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post Sep 5 2016, 12:34 PM

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QUOTE(samkps @ Sep 5 2016, 12:04 PM)
None of them is direct link I suppose? I feel a little surprise as it doesn't see like EW style..  hmm.gif
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so far no direct link to highway .. still need to use normal route to go to highway
need to upgarde jalan PMD & jalan meru tambahan (to seri coalfield) for a better access
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post Sep 5 2016, 06:30 PM

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QUOTE(mascot_lim @ Sep 5 2016, 06:22 PM)
I am also hope that DASH and GUTHERIE will directly connected to EG, then we all hoseh liao....just pray hard....
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guthrie maybe ..
but Dash not at all .. too far
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post Sep 7 2016, 05:46 PM

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QUOTE(autodriver @ Sep 6 2016, 09:50 PM)
I do think so. Dash first entrance is about 10km away from puncak alam and it takes lots of time during peak hour. From the route plan of DASH, there should be a interchange access to Guthrie. So it make more sense if EG has a direct access to Guthrie to enter into DASH. Then we don't need to use PMD to puncak perdana to enter into DASH. Btw it is same highway contraction company, Prolintas for both Guthrie and DASH. They should have think off the puncak alam residents too to use their highway to boost income since it considered one of the biggest townships development in west side of selangor.
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Thats indirect to Dash.. So its possible la.
Yes there is an entrance between gutrie n dash nearby elmina area
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post Sep 8 2016, 09:06 AM

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QUOTE(jack bauer @ Sep 7 2016, 08:18 PM)
from the masterplan layout map, I dont think there will be direct road connection to DASH, it is too far. DASH starts at Seksyen U10 (Puncak Perdana) traffic ligth junction/Cahaya SPK in the map, which is 20KM from Puncak Alam junction, this is very far.

What i heard and read is do not considered to use PMD (or Jalan Batu Arang - even EW also wrongly named this road  doh.gif ) as daily weekdays commute route, unless the destination is just around the PMD exit. On normal shiny good day, travel time from the U10 trafficlite is 30mins, yes 30mins from the dotted dash line of DASH to Sunway Kayangan covering distance of 3.5km. On rainy day, accident day, tampal lubang construction day... expect 50 to 60mins. On return trip (pulang ke sarang)...after 630pm, the crawl will start at Sunway kayangan, all the way 25km to Puncak Alam...phewww...
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Not true la.
Traffic is not that bad in normal condition.
Only when raining.. Traffic much slower but other place also face the same situation.
Distance between pck alam traffic lite to sunway kayangan is 15km. & crawling time after 6pm is from junction nearby sunway kayangan to pck Perdana only.
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post Sep 9 2016, 10:23 AM

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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Sep 9 2016, 09:26 AM)
yeah.... that time when i test the route from Hillpark to Damansara... Its impossible to use PMD at all... i use the exit from Saujana Utama then Guthrie then towards LDP... the PMD i can visibly seeing the jam just after the traffic light of Saujana Utama there or the Hillpark Grand Entrance there....
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u mean using saujana utama route to jln kuala selangor to enter guthrie??
but on weekdays, its super bad traffic from inside SU to main road ... PMD is much better eventhough u can see a long traffic at the junction nearby sunway kayangan.


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post Sep 10 2016, 11:05 AM

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QUOTE(superb1123 @ Sep 9 2016, 10:18 PM)
Hi, sorry to ask, I am interested in this project. Currently staying in Kepong area. Working in PJ, how long it takes to get to PJ area from there ya?
And mind to share how much the toll charges?

And also, stupid to ask if buying this under construction property, after paid downpayment, how much I need to pay for the progressive?

Don't know how to calculate that actually...
Hope can get some advice from here.

Thanks guys.
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if u get out at 6.30am then within 1 hr can reach pj hilton or amcorp mall
toll if want cheaper than can use PMD to enter nkve then exit subang ... only rm1.
for under construction, need to pay interest for progress payment .. can be from fless than hundred until rm1k++
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QUOTE(prince_mk @ Sep 14 2016, 08:21 PM)
If I coming from Aman Putri (left side) Sungai Buloh, how long should I reach this project? fyi, I m working in KL but the design and price is very attractive. Hope some sifu can advise me.
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u need go further up for another 12km.
aman putri just nearby guthrie hway ... but if from EG need to take Latar or jalan kuala sgor to enter guhtrie
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post Sep 15 2016, 09:58 AM

