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 [OFFICIAL]Rig Suggestion Q&A Thread V12!

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terence_nwb
post Oct 27 2016, 09:24 AM

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QUOTE(TaintedSoul @ Oct 26 2016, 10:42 PM)
i5 6500k or i7-6700.

casual gaming like bf1 and future high graphics games.

Can an overclocked i5-6500k perform better than i7-6700? noticeable performance increase?
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Ermm I think there is a typo there right? Should be 6600K.

6600K is an unlocked quad core CPU, 6700 is a locked quad core with multithreading technology support.

In theory, if you bump the 6600K to 4.5GHz, it should be faster than 6700 but this doesn't apply to all real life application out there, some games/apps do utilize the multithreading technology and take full advantage of it.

Take note that overclocking the 6600K to match or overtake the performance of 6700 will require a good Z170 mobo, a decent CPU cooler (stock cooler won't cut it) and PSU (not really a problem since overclocking doesn't consume too much power nowadays).

QUOTE(MagnificM @ Oct 26 2016, 11:15 PM)
Ok, another friend of mine have this discontinued Cooler Master Extreme Power Plus 500W. He was planning to get a 1060 next yr. Is 500W enough for the 1060 ? if not, ill suggest him to get 1050Ti
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360W max output on 12V rails, so yes this PSU is able to run a single GTX1060 provided you don't have any other high consumption components installed in the rig.

QUOTE(ayaizafri @ Oct 27 2016, 12:24 AM)
Is this include CPU cooling?
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Yea the CPU package does come with 1 Intel HSF (stock cooler) while the casing comes with 2 casing fans (1 intake 1 exhaust).
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post Oct 27 2016, 11:31 AM

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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Oct 27 2016, 09:24 AM)
360W max output on 12V rails, so yes this PSU is able to run a single GTX1060 provided you don't have any other high consumption components installed in the rig.

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ok, ive checked at a website that the PSU only provide 1 6 pin cabel, if my friend want to get those GTX1060 with a 8 pin connector, he can just get an adapter right ? i mean some 6 pin to 8 pin adapter ? sweat.gif
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post Oct 27 2016, 11:49 AM

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QUOTE(MagnificM @ Oct 27 2016, 11:31 AM)
ok, ive checked at a website that the PSU only provide 1 6 pin cabel, if my friend want to get those GTX1060 with a 8 pin connector, he can just get an adapter right ? i mean some 6 pin to 8 pin adapter ?  sweat.gif
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The TDP for GTX1060 is just 120W and it only requires 1 x 6 pin PCIe power cable, even those cards with the extra 2 pin are also very hard to go beyond this limit. My advise is to play safe, even we know there is a very high chance that the GPU won't be using the extra power from the last 2 pin, it is still better to get something that is compatible with each other.

So it either just stick with 6 pin card or upgrade the PSU and get a 8 pin card (this will double the cost which isn't worth at all).
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Oct 27 2016, 11:49 AM)
The TDP for GTX1060 is just 120W and it only requires 1 x 6 pin PCIe power cable, even those cards with the extra 2 pin are also very hard to go beyond this limit. My advise is to play safe, even we know there is a very high chance that the GPU won't be using the extra power from the last 2 pin, it is still better to get something that is compatible with each other.

So it either just stick with 6 pin card or upgrade the PSU and get a 8 pin card (this will double the cost which isn't worth at all).
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i see, tq bro, will tell tell him later thumbup.gif
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post Oct 27 2016, 01:11 PM

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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Oct 27 2016, 09:24 AM)
Take note that overclocking the 6600K to match or overtake the performance of 6700 will require a good Z170 mobo, a decent CPU cooler (stock cooler won't cut it) and PSU (not really a problem since overclocking doesn't consume too much power nowadays).
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Isn't that overclocking will increase power draw exponentially because of overvolting? Because mine is overclocked but not even a month in age yet, and I fear my electricity bill will go through the roof sweat.gif
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post Oct 27 2016, 01:24 PM

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My monitor only has VGA input. If I were to get a GTX 1050, would a HDMI to VGA converter/adapter work and would there be any lag?
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post Oct 27 2016, 02:02 PM

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QUOTE(lolzcalvin @ Oct 27 2016, 01:11 PM)
Isn't that overclocking will increase power draw exponentially because of overvolting? Because mine is overclocked but not even a month in age yet, and I fear my electricity bill will go through the roof sweat.gif
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It will increase power draw but not much for light and mild overclocking, but don't worry too much, your CPU aren't staying at the overclocked speed for 24/7 and skyrocket your bill, if it really does increase the bill by a margin that isn't acceptable by you (or the one who is paying the bill), just underclock the CPU to stock speed if you aren't using any CPU demanding software (or adaptive power management) sweat.gif

