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Chisinlouz
post May 24 2019, 10:27 AM

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QUOTE(darksideofthemoon @ May 24 2019, 01:09 AM)
Is Red tilapia and Patin viable for aquaculture commercially now a days? Is there an estimated price?

Also if I want to make my own feed for the above species, can anyone provide a good recipe of the above two types of fish??. TIA.
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There are people rear at commercial scale. But how big im not sure.

Best if you learn from someone who alrdy doing it but not easy to get sifu, and one that teach u everything.

Learn by blind bump...can learn more but idea of throwing money not recommended.

U can try ask gov dept for information but their suggestions is more ideal on commercial scale.

Risks exist on all options.

Pick your choice.
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post May 31 2019, 09:27 AM

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QUOTE(Chisinlouz @ May 24 2019, 10:27 AM)
There are people rear at commercial scale. But how big im not sure.

Best if you learn from someone who alrdy doing it but not easy to get sifu, and one that teach u everything.

Learn by blind bump...can learn more but idea of throwing money not recommended.

U can try ask gov dept for information but their suggestions is more ideal on commercial scale.

Risks exist on all options.

Pick your choice.
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"Pai seh" currently we are only keeping a few red tilapia in a natural pond to understand if.....
1. We know how to keep them alive and healthy.
2. Understand the cost components
3. Understand the market situation and options
4. Understand the risk at our farm. Especially erosion from other places during monsoon.
5. Understand what other things we can do at the farm together with growing tilapia.

At the moment, if we can break even, we will be very happy liao. For now, it's more of a learning process.

And I agree, risk exist everywhere. But if you never do, you will never know, so we taking baby steps. 😁 Do slowly and keeping our eyes Wide open. 😁

Chisinlouz
post May 31 2019, 01:48 PM

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QUOTE(darksideofthemoon @ May 31 2019, 09:27 AM)
"Pai seh" currently we are only keeping a few red tilapia in a natural pond to understand if.....
1. We know how to keep them alive and healthy.
2. Understand the cost components
3. Understand the market situation and options
4. Understand the risk at our farm. Especially erosion from other places during monsoon.
5. Understand what other things we can do at the farm together with growing tilapia.

At the moment, if we can break even, we will be very happy liao.  For now, it's more of a learning process.

And I agree,  risk exist everywhere.  But if you never do, you will never know, so we taking baby steps. 😁 Do slowly and keeping our eyes Wide open. 😁
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If not doing in quantity fish feed will kill your business. It's expensive. Let alone disturbance and poisoning if you don't abide.

Anyway good luck
darksideofthemoon
post Jun 4 2019, 07:54 AM

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QUOTE(Chisinlouz @ May 31 2019, 01:48 PM)
If not doing in quantity fish feed will kill your business. It's expensive. Let alone disturbance and poisoning if you don't abide.

Anyway good luck
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Oh, 😁 You're right.

Currently we are using about 4-5kg of commercial feed a day only, so we are still far from doing it ourselves.

It more for calculation and projection. At the same time understanding the science of it.

But using solely commercial feed, we are realizing that we can only do retail sales. So looking for places where we can reduce cost, so that bulk selling is also a viable option.
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post Jun 4 2019, 10:32 PM

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QUOTE(darksideofthemoon @ Jun 4 2019, 07:54 AM)
Oh, 😁 You're right. 

Currently we are using about 4-5kg of commercial feed a day only, so we are still far from doing it ourselves.

It more for calculation and projection. At the same time understanding the science of it.

But using solely commercial feed, we are realizing that we can only do retail sales. So looking for places where we can reduce cost, so that bulk selling is also a viable option.
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If u can retain retail sales group then is fine. But your limitations will be not able to cope surge order.

Anyway good luck. Hope everyone putting effort to this field can do well.
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post Jun 17 2019, 10:08 AM

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QUOTE(Chisinlouz @ Jun 4 2019, 10:32 PM)
If u can retain retail sales group then is fine. But your limitations will be not able to cope surge order.

Anyway good luck. Hope everyone putting effort to this field can do well.
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That our plan for now, to accumulate retail sale first. We did get enquiries for bulk but it's beyond us for now.

Thanks.

Wonder anyone else into freshwater aquaculture? Or looking to get into it?
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post Jun 17 2019, 04:38 PM

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QUOTE(darksideofthemoon @ Jun 17 2019, 10:08 AM)
That our plan for now, to accumulate retail sale first.  We did get enquiries for bulk but it's beyond us for now.

Thanks. 

Wonder anyone else into freshwater aquaculture?  Or looking to get into it?
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Previously look into it, but do not have budget and location wise a bit far from KL. so, did not materialise.
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post Aug 2 2019, 12:08 AM

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QUOTE(darksideofthemoon @ Jun 17 2019, 10:08 AM)
That our plan for now, to accumulate retail sale first.  We did get enquiries for bulk but it's beyond us for now.

Thanks. 

