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post Mar 2 2007, 05:13 PM

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Massa looks promising.
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QUOTE(Raikkonen @ Mar 2 2007, 05:13 PM)
Massa looks promising.
He might outshine Kimi  hmm.gif
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massa is on the ferrari's latest Aerodynamics package rite?maybe this help him alot
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post Mar 3 2007, 01:08 PM

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QUOTE(linkinstreet @ Mar 1 2007, 12:02 AM)
For some reason, I disagree with the Schumacher 'rewritten the whole F1 record' thing. Did he get the most pole? yes he did, but it took him over 1/5th of the races that he entered to get that. Senna meanwhile scored pole every 0.4 races. And points? hell, that's not significant. Considering the races he entered, and the points given out was different from the times of James Hunt/Jackie Stewart/Juan Manual Fangio, it's just not fair. Juan Manual started F1 at fricking 40++ for crying out loud. If he was younger, he could have added to the 5 world championship that he has. And during that time, how many points and races were done per season?
Even if you don't feel like it, Alonso is a deserved world champ. Heck, he even held the record of the youngest F1 winner, and double f1 champion, and still can be the youngest to boot. And his 2 championship comes without conterversy or foul play. the same cannot be said to a certain champ that won the '94 and nonchalantly budges Jaques to win the '97 world title. Heck, I wonder when the last time I see Fernando went into another teams garage and threathened to kill another driver....
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Times evolve mate, if u wanna live in da past, tht's ur beef. i'm not gonna dispute da fact tht Senna, Fangio, Hunt, Stewart, Hill were good drivers, mayb great even but they raced in a different era. I'll bet u this though, none of em showed the tenacity of Schuey, i nvr saw em come off the bck off the grid to finish on the podium. Alonso was spoonfed, he had everythin at his disposal, the team favored him, Briatore liked him better, the car was mighty fine too and the michelin's worked wonders too. N ur contradicting urself aye, ur comparin Schuey to da old time greats, y not Alonso?, do i sense a double standard here?
N yeah Schuey did spice up the F1 world, there are ppl who question his racing style at times, only goes to show the man's human and his win at all costs motto might not sit well wif some, too bad. N i'm guessin u'll nvr see Fernando threaten another driver, he's too chickenshit for it.


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QUOTE(Raikkonen @ Mar 2 2007, 05:13 PM)
Massa looks promising.
He might outshine Kimi  hmm.gif
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Tht's a given mate, Kimi's not gonna b able to hold a light nx to Massa n World Champion 2007 is gonna b a Brazilian, not a Finn - Felipe Massa

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post Mar 3 2007, 01:49 PM

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When I compared Schummi to the great oldies, it's because that I was refuting you saying he was the greatest driver that broke every record. what you said when you never see them start on the back of the grid and finish high enough? did you really watched them race? How dare you say they don't have the tenacy of a racing driver. If you want tenacy, look at Niki Lauda. He was burnt nearly to death, that a priest was called to say his last rites. But he went on to race again.
What I didn't say was Alonso was the greatest. Heck, I also rate Schumacher higher than Alonso, but what I said was, Alonso don't need to prove to anyone that he is a godd world champ. Chickenshit? whoever can pass schumacher on the outside of 130R full throttle ain't no chicken shit to me. Spoonfed? Was he spoonfed when he was at Minardi? Was it his fault that Giancarlo flopped so sadly last season? And what the difference that make with Schumacher? If you said that Renault spoonfed Fernando, we can say the same with Schummi and Ferrari. He gets the best parts, the best car, and even the best finishing if he wants (remember Austria?). Briatore did the same thing to him at Benneton when he won in 94 and 95, so when Briatore does the same thing to Fernando, you're pissed of? From what I see, you're the one that seeing double standards of thing.
Yes, schumacher might be human, and he did all he did to win, but Senna too did what he needed to do, but the difference was, if he felt he was wrong, in the end he will SAY he's sorry (remember Japan, Senna Mclaren and Prost Ferrari?).

oh yeah, before I forgot. Try looking for the 1983 US GP at long beach. The winner and 2nd place man started from 22 and 23 on the grid. And yet you say they cannot start from the back on the grid to finish in the podium. PAH!

