3rd weekend (16,17&18th): tba
4th weekend (24&25th): tba
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Not enough cheques collected...not confident la
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Guys just went to the gallery today. According to the sales agent about 600 cheques collected so far. Of course, no one knows what's the real number but them.

Again, official launch is by end of September. Also, I was looking around at BSC and it looks nice. Anyone here bought BSC?
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QUOTE(lustremoon @ Sep 9 2016, 10:20 PM)
Guys just went to the gallery today. According to the sales agent about 600 cheques collected so far. Of course, no one knows what's the real number but them.

Again, official launch is by end of September. Also, I was looking around at BSC and it looks nice. Anyone here bought BSC?
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Hi, sorry to ask, I am interested in this project. Currently staying in Kepong area. Working in PJ, how long it takes to get to PJ area from there ya?
And mind to share how much the toll charges?

And also, stupid to ask if buying this under construction property, after paid downpayment, how much I need to pay for the progressive?

Don't know how to calculate that actually...
Hope can get some advice from here.

Thanks guys.
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Sep 9 2016, 09:26 AM)
yeah.... that time when i test the route from Hillpark to Damansara... Its impossible to use PMD at all... i use the exit from Saujana Utama then Guthrie then towards LDP... the PMD i can visibly seeing the jam just after the traffic light of Saujana Utama there or the Hillpark Grand Entrance there....
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if EG sales team uses PMD as one of its selling point to access the township then i guess that's a very bad selling point though. PMD is known for its massive congestion during peak hours. People in Puncak Alam & Saujana Alam who works in KL/PJ go out as early as 530am in the morning, to reach office by 730/8am.

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QUOTE(jack bauer @ Sep 9 2016, 10:28 PM)
if EG sales team uses PMD as one of its selling point to access the township then i guess that's a very bad selling point though. PMD is known for its massive congestion during peak hours. People in Puncak Alam & Saujana Alam who works in KL/PJ go out as early as 530am in the morning, to reach office by 730/8am.
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Extra one route (choice) is always better

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QUOTE(Nymphetamine666 @ Sep 9 2016, 07:17 PM)
They say, it will be launched this month eyh? come, i help you guys checking..  brows.gif
So,
1st weekend (3&4th): Nothing.  rclxs0.gif
2nd weekend (10th&11th): Nothing.  rclxs0.gif
3rd weekend (16,17&18th): tba
4th weekend (24&25th): tba
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QUOTE(superb1123 @ Sep 9 2016, 10:18 PM)
Hi, sorry to ask, I am interested in this project. Currently staying in Kepong area. Working in PJ, how long it takes to get to PJ area from there ya?
And mind to share how much the toll charges?

And also, stupid to ask if buying this under construction property, after paid downpayment, how much I need to pay for the progressive?

Don't know how to calculate that actually...
Hope can get some advice from here.

Thanks guys.
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toll if want cheaper than can use PMD to enter nkve then exit subang ... only rm1.
for under construction, need to pay interest for progress payment .. can be from fless than hundred until rm1k++
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QUOTE(lustremoon @ Sep 9 2016, 09:20 PM)
Guys just went to the gallery today. According to the sales agent about 600 cheques collected so far. Of course, no one knows what's the real number but them.

Again, official launch is by end of September. Also, I was looking around at BSC and it looks nice. Anyone here bought BSC?
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QUOTE(Randy2552 @ Sep 9 2016, 10:17 PM)
Avenham 812 unit

Grahan 1012 unit

Now collect 600 /1824 unit is 32.x %
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~40% is reserved by internal staff and BA.
Could be ~55% laugh.gif
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QUOTE(alankong @ Sep 10 2016, 11:16 AM)
~40% is reserved by internal staff and BA.
Could be ~55%  laugh.gif
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The reserve % is very High sweat.gif
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~40% is reserved by internal staff and BA.
Could be ~55%  laugh.gif
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the reserve is quite very high, less chance for buyers dry.gif
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1800 landed launch in one go... although with support from internal staff and BA... is a big challenge to developer...

any developer dare to launch 1800 unit landed in 1 go previously?
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QUOTE(lustremoon @ Sep 9 2016, 09:20 PM)
Guys just went to the gallery today. According to the sales agent about 600 cheques collected so far. Of course, no one knows what's the real number but them.

Again, official launch is by end of September. Also, I was looking around at BSC and it looks nice. Anyone here bought BSC?
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did sales agent told that EW will upgrade Jalan Bukit Cerakah?
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QUOTE(propusers @ Sep 10 2016, 01:35 PM)
did sales agent told that EW will upgrade Jalan Bukit Cerakah?
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I did ask about upgrade of the other roads specifically PMD
He said that EW will only be working on the road encompassing the plan i.e. No upgrade on other roads that are not part of the project. However he did say that there are possibilities of all the developers working with the local council. But I won't bet on it.
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Sep 10 2016, 12:48 PM)
The reserve % is very High  sweat.gif
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Just went to EG sales gallery today, SA said developer will upgrade the road from entrance of EG township towards junction of Jalan Meru Tambahan.

From that junction flyover will be built for easy use resident from puncak alam.

Also from McD/petronas at Jalan Meru Tambahan, developer will upgrade the road toward to Jalan K.Selangor.

About launching, SA said anticipate on next Month (Oct)
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QUOTE(lustremoon @ Sep 10 2016, 05:16 PM)
Yes the units reserved for staff is pretty high I was initially surprised too.
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Worry no one wanna buy? Sell little and little better. If not later shame if low buyout..
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QUOTE(kay0901 @ Sep 10 2016, 05:22 PM)
Just went to EG sales gallery today, SA said developer will upgrade the road from entrance of EG township towards junction of Jalan Meru Tambahan.

From that junction flyover will be built for easy use resident from puncak alam.

Also from McD/petronas at Jalan Meru Tambahan, developer will upgrade the road toward to Jalan K.Selangor.

About launching, SA said anticipate on next Month (Oct)
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May I know the location of the new flyover?
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QUOTE(lustremoon @ Sep 10 2016, 05:16 PM)
Yes the units reserved for staff is pretty high I was initially surprised too.
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How many staff ew has? 600units reserved?

Maybe ew is given every staff member one house as year end bonus qua....

Next year sure win best of the best employer award lioa.
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QUOTE(kay0901 @ Sep 10 2016, 05:22 PM)
About launching, SA said anticipate on next Month (Oct)
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From tis mth to Oct?

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QUOTE(propusers @ Sep 10 2016, 01:33 PM)
1800 landed launch in one go... although with support from internal staff and BA... is a big challenge to developer...

any developer dare to launch 1800 unit landed in 1 go previously?
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This is SP style. Rewards the employees and however u could them on sub sales later.
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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Sep 10 2016, 07:32 PM)
How many staff ew has? 600units reserved?

Maybe ew is given every staff member one house as year end bonus qua....

Next year sure win best of the best employer award lioa.
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Staff price and also let the staffs do the selling later. Will have load of them selling later.


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QUOTE(alankong @ Sep 10 2016, 11:16 AM)
~40% is reserved by internal staff and BA.
Could be ~55%  laugh.gif
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This is their game. Actually they wanted all for staffs. However still can't. So they will create news like this in forum. I am not surprise some EW staff here doing their duty

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QUOTE(ace77 @ Sep 11 2016, 10:06 AM)
This is their game. Actually they wanted all for staffs. However still can't. So they will create news like this in forum. I am not surprise some EW staff here doing their duty
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Wan 1000+ unit all for staff? Laugh die me
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QUOTE(ace77 @ Sep 11 2016, 10:06 AM)
This is their game. Actually they wanted all for staffs. However still can't. So they will create news like this in forum. I am not surprise some EW staff here doing their duty
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Your guess is as good as mine.....

You see same o same o forumers praised ew projects to haven high literally.
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I was waiting they open this thread to V20 break the semenyii record last time brows.gif

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QUOTE(1nf1n1ty @ Sep 11 2016, 10:51 AM)
I was waiting they open this thread to V20 break the semenyii record last time brows.gif
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U have a gud vision n v shall work towards tat target
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QUOTE(Jasoncat @ Sep 12 2016, 08:12 PM)
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Jason gor durian together?
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QUOTE(mascot_lim @ Sep 12 2016, 08:47 PM)
Jason gor durian together?
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Bro, I wish to but already have plan for the long break.
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QUOTE(Jasoncat @ Sep 12 2016, 08:56 PM)
Bro, I wish to but already have plan for the long break.
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Good move to prevent the chaos, haha.
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LBS recently bought a piece of land in ijok under JV. Wondering where is the land located?
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QUOTE(CAFE21 @ Sep 13 2016, 11:39 AM)
LBS recently bought a piece of land in ijok under JV. Wondering where is the land located?
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nearer LATAR

https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=81675832

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land parcels beside EcoWorld Business Park V.

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QUOTE(propusers @ Sep 13 2016, 01:34 PM)
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Can share cost with EW to tap to Latar 😄
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Good to hear about more developments rclxms.gif


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RM0.00 Dear customer, please be informed that our HQ and EcoWorld Galleries will be closed on 17/09 for company's function. TQ.
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Take note - EG sales gallery close this Saturday.
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QUOTE(Jasoncat @ Sep 13 2016, 08:27 PM)
RM0.00 Dear customer, please be informed that our HQ and EcoWorld Galleries will be closed on 17/09 for company's function. TQ.
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Take note - EG sales gallery close this Saturday.
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U are more rajin abd informative than EW staffs smile.gif. Must be given a unit foc to be their social media director. Lol
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QUOTE(propertybbb @ Sep 13 2016, 08:25 PM)
U are more rajin abd informative than EW staffs smile.gif. Must be given a unit foc to be their social media director. Lol
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FOC! drool.gif

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QUOTE(jack bauer @ Sep 9 2016, 10:28 PM)
if EG sales team uses PMD as one of its selling point to access the township then i guess that's a very bad selling point though. PMD is known for its massive congestion during peak hours. People in Puncak Alam & Saujana Alam who works in KL/PJ go out as early as 530am in the morning, to reach office by 730/8am.
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yeah.... but i realized that if i using LATAR to Hillpark/EG... I think its still quite decent... but thats for me.... I am not sure how about the other residence using other kind of routes..... However weekend using PMD to PJ/Subang is a breeze for me.... biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(CAFE21 @ Sep 13 2016, 11:39 AM)
LBS recently bought a piece of land in ijok under JV. Wondering where is the land located?
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Another developer coming in thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(Jasoncat @ Sep 13 2016, 07:27 PM)
RM0.00 Dear customer, please be informed that our HQ and EcoWorld Galleries will be closed on 17/09 for company's function. TQ.
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Take note - EG sales gallery close this Saturday.
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Don't tell me close for prepare launching on next day. bangwall.gif
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QUOTE(alankong @ Sep 14 2016, 03:12 PM)
Don't tell me close for prepare launching on next day.  bangwall.gif
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Lol. Don't think so lah... laugh.gif
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QUOTE(alankong @ Sep 14 2016, 03:10 PM)
Another developer coming in thumbup.gif
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If I coming from Aman Putri (left side) Sungai Buloh, how long should I reach this project? fyi, I m working in KL but the design and price is very attractive. Hope some sifu can advise me.
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QUOTE(alankong @ Sep 14 2016, 03:10 PM)
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the more the merrier rclxms.gif

now I got doubt, why suddenly so many developers buying up land around this areas.. something really they know we don't know hmm.gif hmm.gif
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KENAPA ECO GRANDEUR TIDAK BOLEH DISAMAKAN DENGAN SETIA ALAM
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Hari ni Abe nak bagi cons dulu. Esok2 Abe bagi pro pulak. Takkan Abe senantiasa nak cakap benda2 yang manis sahaja kan?
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#LatarBelakangProjek

🔘 Graham Gardens ialah satu daripada dua taman yang akan dilancarkan di Eco Grandeur

🔘 Eco Grandeur terletak di Persimpangan Jalan Bukit Cerakah dan Persiaran Mokhtar Dahari di Puncak Alam.

🔘 Peminat hartanah sering mengatakan Eco Grandeur ini ialah The Next Setia Alam.

🔘 Bagi Abe jawapannya tidak!

🔘 Ini hanyalah ilusi atau mirage. Buang nama Ecoworld dan Eco Grandeur. Apa yang tinggal? Sebuah kawasan rumah terbengkalai di tengah2 tanah yang luas di Puncak Alam.
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🔘 Pada hari biasa pun, terasa lama nak sampai ke Latar Hiway apatah lagi waktu pergi bekerja.

🔘 Jika hendak ke DASH hiway, jaraknya sangat jauh. Persiaran Mokhtar Dahari (PMD) sangat jauh apatah lagi dari 630 pagi ke 9 pagi. Kalau DASH tidak siap pada jangkamasa yang ditetapkan, parah anda nanti.

🔘 Jarak ke West Coast Hiway agak jauh. Tidak patut digunakan sebagai sales pitch.

🔘 Jalan Meru walaupun sedang dibesarkan tapi banyak choking point. Anda akan tersekat didalam jam untuk ke Klang.

🔘 Jalan Pintas ke Utara Setia Alam. Anda akan melalui kawasan yang sempit di Kampung Budiman. Jarak ke Kampung Budiman juga agak jauh (8 km). Anda juga dinasihatkan tidak memandu terlalu laju disitu untuk menghormati penduduk kampung.

🔘 Jalan pintas ke Guthrie. Terpaksa melalui Bandar Saujana Utama. Jalan kecil dan traffic teruk.

🔘 Biasanya EcoWorld akan membina jalan khas ke hiway bagi projeknya. Tapi ini agak mustahil bagi Eco Granduer kerana jaraknya sangat jauh.
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🔘 Faktor UiTM. Uitm kini mempunyai VC baru. VC lama mempunyai aspirasi untuk menjadikan Uitm Puncak Alam sebagai kampus utama. Akhir-akhir ini rancangan ini bergerak perlahan.

🔘 Faktor Hospital Uitm: Design hospital telah pun siap. Kini dalam process tendering dan akan mengambil masa 27 bulan untuk siap. Soalannya bilakah kerajaan akan bagi dana? Sempatkan Hospital itu siap bila Graham dah dapat kunci?

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🔘 EG ini leasehold dengan sekatan. Bumi sukar jual pada non bumi. Market tersekat. Di Setia Alam, hartanahnya ialah Freehold tanpa sekatan. Market subsale bagi bumi disitu amatlah luas sekali.

🔘 Leasehold tenure EG sekarang ialah 85 tahun. Bila dah masuk tempoh subsale, hanya tinggal 81 tahun sahaja. Walaupun masih selamat (atas 60 tahun), masih banyak orang yang mempunyai stigma tentang ini.

🔘 Pesaing EG, Bandar Seri Coalfield yang Freehold dan paling hampir dengan LATAR highway pun masih mengalami kesukaran untuk menghabiskan stok undercons.
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🔘 Puncak Alam ini mempunyai tanah yang tidak terkira luasnya. Sekarang sudah ada pesaing dari Bandar Saujana Utama by Glomac, Hillpark by MKH, IJM, Alam Perdana by LBS, Bandar Seri Coalfield by KLK. Who knows siapa lagi akan bertapak di Puncak Alam. Itu belum kira orang Melayu yang beli tanah2 lot sekitar Bukit Cerakah!

🔘 Pemaju biasanya akan melancarkan 100 hingga 300 unit teres. Tapi EG ini ada hampir 2000 units! Digestion period pasti panjang.

🔘 Di Setia Alam, pemaju SP Setia mengamalkan different design dan facade setiap tiga ke empat row of terraces. EG ini walaupun layout dalaman berbeza tapi design hampir2 sama dari luar!

🔘 No definite development plan seperti masterplan Setia Alam. Next phase could b link houses too.

🔘 Di Utara, pemaju besar menumpukan perhatian di Kundang.
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🔘 EG tertakluk bawah DMC. Tak boleh extend dan renovate bahagian luar. Tak boleh cat lain tanpa persetujuan JMB.

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🔘 Build up kecil. Saiz paling murah datang dengan tiga bilik. Melayu yang nak upgrade dari hi rise 3 bilik biasanya ada anak ramai. Anak lelaki dan perempuan tak boleh tidur sebilik. Kalau ada orang gaji dan mertua pasti mengundang masalah.
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🔘 Kalau anda LTV70, buat kiraan betul2. Modalnya tidaklah kecil.

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🔘 Sekiranya anda tidak kisah bangun awal pergi kerja seawal 6 pagi, EG ini sesuai. Jalan teruk dari 630 pagi ke 9 pagi. Lambakan rumah semakin banyak.

🔘 Ruang untuk capital appreciation masih ada. Tapi ruang untuk mencari penyewa agak sukar akibat lambakan unit. Sewa sekitar kawasan itu 800 hingga 1200. Anda mungkin bayar 2400 sebulan termasuk maintenance fee.

🔘 Jika rizab anda lemah, hati2 beli untuk pelaburan. Beli untuk duduk okay, tapi makan jem kayalah setiap hari.

🔘 Kawasan itu belum ada pusat komersial yang mantap. Need time. Long term investment.

🔘 Ini bukan dibawah MBSA. Setia Alam dibawah MBSA. MDKS tidak setanding MBSA yang gagah.

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QUOTE(brensek @ Sep 14 2016, 11:01 PM)
Can search in fb page: Planet Jaeger

KENAPA ECO GRANDEUR TIDAK BOLEH DISAMAKAN DENGAN SETIA ALAM
〰〰〰〰〰〰〰〰〰〰〰〰〰〰〰

Hari ni Abe nak bagi cons dulu. Esok2 Abe bagi pro pulak.  Takkan Abe senantiasa nak cakap benda2 yang manis sahaja kan?
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#LatarBelakangProjek

🔘 Graham Gardens ialah satu daripada dua taman yang akan dilancarkan di Eco Grandeur

🔘 Eco Grandeur terletak di Persimpangan Jalan Bukit Cerakah dan Persiaran Mokhtar Dahari di Puncak Alam.

