I can vouch for what 6UE5T mentioned, as i just changed a set of v12evo2 on 225/45/18 size. Good value for money, and the best part is there is no penalty on rolling refinement (and could be even better than your current tyres).

FK510 should be available now if you put in a little effort to look around, as the official website have that product up very recently :
http://www.stamfordtyres.com.my/tyrespasse...p?b=1&c=1&t=147

Price wise, it is a slight premium to v12evo2 (but still cheaper than ps4). But the premium is worth it as the performance and refinement metrics is a notch better than v12evo2.

If no hurry, wait a while for fk510 to saturate the market and the supply stabalises. The pricing could be more favourable (or you wait till official launch of fk510 in hopes that there will be bundled initial launch goodies/promotions).

This post has been edited by wkc5657: Jul 6 2018, 12:17 PM

thx for the fast reply and wow, V12 Evo2 RM 325 is like half of PS4 RM 580. quite tempted.
but, i heard from 2 of my friends they are using hankook and their review not that good. 1 of them is driving Saga using the Kinergy and he said the braking is quite bad compare to Goodyear NCT5. Another 1, I am not really sure about the tyre model, but he said Falken better than Hankook...

well, i can wait for few more months, since it's 50% tread wear now. but what are the recommended shop for Falken in klang valley?

This post has been edited by Emiya Shirou: Jul 6 2018, 12:27 PM

You cannot just generalize like that. Every tire brands makes low end, mid range, and top end models, so of course in every brand there are those lousy ones too, including Michelin and Goodyear! So same case with Hankook, it surely also makes low end models which are not good in performance so not really recommended. But this V12E2 and the other model which is more difficult to find, the S1E2, are excellent UHP tires, comparative with other top tires like PS4, F1A3, CSC5, PZero, etc2, so very highly recommended especially due to the relatively much cheaper price.

50% still can use for some time actually. Usually use mine until only left 20-25%, or already hitting the minimum tread wear indicator. Maybe you can post some photos of them.

i see the price of PS4 seem like quite tempting now around RM580/pc and heard people said it's more quiet and comfortable?? cause I don't really like my current Toyo T1 Sport, a bit noisy and stiff ride

Hi, may I know what is the price of Primacy 4 for 215/45/R17 from Beng San?

You try calling Ah Seong 012-699 1962

When earlier you mentioned 225/45/18, i already suspect what car you're currently having. Then when now you mentioned T1 sport, then i confirm you drive the skyactiv mazda3.

You and me, abang adik kakak lar....me drive same car also

Seriously, don't swipe aside the hankook just because the brand is not as prestigious as michelin/continental/goodyear/bridgestone/(whatever well known brands). Why i say so is because it is a really value for money, yet good performance tyres. And since you mentioned stiff ride, it is even more suitable for you as the hankook has softer sidewalls.

Best of all, the noise is so much muted. For myself, on my favourite radio channel, i turned down the volume by 2 points, and it is still clearer and louder than when i had the t1s on. And throughout the driving speed till 150km/h, the engine revving noise and wind buffer noise is louder than the tyre noise!!! And you know that on the t1s anything above 60 is starting to hit your nerves.

It is hard to describe it, but the hankook's tyre noise signature is like mmmmmmmmmmmuuuuuuuuuuUUUUUUUUUU

As comparison, the t1s is like wwwwwwwuuuuuuuuuuaaaaaaAAAAAAARRRRRRGGGGGHHHHHHH (the tyre pitch is much higher and louder, making conversation very difficult at higher speeds, and even more suffering for the rear passengers)

I even dare say that mazda malaysia chose the wrong tyre for the mazda3. If fitted with something like the v12evo2, hands down there would be at least 10% more mazda3 on the road. People (and even i myself) doubt that the mazda3 has really bad insulation, but actually not that bad, the main culprit is the toyo tyres, t1 shit!!!! After fitting the v12evo2, the driving character sounded so much better and you can now actually have a proper conversation at highway speeds.

