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 [OFFICIAL]Rig Suggestion Q&A Thread V12!

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rotb123
post Oct 29 2016, 10:01 PM

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Hi,

Need some recommendation on my cpu and ssd.

i3-6100 / fx 6300 ?
H110m mobo
8gb 2133mhz
hdd wd 1tb blue
gtx 1050ti
psu fsp hexa+ 450w? enuf?
casing any
ssd 120gb

1. Wanna know if fx6300 is much better than i3-6100?
2. Do i need additional cooler if its fx6300?
3. can i say i3-6100 with ssd on par with i5 processor?

Thanks in advance!

edit: also please assist on price biggrin.gif

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post Oct 29 2016, 10:58 PM

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QUOTE(meaninglessx7 @ Oct 29 2016, 09:13 PM)
I want to upgrade my pc, listed below is my current spec
Processor : i7 2600k
Motherboard : asus p8z68-v
RAM : corsair 8gb 1600mhz ddr3
HDD : 1 tb western digital (black)
Graphic Card : asus engtx 550 ti 1g ( which graphic card should i upgrade to?)
Power Supply : corsair 700w
Casing : cooler master rc-311 elite medium tower ( should i upgrade to new casing?)
ODD : lite-on 24x super all write sata dvd-rw

Also want a cooler system...
No budget

I also need a suggestion on new RIG.budget around 3.5k with i7
daily usage : software development & d2/overwatch

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For the upgrade part, what games do you play? If only Dota 2/CS:GO or light weight games then you can just go for the newly released GTX1050Ti (around RM 750). And about the cooler, do you overclock your CPU?

New rig based on i7:

Intel Core i7 6700 - RM 1336
Gigabyte B150M-D3H (D4) - RM 379
Kingston 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 198
Zotac GTX1050Ti 4GB GDDR5 Mini - RM 729
Kingston SSDNow UV400 240GB SSD - RM 290
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 215
Corsair VS450 - RM 162
Tecware Alpha - RM 199

Total: RM 3508 (ETech price inclusive of GST)

QUOTE(rotb123 @ Oct 29 2016, 10:01 PM)
Hi,

Need some recommendation on my cpu and ssd.

i3-6100 / fx 6300 ?
H110m mobo
8gb 2133mhz
hdd wd 1tb blue
gtx 1050ti
psu fsp hexa+ 450w? enuf?
casing any
ssd 120gb

1. Wanna know if fx6300 is much better than i3-6100?
2. Do i need additional cooler if its fx6300?
3. can i say i3-6100 with ssd on par with i5 processor?

Thanks in advance!

edit: also please assist on price biggrin.gif
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Spending money in an aged AMD FX CPU is quite risky due to inconsistent gaming performance across all the titles in the market, if the games that you play is optimized to run on the multicore architecture of FX6300 then it will pull ahead in i3 (or same par with it). i3 will give you a more stable performance and less headache in current context.

3rd party is not needed if you don't overclock the FX CPU. An i3 is always an i3 (2C4T, desktop SKU), you cannot simply "upgrade" it to i5 (4C4T) by just adding a SSD, SSD is just a storage disk and it contributes nothing to CPU computation other than just a much faster I/O performance than standard HDD. The "core" between Intel and AMD is not the same, you cannot compare them directly as they are built under different architectures.

450W is enough for GTX1050Ti, the TDP is just 75W (for stock reference specs).

Intel Core i3 6100 - RM 490
ASRock H110M-HDV - RM 245
Kingston 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 198
Zotac GTX1050Ti 4GB GDDR5 Mini - RM 729
Kingston SSDNow UV400 120GB SSD - RM 190
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 215
Corsair VS450 - RM 162
Tecware F3 - RM 119

Total: RM 2348 (ETech price inclusive of GST)

You can "downgrade" the i3 6100 to i3 6098P to save some money if you wish, i3 6098P is just 0.1GHz slower than i3 6100 and comes with a weaker iGPU (HD510) which isn't important at all if you have a dedicated GPU.

This post has been edited by terence_nwb: Oct 29 2016, 11:02 PM
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post Oct 29 2016, 11:14 PM

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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Oct 29 2016, 10:58 PM)

Spending money in an aged AMD FX CPU is quite risky due to inconsistent gaming performance across all the titles in the market, if the games that you play is optimized to run on the multicore architecture of FX6300 then it will pull ahead in i3 (or same par with it). i3 will give you a more stable performance and less headache in current context.

3rd party is not needed if you don't overclock the FX CPU. An i3 is always an i3 (2C4T, desktop SKU), you cannot simply "upgrade" it to i5 (4C4T) by just adding a SSD, SSD is just a storage disk and it contributes nothing to CPU computation other than just a much faster I/O performance than standard HDD. The "core" between Intel and AMD is not the same, you cannot compare them directly as they are built under different architectures.

450W is enough for GTX1050Ti, the TDP is just 75W (for stock reference specs).