🔘 Peminat hartanah sering mengatakan Eco Grandeur ini ialah The Next Setia Alam.

🔘 Bagi Abe jawapannya tidak! 

🔘 Ini hanyalah ilusi atau mirage. Buang nama Ecoworld dan Eco Grandeur. Apa yang tinggal? Sebuah kawasan rumah terbengkalai di tengah2 tanah yang luas di Puncak Alam.
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#AksesabilitiYangMencabar

🔘 Aksesabiliti - 5 km ke Latar. Terpaksa melalui satu jambatan kecil di Sungai berdekatan Desa Coalfield.

🔘 Pada hari biasa pun, terasa lama nak sampai ke Latar Hiway apatah lagi waktu pergi bekerja.

🔘 Jika hendak ke DASH hiway, jaraknya sangat jauh. Persiaran Mokhtar Dahari (PMD) sangat jauh apatah lagi dari 630 pagi ke 9 pagi. Kalau DASH tidak siap pada jangkamasa yang ditetapkan, parah anda nanti.

🔘 Jarak ke West Coast Hiway agak jauh. Tidak patut digunakan sebagai sales pitch.

🔘 Jalan Meru walaupun sedang dibesarkan tapi banyak choking point. Anda akan tersekat didalam jam untuk ke Klang.

🔘 Jalan Pintas ke Utara Setia Alam. Anda akan melalui kawasan yang sempit di Kampung Budiman. Jarak ke Kampung Budiman juga agak jauh (8 km).  Anda juga dinasihatkan tidak memandu terlalu laju disitu untuk menghormati penduduk kampung.

🔘 Jalan pintas ke Guthrie. Terpaksa melalui Bandar Saujana Utama. Jalan kecil dan traffic teruk.

🔘 Biasanya EcoWorld akan membina jalan khas ke hiway bagi projeknya. Tapi ini agak mustahil bagi Eco Granduer kerana jaraknya sangat jauh.
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#KekuranganPeluangKerjaDiIndustriDanPusatKomersil

🔘 Tiada industri gagah dan pejabat kerja gah di Puncak Alam. Kawasan ini kurang peluang pekerjaan.

🔘 Walaupun Setia Alam 12 tahun dahulu ladang kelapa sawit, lokasinya terletak di antara Bandar Baru Klang dan Bandaraya Shah Alam. Industri dan peluang pekerjaan banyak di dua kawasan ini. Peluang untuk menyewakan rumah tinggi.

🔘 Faktor UiTM. Uitm kini mempunyai VC baru. VC lama mempunyai aspirasi untuk menjadikan Uitm Puncak Alam sebagai kampus utama. Akhir-akhir ini rancangan ini bergerak perlahan.

🔘 Faktor Hospital Uitm: Design hospital telah pun siap.  Kini dalam process tendering dan akan mengambil masa 27 bulan untuk siap.  Soalannya bilakah kerajaan akan bagi dana?  Sempatkan Hospital itu siap bila Graham dah dapat kunci?

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#IsuLeasehold

🔘 Populasi antara kaum disini tidak seimbang. Di sini majoriti Melayu. Unlike Setia Alam, majoritinya Cina.

🔘 EG ini leasehold dengan sekatan. Bumi sukar jual pada non bumi. Market tersekat. Di Setia Alam, hartanahnya ialah Freehold tanpa sekatan. Market subsale bagi bumi disitu amatlah luas sekali.

🔘 Leasehold tenure EG sekarang ialah 85 tahun. Bila dah masuk tempoh subsale, hanya tinggal 81 tahun sahaja. Walaupun masih selamat (atas 60 tahun), masih banyak orang yang mempunyai stigma tentang ini.

🔘 Pesaing EG, Bandar Seri Coalfield yang Freehold dan paling hampir dengan LATAR highway pun masih mengalami kesukaran untuk menghabiskan stok undercons.
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#IsuLambakanTeres

🔘 Saingan yang sengit.  Di Setia Alam dahulu. Hanya ada Aman Perdana, Bukit Bandaraya, Seksyen 7 Shah Alam, dan Bandar Bukit Raja sebagai pesaing.

🔘 Puncak Alam ini mempunyai tanah yang tidak terkira luasnya. Sekarang sudah ada pesaing dari Bandar Saujana Utama by Glomac, Hillpark by MKH, IJM, Alam Perdana by LBS, Bandar Seri Coalfield by KLK. Who knows siapa lagi akan bertapak di Puncak Alam. Itu belum kira orang Melayu yang beli tanah2 lot sekitar Bukit Cerakah!

🔘 Pemaju biasanya akan melancarkan 100 hingga 300 unit teres. Tapi EG ini ada hampir 2000 units! Digestion period pasti panjang.

🔘 Di Setia Alam, pemaju SP Setia mengamalkan different design dan facade setiap tiga ke empat row of terraces.  EG ini walaupun layout dalaman berbeza tapi design hampir2 sama dari luar!

🔘 No definite development plan seperti masterplan Setia Alam. Next phase could b link houses too.

🔘 Di Utara, pemaju besar menumpukan perhatian di Kundang.
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#IsuLandedStrataUntukTeres

🔘 Adakah Joint Management Body akan membenarkan pemilik menyewakan kepada students Uitm?

🔘 Landed Strata. Wajib bayar 200 rm maintenance fee sebulan. Itu bersamaan dengan loan 42K. Setia Alam teresnya hanya bayar guard fee 40 rm sebulan. Tu pun tak wajib.

🔘 EG tertakluk bawah DMC. Tak boleh extend dan renovate bahagian luar. Tak boleh cat lain tanpa persetujuan JMB.

🔘 Melayu suka renovate dapur basah dan reno luar. Ini masalah paling besar sedangkan rumah projek pesaing lain boleh diubah suai.

🔘 Build up kecil. Saiz paling murah datang dengan tiga bilik. Melayu yang nak upgrade dari hi rise 3 bilik biasanya ada anak ramai. Anak lelaki dan perempuan tak boleh tidur sebilik. Kalau ada orang gaji dan mertua pasti mengundang masalah.
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#AncamanBanjirDanKualitiTanah

🔘 Masalah banjir. Setia Alam tiada masalah banjir. Sini ada masalah banjir akibat longkang tersumbat. Itu belum kira pembangunan masa depan lagi. Apa jaminan longkang tidak akan tersumbat lagi?

🔘 Dari pengamatan pokok2 kelapa sawit sekitar kawasan itu, nyata pokok2 itu ditakungi air kerana pokok2 nya renek2.

🔘 Tanah disitu lembut. Diharapkan pemaju akan memastikan kejadian rumah retak akibat tanah mendap di fasa awal di Setia Alam tidak berulang.
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#UpfrontCapitalBolehTahan

🔘 Kalau anda LTV70, buat kiraan betul2.  Modalnya tidaklah kecil.

🔘 Very long term investment.  Holding power perlu besar. Tidak sesuai untuk bot-bot kecil.  Nanti dilambung badai.
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#KesimpulanPenulis

🔘 Sekiranya anda tidak kisah bangun awal pergi kerja seawal 6 pagi, EG ini sesuai. Jalan teruk dari 630 pagi ke 9 pagi. Lambakan rumah semakin banyak.

🔘 Ruang untuk capital appreciation masih ada. Tapi ruang untuk mencari penyewa agak sukar akibat lambakan unit. Sewa sekitar kawasan itu 800 hingga 1200. Anda mungkin bayar 2400 sebulan termasuk maintenance fee.

🔘 Jika rizab anda lemah, hati2 beli untuk pelaburan. Beli untuk duduk okay, tapi makan jem kayalah setiap hari.

🔘 Kawasan itu belum ada pusat komersial yang mantap.  Need time. Long term investment.

🔘 Ini bukan dibawah MBSA. Setia Alam dibawah MBSA. MDKS tidak setanding MBSA yang gagah.

#SayaPutarHalim!
#PlanetJaeger
#DisclaimerApplies
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post Sep 15 2016, 08:58 AM

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QUOTE(prince_mk @ Sep 14 2016, 08:21 PM)
If I coming from Aman Putri (left side) Sungai Buloh, how long should I reach this project? fyi, I m working in KL but the design and price is very attractive. Hope some sifu can advise me.
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u need go further up for another 12km.
aman putri just nearby guthrie hway ... but if from EG need to take Latar or jalan kuala sgor to enter guhtrie
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post Sep 15 2016, 09:21 AM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Sep 14 2016, 10:44 PM)
the more the merrier  rclxms.gif

now I got doubt, why suddenly so many developers buying up land around this areas.. something really they know we don't know  hmm.gif  hmm.gif
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Lol, I sure hope something good is brewing biggrin.gif
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post Sep 15 2016, 09:32 AM

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QUOTE(prince_mk @ Sep 14 2016, 08:21 PM)
If I coming from Aman Putri (left side) Sungai Buloh, how long should I reach this project? fyi, I m working in KL but the design and price is very attractive. Hope some sifu can advise me.
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lately i been going to my new house in Hillpark to check on the reno... from KL to my hse only required 45 mins using NKVE and to LATAR and voila... the jam in NKVE to bukit jelutong is so crazy... i agreed its not usable in peak hours... blink.gif blink.gif
from EG to aman putri only for 12km... which usually only 10mins driving.. that part not really jam normally...

This post has been edited by aaron1717: Sep 15 2016, 09:33 AM
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post Sep 15 2016, 09:40 AM

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QUOTE(brensek @ Sep 14 2016, 11:01 PM)
Can search in fb page: Planet Jaeger

KENAPA ECO GRANDEUR TIDAK BOLEH DISAMAKAN DENGAN SETIA ALAM
〰〰〰〰〰〰〰〰〰〰〰〰〰〰〰

Hari ni Abe nak bagi cons dulu. Esok2 Abe bagi pro pulak.  Takkan Abe senantiasa nak cakap benda2 yang manis sahaja kan?
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#LatarBelakangProjek

🔘 Graham Gardens ialah satu daripada dua taman yang akan dilancarkan di Eco Grandeur

🔘 Eco Grandeur terletak di Persimpangan Jalan Bukit Cerakah dan Persiaran Mokhtar Dahari di Puncak Alam.

🔘 Peminat hartanah sering mengatakan Eco Grandeur ini ialah The Next Setia Alam.

🔘 Bagi Abe jawapannya tidak! 

🔘 Ini hanyalah ilusi atau mirage. Buang nama Ecoworld dan Eco Grandeur. Apa yang tinggal? Sebuah kawasan rumah terbengkalai di tengah2 tanah yang luas di Puncak Alam.
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#AksesabilitiYangMencabar

🔘 Aksesabiliti - 5 km ke Latar. Terpaksa melalui satu jambatan kecil di Sungai berdekatan Desa Coalfield.

🔘 Pada hari biasa pun, terasa lama nak sampai ke Latar Hiway apatah lagi waktu pergi bekerja.

🔘 Jika hendak ke DASH hiway, jaraknya sangat jauh. Persiaran Mokhtar Dahari (PMD) sangat jauh apatah lagi dari 630 pagi ke 9 pagi. Kalau DASH tidak siap pada jangkamasa yang ditetapkan, parah anda nanti.

🔘 Jarak ke West Coast Hiway agak jauh. Tidak patut digunakan sebagai sales pitch.

🔘 Jalan Meru walaupun sedang dibesarkan tapi banyak choking point. Anda akan tersekat didalam jam untuk ke Klang.

🔘 Jalan Pintas ke Utara Setia Alam. Anda akan melalui kawasan yang sempit di Kampung Budiman. Jarak ke Kampung Budiman juga agak jauh (8 km).  Anda juga dinasihatkan tidak memandu terlalu laju disitu untuk menghormati penduduk kampung.

🔘 Jalan pintas ke Guthrie. Terpaksa melalui Bandar Saujana Utama. Jalan kecil dan traffic teruk.

🔘 Biasanya EcoWorld akan membina jalan khas ke hiway bagi projeknya. Tapi ini agak mustahil bagi Eco Granduer kerana jaraknya sangat jauh.
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#KekuranganPeluangKerjaDiIndustriDanPusatKomersil

🔘 Tiada industri gagah dan pejabat kerja gah di Puncak Alam. Kawasan ini kurang peluang pekerjaan.

🔘 Walaupun Setia Alam 12 tahun dahulu ladang kelapa sawit, lokasinya terletak di antara Bandar Baru Klang dan Bandaraya Shah Alam. Industri dan peluang pekerjaan banyak di dua kawasan ini. Peluang untuk menyewakan rumah tinggi.

🔘 Faktor UiTM. Uitm kini mempunyai VC baru. VC lama mempunyai aspirasi untuk menjadikan Uitm Puncak Alam sebagai kampus utama. Akhir-akhir ini rancangan ini bergerak perlahan.

🔘 Faktor Hospital Uitm: Design hospital telah pun siap.  Kini dalam process tendering dan akan mengambil masa 27 bulan untuk siap.  Soalannya bilakah kerajaan akan bagi dana?  Sempatkan Hospital itu siap bila Graham dah dapat kunci?

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#IsuLeasehold

🔘 Populasi antara kaum disini tidak seimbang. Di sini majoriti Melayu. Unlike Setia Alam, majoritinya Cina.

🔘 EG ini leasehold dengan sekatan. Bumi sukar jual pada non bumi. Market tersekat. Di Setia Alam, hartanahnya ialah Freehold tanpa sekatan. Market subsale bagi bumi disitu amatlah luas sekali.

🔘 Leasehold tenure EG sekarang ialah 85 tahun. Bila dah masuk tempoh subsale, hanya tinggal 81 tahun sahaja. Walaupun masih selamat (atas 60 tahun), masih banyak orang yang mempunyai stigma tentang ini.

🔘 Pesaing EG, Bandar Seri Coalfield yang Freehold dan paling hampir dengan LATAR highway pun masih mengalami kesukaran untuk menghabiskan stok undercons.
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#IsuLambakanTeres

🔘 Saingan yang sengit.  Di Setia Alam dahulu. Hanya ada Aman Perdana, Bukit Bandaraya, Seksyen 7 Shah Alam, dan Bandar Bukit Raja sebagai pesaing.

🔘 Puncak Alam ini mempunyai tanah yang tidak terkira luasnya. Sekarang sudah ada pesaing dari Bandar Saujana Utama by Glomac, Hillpark by MKH, IJM, Alam Perdana by LBS, Bandar Seri Coalfield by KLK. Who knows siapa lagi akan bertapak di Puncak Alam. Itu belum kira orang Melayu yang beli tanah2 lot sekitar Bukit Cerakah!

🔘 Pemaju biasanya akan melancarkan 100 hingga 300 unit teres. Tapi EG ini ada hampir 2000 units! Digestion period pasti panjang.

🔘 Di Setia Alam, pemaju SP Setia mengamalkan different design dan facade setiap tiga ke empat row of terraces.  EG ini walaupun layout dalaman berbeza tapi design hampir2 sama dari luar!

🔘 No definite development plan seperti masterplan Setia Alam. Next phase could b link houses too.

🔘 Di Utara, pemaju besar menumpukan perhatian di Kundang.
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#IsuLandedStrataUntukTeres

🔘 Adakah Joint Management Body akan membenarkan pemilik menyewakan kepada students Uitm?

🔘 Landed Strata. Wajib bayar 200 rm maintenance fee sebulan. Itu bersamaan dengan loan 42K. Setia Alam teresnya hanya bayar guard fee 40 rm sebulan. Tu pun tak wajib.

🔘 EG tertakluk bawah DMC. Tak boleh extend dan renovate bahagian luar. Tak boleh cat lain tanpa persetujuan JMB.

🔘 Melayu suka renovate dapur basah dan reno luar. Ini masalah paling besar sedangkan rumah projek pesaing lain boleh diubah suai.

🔘 Build up kecil. Saiz paling murah datang dengan tiga bilik. Melayu yang nak upgrade dari hi rise 3 bilik biasanya ada anak ramai. Anak lelaki dan perempuan tak boleh tidur sebilik. Kalau ada orang gaji dan mertua pasti mengundang masalah.
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#AncamanBanjirDanKualitiTanah

🔘 Masalah banjir. Setia Alam tiada masalah banjir. Sini ada masalah banjir akibat longkang tersumbat. Itu belum kira pembangunan masa depan lagi. Apa jaminan longkang tidak akan tersumbat lagi?

🔘 Dari pengamatan pokok2 kelapa sawit sekitar kawasan itu, nyata pokok2 itu ditakungi air kerana pokok2 nya renek2.

🔘 Tanah disitu lembut. Diharapkan pemaju akan memastikan kejadian rumah retak akibat tanah mendap di fasa awal di Setia Alam tidak berulang.
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#UpfrontCapitalBolehTahan

🔘 Kalau anda LTV70, buat kiraan betul2.  Modalnya tidaklah kecil.

🔘 Very long term investment.  Holding power perlu besar. Tidak sesuai untuk bot-bot kecil.  Nanti dilambung badai.
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#KesimpulanPenulis

🔘 Sekiranya anda tidak kisah bangun awal pergi kerja seawal 6 pagi, EG ini sesuai. Jalan teruk dari 630 pagi ke 9 pagi. Lambakan rumah semakin banyak.

🔘 Ruang untuk capital appreciation masih ada. Tapi ruang untuk mencari penyewa agak sukar akibat lambakan unit. Sewa sekitar kawasan itu 800 hingga 1200. Anda mungkin bayar 2400 sebulan termasuk maintenance fee.

🔘 Jika rizab anda lemah, hati2 beli untuk pelaburan. Beli untuk duduk okay, tapi makan jem kayalah setiap hari.

🔘 Kawasan itu belum ada pusat komersial yang mantap.  Need time. Long term investment.

🔘 Ini bukan dibawah MBSA. Setia Alam dibawah MBSA. MDKS tidak setanding MBSA yang gagah.

