hi guys, I had open a thread in finance and investment forum regarding my interest in mid scale duck rearing, can any one give any advice on this industry?

few things I would like to know are:
1. is this business profitable?
2. how's the market in duck meat & duck eggs? is it in high demand?
3.is the profit margin high or low?
4. do we need license? and whar r they?

any advices would be much appreciated, thank you

hi guys I am new to this thread.

I want to ask what is the most lucrative products these days? or what will be the hot product in the future?

I am going to move into rural area in the next 2 years, my father is a farmer now, growing vegetables. I am now working in UK, save enough money to buy some lands, planning to change my career as a farmer as well.

I am now thinking of doing swiftlets farming, poultry and goats herding. any other ideas?

oh btw the place that I am going to move into is in Ranau Sabah, close to Mt Kinabalu. most of the people there are farmers as well.

hi mazda626, you'r sabahan too?

Yeah I know Ranau quite well, my kampung is in Kundasang just that I grew up in KK.

btw I am a dude.

resort biz cost millions bed and breakfast may be possible.

thanks rexis for the advice, but for now cash is limited, I am not a big time farmer, just a small fry

I am seriously thinking of doing poultry farm yarding style, you know like the normal kandang and grass for chickens to ponder around. I think there should be a market for healthy chicken meat, people are more health and animal welfare conscious now adays, they don't want to eat the growth hormone injected chicken grew up cruely in tight space factory.

its impossible for me to do organic or 100 percent free range due to limited of land space, I only got half an acre of land to build the farm at the moment to do it small scale, when I know the selok belok how to rise the chickens and demand increasing I will buy a bigger land with more chicken , where you study? me ex tshung tsin

any1 doing poultry farming ah? chickens, ducks or goats?

what is the market price for a free range chicken or ayam kampung now?

why no one update this thread 1?

I just bought half acre of land here in sabah, will build my house there, and use the remaining land for agriculture and aquaculture business. might increase to 1 acre of land (buying the next half acre land).

I plan to do ayam kampung, jambu batu and tilapia farming, integrated system.

any sifu can give advice? totally newbie here. thanks!

45k!

in Ranau somemore.

thanks rexis for the insight!

the land is very well accessible, flat land. it had been vacant for about 8 years, just finished clearing the land, waiting for suitable time to burn the branches and grass. just behind of the land is a paddy field so water supply is available too.

luckily the previous owner had already digged 3 fish ponds about the size of roughly 10 x 7 each at the very back of the land, so i can rear some fish there. since i want to rear chicken as well, i will build the chicken pens above the ponds so the manure will drop to feed the fish. yeah i plan to rear a mixture of broiler chickens and ayam kampung, they will roam free and fertilize my jambu trees. i don't like the idea of high density chicken factory because it's cruel and there are already lots of competitors out there. i am targeting the niche market for organic free range chickens.

about the plants i am still not very sure whether to plant jambu or anything else, that's my dad's idea as he said there is a growing demand for it and it can be harvested all year round.

so in conclusion, you can see my plan is,
1)chicken
2)fish
3)jambu
integrated system so they help each other to grow.

my concern is how much i can do, like how many fish and chickens i can rear, and how many trees i can plant. i am trying to buy the next plot of land to increase the size so i can do more, but the price is so expensive, i ask yesterday and the owner say 60k for the same size of land that i bought just next to it!

chicken would be my main income since i can sell higher than the price of normal factory chickens.

is tilapia a good choice? or a mixture of tilapia and keli, from this thread i heard some say soon hock and arowana but totally no idea how.

so what do you think? if i back to kk next year may be we can meet.

or 1 acre divided into 6 lot

hi guys, like optimus_shine

I am too interested in rearing ducks instead of other livestocks.

how good is ducks in the local market, can we sell ducks eggs like chicken eggs without need to salted it? do supermarkets buy duck eggs?

Can I sell the ducks after it reach its maximum age for egg producing? still good to old ducks?

how hard is it to breed own ducks using incubator?

is there enough support for duck rearing from the govenrment?

thanks

hi michael J and lowyat agri-entrepreneurs

heres some pics I wanna share out in my mom's farm











http://s92.photobucket.com/albums/l31/ah_s...nt=MVI_0884.mp4 (video )

the land is about 2 acres big, planted some corns with it,
my mom just started 2 month ago, the 60 adult ducks (in pictures and video) are 2 month old and hopefully will make some eggs in 2 more months.

few days ago we just got an extra 400 ducklings.(in the picture)

heres a rough sketch of the said land


as the number grows, we would like to overhaul the system, the newly proposed duck shelter is to be placed at the back of the land and the ponds just next to it, the pond is connected with flowing small river so tht it stays clean. the duckling house remain the same place. the frontage of the land will use to plant crops like ubi and corn to feed the ducks.

as I will be pumping money into the venture, I need serious advice how to make it happen, how I wish brother Michael can come to my farm to have a look

my current concern is those ducks are big eater!400 ducklings can consume 10kg of baja in 2 days!