Intel Core i3 6100 - RM 490
ASRock H110M-HDV - RM 245
Kingston 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 198
Zotac GTX1050Ti 4GB GDDR5 Mini - RM 729
Kingston SSDNow UV400 120GB SSD - RM 190
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 215
Corsair VS450 - RM 162
Tecware F3 - RM 119

Total: RM 2348 (ETech price inclusive of GST)

You can "downgrade" the i3 6100 to i3 6098P to save some money if you wish, i3 6098P is just 0.1GHz slower than i3 6100 and comes with a weaker iGPU (HD510) which isn't important at all if you have a dedicated GPU.
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Thank you so much for your input, Terence!
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post Oct 29 2016, 11:33 PM

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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Oct 29 2016, 10:58 PM)
For the upgrade part, what games do you play? If only Dota 2/CS:GO or light weight games then you can just go for the newly released GTX1050Ti (around RM 750). And about the cooler, do you overclock your CPU?

New rig based on i7:

Intel Core i7 6700 - RM 1336
Gigabyte B150M-D3H (D4) - RM 379
Kingston 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 198
Zotac GTX1050Ti 4GB GDDR5 Mini - RM 729
Kingston SSDNow UV400 240GB SSD - RM 290
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 215
Corsair VS450 - RM 162
Tecware Alpha - RM 199

Total: RM 3508 (ETech price inclusive of GST)

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Okay, thanks.

I don't overclock my cpu, but few time because of thermal paste then got overheat issue.

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post Oct 30 2016, 09:26 AM

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Guys, which GTX 1060 got led? The cheapest one is G1 Gaming?
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QUOTE(casio17 @ Oct 30 2016, 09:26 AM)
Guys, which GTX 1060 got led? The cheapest one is G1 Gaming?
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did you mean the RGB lighting ? if yes, those with RGB are these :

- Gigabyte (the gigabyte logo will light up)
- Asus (the branding and the shroud will light up, the ROG logo on the backplate doesn't compared to its bigger brother 1070 and 1080)
- MSI (I think it dont have RGB, but can still change colour which is a static one)

is there any that I've missed ? sweat.gif

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post Oct 30 2016, 11:33 AM

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[B][Budget]rm 1.5k<

[Purpose]upgrading my processor and GPU

[Hardwares that will be re-use]ram,ssd,hdd,casing

[Monitor resolution] 1366x768

[Games & softwares that use frequently] Dota2 & Runescape,hoping to get at least high settings on DOOM

[Personal preferences] Can give some suggestions for a cheap mini itx gaming desktp for uni?

[Location]I can personally buy the parts in KL
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post Oct 30 2016, 01:20 PM

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QUOTE(casio17 @ Oct 30 2016, 09:26 AM)
Guys, which GTX 1060 got led? The cheapest one is G1 Gaming?
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Either Gigabyte Extreme Gaming or Asus Strix.
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post Oct 30 2016, 02:01 PM

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QUOTE(AweFace @ Oct 30 2016, 11:33 AM)
[B][Budget]rm 1.5k<

[Purpose]upgrading my processor and GPU

[Hardwares that will be re-use]ram,ssd,hdd,casing

[Monitor resolution] 1366x768

[Games & softwares that use frequently] Dota2 & Runescape,hoping to get at least high settings on DOOM

[Personal preferences] Can give some suggestions for a cheap mini itx gaming desktp for uni?

[Location]I can personally buy the parts in KL
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You want to upgrade your processor and GPU but didn't mention the mobo you have, I need to know the mobo model so I can point you the correct direction to go.
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post Oct 30 2016, 02:18 PM

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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Oct 30 2016, 02:01 PM)
You want to upgrade your processor and GPU but didn't mention the mobo you have, I need to know the mobo model so I can point you the correct direction to go.
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Intel® Desktop Board DH67CL
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post Oct 30 2016, 03:36 PM

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QUOTE(AweFace @ Oct 30 2016, 02:18 PM)
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LGA1155 socket, quite aged, have to search for used LGA1155 CPU if you want to keep the mobo (save cost).

I noticed you asked for "Can give some suggestions for a cheap mini itx gaming desktp for uni?", so you want to upgrade your current rig to mITX or it's another new rig based on mITX? Confused rclxub.gif

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post Oct 30 2016, 03:43 PM

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Hey guys, im planning to upgrade my gpu. Currently using gtx 760. Can recommend me some?
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Oct 30 2016, 03:36 PM)
LGA1155 socket, quite aged, have to search for used LGA1155 CPU if you want to keep the mobo (save cost).

I noticed you asked for "Can give some suggestions for a cheap mini itx gaming desktp for uni?", so you want to upgrade your current rig to mITX or it's another new rig based on mITX? Confused  rclxub.gif
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How much would I have to add if I wanted to use 5th gen processor?
Now is upgrade my house's desktop while saving for another mITX build.
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QUOTE(game4life @ Oct 30 2016, 03:43 PM)
Hey guys, im planning to upgrade my gpu. Currently using gtx 760. Can recommend me some?
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What's your budget?