#SayaPutarHalim!
#PlanetJaeger
#DisclaimerApplies
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who dare to say PA can be SA fully the same is just imagination... it definitely wont... but it can be an okay township on it own.... it wont replicate any success from Setia alam given the restrictions... but it definitely still growing... and yea... there are still plenty of empty lands around...
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Sep 15 2016, 09:40 AM)
who dare to say PA can be SA fully the same is just imagination... it definitely wont... but it can be an okay township on it own.... it wont replicate any success from Setia alam given the restrictions... but it definitely still growing... and yea... there are still plenty of empty lands around...
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That article is definitely interesting and most of the points have been discussed here. However, I feel that it is extremely early to compare Puncak Alam to Setia Alam not to mention the differences between the areas are pretty stark at least at the moment.

Any new development takes really long time to mature and thats something applicable to most areas. So, yes the doubts raised by the writer is definitely valid but there are some positives to consider as well I believe.
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QUOTE(brensek @ Sep 14 2016, 11:01 PM)
Can search in fb page: Planet Jaeger

KENAPA ECO GRANDEUR TIDAK BOLEH DISAMAKAN DENGAN SETIA ALAM
〰〰〰〰〰〰〰〰〰〰〰〰〰〰〰

Hari ni Abe nak bagi cons dulu. Esok2 Abe bagi pro pulak.  Takkan Abe senantiasa nak cakap benda2 yang manis sahaja kan?
.
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#LatarBelakangProjek

🔘 Graham Gardens ialah satu daripada dua taman yang akan dilancarkan di Eco Grandeur

🔘 Eco Grandeur terletak di Persimpangan Jalan Bukit Cerakah dan Persiaran Mokhtar Dahari di Puncak Alam.

🔘 Peminat hartanah sering mengatakan Eco Grandeur ini ialah The Next Setia Alam.

🔘 Bagi Abe jawapannya tidak! 

🔘 Ini hanyalah ilusi atau mirage. Buang nama Ecoworld dan Eco Grandeur. Apa yang tinggal? Sebuah kawasan rumah terbengkalai di tengah2 tanah yang luas di Puncak Alam.
.
.
#AksesabilitiYangMencabar

🔘 Aksesabiliti - 5 km ke Latar. Terpaksa melalui satu jambatan kecil di Sungai berdekatan Desa Coalfield.

🔘 Pada hari biasa pun, terasa lama nak sampai ke Latar Hiway apatah lagi waktu pergi bekerja.

🔘 Jika hendak ke DASH hiway, jaraknya sangat jauh. Persiaran Mokhtar Dahari (PMD) sangat jauh apatah lagi dari 630 pagi ke 9 pagi. Kalau DASH tidak siap pada jangkamasa yang ditetapkan, parah anda nanti.

🔘 Jarak ke West Coast Hiway agak jauh. Tidak patut digunakan sebagai sales pitch.

🔘 Jalan Meru walaupun sedang dibesarkan tapi banyak choking point. Anda akan tersekat didalam jam untuk ke Klang.

🔘 Jalan Pintas ke Utara Setia Alam. Anda akan melalui kawasan yang sempit di Kampung Budiman. Jarak ke Kampung Budiman juga agak jauh (8 km).  Anda juga dinasihatkan tidak memandu terlalu laju disitu untuk menghormati penduduk kampung.

🔘 Jalan pintas ke Guthrie. Terpaksa melalui Bandar Saujana Utama. Jalan kecil dan traffic teruk.

🔘 Biasanya EcoWorld akan membina jalan khas ke hiway bagi projeknya. Tapi ini agak mustahil bagi Eco Granduer kerana jaraknya sangat jauh.
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#KekuranganPeluangKerjaDiIndustriDanPusatKomersil

🔘 Tiada industri gagah dan pejabat kerja gah di Puncak Alam. Kawasan ini kurang peluang pekerjaan.

🔘 Walaupun Setia Alam 12 tahun dahulu ladang kelapa sawit, lokasinya terletak di antara Bandar Baru Klang dan Bandaraya Shah Alam. Industri dan peluang pekerjaan banyak di dua kawasan ini. Peluang untuk menyewakan rumah tinggi.

🔘 Faktor UiTM. Uitm kini mempunyai VC baru. VC lama mempunyai aspirasi untuk menjadikan Uitm Puncak Alam sebagai kampus utama. Akhir-akhir ini rancangan ini bergerak perlahan.

🔘 Faktor Hospital Uitm: Design hospital telah pun siap.  Kini dalam process tendering dan akan mengambil masa 27 bulan untuk siap.  Soalannya bilakah kerajaan akan bagi dana?  Sempatkan Hospital itu siap bila Graham dah dapat kunci?

.
.
#IsuLeasehold

🔘 Populasi antara kaum disini tidak seimbang. Di sini majoriti Melayu. Unlike Setia Alam, majoritinya Cina.

🔘 EG ini leasehold dengan sekatan. Bumi sukar jual pada non bumi. Market tersekat. Di Setia Alam, hartanahnya ialah Freehold tanpa sekatan. Market subsale bagi bumi disitu amatlah luas sekali.

🔘 Leasehold tenure EG sekarang ialah 85 tahun. Bila dah masuk tempoh subsale, hanya tinggal 81 tahun sahaja. Walaupun masih selamat (atas 60 tahun), masih banyak orang yang mempunyai stigma tentang ini.

🔘 Pesaing EG, Bandar Seri Coalfield yang Freehold dan paling hampir dengan LATAR highway pun masih mengalami kesukaran untuk menghabiskan stok undercons.
.
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#IsuLambakanTeres

🔘 Saingan yang sengit.  Di Setia Alam dahulu. Hanya ada Aman Perdana, Bukit Bandaraya, Seksyen 7 Shah Alam, dan Bandar Bukit Raja sebagai pesaing.

🔘 Puncak Alam ini mempunyai tanah yang tidak terkira luasnya. Sekarang sudah ada pesaing dari Bandar Saujana Utama by Glomac, Hillpark by MKH, IJM, Alam Perdana by LBS, Bandar Seri Coalfield by KLK. Who knows siapa lagi akan bertapak di Puncak Alam. Itu belum kira orang Melayu yang beli tanah2 lot sekitar Bukit Cerakah!

🔘 Pemaju biasanya akan melancarkan 100 hingga 300 unit teres. Tapi EG ini ada hampir 2000 units! Digestion period pasti panjang.

🔘 Di Setia Alam, pemaju SP Setia mengamalkan different design dan facade setiap tiga ke empat row of terraces.  EG ini walaupun layout dalaman berbeza tapi design hampir2 sama dari luar!

🔘 No definite development plan seperti masterplan Setia Alam. Next phase could b link houses too.

🔘 Di Utara, pemaju besar menumpukan perhatian di Kundang.
.
.
#IsuLandedStrataUntukTeres

🔘 Adakah Joint Management Body akan membenarkan pemilik menyewakan kepada students Uitm?

🔘 Landed Strata. Wajib bayar 200 rm maintenance fee sebulan. Itu bersamaan dengan loan 42K. Setia Alam teresnya hanya bayar guard fee 40 rm sebulan. Tu pun tak wajib.

🔘 EG tertakluk bawah DMC. Tak boleh extend dan renovate bahagian luar. Tak boleh cat lain tanpa persetujuan JMB.

🔘 Melayu suka renovate dapur basah dan reno luar. Ini masalah paling besar sedangkan rumah projek pesaing lain boleh diubah suai.

🔘 Build up kecil. Saiz paling murah datang dengan tiga bilik. Melayu yang nak upgrade dari hi rise 3 bilik biasanya ada anak ramai. Anak lelaki dan perempuan tak boleh tidur sebilik. Kalau ada orang gaji dan mertua pasti mengundang masalah.
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#AncamanBanjirDanKualitiTanah

🔘 Masalah banjir. Setia Alam tiada masalah banjir. Sini ada masalah banjir akibat longkang tersumbat. Itu belum kira pembangunan masa depan lagi. Apa jaminan longkang tidak akan tersumbat lagi?

🔘 Dari pengamatan pokok2 kelapa sawit sekitar kawasan itu, nyata pokok2 itu ditakungi air kerana pokok2 nya renek2.

🔘 Tanah disitu lembut. Diharapkan pemaju akan memastikan kejadian rumah retak akibat tanah mendap di fasa awal di Setia Alam tidak berulang.
.
.
#UpfrontCapitalBolehTahan

🔘 Kalau anda LTV70, buat kiraan betul2.  Modalnya tidaklah kecil.

🔘 Very long term investment.  Holding power perlu besar. Tidak sesuai untuk bot-bot kecil.  Nanti dilambung badai.
.
.
#KesimpulanPenulis

🔘 Sekiranya anda tidak kisah bangun awal pergi kerja seawal 6 pagi, EG ini sesuai. Jalan teruk dari 630 pagi ke 9 pagi. Lambakan rumah semakin banyak.

🔘 Ruang untuk capital appreciation masih ada. Tapi ruang untuk mencari penyewa agak sukar akibat lambakan unit. Sewa sekitar kawasan itu 800 hingga 1200. Anda mungkin bayar 2400 sebulan termasuk maintenance fee.

🔘 Jika rizab anda lemah, hati2 beli untuk pelaburan. Beli untuk duduk okay, tapi makan jem kayalah setiap hari.

🔘 Kawasan itu belum ada pusat komersial yang mantap.  Need time. Long term investment.

🔘 Ini bukan dibawah MBSA. Setia Alam dibawah MBSA. MDKS tidak setanding MBSA yang gagah.

#SayaPutarHalim!
#PlanetJaeger
#DisclaimerApplies
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Some is true but others are so funny.
typical mentality, to wait & see attitude
even shah alam also need so many years to well develop.
new area development of coz got all kind of weakness but will be improve later.
also the whole Puncak alam will become a new city not just another taman perumahan.

only one thing i really agree is ... for this time being, this housing area is good for owned stay or an asset for next generation. Not for rental or short term investment. If u got xtra money, then can buy for your kids ... then its up to them to stay or to sell later.

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That article is definitely interesting and most of the points have been discussed here. However, I feel that it is extremely early to compare Puncak Alam to Setia Alam not to mention the differences between the areas are pretty stark at least at the moment.

Any new development takes really long time to mature and thats something applicable to most areas. So, yes the doubts raised by the writer is definitely valid but there are some positives to consider as well I believe.
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somehow i feel the article a little racist... given that not all malays are the same and not all chinese are the same mentality... blink.gif blink.gif
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Some is true but others are so funny.
typical mentality, to wait & see attitude
even shah alam also need so many years to well develop.
new area development of coz got all kind of weakness but will be improve later.
also the whole Puncak alam will become a new city not just another taman perumahan.

only one thing i really agree is ... for this time being, this housing area is good for owned stay or an asset for next generation. Not for rental or short term investment. If u got xtra money, then can buy for your kids ... then its up to them to stay or to sell later.
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EW having a promotion for KWSP staff in which the discount that the KWSP staff get is 7% + 7%. KWSP head quarter will be moved to new building at kwasa land area and the distance from EG to that new building is about 25km. The offer might attract many of the staff to vest into EG and will push up EW sales eventually.
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EW having a promotion for KWSP staff in which the discount that the KWSP staff get is 7% + 7%. KWSP head quarter will be moved to new building at kwasa land area and the distance from EG to that new building is about 25km. The offer might attract many of the staff to vest into EG and will push up EW sales eventually.
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Is it!? Mind to tell the source of info?
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EW having a promotion for KWSP staff in which the discount that the KWSP staff get is 7% + 7%. KWSP head quarter will be moved to new building at kwasa land area and the distance from EG to that new building is about 25km. The offer might attract many of the staff to vest into EG and will push up EW sales eventually.
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KWSP staff always got advantage.
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yeah... i guess he just got con by the agents selling around Puncak Alam... haha... hence his negativity.... i do believe it will be good township on its own... if the government is developing the area... and the developments come in line with government vision... there will be definitely growth...

somehow i feel the article a little racist... given that not all malays are the same and not all chinese are the same mentality...  blink.gif  blink.gif
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I agree with his remarks just serves as personal opinion.

For me if it is too far frm KL, then will be a trouble for me.

Any where is d closest wet market any idea?
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QUOTE(ubi1kelubi @ Sep 15 2016, 11:35 AM)
EW having a promotion for KWSP staff in which the discount that the KWSP staff get is 7% + 7%. KWSP head quarter will be moved to new building at kwasa land area and the distance from EG to that new building is about 25km. The offer might attract many of the staff to vest into EG and will push up EW sales eventually.
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Wow that is a lot of %!
Why dont set a new pricing RM400K...huh!
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KWSP staff always got advantage.
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QUOTE(oxm8 @ Sep 15 2016, 12:49 PM)
Wow that is a lot of %!
Why dont set a new pricing RM400K...huh!
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Same goes to EW staff or their business associate/partner, sure they also got special price/discount. After all, there are about 2000 unit. They need to find buyer.
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Same goes to EW staff or their business associate/partner, sure they also got special price/discount. After all, there are about 2000 unit. They need to find buyer.
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I heard 5% discount for kwsp staff.
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my fren is kwsp staff  tongue.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif
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I see... any max quota set ie only for x number of KWSP staff?
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Damn nice wei, got 7%+7% discount.
For public buyer like us, will be in the losing side....if they still maintain 5% for public buyer....
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why EcoWorld give special rebate to KWSP staff? need EPF pump money to their project?
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Damn nice wei, got 7%+7% discount.
For public buyer like us, will be  in the losing side....if they still maintain 5% for public buyer....
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But #239 stated 5% as usual for KWSP staff only.
Logically speaking, I don't see reason for KWSP staff to have better discount than public as they are neither biz associates, VIP nor any special buyers. Personally I have doubts on the validity of the news about 7%+7% discount - unless the earlier press release (pls see link below) about the possible tie-up with KWSP in 3 other projects of which EG is one of it (seems to be) materialise.

http://www.thestar.com.my/business/busines...three-projects/

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EW having a promotion for KWSP staff in which the discount that the KWSP staff get is 7% + 7%. KWSP head quarter will be moved to new building at kwasa land area and the distance from EG to that new building is about 25km. The offer might attract many of the staff to vest into EG and will push up EW sales eventually.
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KWSP staff always got advantage.
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why EcoWorld give special rebate to KWSP staff? need EPF pump money to their project?
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I think so.....if this is true that if additional 1% or 2% is fine for me, but if EPF staff can get 7%+7%, and public only 5% max, I think is a bit ridiculous unfair to the public buyer.....


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7%+7%

one of the 7% is bumi discount?

by the way, EPF got invest in EG meh? I did not notice got EPF logo at the sales gallery. BBCC sales gallery got the EPF logo

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I see... any max quota set ie only for x number of KWSP staff?
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No quota but for 2 days only, today is last day.
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No quota but for 2 days only, today is last day.
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7%+7%

one of the 7% is bumi discount?

by the way, EPF got invest in EG meh? I did not notice got EPF logo at the sales gallery. BBCC sales gallery got the EPF logo
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EPF will pump some money into EG and EA development.

http://www.thestar.com.my/business/busines...three-projects/
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7%+7%

one of the 7% is bumi discount?

by the way, EPF got invest in EG meh? I did not notice got EPF logo at the sales gallery. BBCC sales gallery got the EPF logo
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EG is one of the projects that may be tied up with EPF
http://www.thestar.com.my/business/busines...three-projects/
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No quota but for 2 days only, today is last day.
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So you mean they will need to sign up in EPF HQ or how? They just give cheque first or can select unit straight?
If that is such case, will they have special privilege to choose the unit first beforehand then only give the not so good unit to public?
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EW having a promotion for KWSP staff in which the discount that the KWSP staff get is 7% + 7%. KWSP head quarter will be moved to new building at kwasa land area and the distance from EG to that new building is about 25km. The offer might attract many of the staff to vest into EG and will push up EW sales eventually.
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How about EPF members?
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How about EPF members?
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Lol I like this idea! biggrin.gif
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How about EPF members?
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Haha, we all are EPF Associate too.....can we get 7%+7% too? haha,.....
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Lol I like this idea! biggrin.gif
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Haha, we all are EPF Associate too.....can we get 7%+7% too? haha,.....
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If yes, I presume will b via ballot
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Indeed, if in such case, I think very high chance EW will do the balloting.....

But my question still concerning how can EPF staff can get higher rebate from the normal EW associate and public buyer? Unless that first 7% is bumi discount then is make sense....
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Indeed, if in such case, I think very high chance EW will do the balloting.....

But my question still concerning how can EPF staff can get higher rebate from the normal EW associate and public buyer? Unless that first 7% is bumi discount then is make sense....
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I agree with his remarks just serves as personal opinion.

For me if it is too far frm KL, then will be a trouble for me.

Any where is d closest wet market any idea?
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nope... not that i aware of... haha... maybe saujana utama there will have one... yeah... not everyone can tahan the minimum 45 mins travel from KL... I used to think the same way as u... but as at now... I am quite used to it... biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
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So you mean they will need to sign up in EPF HQ or how? They just give cheque first or can select unit straight?
If that is such case, will they have special privilege to choose the unit first beforehand then only give the not so good unit to public?
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unit selection same as public.

QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Sep 15 2016, 02:10 PM)
I blif 1st 7% is for bumi discount
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I blif also, my fren is bumi. meaning to say, kwsp staff got additional 2% discount compare to public.
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unit selection same as public.
I blif also, my fren is bumi. meaning to say, kwsp staff got additional 2% discount compare to public.
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If 2% then is make sense, as usual EW associate get 2% additional rebate if not wrong.
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nope... not that i aware of... haha... maybe saujana utama there will have one... yeah... not everyone can tahan the minimum 45 mins travel from KL... I used to think the same way as u... but as at now... I am quite used to it...  biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif
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Do u do weekend marketing? Where?

My company will move to PJ in 5 yrs time.

But i worry if move to here none of relative wanna visit me.
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unit selection same as public.
I blif also, my fren is bumi. meaning to say, kwsp staff got additional 2% discount compare to public.
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When is the unit selection?
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When is the unit selection?
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Do u do weekend marketing? Where?