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QUOTE(linkinstreet @ Mar 3 2007, 01:49 PM)
When I compared Schummi to the great oldies, it's because that I was refuting you saying he was the greatest driver that broke every record. what you said when you never see them start on the back of the grid and finish high enough? did you really watched them race? How dare you say they don't have the tenacy of a racing driver. If you want tenacy, look at Niki Lauda. He was burnt nearly to death, that a priest was called to say his last rites. But he went on to race again.
What I didn't say was Alonso was the greatest. Heck, I also rate Schumacher higher than Alonso, but what I said was, Alonso don't need to prove to anyone that he is a godd world champ. Chickenshit? whoever can pass schumacher on the outside of 130R full throttle ain't no chicken shit to me. Spoonfed? Was he spoonfed when he was at Minardi? Was it his fault that Giancarlo flopped so sadly last season? And what the difference that make with Schumacher? If you said that Renault spoonfed Fernando, we can say the same with Schummi and Ferrari. He gets the best parts, the best car, and even the best finishing if he wants (remember Austria?). Briatore did the same thing to him at Benneton when he won in 94 and 95, so when Briatore does the same thing to Fernando, you're pissed of? From what I see, you're the one that seeing double standards of thing.
Yes, schumacher might be human, and he did all he did to win, but Senna too did what he needed to do, but the difference was, if he felt he was wrong, in the end he will SAY he's sorry (remember Japan, Senna Mclaren and Prost Ferrari?).

oh yeah, before I forgot. Try looking for the 1983 US GP at long beach. The winner and 2nd place man started from 22 and 23 on the grid. And yet you say they cannot start from the back on the grid to finish in the podium. PAH!
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Whoaaaaaaaa!!!!!! an overdose of testerone aye, let's save it for the race mate, Niki Lauda, yeah he did good, for a man who almost died to come bck the nx yr and win da WC, says a lot about a man's spirit.
130R full throttle? if Christijan Albers was in a Renault shod on Michelin's with so much better race pace, he'd do it, so it's nothin special i say, ballsy though
U do make valid points though mate, if i'd have 2 say 1 thing, i'd say u knw ur F1, n i'm not a conceited prick enough to not admit tht i've met my match n then some.
wen it comes to Schuey, i can't be objective, it feels like a personal attack so i stand up at all costs, guy's da closest thing i've come to an idol.
So lets call a truce aye n leave da squabbling for da tracks, this is a public forum after all.
Peace out mate, 2 weeks n counting
INVASION OF THE RED TIDE/ TIFOSI !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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I have to agree with linkin here. What Schumi has done for F1 is commendable but to say he's the best ever and that only he showed the level of tenacity he did...one couldn't be more wrong. The cars now are much safer and way easier to drive. You gotta have real balls to be willing to drive an F1 car in the past...and it was all manual gear shifting and no traction control like u have these days.
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QUOTE(fred16 @ Mar 4 2007, 11:50 AM)
if Christijan Albers was in a Renault shod on Michelin's with so much better race pace, he'd do it, so it's nothin special i say, ballsy though
blink.gif if Christijan Albers in a ferrari and bridgestone,he will got 7 wdc, so it's nothin special too...

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Hmm... I'm the only one rooting for Spyker MF1? Their car looks fantastic and promising. Hope they have podium finishes.
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QUOTE(verx @ Mar 4 2007, 03:27 PM)
I have to agree with linkin here. What Schumi has done for F1 is commendable but to say he's the best ever and that only he showed the level of tenacity he did...one couldn't be more wrong. The cars now are much safer and way easier to drive. You gotta have real balls to be willing to drive an F1 car in the past...and it was all manual gear shifting and no traction control like u have these days.
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QUOTE(evoHahn @ Mar 5 2007, 12:43 PM)
agree with you. in the past they dont like to use seat belts... they rather being thrown out the car than being trapped in a car and burnt to death.... tongue.gif

OT but F1 related, my shipment of the greatest F1 movie ever 'Grand Prix' has arrived from Amazon  rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif
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QUOTE(TOYO @ Mar 4 2007, 11:08 PM)
blink.gif  if Christijan Albers in a ferrari and bridgestone,he will got 7 wdc, so it's nothin special too...
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Tell u wat; i'll give u da benefit of da doubt mate, he's still young, findin his footin in F1 n he's got a good pair of wheels under him this season it seems, let's c if he impresses enough and gets a big drive next season n we'll c if he wins 7 WC's by the time he's in his late 30's, if he doesn't u can eat my shoe, wanna put ur money where u mouth is? smile.gif
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He needs the right car to do that. and with the top three team drive being secured by yound drivers (bar Fisico), i doubt that. If he drives with Honda or BMW.Sauber, he might nick a rare win, but he drove neither. so the next best thing he can do is get to the podium.
But don't get me wrong. I do believe that car can maketh the driver. The Williams of the old was so strong that many team said you can put an averange racer in the Williams car and he can win the world championship. And I also feel that any Ferrari driver from 2000 - 2004 can win the WDC if Schumacher was not in the team.
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QUOTE(linkinstreet @ Mar 5 2007, 11:15 PM)
He needs the right car to do that. and with the top three team drive being secured by yound drivers (bar Fisico), i doubt that. If he drives with Honda or BMW.Sauber, he might nick a rare win, but he drove neither. so the next best thing he can do is get to the podium.
But don't get me wrong. I do believe that car can maketh the driver. The Williams of the old was so strong that many team said you can put an averange racer in the Williams car and he can win the world championship. And I also feel that any Ferrari driver from 2000 - 2004 can win the WDC if Schumacher was not in the team.
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IINM, doesn't the car setup sometimes depend on what the driver wants it? IIRC, that's what i heard from commentators on why Schumacher was doing so well but Barrichello struggled.

btw, i'm not a ferrari fan. just something i heard...
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Heh, it's not just car setup. While Schumacher does drive better than Rubens, he also has the luxury of having the better parts on his car. Sometimes in F1, team is just in the name only

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It is a sign of Lewis Hamilton's burgeoning maturity that he neither wants nor expects any favours from Fernando Alonso this season.