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QUOTE(brensek @ Sep 14 2016, 11:01 PM)
Can search in fb page: Planet Jaeger

KENAPA ECO GRANDEUR TIDAK BOLEH DISAMAKAN DENGAN SETIA ALAM
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Hari ni Abe nak bagi cons dulu. Esok2 Abe bagi pro pulak.  Takkan Abe senantiasa nak cakap benda2 yang manis sahaja kan?
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#LatarBelakangProjek

🔘 Graham Gardens ialah satu daripada dua taman yang akan dilancarkan di Eco Grandeur

🔘 Eco Grandeur terletak di Persimpangan Jalan Bukit Cerakah dan Persiaran Mokhtar Dahari di Puncak Alam.

🔘 Peminat hartanah sering mengatakan Eco Grandeur ini ialah The Next Setia Alam.

🔘 Bagi Abe jawapannya tidak! 

🔘 Ini hanyalah ilusi atau mirage. Buang nama Ecoworld dan Eco Grandeur. Apa yang tinggal? Sebuah kawasan rumah terbengkalai di tengah2 tanah yang luas di Puncak Alam.
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#AksesabilitiYangMencabar

🔘 Aksesabiliti - 5 km ke Latar. Terpaksa melalui satu jambatan kecil di Sungai berdekatan Desa Coalfield.

🔘 Pada hari biasa pun, terasa lama nak sampai ke Latar Hiway apatah lagi waktu pergi bekerja.

🔘 Jika hendak ke DASH hiway, jaraknya sangat jauh. Persiaran Mokhtar Dahari (PMD) sangat jauh apatah lagi dari 630 pagi ke 9 pagi. Kalau DASH tidak siap pada jangkamasa yang ditetapkan, parah anda nanti.

🔘 Jarak ke West Coast Hiway agak jauh. Tidak patut digunakan sebagai sales pitch.

🔘 Jalan Meru walaupun sedang dibesarkan tapi banyak choking point. Anda akan tersekat didalam jam untuk ke Klang.

🔘 Jalan Pintas ke Utara Setia Alam. Anda akan melalui kawasan yang sempit di Kampung Budiman. Jarak ke Kampung Budiman juga agak jauh (8 km).  Anda juga dinasihatkan tidak memandu terlalu laju disitu untuk menghormati penduduk kampung.

🔘 Jalan pintas ke Guthrie. Terpaksa melalui Bandar Saujana Utama. Jalan kecil dan traffic teruk.

🔘 Biasanya EcoWorld akan membina jalan khas ke hiway bagi projeknya. Tapi ini agak mustahil bagi Eco Granduer kerana jaraknya sangat jauh.
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#KekuranganPeluangKerjaDiIndustriDanPusatKomersil

🔘 Tiada industri gagah dan pejabat kerja gah di Puncak Alam. Kawasan ini kurang peluang pekerjaan.

🔘 Walaupun Setia Alam 12 tahun dahulu ladang kelapa sawit, lokasinya terletak di antara Bandar Baru Klang dan Bandaraya Shah Alam. Industri dan peluang pekerjaan banyak di dua kawasan ini. Peluang untuk menyewakan rumah tinggi.

🔘 Faktor UiTM. Uitm kini mempunyai VC baru. VC lama mempunyai aspirasi untuk menjadikan Uitm Puncak Alam sebagai kampus utama. Akhir-akhir ini rancangan ini bergerak perlahan.

🔘 Faktor Hospital Uitm: Design hospital telah pun siap.  Kini dalam process tendering dan akan mengambil masa 27 bulan untuk siap.  Soalannya bilakah kerajaan akan bagi dana?  Sempatkan Hospital itu siap bila Graham dah dapat kunci?

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#IsuLeasehold

🔘 Populasi antara kaum disini tidak seimbang. Di sini majoriti Melayu. Unlike Setia Alam, majoritinya Cina.

🔘 EG ini leasehold dengan sekatan. Bumi sukar jual pada non bumi. Market tersekat. Di Setia Alam, hartanahnya ialah Freehold tanpa sekatan. Market subsale bagi bumi disitu amatlah luas sekali.

🔘 Leasehold tenure EG sekarang ialah 85 tahun. Bila dah masuk tempoh subsale, hanya tinggal 81 tahun sahaja. Walaupun masih selamat (atas 60 tahun), masih banyak orang yang mempunyai stigma tentang ini.