QUOTE(AweFace @ Oct 30 2016, 04:14 PM)
How much would I have to add if I wanted to use 5th gen processor?
Now is upgrade my house's desktop while saving for another mITX build.
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5th gen? Obsoleted and only the K (or C in 5th gen series) is available, Intel didn't release non-K 5th gen CPU to the market as the 6th gen is scheduled to arrive very shortly after it got released, go for 6th gen instead.

i3 CPU + cheapest H110 mobo + 8GB DDR4 RAM will cost around 1.1k, add ~RM 400 more for i5.
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Oct 30 2016, 09:51 PM)
What's your budget?
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around 1k

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QUOTE(game4life @ Oct 31 2016, 12:12 AM)
around 1k
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The best for that budget would be GTX1060 3GB or top up RM 200 more for 6GB variant (+10% more performance than the 3GB variant too).
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Budget: RM1.5k

Purpose: Casual gaming, movie download, illustrator (Steam games, assuming high quality?)

Hardwares that will be re-use Just recently changed PSU. HDD, DVD, casing will reuse.

Monitor resolution:1080p (Samsung 22.3inch)

Games & softwares that use frequently: Illustrator, latest games.

Current Rig
Leadtek GTX650Ti BOOST 2GD5 O.C
Intel E3-1230v3
Asrock B85M-HDS

Issue
- Everytime I play some high details or performance game, it will blackout and I need to force restart. Heroes of Newerth is fine, no idea why
- Takes time to load my system. Have plans on getting a SSD to run my system
- PC easily get attack by virus, need a good anti-virus system too
- Need at least 8 USB port on MOBO. More USB3.0 the better

Remark
- I consider this a major overhaul as my some part of the system lasted for almost 3-4 years already
- If budget exceed a little is fine but not too much as I don't really intend on spending that much. The lesser the better
- If parts can get cheaper from lazada or other websites, pls let me know too
- Have plans to change to another casing as CM690 is too bulky and space taking
- Should I go for high spec i3 or mid range i5? hmm.gif
- Any recommendations for bigger screen monitor? Or can I go for 32inch LED TV instead? hmm.gif

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QUOTE(Belphegor @ Oct 31 2016, 12:51 PM)
Budget: RM1.5k

Purpose: Casual gaming, movie download, illustrator (Steam games, assuming high quality?)

Hardwares that will be re-use Just recently changed PSU. HDD, DVD, casing will reuse.

Monitor resolution:1080p (Samsung 22.3inch)

Games & softwares that use frequently: Illustrator, latest games.

Current Rig
Leadtek GTX650Ti BOOST 2GD5 O.C
Intel E3-1230v3
Asrock B85M-HDS

Issue
- Everytime I play some high details or performance game, it will blackout and I need to force restart. Heroes of Newerth is fine, no idea why
- Takes time to load my system. Have plans on getting a SSD to run my system
- PC easily get attack by virus, need a good anti-virus system too
- Need at least 8 USB port on MOBO. More USB3.0 the better

Remark
- I consider this a major overhaul as my some part of the system lasted for almost 3-4 years already
- If budget exceed a little is fine but not too much as I don't really intend on spending that much. The lesser the better
- If parts can get cheaper from lazada or other websites, pls let me know too
- Have plans to change to another casing as CM690 is too bulky and space taking
- Should I go for high spec i3 or mid range i5? hmm.gif
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1.5k is not a healthy budget for a major rig overhaul, you either end up with handicapped CPU or GPU.

My advise is to keep the CPU, it is basically an i7 4770 with slightly lower clock speed and no iGPU (not important as you have dedicated GPU), go for a better GPU (GTX1060) and 240GB SSD.
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Oct 31 2016, 01:07 PM)
1.5k is not a healthy budget for a major rig overhaul, you either end up with handicapped CPU or GPU.

My advise is to keep the CPU, it is basically an i7 4770 with slightly lower clock speed and no iGPU (not important as you have dedicated GPU), go for a better GPU (GTX1060) and 240GB SSD.
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i7 proc, gtx1060 and 240 ssd?

But my rig can match these proc and gpu? hmm.gif worried the plug different.
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QUOTE(Belphegor @ Oct 31 2016, 01:15 PM)
i7 proc, gtx1060 and 240 ssd?

But my rig can match these proc and gpu? hmm.gif worried the plug different.
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Well I stated your current CPU is basically an i7 4770 (with all the differences stated in previous sentence) so you don't have to upgrade the CPU (same goes to mobo and RAM unless RAM is not enough) GPU and SSD upgrade more suitable for your budget, a complete CPU platform upgrade would cost you another 1.5k (in average).

GPU uses PCIe to communicate/connect to the main board so this isn't a problem, same goes to SSD, any SATA based SSD will work just fine with your current mobo.

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