The ps4 is will definitely be louder than the v12evo2, but not as harsh as the t1s. If you really want silent, maybe can consider the newly launched michelin primacy 4 if falken FK510 is not your cup of tea. Primacy 4 is premium touring tyres, definitely silent ride :
https://www.michelin.com.my/MY/en/tires/pro.../primacy-4.html

225/45/18 not officially available at the moment, but i checked michelin uk's website have this size. So maybe you can ask around for confirmation. MSRP quite close to what ps4 is selling now.

People might say PS4 more quiet is compared to PS3 (which is never known for being a quiet tire to begin with), but should not be by much. More comfortable than PS3, I'm not sure about that coz PS4 has stiffer sidewall compared to PS3 to improve the performance level to be more sporty. PS3 is known to have a bit softer sidewall.

The V12E2 trades off a bit of performance compared to PS4 for softer sidewall and lesser noise level, with much cheaper price. That's why we recommend this tire for you. Compared to T1S, the V12E2 is superior in ALL aspects. Toyo tires in general especially their Japanese made are overrated/not worth the price!

huh? what do you mean by never known for being a quiet tyre to begin with?
ps3 is damn good and silent for a performance tyre..
even on my mk5 gti ive been using this tyre for ages and gotta say its damn good handling along with a decent ride comfort level..
used to be on conti sport contact5.. but ever since ps3 which was so long ago.. ive been sticking to it cause its MUCH quieter...

ya, mazda 3 and i thought it was quite a success already considering its appearance on road

thx for both of you guys for your feedback and i think i already know which tyre i will get

This post has been edited by Emiya Shirou: Jul 6 2018, 06:33 PM

Well some people can tolerate more noise than others. PS3 focus is never silence to begin with, that's what I mean. it might be ok for performance level tires but the noise level is just average meaning would not match those mid range comfort level tires like Primacy 3ST for example. To be honest I actually also agree with you, PS3 is still silent enough but noise is also never my top priority in tires. But for some other people who are less tolerant than us, PS3 can be a bit noisy to them. I got several friends who are like that, hence my comment above.

As for CSC5, yes it's more noisy than PS3 but to me even that is still ok! CSC5 performance/grip is better though than PS3, especially in the dry.

Ok, I just think you should be fair and not oversell something. Credit where it’s due, hankook does produce decent tires with value in mind.. like the k117a I’m also using is really impressive that seemingly never runs out of grip and its super silent. And yes the v12 is good as well.. but I still think ps3 would be a quieter and grippier choice just that it’ll come at a heftier price tag.

Hmm no I'm not trying to oversell anything. PS3 is indeed a pretty good tire. I know coz I'm using it as well along with the V12E2. I don't agree the PS3 can match the low noise level of the V12E2 and I also don't really think the PS3 is grippier than the V12E2. The only advantage the PS3 has over the V12E2 I feel is the aquaplaning resistance but overall dry grip the V12E2 I think is at the very least equally good if not better. Note that this V12E2 had even been tested against PS4S (not even PS4!) plus Continental Extreme Contact, the latest PZero PZ4, and F1A3 last year by Car & Driver Magazine and it can give those top tires a run for their money! So considering how well it stacked up there, I'm not surprised that it would be better then the aging PS3.

Anyone tried the atr sport 2 by achilles? Review it for my office colleagues on 17" tires.

I respect your opinion,

Just changed to Primacy 4 today. 215 45 17.

Definitely many class above in term of noise to my existing Conti MC5. The tyre is quite soft and the dry grip is comparable to MC5, maybe a tad slower in response but you did get a floaty feel when corner hard, maybe I will need to let it break in first.

Ride comfort is definitely improved when going over uneven roads. Car maintains its stability very well.

There's continental mc6 for mazda 3 size ... RM400++

Road noise through the yellow lines are much more softer to hear than stock T1 Sport...

i've change all 4 to mc6 and definitely way better than stock toyozzzzzz

how much is primacy 4?

Hmm that doesn't sound good! I expect a lot more out of the new Primacy 4, especially against the old and mediocre MC5. Maybe as you said, need to break in first, and see again later after at least 500km travel.

+1 , everyone here can share their thought and opinion 🗣

Respect each other is mostly welcome 🙏