Wonder anyone else into freshwater aquaculture?  Or looking to get into it?
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hi, i am interested in doing aquaculture business. either marine fish or freshwater, if freshwater thinking of just doing aquaponics
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post Aug 2 2019, 03:59 PM

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QUOTE(jameschin @ Aug 2 2019, 12:08 AM)
hi, i am interested in doing aquaculture business. either marine fish or freshwater, if freshwater thinking of just doing aquaponics
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Aquaponics on commercial basis too?

I suggest you split the project into two phase if you are getting into aquaponics. First ensure that your fish culture is proceeding well before the getting into the plant growing. Or else you might be overwhelme with too many problems.

I think nutrients balancing will be much tougher for aquaponics, especially the micro.
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post Aug 18 2019, 03:25 PM

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QUOTE(darksideofthemoon @ Aug 2 2019, 03:59 PM)
Aquaponics on commercial basis too?

I suggest you split the project into two phase if you are getting into aquaponics. First ensure that your fish culture is proceeding well before the getting into the plant growing. Or else you might be overwhelme with too many problems.

I think nutrients balancing will be much tougher for aquaponics, especially the micro.
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yes commercial basis. yah i think u r right in that. still looking at market availability in it
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post Aug 22 2019, 10:05 AM

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QUOTE(jameschin @ Aug 18 2019, 03:25 PM)
yes commercial basis. yah i think u r right in that. still looking at market availability in it
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Otherwise start on a smaller scale in your own back yard to have a feel of what's its like. A simple setup will let you understand the fundamentals of aquaphonics and it's challenges. You might end up just liking the aquaculture part of the hydroponics part .

Anyway Keep us updated, this thread is pretty dead now.... Need some life 😁
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post Aug 22 2019, 03:06 PM

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anyone venturing into Gaharu before? it looks like good price, and average at 5 years. But I am looking for issues/problems I may face. Anyone?

I got partner with a friend, he got about 3 acres of land at Karak. Looking forward for that.
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post Aug 22 2019, 07:40 PM

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QUOTE(Yveatel @ Aug 22 2019, 03:06 PM)
anyone venturing into Gaharu before? it looks like good price, and average at 5 years. But I am looking for issues/problems I may face. Anyone?

I got partner with a friend, he got about 3 acres of land at Karak. Looking forward for that.
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Gaharu.

A tree worth money for praying purpose.

Limited market as it worth only to people that uses it. Otherwise it's just wood.

Process to make it "ripe", or become the product in production, 结香, is like hit and miss. I dont know how it works, if not mistaken not all gaharu tree can 结香。 Something like papaya tree, u might get a male tree that dont bear fruit. Something like that, but I leave this to professional.

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post Sep 20 2019, 11:08 AM

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We have several cement tanks with total water holding capacity of more than 350 M3 in Port Dickson. The tanks were built for a different purpose, now that project is over.

I think they are perfect for growing fish and have pumps, blowers and other equipment needed attached.

Any person with experience in growing fish and a selling them can propose what to do.

We are willing to share
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post Sep 20 2019, 11:57 AM

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No experience before but can give you suggestion

1) Tilapia and Keli is quite good in surviving in low oxygen
2) Total Amount of Fish in a tank depends on the total surface area (oxygen exchange purposes) unless oxygen pump in used.
3) If pump in oxygen, try adopt some technology like alert to your smart phone IF pump breaks down or electricity stop. All this will cause your fish to die within hours if not handle properly, or you got back up in water pump and generator

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post Oct 6 2019, 10:33 PM

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Those interested in aquaculture, I highly recommend venturing into brackishwater aquaculture. Start with either cage or pond.

Aquaponics is not recommended for those who're starting. It can get finicky and expensive. Build a successful aquaculture or hydroponics first and later just integrate both.

QUOTE(Deesas @ Sep 20 2019, 11:08 AM)
We have several cement tanks with total water holding capacity of more than 350 M3 in Port Dickson. The tanks were built for a different purpose, now that project is over.

I think they are perfect for growing fish and have pumps, blowers and other equipment needed attached.

Any person with experience in growing fish and a selling them can propose what to do.

We are willing to share
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first, need to determine if the site is suitable. especially on water source. both quantity and quality

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post Oct 7 2019, 10:53 PM

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anyone knows anywhere i can learn about aquaculture?
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post Oct 8 2019, 07:24 AM

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Anybody got experience in making compost in small commercial scale?
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post Oct 9 2019, 10:12 AM

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QUOTE(Kaisendon @ Oct 7 2019, 10:53 PM)
anyone knows anywhere i can learn about aquaculture?
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Go Jabatan Pertanian, as someone who "tried" to enter the field before, most farmers are kedekut ilmu and refused to share their knowledge and stingy, yes, my is failing experience not in aquaculture, but breeding chickens. my best advise is still go to Jabatan Pertanian and ask


QUOTE(ah_suknat @ Oct 8 2019, 07:24 AM)
Anybody got experience in making compost in small commercial scale?
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mine for garden use only biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

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post Oct 9 2019, 10:18 AM

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QUOTE(Yveatel @ Oct 9 2019, 02:12 AM)

mine for garden use only  biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif
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As i got unlimited supplies of biochar (living next to paddy prossecing center) i wish to make top soil to sell..but I need to learn how to make compost first biggrin.gif

 

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