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Added on August 27, 2012, 12:53 pmmy other concern is how am I gonna market those eggs? If I can produce 4-5k of salted eggs per day, how am i supposed to sell them all? do I have to go all the kedai runcits and super markets one by one and ask if I can supply them salted egg?

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Added on August 27, 2012, 3:25 pmI just call up jabatan veterina and ask if theres is any assistance for usahawan itik, they say no, zzzzz, we are all by our self, I wonder whats the use of all this government department, makan gaji buta only

This post has been edited by ah_suknat: Aug 27 2012, 03:25 PM

thanks for the replies. I bought the ducklings at rm2.5 from jabatan vetenari, they are low on stocks so only manage to get 100, I bought the 300 from private at rm4 each, you think the price reasonable?

Aas food cost is the main cost, what is the best way to feed them with the lowest cost possible? without compromising their egg laying performance? Do you think left over food I get from schools and restaurant is ok for them?

are you experience with large scale duck farming? what is the best shelter layout design to build? with the land that I draw, what would you advice on the layout of the farm?

thanks again

Hi Mrfarmer,
Yes I am in Sabah, the farm is in Ranau to be exact.
1) yeah true they are big eater, head ache! that why I am trying to find ways in reducing the cost of feed.
2)I do not plan to sell it for the meat, but more for the eggs. I read an article said 90% of poultry industry actualy do not major in producing broiler, but major in eggs producing and only sell the meat as by product.
3) I thought water is a big plus for duck rearing? since ducks LOVE water.

that what I am trying to target as well, I will try to speak with hotels and bakeries to supply them fresh ducks eggs. but cost by cost, is it more profitable then selling salted egg & century egg? those have higher margin but the low demand off set it. I wonder where I can sell salted eggs and century eggs other than super markets.

its not really river per se, more like water ways supplied for the paddy field near by. water quality is ok, gets slight muddy during heavy rain, main concern is the water might gets poisoned during paddy season, so plain to have a seperate pipe to link the clean water source to the ponds.

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Added on August 28, 2012, 2:42 pmHi, Michael J,
suddenly I have a thought on rearing catfish as their source of protein and calcium, but cost to cost, which is more profitable? reducing food cost by rearing cat fish to feed the ducks, or rearing cat fish to sell for money? my mom told me the market prce for cat fish is RM7 per kg. the plus side in rearing catfish is they grow up fast ( 3 month?) and rather cheap to buy the bibit, plus I dont have to worry about their food as they can get it from duck manure.(if I build pen on top of the ponds), the down side is they will hide in the mud and hard to catch . if I were to sell it, is it easier to sell compare to tilapia? I sledom go to the wet market but I dont even remember the last time I ate a catfish

If my mom eventually manage to get left over food from schools and restaurants, are they safe to consume for the ducks later? what do I need to take into consideration?
1) how to make sure the left over food are free from backeria? should I mixed anti biotic with it?
2) if they eat porks, will it make the duck eggs not halal?

is it good to feed them powdered bones for their source of calcium?(gonna get them from KFC left over )
you also mentioned duckweed and watermillfoils, how do I grow them? do they just grow itself? are they fesible in large scale?

I can see that you are very good at pofitability calculation and project feasibility for an agriculture project, may I ask you what are main concern I need to know in starting a duck eggs production in terms of costing, how much money do I need and where does the money goes? assuming I start from sratch.

If my ultimate goal is to rear up to 10k ducks, which is better? buy the ducklings or hatch them myself? I do not plan to sell ducklings.

if I cant source the ducklings locally, is it possible to have ducklings SHIP all the way from peninsular to Sabah?

what is meant by intensive, non intensive?

thank you very much!

This post has been edited by ah_suknat: Aug 28 2012, 11:46 PM

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/176372...-the-dream-farm

how I wish I can do this here,,,,is there any medium like this here in Malaysia that I can try to collect funds...?

hey! thats adoption is actually a good idea!

I have been thinking If I were to ask for fund in the kick start program, what should I offer the investors, now that perhaps an adoption for a duck is probably a good one!

sure, take your time, thanks for letting us know
keep us update with the government project

Hi guys...still remember my post earlier about my duck farm?

those ducklings are now bigger... they should be layng eggs end of the month

hahaha, ironically i call my farm as " golden egg agro farm"

I want to ask what is the best bank to apply loan for my duck farm?
I already have enough money to run my venture from my investors, but I need to build my track record as being a good borrower so I cant borrow huge amount of loan for rapid expansion.

some of the financial institution that I can think of are
1) Agrobank funds for food (3F) - low interest at 3.75%, no guarantor needed for under RM20k loan, but need collateral, need guarantor for above RM20k loan.

2), TEKUN - low interest rate at 4% and some charges I dont really understand, no guarantor, no collateral needed but can only loan RM10k for first timer, 2nd loan RM30k max, 3rd loan RM50k max.

3), SME bank - not yet research

4) MARA - not yet research

5), any other suggestion??

hi guys, wondering whats the best way to market my salted eggs?

how do you guys market your foods?

currently I am selling to retails and kopitiam....

if you guys got the ins and outs and secret in dealing with this people then please let me know....

business to business is my first venture...my past business is business to consumer....