My company will move to PJ in 5 yrs time.

But i worry if move to here none of relative wanna visit me.
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i dont really worry on my social circle... my frens and relatives scattered everywhere in the Klang Valley... so I think its quite ok to connect with those nearest to me only... lol....
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QUOTE(mascot_lim @ Sep 15 2016, 01:56 PM)
So you mean they will need to sign up in EPF HQ or how? They just give cheque first or can select unit straight?
If that is such case, will they have special privilege to choose the unit first beforehand then only give the not so good unit to public?
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Update on Ecoworld-EPF deal. Supposedly yesterday, epf staff is not allowed to select a unit but due to high response, EW allowed it. Sticker already placed together with previous EW associate who had selected the unit. According to my fren, sales quite good, many staff placed booking. Epf staff can just select the unit n come out with a cheque later. And for staff who miss the event, they still can go to sales gallery n get same offer sweat.gif
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Update on Ecoworld-EPF deal. Supposedly yesterday, epf staff is not allowed to select a unit but due to high response, EW allowed it. Sticker already placed together with previous EW associate who had selected the unit. According to my fren, sales quite good, many staff placed booking. Epf staff can just select the unit n come out with a cheque later. And for staff who miss the event, they still can go to sales  gallery n get same offer sweat.gif
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That means from 2 days it extended further now hmm.gif
Any indication how many EPF staff already did the selection?
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Update on Ecoworld-EPF deal. Supposedly yesterday, epf staff is not allowed to select a unit but due to high response, EW allowed it. Sticker already placed together with previous EW associate who had selected the unit. According to my fren, sales quite good, many staff placed booking. Epf staff can just select the unit n come out with a cheque later. And for staff who miss the event, they still can go to sales  gallery n get same offer sweat.gif
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brilliant move by EW ... rclxms.gif
they always have good strategy
no doubt about that
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QUOTE(ubi1kelubi @ Sep 15 2016, 08:37 PM)
Update on Ecoworld-EPF deal. Supposedly yesterday, epf staff is not allowed to select a unit but due to high response, EW allowed it. Sticker already placed together with previous EW associate who had selected the unit. According to my fren, sales quite good, many staff placed booking. Epf staff can just select the unit n come out with a cheque later. And for staff who miss the event, they still can go to sales  gallery n get same offer sweat.gif
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They will choose the units from the associate units or the public units?
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That means from 2 days it extended further now hmm.gif
Any indication how many EPF staff already did the selection?
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Not sure, didnt took any pic on the sale layout. Only time will tell when it open to public.

QUOTE(bob @ Sep 15 2016, 09:15 PM)
brilliant move by EW ... rclxms.gif
they always have good strategy
no doubt about  that
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Epf HQ quite many staff there, good strategy.

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They will choose the units from the associate units or the public units?
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Both, grey one for associate units also can be selected except for avenham type f. That one reserved to public selection sweat.gif
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Not sure, didnt took any pic on the sale layout. Only time will tell when it open to public.
Epf HQ quite many staff there, good strategy.
Both, grey one for associate units also can be selected except for avenham type f. That one reserved to public selection sweat.gif
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Not sure, didnt took any pic on the sale layout. Only time will tell when it open to public.
Epf HQ quite many staff there, good strategy.
Both, grey one for associate units also can be selected except for avenham type f. That one reserved to public selection sweat.gif
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So those got queue Nr. 01 to 10 very slim chance to get their preferred unit.. As I know Avenham BA section only left with less than 20 units
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Update on Ecoworld-EPF deal. Supposedly yesterday, epf staff is not allowed to select a unit but due to high response, EW allowed it. Sticker already placed together with previous EW associate who had selected the unit. According to my fren, sales quite good, many staff placed booking. Epf staff can just select the unit n come out with a cheque later. And for staff who miss the event, they still can go to sales  gallery n get same offer sweat.gif
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7% + 7% applicable to Graham and Avenham? Or Graham 7% + 5%. For Graham, EW only offer 5% for both new and repeat buyer.
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7% + 7% applicable to Graham and Avenham?  Or Graham 7% + 5%.  For Graham, EW only offer 5% for both new and repeat buyer.
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Boss, this one i'm not sure sweat.gif
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Not sure, didnt took any pic on the sale layout. Only time will tell when it open to public.
Epf HQ quite many staff there, good strategy.
Both, grey one for associate units also can be selected except for avenham type f. That one reserved to public selection sweat.gif
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really no use now since all already booked by them  bruce.gif
we get "left overs" only  blush.gif
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Indeed, if they booked in those associate / shaded area, then still fine for me. But if EW allowed them to select the unit which is suppose open for public selection, I think EW really unfair to those early throw check which mostly is their supporter.

Really disappointed in EW if this is happening thiugh we cannot do anything on this as this is their right in biz strategy.
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really no use now since all already booked by them  bruce.gif
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Indeed, if they booked in those associate / shaded area, then still fine for me. But if EW allowed them to select the unit which is suppose open for public selection, I think EW really unfair to those early throw check which mostly is their supporter.

Really disappointed in EW if this is happening thiugh we cannot do anything on this as this is their right in biz strategy.
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Indeed, if they booked in those associate / shaded area, then still fine for me. But if EW allowed them to select the unit which is suppose open for public selection, I think EW really unfair to those early throw check which mostly is their supporter.

Really disappointed in EW if this is happening thiugh we cannot do anything on this as this is their right in biz strategy.
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Indeed, if they booked in those associate / shaded area, then still fine for me. But if EW allowed them to select the unit which is suppose open for public selection, I think EW really unfair to those early throw check which mostly is their supporter.

Really disappointed in EW if this is happening thiugh we cannot do anything on this as this is their right in biz strategy.
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QUOTE(mascot_lim @ Sep 15 2016, 01:36 PM)
Damn nice wei, got 7%+7% discount.
For public buyer like us, will be  in the losing side....if they still maintain 5% for public buyer....
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Sep 16 2016, 07:30 AM)
I dun think EW will practice 'something' which will annoy their existing/loyal customers
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QUOTE(alankong @ Sep 16 2016, 09:50 AM)
Dont think EW so stupid, otherwise their image will spoil.
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Already confirmed.

They will prioritize to choose the unit first prior to open for public.
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QUOTE(DS4 @ Sep 16 2016, 10:06 AM)
Already confirmed.

They will prioritize to choose the unit first prior to open for public.
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I belived EW staff n BA reserverd units only.
They can choose public unit too?
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QUOTE(mascot_lim @ Sep 16 2016, 03:38 AM)
Indeed, if they booked in those associate / shaded area, then still fine for me. But if EW allowed them to select the unit which is suppose open for public selection, I think EW really unfair to those early throw check which mostly is their supporter.

Really disappointed in EW if this is happening thiugh we cannot do anything on this as this is their right in biz strategy.
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Common lo. EW is not saint...but many think they are. All threads on EW's proj is like promotional and sponsored threads by EW. All fansi still think EW ll create a utopia for thir premiumly priced-in property.

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QUOTE(alankong @ Sep 16 2016, 11:23 AM)
I belived EW staff n BA reserverd units only.
They can choose public unit too?
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Confirmed, can also choose public unit.

They are just like first round of VVIP that allowed to choose whatever unit first.

Then only come to general public.

Don't worry, if u can't get the unit u want,

They will fully refund .
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QUOTE(propertybbb @ Sep 16 2016, 12:00 PM)
Common lo. EW is not saint...but many think they are. All threads on EW's proj is like promotional and sponsored threads by EW. All fansi still think EW ll create a utopia for thir premiumly priced-in property.
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Expectation must be set right and realistic. Both EW and the buyers need to learn about expectation management, else the reality could bite them.
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EW offers to epf staff to choose before public? Offered for greyed unit or the coloured (public) unit? Ohh man... those who put their check got f#&$* liao.. so unfair!
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Dun worry...1800units..

Everybody can have a share in this havenly created masterpiece....

Upon vp...at least 1/3 will have for sale sign on...another 1/3 will wait for the final 1/3 to move in before they do.
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QUOTE(alankong @ Sep 16 2016, 11:23 AM)
I belived EW staff n BA reserverd units only.
They can choose public unit too?
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They can chose any units...
Saw in newspaper today, the demand is extremely good..
They way the article wrote, can sold out even before open to public blush.gif
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Sep 16 2016, 02:00 PM)
They can chose any units...
Saw in newspaper today, the demand is extremely good..
They way the article wrote, can sold out even before open to public blush.gif
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Bro, do you have the link of the newspapers article?

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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Sep 16 2016, 01:59 PM)
Dun worry...1800units..

Everybody can have a share in this havenly created masterpiece....

Upon vp...at least 1/3 will have for sale sign on...another 1/3 will wait for the final 1/3 to move in before they do.
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Graham is just normal terrace house with 18unit/acres.
Look carefully into their layout plan and can only see road and houses.
Very very minimum green area and facilities.
But have to impressed ECO World for able to sell below 500k.
This low cost landed terrace is worth to buy regardless the location.
Not heavenly master piece....

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QUOTE(DS4 @ Sep 16 2016, 02:48 PM)
Graham is just normal terrace house with 18unit/acres.
Look carefully into their layout plan and can only see road and houses.
Very very minimum green area and facilities.
But have to impressed ECO World for able to sell below 500k.
This low cost  landed terrace is worth to buy regardless the location.
Not heavenly master piece....
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Its start from below 500k....
Dunno how many of 1800 are below 500k....and if u can live w 2bedrooms upstairs and one bedroom downstair with net BU under 1300sq.

Cyberjaya south also has such configuration.
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QUOTE(DS4 @ Sep 16 2016, 02:48 PM)
Graham is just normal terrace house with 18unit/acres.
Look carefully into their layout plan and can only see road and houses.
Very very minimum green area and facilities.
But have to impressed ECO World for able to sell below 500k.
This low cost  landed terrace is worth to buy regardless the location.
Not heavenly master piece....
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18 units/acre? hmm.gif
Mind to give details how many units over how many acre? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Sep 16 2016, 02:00 PM)
They can chose any units...
Saw in newspaper today, the demand is extremely good..
They way the article wrote, can sold out even before open to public blush.gif
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QUOTE(Jasoncat @ Sep 16 2016, 03:07 PM)
18 units/acre? hmm.gif
Mind to give details how many units over how many acre? hmm.gif
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Sorry, private and confidential.

But if u take total 1800units in ?? Acres will also get the answer.

Do you think the phase 1 got 100 acres? Net land?

If less than 100 acres net land (after subdivided from entire 1400acres),

Then the density will be higher than 18unit/acres.
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Just came back from sales gallery, there were few hundred people in sale gallery. I didn't manage to get a SA to serve me coz all of them occupied with potential customers. The amazing thing is more than 50% people there are Chinese, which is good to boost multi races in puncak alam.

What I seen from their master plan, there are not much green zone as expected. Those green zone outside EG is occupied. At the back of Avenham and Graham, it wasn't green zone because it direct attached with MKH Hillpark.
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QUOTE(DS4 @ Sep 16 2016, 04:37 PM)
Sorry, private and confidential.

But if u take total 1800units in ?? Acres will also get the answer.

Do you think the phase 1 got 100 acres? Net land?

If less than 100 acres net land (after subdivided from entire 1400acres),

Then the density will be higher than 18unit/acres.
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P&C? Ok anyway this will be made known when /after they launch it.
Afaik, the density is 8 and 12 per acre respectively for Avenham and Graham. So far I'm not aware of any existing landed project of EW (Johor side not so sure though as my data corrupted) has density as high as 18 units/acre.
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The density will not different much nowadays. Average 10 per acre are minimum requirement for a new township
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QUOTE(autodriver @ Sep 16 2016, 06:07 PM)
Just came back from sales gallery, there were few hundred people in sale gallery. I didn't manage to get a SA to serve me coz all of them occupied with potential customers. The amazing thing is more than 50% people there are Chinese, which is good to boost multi races in puncak alam.

What I seen from their master plan, there are not much green zone as expected. Those green zone outside EG is occupied. At the back of Avenham and Graham, it wasn't green zone because it direct attached with MKH Hillpark.
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Few hundred people is a lot considering not big events there.
Manage to grab musang king? Lol.
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Sep 15 2016, 11:46 PM)
really no use now since all already booked by them  bruce.gif
we get "left overs" only  blush.gif
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QUOTE(autodriver @ Sep 16 2016, 06:07 PM)
Just came back from sales gallery, there were few hundred people in sale gallery. I didn't manage to get a SA to serve me coz all of them occupied with potential customers. The amazing thing is more than 50% people there are Chinese, which is good to boost multi races in puncak alam.

What I seen from their master plan, there are not much green zone as expected. Those green zone outside EG is occupied. At the back of Avenham and Graham, it wasn't green zone because it direct attached with MKH Hillpark.
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If 10% of those Ppl sign up, overall booking/take up rate will increase
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QUOTE(Jasoncat @ Sep 16 2016, 06:09 PM)
P&C? Ok anyway this will be made known when /after they launch it.
Afaik, the density is 8 and 12 per acre respectively for Avenham and Graham.  So far I'm not aware of any existing landed project of EW (Johor side not so sure though as my data corrupted) has density as high as 18 units/acre.
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18 unit/ acre is a high density, even for pr1ma landed house not that high density. But it seem not much detail on the house specifications such as ceiling height, how many electrical point, type of fitting n etc etc, nothing is stated. Is this their normal practice for their previous projects and it is assured they will give the best spec to buyer?
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QUOTE(ubi1kelubi @ Sep 16 2016, 09:19 PM)
18 unit/ acre is a high density, even for pr1ma landed house not that high density. But it seem not much detail on the house specifications such as ceiling height, how many electrical point, type of fitting n etc etc, nothing is stated. Is this their normal practice for their previous projects and it is assured they will give the best spec to buyer?
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I highly doubt that it will be 18 units/acre but no harm to ask for details / confirmation since the forumer said so. The very first landed precint of Eco Majestic which is the DSL is 12 units/acre. If I were to refer to the past launches eg Eco Majestic (except for the very first 2 precints) and Eco Sanctuary for reference, there will be brochures printed before the launch with site plan, building layout and specifications and the size of the precint / parcel would have already made known by then or earlier.
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QUOTE(Jasoncat @ Sep 16 2016, 11:42 PM)
I highly doubt that it will be 18 units/acre but no harm to ask for details / confirmation since the forumer said so. The very first landed precint of Eco Majestic which is the DSL is 12 units/acre.  If I were to refer to the past launches eg Eco Majestic (except for the very first 2 precints) and Eco Sanctuary for reference, there will be brochures printed before the launch with site plan, building layout and specifications and the size of the precint / parcel would have already made known by then or earlier.
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I also think that EG cannot share the details bcoz of yet to get the APDL. Which developer don't want fast2 share details and quick2 launch 😉
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QUOTE(Jasoncat @ Sep 16 2016, 11:42 PM)
I highly doubt that it will be 18 units/acre but no harm to ask for details / confirmation since the forumer said so. The very first landed precint of Eco Majestic which is the DSL is 12 units/acre.  If I were to refer to the past launches eg Eco Majestic (except for the very first 2 precints) and Eco Sanctuary for reference, there will be brochures printed before the launch with site plan, building layout and specifications and the size of the precint / parcel would have already made known by then or earlier.
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Cannot compare Grandeur with Sanctuary or even Majestic.
It's confirmed that Grandeur will be market for low and medium class landed particularly at this stage due to LEASEHOLD, location, accessibility.
But have to give credit to Grandeur for able to price contemporary design landed property below 500k. Not many developer in Kang valley would wanted to market at this price.
At this price, specifications, density turn out to be least important.

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QUOTE(DS4 @ Sep 17 2016, 10:26 AM)
Cannot compare Grandeur with Sanctuary or even Majestic.
It's confirmed that Grandeur will be market for low and medium class landed particularly at this stage due to LEASEHOLD, location, accessibility.
But have to give credit to Grandeur for able to price contemporary design landed property below 500k. Not many developer in Kang valley would wanted to market at this price.
At this price, specifications, density turn out to be least important.
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Agreed that EG is different from EM and ES. Comparing these, ES is for high end segment while EM is mid (to high) and that partly explain the entry price. Having said that, I hold different view on the density part. Anyway, we shall know it by the time they launch.
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EG first phase is started below RM500k to attract buyers and increase the take up rate, that's sales gimmick. With about 1800units for first launch, the sales may not achieve as expected within the estimated time frame if the price isn't attractive.

It is a strategy to launched Aveham and Graham because these phases are located right beside Hillpark. The potential buyers are not feeling the place very ulu. I think the price for next phases for double storey (similar 20x65 if any) is nothing below 600k definitely. Consider the LBS project will becoming their neighbor soon, the price will no longer stand at medium level.
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Anyhow it is good for the entire Puncak Alam GDV and property value. Good sign getting more big developers coming for development.
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QUOTE(autodriver @ Sep 17 2016, 12:05 PM)
EG first phase is started below RM500k to attract buyers and increase the take up rate, that's sales gimmick. With about 1800units for first launch, the sales may not achieve as expected within the estimated time frame if the price isn't attractive.

It is a strategy to launched Aveham and Graham because these phases are located right beside Hillpark. The potential buyers are not feeling the place very ulu. I think the price for next phases for double storey (similar 20x65 if any) is nothing below 600k definitely. Consider the LBS project will becoming their neighbor soon, the price will no longer stand at medium level.
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LBS when they brought the land,
They have also plan for low cost at this area.
ECO and LBS is obviously two distinctive developers' with different port folio and target market.
LBS is good in low cost strategy.
Unless Tropicana come in and will increase.the landed.price. CANAL city is very good example...
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QUOTE(DS4 @ Sep 17 2016, 01:14 PM)
LBS when they brought the land,
They have also plan for low cost at this area.
ECO and LBS is obviously two distinctive developers' with different port folio and  target market.
LBS is good in low cost strategy.
Unless Tropicana come in and will increase.the landed.price. CANAL city is very good example...
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+1.
Different target segment & different league. Looking at the land size of LBS deal with the corresponding GDV already implied the products that it is going to offer.
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"EG ini leasehold dengan sekatan. Bumi sukar jual pada non bumi. Market tersekat. Di Setia Alam, hartanahnya ialah Freehold tanpa sekatan. Market subsale bagi bumi disitu amatlah luas sekali."