🔘 Pesaing EG, Bandar Seri Coalfield yang Freehold dan paling hampir dengan LATAR highway pun masih mengalami kesukaran untuk menghabiskan stok undercons.
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#IsuLambakanTeres

🔘 Saingan yang sengit.  Di Setia Alam dahulu. Hanya ada Aman Perdana, Bukit Bandaraya, Seksyen 7 Shah Alam, dan Bandar Bukit Raja sebagai pesaing.

🔘 Puncak Alam ini mempunyai tanah yang tidak terkira luasnya. Sekarang sudah ada pesaing dari Bandar Saujana Utama by Glomac, Hillpark by MKH, IJM, Alam Perdana by LBS, Bandar Seri Coalfield by KLK. Who knows siapa lagi akan bertapak di Puncak Alam. Itu belum kira orang Melayu yang beli tanah2 lot sekitar Bukit Cerakah!

🔘 Pemaju biasanya akan melancarkan 100 hingga 300 unit teres. Tapi EG ini ada hampir 2000 units! Digestion period pasti panjang.

🔘 Di Setia Alam, pemaju SP Setia mengamalkan different design dan facade setiap tiga ke empat row of terraces.  EG ini walaupun layout dalaman berbeza tapi design hampir2 sama dari luar!

🔘 No definite development plan seperti masterplan Setia Alam. Next phase could b link houses too.

🔘 Di Utara, pemaju besar menumpukan perhatian di Kundang.
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#IsuLandedStrataUntukTeres

🔘 Adakah Joint Management Body akan membenarkan pemilik menyewakan kepada students Uitm?

🔘 Landed Strata. Wajib bayar 200 rm maintenance fee sebulan. Itu bersamaan dengan loan 42K. Setia Alam teresnya hanya bayar guard fee 40 rm sebulan. Tu pun tak wajib.

🔘 EG tertakluk bawah DMC. Tak boleh extend dan renovate bahagian luar. Tak boleh cat lain tanpa persetujuan JMB.

🔘 Melayu suka renovate dapur basah dan reno luar. Ini masalah paling besar sedangkan rumah projek pesaing lain boleh diubah suai.

🔘 Build up kecil. Saiz paling murah datang dengan tiga bilik. Melayu yang nak upgrade dari hi rise 3 bilik biasanya ada anak ramai. Anak lelaki dan perempuan tak boleh tidur sebilik. Kalau ada orang gaji dan mertua pasti mengundang masalah.
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#AncamanBanjirDanKualitiTanah

🔘 Masalah banjir. Setia Alam tiada masalah banjir. Sini ada masalah banjir akibat longkang tersumbat. Itu belum kira pembangunan masa depan lagi. Apa jaminan longkang tidak akan tersumbat lagi?

🔘 Dari pengamatan pokok2 kelapa sawit sekitar kawasan itu, nyata pokok2 itu ditakungi air kerana pokok2 nya renek2.

🔘 Tanah disitu lembut. Diharapkan pemaju akan memastikan kejadian rumah retak akibat tanah mendap di fasa awal di Setia Alam tidak berulang.
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#UpfrontCapitalBolehTahan

🔘 Kalau anda LTV70, buat kiraan betul2.  Modalnya tidaklah kecil.

🔘 Very long term investment.  Holding power perlu besar. Tidak sesuai untuk bot-bot kecil.  Nanti dilambung badai.
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#KesimpulanPenulis

🔘 Sekiranya anda tidak kisah bangun awal pergi kerja seawal 6 pagi, EG ini sesuai. Jalan teruk dari 630 pagi ke 9 pagi. Lambakan rumah semakin banyak.

🔘 Ruang untuk capital appreciation masih ada. Tapi ruang untuk mencari penyewa agak sukar akibat lambakan unit. Sewa sekitar kawasan itu 800 hingga 1200. Anda mungkin bayar 2400 sebulan termasuk maintenance fee.

🔘 Jika rizab anda lemah, hati2 beli untuk pelaburan. Beli untuk duduk okay, tapi makan jem kayalah setiap hari.

🔘 Kawasan itu belum ada pusat komersial yang mantap.  Need time. Long term investment.

🔘 Ini bukan dibawah MBSA. Setia Alam dibawah MBSA. MDKS tidak setanding MBSA yang gagah.