QUOTE(niggerhigger @ Oct 27 2016, 01:24 PM)
My monitor only has VGA input. If I were to get a GTX 1050, would a HDMI to VGA converter/adapter work and would there be any lag?
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VGA to HDMI involves analog to digital signal convertion, it depends on the quality of the cable, if you aren't too picky on the quality then you will be fine, it wouldn't cause any noticeable lag or slow down, only slightly less quality images will be rendered on the screen in the worst case.
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Hi, need help to suggest for custom rig

[Budget] MYR2500

[Purpose] Media consumptions, documents, normal gaming (ie gaming with normal settings, no high demand on graphic quality)

[Hardwares that will be re-use] Monitor, keyboard, mouse, 2.1 speakers,

[Monitor resolution] Fine with Full HD, 4k UHD desirable (might upgrade monitor later to fulfill this)

[Games & softwares that use frequently] Media players, Office suites, Dota 2, RPG, FPS with standard graphic quality

[Personal preferences] SFF / low noise but not liquid cooling
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post Oct 27 2016, 02:35 PM

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QUOTE(ahhead21 @ Oct 27 2016, 02:29 PM)
Hi, need help to suggest for custom rig

[Budget] MYR2500

[Purpose] Media consumptions, documents, normal gaming (ie gaming with normal settings, no high demand on graphic quality) 

[Hardwares that will be re-use] Monitor, keyboard, mouse, 2.1 speakers,

[Monitor resolution] Fine with Full HD, 4k UHD desirable (might upgrade monitor later to fulfill this)

[Games & softwares that use frequently] Media players, Office suites, Dota 2, RPG, FPS with standard graphic quality 

[Personal preferences] SFF / low noise but not liquid cooling
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Intel Core i5 6402P - RM 732
ASRock H110M-ITX - RM 278
Kingston 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 198
Zotac GTX1050Ti 4GB GDDR5 Mini - RM 729
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 215
Corsair VS450 - RM 162
CM Elite 110 - RM 158

Total: RM 2472 (ETech price inclusive of GST)

If you need SSD, then you can downgrade the i5 to i3 6098P/6100 (around RM 480) and add a 240GB SSD (around RM 300).
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post Oct 27 2016, 07:36 PM

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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Oct 27 2016, 02:02 PM)
VGA to HDMI involves analog to digital signal convertion, it depends on the quality of the cable, if you aren't too picky on the quality then you will be fine, it wouldn't cause any noticeable lag or slow down, only slightly less quality images will be rendered on the screen in the worst case.
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Thank you. Will a DVI-D to VGA adapter also work and would that be better?

This post has been edited by niggerhigger: Oct 27 2016, 07:38 PM
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post Oct 27 2016, 07:37 PM

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Hello, need sifus notworthy.gif to recommend a rig that is used for AutoCAD, 2D, 3D and etc work related stuffs.

Budget: RM6K

Please include everything including monitor excluding mouse and keyboard.

Thank you rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(niggerhigger @ Oct 27 2016, 07:36 PM)
Thank you. Will a DVI-D to VGA adapter also work and would that be better?
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Signal convertion will take place if VGA is involved, so there is no difference between DVI and HDMI to VGA, both will need to convert analog signal to digital signal and vice versa.

QUOTE(AthrunIJ @ Oct 27 2016, 07:37 PM)
Hello, need sifus  notworthy.gif to recommend a rig that is used for AutoCAD, 2D, 3D and etc work related stuffs.

Budget: RM6K

Please include everything including monitor excluding mouse and keyboard.

Thank you  rclxms.gif
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6K is a very healthly budget and can have many potential builds for your workload, it is not necessary to follow all the parts listed below, you can always customize it to match your own requirements.

Intel Core i7 6700 - RM 1336
Gigabyte H170-HD3 (D4) - RM 446
Kingston 16GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 396
Palit GTX1060 6GB GDDR5 Dual Fan - RM 1238
Kingston SSDNow UV400 240GB SSD - RM 296
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 215
Superflower Leadex Gold 550W - RM 409
Tecware Alpha - RM 199
Dell U2515H 2K IPS - RM 1389

Total: RM 5924 (ETech price inclusive of GST)

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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Oct 27 2016, 08:38 PM)
Signal convertion will take place if VGA is involved, so there is no difference between DVI and HDMI to VGA, both will need to convert analog signal to digital signal and vice versa.
6K is a very healthly budget and can have many potential builds for your workload, it is not necessary to follow all the parts listed below, you can always customize it to match your own requirements.

Intel Core i7 6700 - RM 1336
Gigabyte H170-HD3 (D4) - RM 446
Kingston 16GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 396
Palit GTX1060 6GB GDDR5 Dual Fan - RM 1238
Kingston SSDNow UV400 240GB SSD - RM 296
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 215
Superflower Leadex Gold 550W - RM 409
Tecware Alpha - RM 199
Dell U2515H 2K IPS - RM 1389

Total: RM 5924 (ETech price inclusive of GST)
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Just a couple of questions. The PSU never heard before of the brand, is it good? Read some reviews saying if can get the EVGA equivalent?