Saw this comment.. Is it true or only apply to certain Land Office?
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QUOTE(samkps @ Sep 17 2016, 01:44 PM)
"EG ini leasehold dengan sekatan. Bumi sukar jual pada non bumi. Market tersekat. Di Setia Alam, hartanahnya ialah Freehold tanpa sekatan. Market subsale bagi bumi disitu amatlah luas sekali."

Saw this comment..  Is it true or only apply to certain Land Office?
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Yes. Need also look at the sekatan penting and special condition implied for the land title.
Under the Malaysia land law, LEASEHOLD land with special condition , say limited sales and purchase conditions will limit the selling to certain group of people.

Anyway, don't need to worry so much. Usually, developer also have hard time to sell Bumi reserve lot. So, as you....

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QUOTE(DS4 @ Sep 17 2016, 02:24 PM)
Yes. Need also look at the sekatan penting and special condition implied for the land title.
Under the Malaysia land law, LEASEHOLD land with special condition , say limited sales and purchase conditions will limit the selling to certain group of people.

Anyway, don't need to worry so much. Usually, developer also have hard time to sell Bumi reserve lot. So, as you....
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Non-bumi units under leasehold, normally with what kind of limited sales and purchaser conditions?
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QUOTE(samkps @ Sep 17 2016, 02:32 PM)
Non-bumi units under leasehold, normally with what kind of limited sales and purchaser conditions?
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Depending on what is written in the land title.
The most common one is the limiting sales and purchase to others unless with the approval of the land office.
On land office side, if under Selangor, u can also refer to Selangor land law act.
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QUOTE(DS4 @ Sep 17 2016, 01:14 PM)
LBS when they brought the land,
They have also plan for low cost at this area.
ECO and LBS is obviously two distinctive developers' with different port folio and  target market.
LBS is good in low cost strategy.
Unless Tropicana come in and will increase.the landed.price. CANAL city is very good example...
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Tropicana come in will definitely adding the propert value if they willing to invest in puncak alam. At the moment puncak alam is highly depend on IJM, Worldwide, EW and MKH to grow the population as well as the GDV.

The new township of LBS & Worldwide is nearby exit of Puncak Alam toward Jalan Kuala Selangor, there should has no reason MDKS not widening the road since Worldwide was wholly owned by Selangor state government. Hehe


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A smart purchaser will appreciate the township development due to high potential for future Investment and growing.
But for developers', township development really affected their cashflow especially the land holding cost (if u not jv with land owner)
Majority of township development will require some times to digest especially at current market with very slow take up rate.
The higher the land cost, the frequent tHe launching between each phases is require in order tO regain your capital equity.
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QUOTE(autodriver @ Sep 17 2016, 05:03 PM)
Tropicana come in will definitely adding the propert value if they willing to invest in puncak alam. At the moment puncak alam is highly depend on IJM, Worldwide, EW and MKH to grow the population as well as the GDV.

The new township of LBS & Worldwide is nearby exit of Puncak Alam toward Jalan Kuala Selangor, there should has no reason MDKS not widening the road since Worldwide was wholly owned by Selangor state government. Hehe
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Only Malaysia have this kind of opportunity.
That's also answer to the question that why property price has increased significantly.
Because Malaysia has too many in power organisation without needed to invest but can enjoy the return....
Sometimes, buying the expensive property is also in directly spoon feed those conglomerate

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QUOTE(DS4 @ Sep 17 2016, 04:21 PM)
Depending on what is written in the land title.
The most common one is the limiting sales and purchase to others unless with the approval of the land office.
On land office side, if under Selangor, u can also refer to Selangor land law act.
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Approval of the land office is depending on Selangor land law act, no?

So shall the bumi face difficulty to sell the non-bumi units to non-bumi for the leasehold property? Stated in the act? hmm.gif
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RM0.00 <EcoWorld> Collect your unit selection's Queue No. today @ Eco Grandeur Gallery! 10.30am-5pm. 1st come 1st served. Bring your Reg. No. Info 0333425252
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RM0.00 <EcoWorld> Collect your unit selection's Queue No. today @ Eco Grandeur Gallery! 10.30am-5pm. 1st come 1st served. Bring your Reg. No. Info 0333425252
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QUOTE(168168 @ Sep 18 2016, 09:03 AM)
RM0.00 <EcoWorld> Collect your unit selection's Queue No. today @ Eco Grandeur Gallery! 10.30am-5pm. 1st come 1st served. Bring your Reg. No. Info 0333425252
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Good luck!
At least still have 1 hour++ to get ready and vroom vroom to the sales gallery tongue.gif

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Good luck!
At least still have 1 hour++ to get ready and vroom vroom to the sales gallery tongue.gif
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Definitely need 1h to reach if from kl 😝
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Eco World's sales targets are: RM4 billion for this financial year ending Oct 31, 2016 (FY16), and RM4.5 billion the following year. The group currently has 11 ongoing projects, which could reach 18 by the end of next year.so is hit target ?
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QUOTE(mascot_lim @ Sep 18 2016, 10:15 AM)
Rushing vroom vroom now avyone?
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Waaa... they do last minute like this ar? What if people not from Klang Valley? At least 1 or 2 days earlier ok lor...
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Waaa... they do last minute like this ar? What if people not from Klang Valley? At least 1 or 2 days earlier ok lor...
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If 1d earlier there will be camping which is not really good lar. Better last minute and first come first serve lor.
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Whoever there mind to share some pictures?

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Thanks.  You got good number?
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QUOTE(Randy2552 @ Sep 18 2016, 11:46 AM)
Why last min...my pic fre share for me..
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Still got some time to vroom all the way to EG mah tongue.gif
Add more excitements for EG interested buyers for this Sunday. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Jasoncat @ Sep 18 2016, 12:49 PM)
Still got some time to vroom all the way to EG mah tongue.gif
Add more excitements for EG interested buyers for this Sunday. tongue.gif
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I go to EG Is so far..around wn 4~5hr....but i see master plan
Type A hv 156 unit,Type B hv 42 ,Type C hv 240,Type D hv 60 unit...

Total Graham =498 unit


Total Avenham =482 unit

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QUOTE(Randy2552 @ Sep 18 2016, 12:01 PM)
I go to EG  Is so far..around wn 4~5hr....but i see master plan
Type A hv 156 unit,Type B hv 42 ,Type C hv 240,Type D hv 60 unit...

Total Graham =498 unit
Total Avenham =482 unit
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I believe what stated are the units open for sale to public?

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I believe what stated are the units open for sale to public?
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so far so good. at 12pm the queue no is exceed 500.
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No crazy q this time smile.gif. Propcafe baru published their review....aiya today launch le. Only half for sales?
http://propcafe.net/eco-grandeur-puncak-alam-by-eco-world/

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QUOTE(faeezmaan @ Sep 18 2016, 12:39 PM)
so far so good. at 12pm the queue no is exceed 500.
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QUOTE(propertybbb @ Sep 18 2016, 01:44 PM)
No crazy q this time smile.gif. Propcafe baru published their review....aiya today launch le. Only half for sales?
http://propcafe.net/eco-grandeur-puncak-alam-by-eco-world/
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If hit target or what?
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just arrived. the queue number reached 600 already.
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QUOTE(propertybbb @ Sep 18 2016, 12:44 PM)
No crazy q this time smile.gif. Propcafe baru published their review....aiya today launch le. Only half for sales?
http://propcafe.net/eco-grandeur-puncak-alam-by-eco-world/
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A good and comprehensive review but a bit of bias comments
especially in term of future prediction and forecasting of development.
Don't forget, nowadays readers are also knowledgeable.
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graham open 300++ unit only for selection day
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just arrived. the queue number reached 600 already.
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QUOTE(halo5 @ Sep 18 2016, 02:34 PM)
graham open 300++ unit only for selection day
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Wah public also got 600 queue, crazy.
Looks like really got chance to finish it up if Reserved also fully taken up
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QUOTE(DS4 @ Sep 18 2016, 01:27 PM)
A good and comprehensive review but a bit of bias comments
especially in term of future prediction and forecasting of development.
Don't forget, nowadays readers are also knowledgeable.
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All reports sure got bias lah...

As reader u need to do due diligent also...tak kan rush in and bbb bcos propcafe gives +ve reviews.

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QUOTE(Randy2552 @ Sep 18 2016, 12:01 PM)
I go to EG  Is so far..around wn 4~5hr....but i see master plan
Type A hv 156 unit,Type B hv 42 ,Type C hv 240,Type D hv 60 unit...

Total Graham =498 unit
Total Avenham =482 unit
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Yeah. Finally somebody noticed this. I also wanna ask this question long time after got their brochure but keep it zip first and sedapkan hati. They claim 1000+800 for both phase. But i didnt see that.

If bro randy say is true. Then, chances to get 1 unit are really slim. Plus, looking at today response is already 600++ ppl queue.

Or matematik i salah?
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If all 600 numbers turned out to be proper booking...not bad lah the responses...

Bcos ew launches 1800 units in one go...and many potential buyers also travel interstates or holidaying..not in klang valley...

Beside this is in ijok.....not exactly a super hot spot.
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QUOTE(propertybbb @ Sep 18 2016, 12:44 PM)
No crazy q this time smile.gif. Propcafe baru published their review....aiya today launch le. Only half for sales?
http://propcafe.net/eco-grandeur-puncak-alam-by-eco-world/
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Boring terrace house, boring size and layout..for this price got many option in the market, no need go so far till Kuala Selangor..have you ask the ceiling height for ground floor and first floor? Propcafe review often forgot to show the ceiling height leh
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QUOTE(Randy2552 @ Sep 18 2016, 12:01 PM)
I go to EG  Is so far..around wn 4~5hr....but i see master plan
Type A hv 156 unit,Type B hv 42 ,Type C hv 240,Type D hv 60 unit...

Total Graham =498 unit
Total Avenham =482 unit
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Gng for this project, any clubhouse info can share? Maintenances, facilities etc??
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anyone know if there is more unit available?
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QUOTE(Nymphetamine666 @ Sep 18 2016, 02:43 PM)
Yeah. Finally somebody noticed this.  I also wanna ask this question long time after got their brochure but keep it zip first and sedapkan hati. They claim 1000+800 for both phase. But i didnt see that.

If bro randy say is true. Then, chances to get 1 unit are really slim. Plus, looking at today response is already 600++ ppl queue.

Or matematik i salah?
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Avenham total is 812 units
Graham total is 1012 units.
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Jz came back from eco grandeur....amazing ! smile.gif
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Jz came back from eco grandeur....amazing ! smile.gif
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Ambitious smile.gif I think it's more of a social project too in some ways....
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SA told first ticket today issued at no.301, not 001.

If 600+ issued today, in actual queue/pax halfed at 300+?

Any truth to this?
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Anybody got the brochure and layout?
Can post here?

Sorry just arrived...
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QUOTE(Longshot @ Sep 18 2016, 03:47 PM)
Anybody got the brochure and layout?
Can post here?

Sorry just arrived...
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Bro you can refer to PropCafe:
http://propcafe.net/eco-grandeur-puncak-alam-by-eco-world/
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QUOTE(Jasoncat @ Sep 18 2016, 03:58 PM)
Jason Kor,
Not sure why but when i visit propcafe, their link of the floorplan are all "Not Found" cry.gif
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He reach sales gallery already...haha..
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QUOTE(Longshot @ Sep 18 2016, 04:04 PM)
Jason Kor,
Not sure why but when i visit propcafe, their link of the floorplan are all "Not Found"  cry.gif
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Same issue here bro but you can hard press it and then save image.
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Same issue here bro but you can hard press it and then save image.
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Ok, will try..
Haven't been visiting the forum for some time...
Got loss and quite alot of development discussed / launch despite the slow market..

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QUOTE(Longshot @ Sep 18 2016, 04:12 PM)
Ok, will try..
Haven't been visiting the forum for some time...
Got loss and quite alot of development discussed / launch despite the slow market..
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QUOTE(faeezmaan @ Sep 18 2016, 12:39 PM)
so far so good. at 12pm the queue no is exceed 500.
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the number start from 300.
when I leave around 2pm, I saw number 6xx and no more ppl queueing outside.

compare to the broucher when I placed the cheque last month... they have blocked more rows for phase 2...


not sure if EPF staff can select those open for public, if can and due to this last minute sms, EW fans sure boh shong...

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QUOTE(propusers @ Sep 18 2016, 05:47 PM)
the number start from 300.
when I leave around 2pm, I saw number 6xx and no more ppl queueing outside.
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1800units with 3xx tickets...many to choose la...
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QUOTE(propertybbb @ Sep 18 2016, 04:53 PM)
1800units with 3xx tickets...many to choose la...
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no leh... some already block for staff and BA... some block for 2nd phase...

I calculate the no of units for public selection next Sunday is 378 for Graham and 394 for Avenham. Yes, Graham is lesser unit for public this round.

if EPF staff choose unit first, then lagi slim chance to select preferred unit.

give cheque sincerely and show our interest earlier also useless!!! KWSP got job interview boh? no need so susah give cheque and go Sales gallery. The SA will setup booth at KWSP office and serve you.

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QUOTE(Jack Bauer 525 @ Sep 18 2016, 03:42 PM)
SA told first ticket today issued at no.301, not 001.

If 600+ issued today, in actual queue/pax halfed at 300+?

Any truth to this?
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those not aware may thought got 600 potential buyers. marketing gimmick. purposely skip 300 no to create excitement.
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QUOTE(Longshot @ Sep 18 2016, 04:04 PM)
Jason Kor,
Not sure why but when i visit propcafe, their link of the floorplan are all "Not Found"  cry.gif
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Tough available in their website already biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(propusers @ Sep 18 2016, 05:02 PM)
no leh... some already block for staff and BA... some block for 2nd phase...

I calculate the no of units for public selection next Sunday is 378 for Graham and 394 for Avenham. Yes, Graham is lesser unit for public this round.

if EPF staff choose unit first, then lagi slim chance to select preferred unit.

give cheque sincerely and show our interest earlier also useless!!! KWSP got job interview boh? no need so susah give cheque and go Sales gallery. The SA will setup booth at KWSP office and serve you.
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Then better u join ECo,
Probably got priorities plus staff discount? whistling.gif whistling.gif

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Detail review from propcafe.
http://propcafe.net/eco-grandeur-puncak-alam-by-eco-world/

By the way, some rows have been blocked. Not available for next Sunday launch.

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QUOTE(propusers @ Sep 18 2016, 06:02 PM)
no leh... some already block for staff and BA... some block for 2nd phase...

I calculate the no of units for public selection next Sunday is 378 for Graham and 394 for Avenham. Yes, Graham is lesser unit for public this round.

if EPF staff choose unit first, then lagi slim chance to select preferred unit.

give cheque sincerely and show our interest earlier also useless!!! KWSP got job interview boh? no need so susah give cheque and go Sales gallery. The SA will setup booth at KWSP office and serve you.
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Indeed.
We dunno why the selection unit is lesser , & If there are so many VVip & so much priority for some group,
then what for we place cheque ealier ?
Also , why so last minute notice ? I receive their message on 8:22am , luckily didnt go for out station or for holiday ,
but unfortunately just read the message on 10:00am ...
Feeling like been main main by the them ... 😬😬😬
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Meaning you guys get to book today? Looks like internal purchase got most of the units d
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QUOTE(12San @ Sep 18 2016, 06:00 PM)
Indeed.
We dunno why the selection unit is lesser , & If there are so many VVip & so much priority for some group,
then what for we place cheque ealier ?
Also ,  why so last minute notice ? I receive their message on 8:22am , luckily didnt go for out station or for holiday ,
but unfortunately just read the message on 10:00am ...
Feeling like been main main by the them ... 😬😬😬
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Chill bro, this is typical EW style......
Even ESC last time phase 1 also the same....
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QUOTE(12San @ Sep 18 2016, 06:00 PM)
Indeed.
We dunno why the selection unit is lesser , & If there are so many VVip & so much priority for some group,
then what for we place cheque ealier ?
Also ,  why so last minute notice ? I receive their message on 8:22am , luckily didnt go for out station or for holiday ,
but unfortunately just read the message on 10:00am ...
Feeling like been main main by the them ... 😬😬😬
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I think one the reason why still have many un-open units,
Is actually reserve for those missed the sms or turn up late.
At least have changes for next sums call.
Anyhow, from positive point of view,
This is quite a good experience for this kind of unit selection arrangement.. icon_rolleyes.gif

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On the 25th, will they give the full spec brochure for both phase? Like those having the detail floor plan, each room measurement, no. Of switches, a/c point, etc.. alaa, like we normally saw other Dev did. Current brochure not entirely complete info on the unit features.

How's the previous ew style at EM and ES? Pls share. Tq.

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QUOTE(Nymphetamine666 @ Sep 18 2016, 07:41 PM)
On the 25th, will they give the full spec brochure for both  phase? Like those having the detail floor plan, each room measurement, no. Of switches, a/c point, etc.. alaa, like we normally saw other Dev did. Current brochure not entirely complete info on the unit features.

How's the previous ew style at EM and ES? Pls share. Tq.
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From what i heard, they will provide us all the necessary spec features.....
However, from what i know, it wont be the comprehensive spec, as certain things we need to upgrade ourselves....

Jus hope on next week we can have "comprehensive spec" at the unit as well as the linear garden....
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QUOTE(Nymphetamine666 @ Sep 18 2016, 07:41 PM)
On the 25th, will they give the full spec brochure for both  phase? Like those having the detail floor plan, each room measurement, no. Of switches, a/c point, etc.. alaa, like we normally saw other Dev did. Current brochure not entirely complete info on the unit features.