If Hamilton is to grace his maiden Formula One year with a win, he wants to be safe in the knowledge he beat McLaren team-mate and reigning double World Champion Alonso fair and square.

Just three months ago, when Hamilton's rapid rise to Formula One stardom was confirmed, you would have received long odds from any bookmaker betting on such a prospect.

But over the winter months, and his 165mph smash in testing at Valencia in January aside, Hamilton appears poised to be a worthy adversary to Alonso.

The 22-year-old British rookie has been consistently quick, and on occasion has even outpaced the more experienced Spaniard.

Admittedly, it is hard to read too much into testing times, but on the surface the signs are positive for Hamilton, who has long been groomed for success by McLaren boss Ron Dennis.

Although he was GP2 Series champion last year, when those first five red lights disappear at Melbourne's Albert Park to signal the opening grand prix of the season, that is when Hamilton's mettle will be truly tested.

"It's important to understand how tough a challenge it's going to be," conceded Hamilton.

"But I feel I'm absolutely ready. I had a fantastic season winning the GP2 Series against some very experienced drivers, but I have nothing left to prove.

"I know that F1 is going to be much tougher, but teaming up with Fernando is the best solution for me because I can learn so much from him.

"The important thing is I feel I've done everything I can for the first race so I'm not sitting there and saying, 'We didn't do this, we didn't do that.'

"I'm sure there will be mistakes, but you have to make mistakes to learn and become a better driver.

"I know I'm going to be making certain mistakes. That's just the way it is in the sport."

Hamilton's conviction, though, is unequivocal because when he says: "I know how to become the best. I just need time," you believe him.

As to how quickly he becomes the best remains to be seen, but his focus is sharp and he is far removed from the world that revolves around a normal 22-year-old.

"This is something I've wanted to do since...I can only imagine I was six when I saw Ayrton Senna racing for McLaren, and I sort of said I'd love to do that," recalled Hamilton.

"Ever since I got in a kart I've always wanted to drive. You have to make sacrifices, which I was always willing to make, as long as I could drive. I'll do it all again if I have to."

Appreciably, it helps when you have the support of someone such as Dennis, as Hamilton has for the last decade after being signed up on a development contract at the age of 12.

An estimated 」5million has since been spent on Hamilton, a project Dennis has described as his 'My Fair Lady experiment'.

Hamilton is understandably grateful, adding: "I first met Ron when I was 10 years old at an Autosport Awards ceremony.

"Listening to how he remembers the first time we met is special, and the faith, confidence and loyalty he's had in me over the years since has been key.

"I think it's a nice story - or the end of one story and the beginning of a new chapter."

Hamilton concedes his aim for this year "is simply to do a solid job for McLaren," but at the back of his mind you know he would love to savour a race victory.

That would mean beating Alonso first and foremost, never mind the rest of the field, but Hamilton is confident without being cocky and brave without being brash.

"At the end of the day I'm such a strong competitor. Whatever I do, I want to be up against the best and to beat the best," insisted Hamilton.

"As I'm sitting next to the best, I'm able to compare myself to him, to learn from everything he does, to eventually trying to beat him.

"But I'm very realistic. At the end of the day he is a two-time world champion and he is expected to be at the front.

"Clearly if we're in a competitive car, and he has some problems, then for sure there'll be an opportunity to win.

"But I'd prefer to be ahead of him, rather than him have a problem and me overtake. I'd rather be quicker than him, at the front and win."
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QUOTE(fred16 @ Mar 5 2007, 11:01 PM)
Tell u wat; i'll give u da benefit of da doubt mate, he's still young, findin his footin in F1 n he's got a good pair of wheels under him this season it seems, let's c if he impresses enough and gets a big drive next season n we'll c if he wins 7 WC's by the time he's in his late 30's, if he doesn't u can eat my shoe, wanna put ur money where u mouth is? smile.gif
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u just dont understand what i'm saying... u said that alber also can do what alonso do, so same also with schumacher...alber also can do what schumacher do if he had d same car as schumacher
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hey, i just realize that Singapore is having a GP next year and it'll be a night race. How come they can have night race and when Malaysia requested for it, we were denied?
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QUOTE(eXyzt @ Mar 6 2007, 11:30 AM)
hey, i just realize that Singapore is having a GP next year and it'll be a night race. How come they can have night race and when Malaysia requested for it, we were denied?
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