#SayaPutarHalim!
#PlanetJaeger
#DisclaimerApplies
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Some is true but others are so funny.
typical mentality, to wait & see attitude
even shah alam also need so many years to well develop.
new area development of coz got all kind of weakness but will be improve later.
also the whole Puncak alam will become a new city not just another taman perumahan.

only one thing i really agree is ... for this time being, this housing area is good for owned stay or an asset for next generation. Not for rental or short term investment. If u got xtra money, then can buy for your kids ... then its up to them to stay or to sell later.

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QUOTE(ubi1kelubi @ Sep 15 2016, 11:35 AM)
EW having a promotion for KWSP staff in which the discount that the KWSP staff get is 7% + 7%. KWSP head quarter will be moved to new building at kwasa land area and the distance from EG to that new building is about 25km. The offer might attract many of the staff to vest into EG and will push up EW sales eventually.
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QUOTE(potenza10 @ Sep 15 2016, 12:43 PM)
KWSP staff always got advantage.
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Of coz la.. Kwsp is the major investors for EG n other ew project too
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QUOTE(ubi1kelubi @ Sep 15 2016, 08:37 PM)
Update on Ecoworld-EPF deal. Supposedly yesterday, epf staff is not allowed to select a unit but due to high response, EW allowed it. Sticker already placed together with previous EW associate who had selected the unit. According to my fren, sales quite good, many staff placed booking. Epf staff can just select the unit n come out with a cheque later. And for staff who miss the event, they still can go to sales  gallery n get same offer sweat.gif
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brilliant move by EW ... rclxms.gif
they always have good strategy
no doubt about that
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QUOTE(autodriver @ Sep 20 2016, 11:01 PM)
Reply to "From fb page : Planet Jaeger"

This guy is too optimistic in certain extend. People from puncak alam, saujana utama and BSC might want to relocate to EG because of prestige. This is very subjective view and personal opinion. Under strate title like EG owner cannot renovate exterior or must be agreed and approved by JMB only then can do renovate.

Without hillpark, saujana utama, Shah Alam 2 and bandar seri coalfields, how confident are you EW will come into puncak alam.

He said he done detail analysis and comprehensive site study, this is simply syiok sendiri review with heavy bias.
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well said bro ..
that fb comment really syok sendiri only.
EG is good with G&G and great landscape in puncak alam but that not a really pull factor for existing residents over there.
bcoz existing residents bought the house much more cheaper long time ago & some got similar built up or some even bigger than EG.

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post Jan 9 2017, 10:14 PM

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QUOTE(alankong @ Jan 9 2017, 05:17 PM)
X is not own by LBS, LBS land is next to X and BSC.
http://wikimapia.org/#lang=en&lat=3.255136...457453&z=15&m=b
Not idea about Y and Z.
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the map is not accurate la
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QUOTE(mascot_lim @ Jan 9 2017, 11:17 PM)
May I know which part is not accurate? can you correct us?
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for alam perdana & danau perintis area
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QUOTE(p@kman @ Feb 17 2017, 09:03 AM)
Sneak peak  brows.gif [attachmentid=8494728]
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what type is this ??

looks small inside ... living, dining & kitchen just in 1 space
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post Mar 14 2017, 12:13 PM

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QUOTE(citizen_zero @ Mar 14 2017, 08:55 AM)
Went last Sunday to the show units. Some thoughts and observations:

- Not all types have both ID-ed unit and bare unit. AFAI can remember, there are no bare units for Graham B and C. Don't quite remember the Avenham ones.

- There is no show unit for Avenham Type B (same layout as type C without high ceiling on dining room).

- Turfing is not shown in all units - all are replaced by black and white tiles. I think if they put turfing especially on the Avenham units, they will look much better.

- Avenham car porch has no tiles while Graham has tiles.

- Graham bathrooms are really small. Avenham bathrooms are much better.

- Tiles used in Avenham bathrooms also look better but the Graham ones already look quite good.

- Staircase railing is meh.

- I kind of agree that the Avenham show units do not feel really spacious inside. It can be because of the ID.
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Bcoz they sell the design n garden park.. Space doesn't matter.
If want bigger size then can go inside puncak alam
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post Mar 16 2017, 08:40 PM

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QUOTE(ikram_p @ Mar 16 2017, 07:18 AM)
Yup, around there space is bigger in avanti, bandar coalfield, one jaya bungalow or cendana. But In eco you has more space outside, more thing to do. Your enviroment is design for you to go outdoor and take time to to have some sport relax jog walk or picnic.

Its good for the kids smile.gif..
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yeah .. thats normal..
b4 move in , people want bigger at outside
but after move in ... surely want bigger inside

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