How's the previous ew style at EM and ES? Pls share. Tq.
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Probably this is first time in their history in pricing landed property below RM500k (Klang valley),
Therefore, the contract department is still working with design and planning department in determining
Appropriate product and specification that "match" the selling price of RM500k and below....
Believe me, it has not been easy nowadays for pricing below RM500k especially in Klang valley area
That the construction been increased significantly for the pass few years...
Should give some credit to them for selling LOW COST landed this time... rclxs0.gif

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as for me, i dont receive any sms from EW..i noticed the announcement via fB..then rushing to EG and managed to get que no 587..so sad.. sad.gif

eventhough i placed the cheque earlier which is 2 days after launching Sales gallery, but is useless. bangwall.gif

In 25th, they will be unit selection and SPA signing..i told the SA i will not sign the SPA document until i get my loan approve, lucky SA said can.

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QUOTE(mascot_lim @ Sep 18 2016, 07:31 PM)
Chill bro, this is typical EW style......
Even ESC last time phase 1 also the same....
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Glad to c so many potential buyers rushed to collect numbers
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QUOTE(mascot_lim @ Sep 18 2016, 07:45 PM)
From what i heard, they will provide us all the necessary spec features.....
However, from what i know, it wont be the comprehensive spec, as certain things we need to upgrade ourselves....

Jus hope on next week we can have "comprehensive spec" at the unit as well as the linear garden....
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QUOTE(DS4 @ Sep 18 2016, 07:50 PM)
Probably this is first time in their history in pricing landed property below RM500k (Klang valley),
Therefore, the contract department is still working with design and planning department in determining
Appropriate product and specification that "match" the selling price of RM500k and below....
Believe me, it has not been easy nowadays for pricing below RM500k especially in Klang valley area
That the construction been increased significantly for the pass few years...
Should give some credit to them for selling LOW COST landed this time... rclxs0.gif
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Yeah. Full comprehensive spec are really required.

Contract dept start to do within 1 week before launch?? Cannot be what.. i think those (planning/design for budgetary) already in their project cost already. It's just the matter letting the buyer know early, later or last minute only. For 1 week, i think their in the process of printing it or collecting it from publication shop and bring it to sales galery only. Or, probably in the office at the sales galery liao.

Unless they work like robot bruce.gif

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QUOTE(kay0901 @ Sep 18 2016, 08:21 PM)
as for me, i dont receive any sms from EW..i noticed the announcement via fB..then rushing to EG and managed to get que no 587..so sad..  sad.gif

eventhough i placed the cheque earlier which is 2 days after launching Sales gallery, but is useless. bangwall.gif

In 25th, they will be unit selection and SPA signing..i told the SA i will not sign the SPA document until i get my loan approve, lucky SA said can.
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QUOTE(Nymphetamine666 @ Sep 18 2016, 07:41 PM)
On the 25th, will they give the full spec brochure for both  phase? Like those having the detail floor plan, each room measurement, no. Of switches, a/c point, etc.. alaa, like we normally saw other Dev did. Current brochure not entirely complete info on the unit features.

How's the previous ew style at EM and ES? Pls share. Tq.
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Previously for EM, the launch of first two landed precints are without much details not even the spec on the brochure. The subsequent launch of EM and launch of ES then come with the general specs (eg type of doors, wall finishes, floor finishes, light/electrical/air-cond points, fencing etc) printed on the brochure like other developers do in general.

Hehe... you can imagine how "brave" the EM earlier buyers then. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(kay0901 @ Sep 18 2016, 08:21 PM)
as for me, i dont receive any sms from EW..i noticed the announcement via fB..then rushing to EG and managed to get que no 587..so sad..  sad.gif

eventhough i placed the cheque earlier which is 2 days after launching Sales gallery, but is useless. bangwall.gif

In 25th, they will be unit selection and SPA signing..i told the SA i will not sign the SPA document until i get my loan approve, lucky SA said can.
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I think this is a gross mistake made by them which shouldn't happen notwithstanding oversight sometimes may happen. doh.gif
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Glad to c so many potential buyers rushed to collect numbers
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just go try my luck only... saw the sms at 10am... rush there already 11am...

previous post got ppl mention 600 cheques collected. My number is 5xx (first number is 300). don't know lucky or not? haha... just try to get my desired unit but the chances looks like very slim jor...

feel kena main by EW. last minute sms. If outstation then how?
I ask the SA why so last minute inform. The reason given is "it is not fair to other ppl who cannot queue overnight and it is fair to sms everybody and first come first serve." doh.gif doh.gif

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QUOTE(propusers @ Sep 18 2016, 11:19 PM)
just go try my luck only... saw the sms at 10am... rush there already 11am...

previous post got ppl mention 600 cheques collected. My number is 5xx (first number is 300). don't know lucky or not? haha... just try to get my desired unit but the chances looks like very slim jor...

feel kena main by EW. last minute sms. If outstation then how?
I ask the SA why so last minute inform. The reason given is "it is not fair to other ppl who cannot queue overnight and it is fair to sms everybody and first come first serve."  doh.gif  doh.gif
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what such BS reply from the SA bruce.gif

just tell all the "good" units have been "taken" by "VIP" devil.gif

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Ijok kuala sellangor also can consider aa klang valley...

Nanti later ipoh launches also can called part of greatest greater klang valley lioa.
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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Sep 18 2016, 11:43 PM)
Ijok kuala sellangor also can consider aa klang valley...

Nanti later ipoh launches also can called part of greatest greater klang valley lioa.
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until now I'm getting different answer on the definition Klang Valley area.
don't know which is which rclxub.gif
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as for me, i dont receive any sms from EW..i noticed the announcement via fB..then rushing to EG and managed to get que no 587..so sad..  sad.gif

eventhough i placed the cheque earlier which is 2 days after launching Sales gallery, but is useless. bangwall.gif

In 25th, they will be unit selection and SPA signing..i told the SA i will not sign the SPA document until i get my loan approve, lucky SA said can.
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if first queue number for today is 301 , meanwhile the 001 to 300 already taken / reserve for VVIp ?!! well... nothing is impossible... 😱
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QUOTE(propusers @ Sep 18 2016, 11:19 PM)
just go try my luck only... saw the sms at 10am... rush there already 11am...

previous post got ppl mention 600 cheques collected. My number is 5xx (first number is 300). don't know lucky or not? haha... just try to get my desired unit but the chances looks like very slim jor...

feel kena main by EW. last minute sms. If outstation then how?
I ask the SA why so last minute inform. The reason given is "it is not fair to other ppl who cannot queue overnight and it is fair to sms everybody and first come first serve."  doh.gif  doh.gif
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if first queue number for today is 301 , meanwhile the 001 to 300 already taken / reserve for VVIp ?!!  well...  nothing is impossible... 😱
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Anything is possible in M'sia  biggrin.gif
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Boring terrace house, boring size and layout..for this price got many option in the market, no need go so far till Kuala Selangor..have you ask the ceiling height for ground floor and first floor? Propcafe review often forgot to show the ceiling height leh
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hmm... for this price for a landed.... which nearer location would you suggest? and how do you define your far until kuala selangor....? smile.gif smile.gif
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Sep 19 2016, 12:11 AM)
until now I'm getting different answer on the definition Klang Valley area. 
don't know which is which rclxub.gif
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there is no correct definition of klang valley.
best you can find is original klang valley where other places were still hutan hutan.....

then someone expanded the scope and called it greater klang valley......

now someone even expand the scope further by calling Ijok as part of klang valley.

I guess its by your imagination to define the scope of klang valley.
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hmm... for this price for a landed.... which nearer location would you suggest? and how do you define your far until kuala selangor....?  smile.gif  smile.gif
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I presume u stay nearby as 1 hour to react n reach is consider fast
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haha... I think weekend traffic... should be ok even u travel from KL haha... but yea... 10 mins top for your personal preparation before rushing out... biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
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how about cyber south, dengkil?
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haha cybersouth, dengkil.... now only left RM800k units only leh... their similar pricing landed already sold out at least during the mid of last year... haha... from there travel to KL also can also consider far one... I dont find any similar pricing new landed that can be consider as nearer yet at this price... hence I like to look for his opinion... subsales no need say la... nowadays subsales market... u can bully owners with no holding power...
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haha cybersouth, dengkil.... now only left RM800k units only leh... their similar pricing landed already sold out at least during the mid of last year... haha... from there travel to KL also can also consider far one... I dont find any similar pricing new landed that can be consider as nearer yet at this price... hence I like to look for his opinion... subsales no need say la... nowadays subsales market... u can bully owners with no holding power...
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aaron, you bought yr Hillpark earlier right? about the same time Cybersouth launched its 1st phase??? no???

At least cyber south close to Putra/cyber and even dengkil itself banyak makan makanan....puchong is not that far away...

imagine driving 15kms to the nearest civilasation....

OKie enuf talk of Ijok....
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Sep 19 2016, 10:00 AM)
haha cybersouth, dengkil.... now only left RM800k units only leh... their similar pricing landed already sold out at least during the mid of last year... haha... from there travel to KL also can also consider far one... I dont find any similar pricing new landed that can be consider as nearer yet at this price... hence I like to look for his opinion... subsales no need say la... nowadays subsales market... u can bully owners with no holding power...
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That's true. Dengkil is also about 35km from PJ and 45km from KL. If I remember correctly even the launching price was 600k++ around early last year. The remaining available units are all at least 750k++

Cybersouth is planning to launch townhouses at indicative price of 400k. But its been more than 3 months since the announcement on their website. The indicative buildup is 1200 sqft if I'm not wrong. The last I checked with their sales agent, tentatively might launch in Dec 2016.
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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Sep 19 2016, 10:05 AM)
aaron, you bought yr Hillpark earlier right? about the same time Cybersouth launched its 1st phase??? no???

At least cyber south close to Putra/cyber and even dengkil itself banyak makan makanan....puchong is not that far away...

imagine driving 15kms to the nearest civilasation....

OKie enuf talk of Ijok....
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not really earlier... the time when i started to hunt for landed... cybersouth already selling at 660k also... same like my hse price at Hillpark... biggrin.gif biggrin.gif Cybersouth first phase I think starting to sell at the same time as Hillpark here also...

haha... there is no right or wrong of talking about ijok... for me... I did visited Cybersouth site before... and need to drive 10 mins to get to the center of Cyberjaya... and some ppl have diff preference ma... thats why they also sold out all their earlier phases... until the RM800k units... selling for one year plus liao.... biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(lustremoon @ Sep 19 2016, 10:06 AM)
That's true. Dengkil is also about 35km from PJ and 45km from KL. If I remember correctly even the launching price was 600k++ around early last year. The remaining available units are all at least 750k++

Cybersouth is planning to launch townhouses at indicative price of 400k. But its been more than 3 months since the announcement on their website. The indicative buildup is 1200 sqft if I'm not wrong. The last I checked with their sales agent, tentatively might launch in Dec 2016.
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no lah...their 1st phase 18x70 around 400k+ nia...3bedroom type...but much modern façade than EcoGrandeur....but non gng.....
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QUOTE(lustremoon @ Sep 19 2016, 10:06 AM)
That's true. Dengkil is also about 35km from PJ and 45km from KL. If I remember correctly even the launching price was 600k++ around early last year. The remaining available units are all at least 750k++

Cybersouth is planning to launch townhouses at indicative price of 400k. But its been more than 3 months since the announcement on their website. The indicative buildup is 1200 sqft if I'm not wrong. The last I checked with their sales agent, tentatively might launch in Dec 2016.
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IINM they launched their condo there right? townhouse at 400k... with 1200 sq ft... hmm... the 600k++ around the first half of the year... the 400k units sold at the year before that... and sekejap habis liao... haha...
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no lah...their 1st phase 18x70 around 400k+ nia...3bedroom type...but much modern façade than EcoGrandeur....but non gng.....
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yea... the pricing for first phase is around 400k... if nt wrong macam sold out during year 2014... I remember they are gateless concept also.... should be gng also right....
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if first queue number for today is 301 , meanwhile the 001 to 300 already taken / reserve for VVIp ?!!  well...  nothing is impossible... 😱
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Well like I said previously, the "good" units has been "taken", we get the balance only...
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yea... the pricing for first phase is around 400k... if nt wrong macam sold out during year 2014... I remember they are gateless concept also.... should be gng also right....
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no lah...their 1st phase 18x70 around 400k+ nia...3bedroom type...but much modern façade than EcoGrandeur....but non gng.....
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Oh, my bad sorry... Those were probably the earliest phases. The ones I remember were last year around 600k ...which were probably the newer phases
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battle of north vs south.

ioi also launched landed in sepang.

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battle of north vs south.

ioi also launched landed in sepang.
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Yeah, thats what it looks like. But currently looks like south is developing at a faster rate maybe? What do you guys think?
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Yeah, thats what it looks like. But currently looks like south is developing at a faster rate maybe? What do you guys think?
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the potential for north to fully develop might be faster but will max up very fast compare to the south... the southern side have more potential to grow even towards seremban area... the northern side the further in u go the lesser opportunities for the housebuyers... landbank are plenty but job opportunities and amenities are limited getting further in the North... thats the issue in northern side here... hence why i say North will come very hot and eventually maybe will limit their growth very fast as well... its just my one sided opinion anyway...
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what is going on?
http://www.bursamalaysia.com/market/listed...cements/5207329

ECO WORLD DEVELOPMENT GROUP BERHAD ("EW BERHAD")

(I) ACQUISITION BY ECO GRANDEUR SDN BHD ("ECO GRANDEUR"), A WHOLLY-OWNED SUBSIDIARY OF EW BERHAD OF 50% EQUITY INTEREST IN ECO ARDENCE SDN BHD (FORMERLY KNOWN AS JENDELA HIKMAT SDN BHD) FOR A TOTAL PURCHASE CONSIDERATION OF RM303,500,000 ("ACQUISITION"); AND

(II) JOINT VENTURE BETWEEN ECO GRANDEUR AND CASCARA SDN BHD ("JOINT VENTURE")

(COLLECTIVELY REFERRED TO AS THE "PROPOSALS")

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Yeah lur so sad... yesterday received the SMS but failed to turn out to collect the Q number, This morning went there to collect, the number is already 700++

wuwuwuw.. i ask the sales person the same question, why so last minute? the answer is dont want buyer to Q overnight.
But if im a developer, Buyer Queuing overnight to buy my property. DOnt you think is a good marketing and respond too?


Feel weird too. Pity those pay the cheque earlier but failed to turn out yesterday.



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QUOTE(christopher_1437 @ Sep 19 2016, 06:22 PM)
Yeah lur so sad... yesterday received the SMS but failed to turn out to collect the Q number, This morning went there to collect, the number is already 700++

wuwuwuw.. i ask the sales person the same question, why so last minute? the answer is dont want buyer to Q overnight.
But if im a developer, Buyer Queuing overnight to buy my property. DOnt you think is a good marketing and respond too?
Feel weird too. Pity those pay the cheque earlier but failed to turn out yesterday.
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My opinion that it is a marketing strategy..to create the sense of "rush" for people to grab it asap.
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QUOTE(kochin @ Sep 19 2016, 11:35 AM)
battle of north vs south.

ioi also launched landed in sepang.
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No need battle...south win hand down.....
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Lots of land there..need another 20 developers to come in. Lol
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Yeah, thats what it looks like. But currently looks like south is developing at a faster rate maybe? What do you guys think?
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South is definitely more potential and grow faster developing compared with north. Southern Selangor has multiple developments in south and south east side like Sepang, Cyberjaya, Kajang, Bangi and Semenyih. Job opportunity is the main factors where there are many big corporates in Cyberjaya and factories in Bangi.

Whereas northern side is focusing only mainly in Rawang and slowly moving to north east Ijok. Job opportunity is not as many as southern part of Selangor. Ijok need to depend on highway like Guthrie, Latar and upcoming Dash to access to main towns. It has stand on its own advantage where Ijok is near to Rawang, Shah Alam, Sungai Buloh and Klang Meru.
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http://www.mydash.com.my/faqs/

"The construction of the project is expected to begin in 2016 and expected to open to the public in 2020." - Good news is if DASH can be ready before or after short while of Graham and Avenham VPs?

Bad News is unknown toll rate and 60 years of toll concessionaires period.
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Lots of land there..need another 20 developers to come in. Lol
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QUOTE(mascot_lim @ Sep 20 2016, 01:20 AM)
http://www.mydash.com.my/faqs/

"The construction of the project is expected to begin in 2016 and expected to open to the public in 2020." - Good news is if DASH can be ready before or after short while of Graham and Avenham VPs?

Bad News is unknown toll rate and 60 years of toll concessionaires period.
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They already started i believe. I saw in puncak perdana.
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QUOTE(kochin @ Sep 19 2016, 10:35 AM)
battle of north vs south.

ioi also launched landed in sepang.
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KLIA, PUTRAJAJA, SEMENYIH VS IJOK, RAWANG, KUNDANG

PUNCAK ALAM VS PANGLIMA

KUALA SELANGOR VS SEPANG

BANGI VS SG BUAYA


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Kns posted in the wrong tered tim. Ok wiki learning time for kv and gkl
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wakakaka.
i posted like 3-4 comments in propcafe.
none of it was published.

kakakaka.
banned kot.
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wakakaka.
i posted like 3-4 comments in propcafe.
none of it was published.

kakakaka.
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Wow Sifu they got some bad blood with u is it ? I'm sure must something not in favorable to their review 😁
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usual lor.
cari makan saja.
don't likey what i comment mah delete lor.
same like fb juga mah.

so next time must delete the word neutral.....
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comments on EG.

not exactly sure why did EW did what they done.
with 1800 units of landed, why a clubhouse was not featured? strange indeed.
if a 400 units condo can afford to maintain full fledge facilities, a 1800 units landed could have the same feature for more than half the price of maintenance in theory.
sigh. wasted opportunities.

pricing wise may seem affordable to city dwellers but the location here ain't exactly close to area with better job opportunities. in fact it's rather far from anywhere prominent with a good old min 15km or so.

and for 1st phase, it would seems odd that small sizes were on offer. EW indeed buck the trend of not offering bigger built up and subsequently playing the game of reduction in size, increase in price.

time shall see how this performs.



