Am new to this thread...
I believe what @wanttotree meant by a smart switch is a managed switch.
Meaning a switch that supports VLANs (with all the necessary VLAN tagging, etc).

This post has been edited by waihoe: Feb 6 2019, 12:15 PM

@waihoe .... I think you may be right.

Let me try to be more precise in my wording and attach a diagram of what I am trying to do. Will the following attached diagram work ? If possible, can I reconfigure the TP-Link AC1200 C5v to act only as an ATA ? (ie. turn off dhcp, off wifi etc)

OR do I need to buy something like the Linksys ATA mentioned a few posts earlier ?

This post has been edited by teohes: Feb 6 2019, 06:14 PM


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A managed switch offers significantly more advanced control features at a higher cost. A smart switch is an entry-level managed switch, providing the best of both worlds. In general, a business network hosting less than 100 active users will do just fine with a smart switch.

I was thinking that each vlan have their own dhcp server.. because.. these vlan for sure will separate and isolate your network (guest vlan and personal vlan).

Unfortunately that device (voip phone adapter) wont work on maxis home fibre. Smart switch is something like mikrotik rb260gs or tp-link tl-sg105e. This switch enable u to segment the vlan so both your usg and tp-link connected to the internet and the tp-link to work with the analogue phone.

Most people dont do this because lack of importance for voip on home use, for me i use it because of the free calls. If u r not familiar with this setup, dont hesitate to contact me personally via pm. My previous message has a simple text schematic of the setup. But being limited to text on forum box, it might not be too clear compared to image based schematic.

Basically,

1) your fibre cable fibre will connect to one of the smart switch port. Eg : port 1

2) your usg will connect to one of the port on smart switch. Eg : port 2 connected to usg WAN port.

3) your maxis tp-link router will connect to one of the port on the smart switch. Eg : port 3 connected to tp-link router WAN port.

4) u will configure the smart switch to;
i) tag vlan 621 to port 1, port 2 and port 3
ii) tag vlan 822 to port 1 and port 3

Now you are using two routers to go online, usg to handle your internet traffic, then your existing tp-link router to handle the analogue voip. It works perfectly for almost 2 years now.

This post has been edited by wanttotree: Feb 6 2019, 07:25 PM

Thanks @pandera999, @wanttotree.

OK, I think I understand what I need to do. @wanttotree, Is my latest attached diagram here correct?

From @wanttotree's description, I understand both routers (ie, the USG and the TP-Link AC1200) will need to establish their own PPPoE connection to MAXIS.

QUESTION: Does Maxis allow 2 simultaneous PPPoE logins from the same account ?




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That schematic is spot on! And yes multiple pppoe connections are allowed, as long as its the same exact account. It will be capped to yr subbed speed if ur wondering(lol). Good luck. Cheers.

which means that the Gen2 Plus no longer require NVR if we want to setup surveillance system?

Gen2+ have build in hdd up to 5Tb. you can see my previous post. a gen2+ and some login interface

yes... correct.. it can be done in that way which is much easier... less hassle..

I didnt know that you can dial same pppoe account at the same time. Well I did use my friend streamyx pppoe few years back, he got billed way too much lol. so bad of me.

if your router can handle vlans, would it be right to say you don't need a smart switch? even a dumb switch can be used as all vlan can be forwarded to maxis router and usg

It would be nice and interesting to hear your setup recommendation instead. =)

basically what he is saying is since the voip need both vlans to work why not put a layer2 switch let all the vlan go thru, just need to assign vlan in the voip router and the usg only.

@gaara92 @quasi @wanttotree

I have read that there are no formal specifications for the behaviour of "unmanaged L2 switches that are VLAN un-aware" when they encounter tagged VLAN frames. Apparently some switches will just drop them whilst others will faithfully pass them along. (I guess others could just collide and keep trying ?)

OK ...curiousity got the better of me and I just tried the following setup to see if this particular L2 switch I happen to have (D-LINK DGS-1008MP) will just "pass thru'" the tagged frames or drop them.

As per diagram (sorry... rough quick draw) , I connected my wired PC to the ER-X and my iPhone to the WIFI on the TP-Link AC1200.

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Test 1: with both the USG and the TP-Link AC1200 Routers ON

Ran Maxis Speed test on my wired PC (5 times) ....averaged about 91Mbps Download Speed
I have tried ringing the analog phone whilst the test I running too. Phone seem to work ok.
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Test 2: with the USG powered ON and the TP-Link AC1200 OFF

Ran Maxis Speed test on my wired PC (5 times) ....averaged about 94Mbps Download Speed
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Test 3: with both the USG and the TP-Link AC1200 Routers ON

Ran 2 you-tube videos on my PC and 1 you-tube video on my iPhone 6.
Ran all 3 videos streaming for about 30 minutes, no gliches.
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Not an exhaustive test I know, but it does look like a viable setup if one already has a spare L2 switch
and do not wish to spend more for a smart switch. (For my setup, I am buying a TL-SG105e cos I
want my setup to be VLAN aware and cannot afford to depend on an L2 switch that happen to be well behaved).

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Thanx for this experiment, i now learned that l2 switch can pass over tagged vlan. Maybe useful sooner or later. Cheers.

This week project

I see subtel hehe

whoaaa... big2 project...

This post has been edited by pandera999: Feb 19 2019, 02:43 PM

Yesterday finish everything

9 x point cat 6 cabling
6 x UVC G3 Cameras Dome
1 x UVC G3 Camera Outdoor
2 x UAP NanoHD
1 x 24 ports POE Switch Ubiquiti
1 x 9u ST rack
1 x P2P Nano HD AC Gen 2

To be continue another point at second house






This post has been edited by MX510: Feb 21 2019, 09:25 AM

that was nice.... wish can do something like that cloud key.. even my ck was left hanging like dat as well...