Also, will GTX1070 have any effect at all with AutoCAD and stuffs compared to GTX1060?

Also, Thanks for your recommendations. thumbup.gif
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post Oct 27 2016, 09:12 PM

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QUOTE(AthrunIJ @ Oct 27 2016, 08:50 PM)
Just a couple of questions. The PSU never heard before of the brand, is it good? Read some reviews saying if can get the EVGA equivalent?

Also, will GTX1070 have any effect at all with AutoCAD and stuffs compared to GTX1060?

Also, Thanks for your recommendations.  thumbup.gif
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Superflower is the OEM for many PSU brands out there, so no worries on this, in fact the specific model that I've chosen is a top tier (grade A) PSU that is available at a very affordable price in the local market.

Not all EVGA PSU are made equally, some of the low end EVGA models are just so-so and EVGA doesn't manufacture/produce PSU at all, they outsource the manufacturing process to other PSU OEM like Superflower, FSP and Seasonic, what they do is just simply apply their brand name sticker (and other info) on the PSU itself and do the packaging before they ship it to the retailers biggrin.gif

GTX1070 which packs more CUDA cores (33% more) than GTX1060, this will certainly help in those GPU oriented operation/process, but first you will have to find out whether your workload involves all those heavy GPU bounded stuffs or not first, if no then GTX1060 should be enough.

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post Oct 27 2016, 09:20 PM

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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Oct 27 2016, 09:12 PM)
Superflower is the OEM for many PSU brands out there, so no worries on this, in fact the specific model that I've chosen is a top tier (grade A) PSU that is available at a very affordable price in the local market.

Not all EVGA PSU are made equally, some of the low end EVGA models are just so-so and EVGA doesn't manufacture/produce PSU at all, they outsource the manufacturing process to other PSU OEM like Superflower, FSP and Seasonic, what they do is just simply apply their brand name sticker (and other info) on the PSU itself and do the packaging before they ship it to the retailers  biggrin.gif

GTX1070 which packs more CUDA cores (33% more) than GTX1060, this will certainly help in those GPU oriented operation/process, but first you will have to find out whether your workload involves all those heavy GPU bounded stuffs or not first, if no then GTX1060 should be enough.
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All right. Thanks for the info and again very much appreciate you taking your time.

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post Oct 29 2016, 08:26 AM

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[Budget] 1.3k

[Purpose] casual gaming (not many hardcore games like witcher 3 or fallout 4)

[Hardwares that will be re-use] 750 ti, hdd, dvd drive,

[Monitor resolution]1080p

[Games & softwares that use frequently] overwatch, fifa 17
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QUOTE(Moongrave @ Oct 29 2016, 08:26 AM)
[Budget] 1.3k

[Purpose] casual gaming (not many hardcore games like witcher 3 or fallout 4)

[Hardwares that will be re-use] 750 ti, hdd, dvd drive,

[Monitor resolution]1080p

[Games & softwares that use frequently] overwatch, fifa 17
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Intel Core i3 6098P - RM 453
ASRock H110M-HDV - RM 245
Kingston 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 198
Corsair VS450 - RM 162
Tecware F3 - RM 119

Total: RM 1177 (ETech price inclusive of GST)

Since you still have some budget left, you can add a 120GB SSD if needed.
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Oct 29 2016, 03:10 PM)
Intel Core i3 6098P - RM 453
ASRock H110M-HDV - RM 245
Kingston 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 198
Corsair VS450 - RM 162
Tecware F3 - RM 119

Total: RM 1177 (ETech price inclusive of GST)

Since you still have some budget left, you can add a 120GB SSD if needed.
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What ssd is good for 200-300 bro?
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post Oct 29 2016, 06:03 PM

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QUOTE(Moongrave @ Oct 29 2016, 04:21 PM)
What ssd is good for 200-300 bro?
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Kingston UV400 240GB is less than RM 300 biggrin.gif
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I want to upgrade my pc, listed below is my current spec
Processor : i7 2600k
Motherboard : asus p8z68-v
RAM : corsair 8gb 1600mhz ddr3
HDD : 1 tb western digital (black)
Graphic Card : asus engtx 550 ti 1g ( which graphic card should i upgrade to?)
Power Supply : corsair 700w
Casing : cooler master rc-311 elite medium tower ( should i upgrade to new casing?)
ODD : lite-on 24x super all write sata dvd-rw

Also want a cooler system...
No budget

I also need a suggestion on new RIG.budget around 3.5k with i7
daily usage : software development & d2/overwatch

Thanks.

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