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QUOTE(kochin @ Sep 20 2016, 08:23 AM)
comments on EG.

not exactly sure why did EW did what they done.
with 1800 units of landed, why a clubhouse was not featured? strange indeed.
if a 400 units condo can afford to maintain full fledge facilities, a 1800 units landed could have the same feature for more than half the price of maintenance in theory.
sigh. wasted opportunities.

pricing wise may seem affordable to city dwellers but the location here ain't exactly close to area with better job opportunities. in fact it's rather far from anywhere prominent with a good old min 15km or so.

and for 1st phase, it would seems odd that small sizes were on offer. EW indeed buck the trend of not offering bigger built up and subsequently playing the game of reduction in size, increase in price.

time shall see how this performs.
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That's a very good view point. Shame on Propcafe for not having the balls to remain this comment (hope they read this KNN) 😂
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QUOTE(ikram_p @ Sep 20 2016, 06:49 AM)
One piece at a time. We dont want overly too crowded overthere. Like me, dont want that place to turn into another city.
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QUOTE(OperaGhost @ Sep 20 2016, 08:31 AM)
That's a very good view point. Shame on Propcafe for not having the balls to remain this comment (hope they read this KNN) 😂
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QUOTE(kochin @ Sep 20 2016, 08:23 AM)
comments on EG.

not exactly sure why did EW did what they done.
with 1800 units of landed, why a clubhouse was not featured? strange indeed.
if a 400 units condo can afford to maintain full fledge facilities, a 1800 units landed could have the same feature for more than half the price of maintenance in theory.
sigh. wasted opportunities.

pricing wise may seem affordable to city dwellers but the location here ain't exactly close to area with better job opportunities. in fact it's rather far from anywhere prominent with a good old min 15km or so.

and for 1st phase, it would seems odd that small sizes were on offer. EW indeed buck the trend of not offering bigger built up and subsequently playing the game of reduction in size, increase in price.

time shall see how this performs.
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Why these days club house is a must?
Who is willing to pay for club house maintenance?

I believe EW has done good research to suggest that buyers of houses in this price bracket are more conern about other issues than a club house.

All developers are releasing smaller houses in order to keep their sellimg price down....
Actually the price of eG is not cheap at all...given the location and land tenure...their 30' wide home is around 700k...
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Agreed. We need quality developers instead of quantities in developers.
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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Sep 20 2016, 09:08 AM)
Why these days club house is a must?
Who is willing to pay for club house maintenance?

I believe EW has done good research to suggest that buyers of houses in this price bracket are more conern about other issues than a club house.

All developers are releasing smaller houses in order to keep their sellimg price down....
Actually the price of eG is not cheap at all...given the location and land tenure...their 30' wide home is around 700k...
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If I am nt wrong, actually they have provision for the township clubhouse beside the lake, something like Trop Aman and SEH, but due to that area is still new and they need further study on the future demographic, then they only able to finalize. To some extend of realistic, this club house might not be so luxury one, but need to have self-sustainable clubhouse, therefore, time is needed for study.
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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Sep 20 2016, 09:08 AM)
Why these days club house is a must?
Who is willing to pay for club house maintenance?

I believe EW has done good research to suggest that buyers of houses in this price bracket are more conern about other issues than a club house.

All developers are releasing smaller houses in order to keep their sellimg price down....
Actually the price of eG is not cheap at all...given the location and land tenure...their 30' wide home is around 700k...
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Agree with you in term of pricing.
Not cheap actually.
Smaller size can slightly reduce the construction cost like materials
But in overall, won't affected much.
Clubhouse of course is all depend on personal preference.
Some senior citizen will consider this as additional burden especially those already retired from job.
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QUOTE(DS4 @ Sep 20 2016, 09:22 AM)
Agree with you in term of pricing.
Not cheap actually.
Smaller size can slightly reduce the construction cost like materials
But in overall, won't affected much.
Clubhouse of course is all depend on personal preference.
Some senior citizen will consider this as additional burden especially those already retired from job.
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For such location, this pricing definitely wont be cheap, as they need to factored in with infrastructure cost plus the landscaping cost too. Dont expect developers will give you cheap pricing terms while you expect for "WOW" landscaping.
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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Sep 20 2016, 09:08 AM)
Why these days club house is a must?
Who is willing to pay for club house maintenance?

I believe EW has done good research to suggest that buyers of houses in this price bracket are more conern about other issues than a club house.

All developers are releasing smaller houses in order to keep their sellimg price down....
Actually the price of eG is not cheap at all...given the location and land tenure...their 30' wide home is around 700k...
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its not actually cheap if its only a normal taman perumahan... but considering EW will also build a township... this might actually cause the added cost to your purchase price... I think for normal taman perumahan inside Puncak Alam can easily find a DSL bigger and cheaper than this... But they also would be mostly sold out... and no the WOW factor that everyone want from your whole residential area... very basic taman perumahan with fence and guard maybe... haha.... for the same size of EG... you can get a unit in Hillpark with cheaper price... better package... more freebies... and location wise... abang adik only... biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(DS4 @ Sep 20 2016, 09:22 AM)
Agree with you in term of pricing.
Not cheap actually.
Smaller size can slightly reduce the construction cost like materials
But in overall, won't affected much.
Clubhouse of course is all depend on personal preference.
Some senior citizen will consider this as additional burden especially those already retired from job.
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not cheap at all. agree.
hence they need something to stand out lor.
that's where the clubhouse may serve to entice them.

with 1800 units and a somewhat casual/modest clubhouse, doubt that the maintenance is going to cost much.

if a 400 condo unit is paying RM200 avg per unit at say RM80k per month.

vice versa for 1800 units, that's RM44.44 per unit.

now if EW can do an easy to maintain clubhouse and collection only requires <RM100 per household for both security patrolling and a clubhouse, would that be a value added feature?

take BU the club for example. that's one of the modest type and one of the cheaper clubhouses in the market.
simple, useful, befitting.

btw, the landed size plays a critical role ler. for landed, the length shorten can somehow provides opportunities to develop one extra row ler.... kekeke.



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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Sep 20 2016, 09:34 AM)
its not actually cheap if its only a normal taman perumahan... but considering EW will also build a township... this might actually cause the added cost to your purchase price... I think for normal taman perumahan inside Puncak Alam can easily find a DSL bigger and cheaper than this... But they also would be mostly sold out... and no the WOW factor that everyone want from your whole residential area... very basic taman perumahan with fence and guard maybe... haha.... for the same size of EG... you can get a unit in Hillpark with cheaper price... better package... more freebies... and location wise... abang adik only...  biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif
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fully agree.
for same price, pound to pound, and without product differentiation, i would rather vest in one of those bungalows nearby instead.

if EG does make it, the neighbouring properties may ride on their success.
if EG does not make it, at least, your holding cost is way lower than owners of EG, right?

well i tok kok only lah.

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EW will collect RM200 for Graham, RM250 for Avenham tentatively.
Translate to RM200k for precinct Graham and RM200k for precinct Avenham

200k can do a lot of things.

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regarding the road upgrade, I asked SA last Sunday.

SA told that in JKR planning, Jalan Bukit Cerakah/Jalan Meru Tambahan will be upgraded to 6 lanes. PMD will be upgrade to 6 lanes too. However, EW only upgrade the road beside Eco Grandeur only. The other parts (example the road from Bandar Coalfields traffic junction to the area before reaching Eco Grandeur) will be done by other developer/constructor.

Regarding the schedule when upgrade to 6 lanes? I don't think it will ready when phase 1 or phase 2 VP.



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QUOTE(propusers @ Sep 20 2016, 10:06 AM)
EW will collect RM200 for Graham, RM250 for Avenham tentatively.
Translate to RM200k for precinct Graham and RM200k for precinct Avenham

200k can do a lot of things.
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wow... thats is quite a lot... even for a landed and limited facilities... blink.gif blink.gif
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QUOTE(kochin @ Sep 20 2016, 09:42 AM)
fully agree.
for same price, pound to pound, and without product differentiation, i would rather vest in one of those bungalows nearby instead.

if EG does make it, the neighbouring properties may ride on their success.
if EG does not make it, at least, your holding cost is way lower than owners of EG, right?

well i tok kok only lah.

hahaha.
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hahaha... either way.... anyhow... they differentiate themselves by being strata titled landed township... at least one up better than Hillpark... and greater landscaping and township planning maybe...

but its true somehow that the neigbouring projects are trying to ride on their success... the same case happen to the small developers in semenyih... biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Sep 20 2016, 10:23 AM)
hahaha... either way.... anyhow... they differentiate themselves by being strata titled landed township... at least one up better than Hillpark... and greater landscaping and township planning maybe...

but its true somehow that the neigbouring projects are trying to ride on their success... the same case happen to the small developers in semenyih...  biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif
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ouch. this is strata titled?
then it's definitely more cons than pros of not having a clubhouse.

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QUOTE(kochin @ Sep 20 2016, 09:42 AM)
fully agree.
for same price, pound to pound, and without product differentiation, i would rather vest in one of those bungalows nearby instead.

if EG does make it, the neighbouring properties may ride on their success.
if EG does not make it, at least, your holding cost is way lower than owners of EG, right?

well i tok kok only lah.

hahaha.
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You are right.
For the bulk supply of 1800units, it's very hard to expect good appreciation as u may face a lot competitor for subsale.
This has not take into consideration of upcoming and remaining supply with Grandeur itself.
Rimbayu first phase is a very good example.
I quite like theidea of Bungalow u mentioned.
Is product differentiation strategy....

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QUOTE(kochin @ Sep 20 2016, 10:26 AM)
ouch. this is strata titled?
then it's definitely more cons than pros of not having a clubhouse.
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yeah... strata titled... like most of the EW township projects... for some... they like the consistency of living in a strata titled township maybe... biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
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Will they hang over to jmb
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QUOTE(kochin @ Sep 20 2016, 09:18 AM)
usual lor.
cari makan saja.
don't likey what i comment mah delete lor.
same like fb juga mah.

so next time must delete the word neutral.....
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Saw your comment in propcafe post wor...anyway..i kpc only.
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QUOTE(propusers @ Sep 20 2016, 11:06 AM)
EW will collect RM200 for Graham, RM250 for Avenham tentatively.
Translate to RM200k for precinct Graham and RM200k for precinct Avenham

200k can do a lot of things.
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Many ppls wan security only especially based on the demographic there. Simple and safe n cheap.200k is more than enough...can hire 8 guards per shift about 50k.
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QUOTE(propertybbb @ Sep 20 2016, 01:33 PM)
Saw your comment in propcafe post wor...anyway..i kpc only.
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including some quite old post. kekeke.
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QUOTE(propusers @ Sep 20 2016, 10:06 AM)
EW will collect RM200 for Graham, RM250 for Avenham tentatively.
Translate to RM200k for precinct Graham and RM200k for precinct Avenham

200k can do a lot of things.
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200k sure can do a lot of things...
More than enough...
Just hope no songlap-ing...
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QUOTE(propertybbb @ Sep 20 2016, 01:39 PM)
Many ppls wan security only especially based on the demographic there. Simple and safe n cheap.200k is more than enough...can hire 8 guards per shift about 50k.
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8 guards per shift.....225 houses per guard.........

how effective is that???????
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Pardon me, but what is JMB?
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Too early to answer
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lake edge?
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Talking about strata title, and gateless environment. How do you reckon people with pets gonna manage in that environment? I cannot imagine needing to scoop other people's pet's 'submarine' on my lawn.

I am aware for strata title, that usual rule is not pets policy. But that doesn't stop people from still keeping one in my current condo.
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QUOTE(amanitium @ Sep 20 2016, 04:40 PM)
Talking about strata title, and gateless environment. How do you reckon people with pets gonna manage in that environment? I cannot imagine needing to scoop other people's pet's 'submarine' on my lawn.

I am aware for strata title, that usual rule is not pets policy. But that doesn't stop people from still keeping one in my current condo.
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Based on SMA it doesn't seem to be an option and shall be handed over to JMB/MC.

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What do you mean by gateless environment?  hmm.gif
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What it meant is no front gate and concern about neighnours' pets poo around at its compound.
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yeah. after i posted here then only all my comments surfaced.
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What it meant is no front gate and concern about neighnours' pets poo around at its compound.
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Oh okay. Just to clarify the plan, no gates can be fixed by the owners then? Is the plan truly an open concept?? I doubt it...
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QUOTE(lustremoon @ Sep 20 2016, 05:04 PM)
Oh okay. Just to clarify the plan, no gates can be fixed by the owners then?  Is the plan truly an open concept?? I doubt it...
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if you really have a visit at those SPS project previously... u will see its totally gateless... and no one really fixed a gate at their house... maybe a grill door on your main door thats possible la... since strata title would required consistency from every house to preserve the original state of the township...
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Sep 20 2016, 05:06 PM)
if you really have a visit at those SPS project previously... u will see its totally gateless... and no one really fixed a gate at their house... maybe a grill door on your main door thats possible la... since strata title would required consistency from every house to preserve the original state of the township...
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I suppose those who want gates would probably get approval from the JMB or management? So far, to be honest I have never seen a truly 'convenient' and 'comfortable' 'gateless' environment. And as the other forumer pointed out, pets would be an issue...especially considering landed properties where generally owners do have pets.. hmm.gif
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QUOTE(lustremoon @ Sep 20 2016, 05:04 PM)
Oh okay. Just to clarify the plan, no gates can be fixed by the owners then?  Is the plan truly an open concept?? I doubt it...
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Nope. The owners shall not install the gate as it affect the consistency / uniformity of the facade of the houses - unless it's approved by JMB/MC (during the AGM I supposed or EGM).

I personally prefer open concept as it makes the car porch/ front part of the house looks more spacious.

Almost forgot to add on - Avenham is gateless while Graham comes with gate.

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QUOTE(Jasoncat @ Sep 20 2016, 05:25 PM)
Nope.  The owners shall not install the gate as it affect the consistency / uniformity of the facade of the houses - unless it's approved by JMB/MC (during the AGM I supposed or EGM).

I personally prefer open concept as it makes the car porch/ front part of the house looks more spacious.

Almost forgot to add on - Avenham is gateless while Graham comes with gate.
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No wonder....for a moment I was recalling what the SA mentioned to me. Since I was checking out Graham, I remember him saying the house comes with gate although in the pictures they don't show it as they want to emphasis on the structure and facade....
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Based on SMA it doesn't seem to be an option and shall be handed over to JMB/MC.
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Any JMB/MC within Ijok area with track record for consideration?
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THE BRIGHT SIDE OF ECO GRANDEUR – GRAHAM GARDENS BY ABE NAZZ DAIMYO ECOPARK
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🔘 Pada 14 September Abe tulis keburukan Eco Grandeur Graham Gardens. Hari ni Abe siapkan bahagian kedua, kelebihannya pula.

🔘 Maaflah kalau rebiu ni caca merba sedikit. Yang penting isinya itu.
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#Price

🔘 Mana lagi nak dapat proper gated and guarded English Theme landed terrace kat GKL di bawah 500K? Nett price for bumi for the cheapest 20 x 70 pun 420K.

🔘 Type C yang adik Abe nak beli ni pun nett price 450K. Ada 4 bilik.

🔘 Granted, Hillpark Meranti build up besar tapi ianya bukan gated and guarded. Harga nett jauh lagi mahal.

🔘 Alam Sutera 20 x 70 jual 2014 pun dah 570K harga SPA. EG ni siap 2019 end!

🔘 Ini first produk EW bawah 500K. Yang tempat lain main 700K dah boss!

🔘 Ini first phase. Next phase kompem naik rege. Inilah mainan undercons yang Abe gemar.

🔘 Banyak room for capital appreciation.
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#TownshipConcept

🔘 Bila beli produk EcoWorld, Abe bukan hanya beli taman perumahan, Abe juga dapat complete township.

🔘 Siapa lagi kat Puncak Alam boleh offer gated and guarded, ada beautiful bridge, great guardhouse, dan artistic landscaping?

🔘 Orang lain bagi janji bulan dan bintang, EcoWorld tak janji kosong. Dia janji dia akan buat. Geng2 EW ni pun bukan noobs. Tokey dia yang bina great township macam Setia Alam, Setia EcoPark, Setia EcoHills, dan lain2.

🔘 Kalau korang nak tau camne township planning diaorang, lawatilah Eco Majestic, Eco Sanctuary, Eco Botanic kat Johor. Korang mesti ternganga punya. Tobat!

🔘 EcoWorld ni siap ada Chief Landscaping Engineer. KPI dia mesti ganti pokok mati dalam masa 2 hari. Pokok2 yang ditanam bukan cap ayam. Rege mahal gila. Ada seni.

🔘 Sekarang memanglah korang Nampak tanah gersang je kat situ….tapi, bila dah naik landscaping esok2…baru korang kata…damn…apesal aku tak angkut awal2?
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#Aksesabiliti

🔘 Jalan Meru Tambahan will be upgraded till T-Junction Bandar Seri Coalfield. This means probably the bridge will be upgraded also. If EW can build the butterfly bridge, building the short bridge upon sungai Buloh is not impossible.

🔘 Tadi Abe test drive Jalan tu masuk Latar ke KLCC. Lebih kurang dari Setia Alam ke KLCC. Now choking point dia ialah di Jalan Meru Tambahan. Mau 20 minit melekat makan jem kat situ.

🔘 Bila dah siap jalan upgraded as requested by Majlis Daerah Kuala Selangor…..pergh…ada mau jimat 10 minit senang nak ke Latar.

🔘 Latar jalan clear. Nak ke tol Jalan Duta pun clear. Lepas Jalan Duta biasalah…semua orang terpaksa tempuh.

🔘 DASH dah start bergerak. Nanti DASH dah siap….senanglah nak ke PJ Utara (Read: IKEA, Bandar Utama, Damansara Perdana, Penchala Link.)

🔘 Memanglah jalan Persiaran Mokhtar Dahari (PMD) tu jem. Tapi ada sesetengah part ianya 2 lanes. Ada satu Lane. Kalau JKR boleh besarkan jalan satu lorong tu, lega kepala otak.

🔘 PMD from Dash till Jalan Batu 3 will be upgraded. Flyover will be built by JKR. Ini akan eliminate choke point paling besar kat PMD.

🔘 Di Utara Setia Alam dah start nak bina jalan ke PMD. Gunalah Google Map. Maybe tak lalu kat Kampung Budiman lagi. Abe bajet ia akan bersambung belakang Alam Budiman. Senanglah nak ke NKVE lepas ni melalui hiway Setia Alam.

🔘 Jalan Meru sedang diperbesarkan. Memudahkan manager2 kilang yang kerja kat Meru kerja. Meru banyak kilang.

🔘 Kilang kat Alam Perdana pun tengah naik.
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#GatedAndGuarded

🔘 Kawasan ni terkenal dengan kes pecah rumah. Baru2 ni kat Hillpark ada 10 rumah kena pecah masuk. So bila anda ada gated and guarded, pastu setiap rumah ada alarm pulak, anda rasa orang yang duduk sekitar Puncak Alam tak mahu ke upgrade ke situ esok?

🔘 Ye kena bayar 200 rm. Tapi demi nak tidur tenang malam2, apa mendelah 200 RM tu. Duit tu untuk jaga landscaping juga. Bukannya MDKS yang jaga landscaping.

🔘 Bila selamat, kita eliminate scenario wait and see. You see orang beli landed dia amatlah takut nak jadi orang pertama kat kawasan tu. Takut malam2 kena rogol.
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🔘 Kat sini je offer English Township. Malaysian suka English style sampai berlambak kedai jual English Style windchairlah…wallpaperlah…etc…ini the whole township macam kat England!

🔘 USP - english style...full of parks....underground longkang and cables...wide parking....behind house got large space....got this pintu gerbang that evokes pride....ada dragonfly bridge....mana developer lain berani nak buat?

🔘 Some people they have pride and want the address. EG sekarang is the best address kat Puncak Alam.

🔘 Lagipun ianya taklah jauh kedalam macam Shah Alam 2.

🔘 First impression counts! Bila tetamu datang, mereka mesti kata, wah….cantik gila kawasan ni. Nama pun Glam….perghh

🔘 Macam nilah…kat Setia EcoPark ada dan Setia Alam ada pesaing macam Aman Perdana dan Bandar Baru Bukit Raja. Tapi sebab address cun, geng2 tu jual juga rumah mereka dan pindah ke address bagus. I told you, address counts.
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#LandscapingAndSuchs

🔘 Landscaping terbaik kat Puncak Alam. World class.

🔘 Sesuai untuk geng2 pencen (yang ada duit epf berkepok) untuk jogging dan menikmati hari2 tua.

🔘 Anda pergilah jiran2 EG, ada yang landscaping mantap macam Eco Botanic tak?

🔘 EG punya longkang dan kabel letrik underground. Nampak neat dan allow more room to park the car. Takdelah jalan jadi sempit bila orang double park

🔘 Belakang rumah ada 15 kaki. Tu nak dekat 3 bijik katil tidur tu!! Siap ada plant box yang akan dijaga oleh JMB/Developer.

🔘 Cuba pergi kat Hillpark….rapat gila alley belakang…alley2 belakang nilah yang orang takut bila orang nak pecah masuk. Pastu kalau jiran memasak…boleh Nampak dia memasak sebab dekat gila. EG got extra privacy.

🔘 Ada balcony kat belakang. Sesuai untuk isap rokok dan lari tenangkan diri bila gaduh ngan bini.

🔘 Bukan semua orang akan extend belakang rumah. I did not do it for my house kat Setia Alam sebab my aim is to move to my semi d at Setia EcoPark. Statistik menunjukkan orang Malaysia upgrade rumah setiap 7 tahun.
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#BrandOfTheDeveloper

🔘 Ini top developer ni.

🔘 Always striving on giving more value to buyer. Their motto, they will give value to you so you can get good return on your investment.

🔘 Ini bukan pemaju yang nak jual rumah dapat duit semata2!
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#IsuBanjir

🔘 MDKS telah menetapkan yang EW harus upgrade system perparitan kat Jalan Meru Tambahan (Jalan Bukit Cherakah). Ini untuk mengelakkan longkang tersumbat yang akan menyebabkan banjir teruk macam tahun lepas.
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#PotentialFutureBuyers

🔘 Don't only think those who want to buy subsale EG esok2 hanya kerja kat KLCC. Some works at Kwasa (new booming area), Ara damansara, Sungai buloh Industrial area, Alam Perdana Industrial Area, Meru industrial area, Subang airport, Kg Melayu Subang.

🔘 Once dash is completed, it will open up the portal or floodgate for this area

🔘 Sebenarnya dengan Latar, orang kerja kat Rawang, Gombak, dan Selayang pun boleh tinggal kat EG.
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#IsuLeasehold

🔘 Ye. Melayu sepatutnya jual subsale kat Melayu sahaja. Tapi kat Puncak Alam dan sekitar pun sekarang ada 70K orang.

🔘 Apa probability kita nak Tarik orang Puncak Alam upgrade rumah mereka sekarang ke EG? Ada possibility kan?

🔘 Tu belum kira Tarik orang luar Puncak Alam.

🔘 Melayu memanglah as a whole miskin. Tapi ada Melayu yang kaya. Kita nak Tarik Melayu yang berduit ni. Melayu yang jual insurans, REN, Unit Trust, jual Pamoga, bisnes online, manager2 besar, geng2 oil and gas. Kita nak Tarik less than 1K orang je masa subsale nanti. Kita nak Tarik orang yang nak duduk English Township.

🔘 Kita nak tarik Melayu yang nak upgrade rumah. Yang dah umur 35 tahun ke atas. Gaji dah besar. Some malay yang nak upgrade rumah from rumah sewa they may have epf account 2 for both wife and hubby. 100K is not impossible for mid class

🔘 For those yang nak upgrade rumah...they can sell their current house and get the money to buy subsale from EG undercons investors.

🔘 A lot of Malay works for gomen, if hubby and wife both works for gomen, not impossible to get 100% loan for 650K.

🔘 Orang Melayu ni dia berkira sikit kalau nak keluar 600K untuk kondo. Tapi kalau 600K in 2020 for landed house, ramai yang sanggup keluar duit. Mereka mungkin dapat 100K by selling or refinancing current house.

🔘 Some people cam adik Abe dan bini dia, mereka tak nak duit EPF2 diaorang tidur at 6%. Baik mereka park kat EG, and aim to sell Type C Graham Garden 545K in 2020, atau 607K in 2021, or 653K in 2022. Kalau mereka jual pada harga ni, ini bersamaan mereka melabur wang mereka pada kadar 25% setahun atas setiap ringgit yang mereka belanjakan masa mereka hold.

🔘 Abe hanya target kenaikan harga dari harga SPA hanya 12%% pada 2020, 24% pada 2021, dan 34% pada 2022. For good undercons, this is possible.

🔘 Modal mereka ialah 64K jika jual 2020, 102K jika jual 2021, atau 117K jika jual 2022.

🔘 Abe bajet mereka takde penyewa selama 6 bulan selepas rumah siap. Sewa pun target 1200 je sebulan kalau mereka decide not to sell. Masa tahun 2020 ke atas, naiklah sewa kawasan tu. Inikan tempat yang posh dan secured?

🔘 Some already buy for own stay. So kita bukan nak compete banyak2 sangat.

🔘 Some residents in puncak alam or even bandar saujana utama and BSC might want to relocate to EG due to prestige.

🔘 Sooner or later The hospital will come. Even if it does not completed by 2022...at least there will be construction

🔘 In 2020...650K is cheap for landed. You knowlah time value of money punya concept. Inflasi. Economy naik, oil and gas market recover, dan lain2.

🔘 Mungkin in 2022, houses in Denai alam, Elmina, Setia Alam, Ara Damansara, Bukit Jelutong will reach 800K to 1M. Jadi 650K in EG is cheap zaman tu.

🔘 Nowadays Petronas fresh grad starting salary pun 4.5K. If couple 9K. Gaji bersih 7K++. Cuba imagine gaji mereka tahun 2022? Mesti lebih 10K punya laki bini. Geng2 oil gas memang masyukk.

🔘 Masa tu 650K for landed is the only option. One day only rich people own landed properties
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#IsuOversupply

🔘 we have to compare apple to apple. EG ni liga teratas.

🔘 Bandar Saujana Utama takleh tandingi prestij EG.

🔘 LBS Alam Perdana mana mungkin tandingi EG

🔘 Hillpark okaylah tapi still takleh tandingi. Heck, salesman Hillpark pun guna nama EG as sales pitch. Baik beli Eg kan?

🔘 Bandar Seri Coalfield dia jauh sikit. Terasing dari orang lain. Ia ialah freehold tapi still takleh challenge EG.

🔘 EG memang cam gorilla ditengah2 orang utan….sekali datang lari bertempiaran orang lain.

🔘 Why EG launch 2K units? because the want to have the scale of production. Sekarang dia tak launch full 2K units. Dia launch sebahagian je dulu. Tu pun dah hampir 800 orang kompem beli as of today.

🔘 Somebody need to pay for the cost of landscaping. Lagi banyak orang, lagi banyak kutipan maintenance fee dan sinking fund. Terjamin kualiti.
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#Commercial

🔘 Sebab tulah EcoWorld lancer banyak2 unit. Dia nak cepat2 build the mass to support commercial activities. Esok2 ada plan nak buat Eco Grandeur City ala2 Setia City.

🔘 EcoWorld pun ada tanah komersial besar di utara EG. They are committed to live up the area. Sekarang memang tak nampaklah, tapi bila dah boom esok2, baru terhegeh2 nak masuk.

🔘 Kat Hillpark Supermarket Urban Fresh dah beli tanah. Hillpark tengah buat rumah kedai nama Avenue. Adalah support esok2 bila EG siap.

🔘 EG allocates kalau tak silap 50% units for bumi, and 50% non bumi. Geng2 cina akan hidupkan kawasan komersial. Mereka tak boleh hidup tanpa bank (sebab mereka berniaga), kedai makan, hardware, dan lain2.

🔘 EcoWorld ada banyak fans cina. Tengoklah masa launching number queue Ahad lepas…ada mau 90% orang cina je beli. Nampak tak? Kawasan ini akan hidup suatu hari nanti.
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#Conclusion

🔘 Hari tu Abe post cons kat Page FB Planet Jaeger pada 14 September.

🔘 Ya setiap projek ada kelemahan. Tapi Abe dah buat detail analysis dan site study yang comprehensive.

🔘 Tapi kalau anda jenis nak cari positive cashflow, EG is not for you.

🔘 Kalau anda takde modal besar macam Abe terangkan tadi, EG is not for you.

🔘 The Pros is more than Cons. Sebab itulah Abe book EG untuk adik Abe.

🔘 Korang jangan mandai ikut Abe. Abe dan group adik2 Abe Bani Zain Group ada rizab yang kukuh. Kalau korang main rogol, korang akan tersontot. Abe dah ada cashflow plan, rizab dan exit strategy.

🔘 Like I always said, main undercons landed ialah Liga Premier. Bukan Liga biasa2.

🔘 Tapi kalau korang beli untuk duduk, EG would be just nice. Trust me. I bought two products yang dibina boss EcoWorld Tan Sri Liew before, Setia Alam dan Setia Ecopark. The Township is just superb. Kalau nak betul2 matang, hold 7 years from date of launching.

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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Sep 20 2016, 02:48 PM)
8 guards per shift.....225 houses per guard.........

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Reply to "From fb page : Planet Jaeger"

This guy is too optimistic in certain extend. People from puncak alam, saujana utama and BSC might want to relocate to EG because of prestige. This is very subjective view and personal opinion. Under strate title like EG owner cannot renovate exterior or must be agreed and approved by JMB only then can do renovate.

Without hillpark, saujana utama, Shah Alam 2 and bandar seri coalfields, how confident are you EW will come into puncak alam.

He said he done detail analysis and comprehensive site study, this is simply syiok sendiri review with heavy bias.
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He is either flipper or short term investor lah..

Buy for ownstay needs to write long essay meh

Now EW needs to add another cap to their feather lioa...
Managed to create an english township....in ijok....

U want prestige...it must come w limited edition....tis one consider mass market already....

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QUOTE(autodriver @ Sep 20 2016, 11:01 PM)
Reply to "From fb page : Planet Jaeger"

This guy is too optimistic in certain extend. People from puncak alam, saujana utama and BSC might want to relocate to EG because of prestige. This is very subjective view and personal opinion. Under strate title like EG owner cannot renovate exterior or must be agreed and approved by JMB only then can do renovate.

Without hillpark, saujana utama, Shah Alam 2 and bandar seri coalfields, how confident are you EW will come into puncak alam.

He said he done detail analysis and comprehensive site study, this is simply syiok sendiri review with heavy bias.
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well said bro ..
that fb comment really syok sendiri only.
EG is good with G&G and great landscape in puncak alam but that not a really pull factor for existing residents over there.
bcoz existing residents bought the house much more cheaper long time ago & some got similar built up or some even bigger than EG.

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QUOTE(autodriver @ Sep 20 2016, 11:01 PM)
Reply to "From fb page : Planet Jaeger"

This guy is too optimistic in certain extend. People from puncak alam, saujana utama and BSC might want to relocate to EG because of prestige. This is very subjective view and personal opinion. Under strate title like EG owner cannot renovate exterior or must be agreed and approved by JMB only then can do renovate.

Without hillpark, saujana utama, Shah Alam 2 and bandar seri coalfields, how confident are you EW will come into puncak alam.

He said he done detail analysis and comprehensive site study, this is simply syiok sendiri review with heavy bias.
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totally agree with you bro... well i do like the township planning of EG by EW itself... but he praise EG like its god... not every owner have the same preference... i do admit that Hillpark township planning not really that good... but to say EG come in and everything surrounding them is a shit... thats joker betul... lol...
frankly speaking... worldwide DSL inside puncak alam have better design on their hse and way spacious for that price... of course no such nice township planning... but will they care... all they wan is a larger house anyway... fence and guard can be done after the occupancy rate increased... and its true that he didn't mentioned... bcuz of the sales of the existing projects in puncak alam... oni EG dare to come in... if they see the surrounding projects not selling well... would they dare to come in? haha...
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QUOTE(autodriver @ Sep 20 2016, 11:01 PM)
Reply to "From fb page : Planet Jaeger"

This guy is too optimistic in certain extend. People from puncak alam, saujana utama and BSC might want to relocate to EG because of prestige. This is very subjective view and personal opinion. Under strate title like EG owner cannot renovate exterior or must be agreed and approved by JMB only then can do renovate.

Without hillpark, saujana utama, Shah Alam 2 and bandar seri coalfields, how confident are you EW will come into puncak alam.

He said he done detail analysis and comprehensive site study, this is simply syiok sendiri review with heavy bias.
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Yes, the review despite having some valid points was generally filled with his opinions. The funniest one was about how neighbouring townships will move to EG simply because of the brand unsure.gif
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QUOTE(christopher_1437 @ Sep 19 2016, 06:22 PM)
Yeah lur so sad... yesterday received the SMS but failed to turn out to collect the Q number, This morning went there to collect, the number is already 700++

wuwuwuw.. i ask the sales person the same question, why so last minute? the answer is dont want buyer to Q overnight.
But if im a developer, Buyer Queuing overnight to buy my property. DOnt you think is a good marketing and respond too?
Feel weird too. Pity those pay the cheque earlier but failed to turn out yesterday.
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total 772 units available this Sunday (assume EPF staff cannot select public units)

400++ queue number only... cannot sold all this Sunday liao...

EW need more special group (can extend to SA relative or EPF staff papamama) to book earlier then can sold all

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to be fair to the FB page, they already points out the negative of EG before this
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to be fair to the FB page, they already points out the negative of EG before this
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yeah... he already mentioned pro more than cons... but some of the cons he mentioned also very personal... lolz.. pros as well... although he did mentioned wad realistic thing though... even its affordable.. its still not easy for first house buyer to bear it own their own... ahaha...
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how was th Q on last 19?
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Sep 21 2016, 02:00 PM)
yeah... he already mentioned pro more than cons... but some of the cons he mentioned also very personal... lolz.. pros as well... although he did mentioned wad realistic thing though... even its affordable.. its still not easy for first house buyer to bear it own their own... ahaha...
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how was th Q on last 19?
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QUOTE(azhar1975 @ Sep 21 2016, 01:48 PM)
to be fair to the FB page, they already points out the negative of EG before this
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Personally i am quite pity that guy.....write cons kena hentam, write pro kena hentam juga.....i think better keep quiet......haha......
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for him to refer in the future... lol..... when he wanna find back this thread...
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SgYF_niaDiU

Hopefully EW's future EBP series at EG, Eco Business park V will be even better than this one at Iskandar.......
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QUOTE(bob @ Sep 21 2016, 09:06 AM)
well said bro ..
that fb comment really syok sendiri only.
EG is good with G&G and great landscape in puncak alam but that not a really pull factor for existing residents over there.
bcoz existing residents bought the house much more cheaper long time ago & some got similar built up or some even bigger than EG.
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Actually EW try to market itself as a super high class luxury developer...

But... have they got any VP projects yet? How is the end result? Cause all those nice brochures, pretty showroom, great photoshop skills doesnt mean you can live in it...

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